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Why Do Good Works

Do Christians do good works in order to obtain salvation or do Christians do good works because they already have eternal salvation?

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1 John 3:12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

Here says it ALL....Cain's WORKS were EVIL, Abel's WORKS were RIGHTEOUS.

Now exactly what were Abel's WORKS? OBEDIENCE of FAITH in offering a blood sacrifice admitting he was a sinner, and his blood sacrifice pointing to the promised redeemer.

Hebrews 11 explains. Nothing in Hebrews 11 about Abel's or Noah's or Moses or Abrahams Etc etc etc WORKS ETC ETC except they ALL OBEYED the voice of God. They didn't do good works to EARN salvation. Their faith PROVED they were saved because their works of obedience of faith proved they were already saved.
---kath4453 on 7/20/18


Steveng:

You asked: What the difference between the 'Kingdom of God' and a 'new heaven and a new Earth'?

"Kingdom" means "dominion" or "rulership". It refers to government - who is in charge, who makes the rules, etc. "A new heaven and a new earth" are geographic terms, referring to physical places.

Compare "North America" (a place) and "United States of America" (a government) or "British Isles" (a place) and "United Kingdom" (a kingdom).
---StrongAxe on 7/20/18


Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God, and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were JUDGED out of those things which were written in the books, according to their WORKS.

Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were JUDGED every man according to their WORKS.


Sounds like a good reason to me.

Our works (fruits) show the reality of our profession of faith.

Jas 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.


---jerry6593 on 7/20/18


Blessed are those who have part of the first resurrection, against such the second death hath no power. This verse in the beginning of Revelation also is what Hebrews 2:9....( read ALL of Hebrews 2) is about. FAITH in the promised Redeemer before the cross or after, ( SAME PROMISE) explained in Hebrews 2....verse 9 WOW....shows why WE need to be Born Again...those Born Again, INCLUDING all before the cross, who died IN FAITH Hebrews 11 who are NOW made perfect ..Hebrews 12( the spirits of Just men MADE PERFECT, also will not face the second death.

Those who TODAY have died with Christ...Romans 6 aka Crucified with Christ...aka BORN AGAIN, Born from above, will also,not face the second death. The SECOND DEATH is the lake of fire.
---kathr4453 on 7/20/18


What the difference between the 'Kingdom of God' and a 'new heaven and a new Earth'?

How does one interpret the difference between the first resurrection and the second which states "according to their works?"
---Steveng on 7/19/18




Will your loving God destroy the souls of these people?
---Steveng on 7/18/18


Steven
Jesus was very clear...unless a man be born again he can not enter into the kingdom of God. There is a very clear sign given in the Bible, which tells us how we know when we have been born of God. (1 John 3:9-10) KJV.

The wrong path is very long, and its where many spend their entire lifetimes trying to find the Truth. Only those who follow the Holy Spirit will find the right path. And confession of sin keeps us on that path, until we find it.

I have witnessed good folks, who follow the wrong path their entire life, who were born again on their deathbeds. God chooses who he chooses, he decides when to make that choice.
---David on 7/19/18


Again Steveng, you sited the Gospel according to Steveng. You try to reason out of your own lack of understanding what you FEEL AND THINK God will do...when He has already stated many times exactly what He will do.
---kathr4453 on 7/19/18


God is a loving God and a just God. He does not want anyone to perish. There are two resurrections of the dead: One, at the return of Christ where the dead in Christ shall rise and the living shall be caught up with the dead. The second is at the end of the thousand year reign of Christ where all the other dead from all of history shall rise and be judge from the book of life according to their works.

There are people, not knowing God nor Jesus, who do the will of God not knowing the will of God nor his commandments, but do them anyway from the heart.

Will your loving God destroy the souls of these people?
---Steveng on 7/18/18


David, where are you coming up with your false accusations? My my just another KellyAnne Conway dishonest deflection here.

I won't discuss with you any longer David.
---kathr4453 on 7/18/18


Again, you are changing the narrative now by suggesting I don't believe a Christian can sin. Please find where I made such a ststement. ---kathr4453 on 7/17/18

Kathryn
Its in the very foundation of your doctrine.
Sin is the transgression of the Law. (1 John 3:4). If you are not under Gods Law, how can you transgress the Law? If you can not sin, I can see how confession of sin would sound ridiculous to you.

Paul was a great teacher, but if your going to found your doctrine on his epistles, use all of it. Like the entire chapter of (Romans 2), which totally refutes your lawless belief,...if your honest about it.
---David on 7/18/18




kathr: "And your definition of LOVING GOD is to keep His commandments."

Perhaps you missed this:

Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Is your definition of loving God disobeying Him?



---jerry6593 on 7/18/18


So Steveng, tell us.....can an unsaved person not filled with the Holy Spirit LOVE God? And your definition of LOVING GOD is to keep His commandments...Are these commandments the 10 commandments Or other commandment? So we see Pauls testimony....a blameless Pharisee who thought he perfectly kept Gods commandments. So much so, he even murdered Christians. Yet in Philippians 3 he seems to say all that was dung compared to the excellency and knowledge of KNOWING CHRIST, not having a righteousness of his own but having the righteousness of Christ.

Did you read the blog question before answering? OR perhaps did you stumble on here by mistake.

LOVE never compromises TRUTH.
---kathr4453 on 7/17/18


The ultimate commandment is LOVE - as in the VERB form.

A Christian loves God by keeping his commandments, by doing his commandments.

A Christian loves others by applying love to others - showing and applying the love of God.

It seems many on this site bicker among each other. Many debate unwinnable arguments. They make living a Christian lifestyle more complicated than it really should be. What is happening on the site is a reflection of today's society - and it isn't good.
---Steveng on 7/17/18


David, your comment makes no sense.---kathr4453

Kathryn
If you dont believe a Christian can sin, I wouldnt expect confession of sin to make any sense to you.
---David on 7/17/18

Again, you are changing the narrative now by suggesting I don't believe a Christian can sin. Please find where I made such a ststement.

Again, you are being dishonest by making up lies to try to explain comments you made that make no sense.

There is no such thing as forgivness of sin NOT being covered or wash away by the blood of Jesus Christ.

You make up doctrine not in scripture. Back up your doctrine with "scripture"....not INSULTS to others who confront your nonsense.
---kathr4453 on 7/17/18


David, your comment makes no sense.---kathr4453

Kathryn
If you dont believe a Christian can sin, I wouldnt expect confession of sin to make any sense to you.
---David on 7/17/18


Christians work because they are saved. Those who are born again love others. That love works.

No loving others shows a person is not saved. Or is still a baby needing to learn. We cannot know which.
---Samuelbb7 on 7/16/18


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David, your comment makes no sense.
---kathr4453 on 7/15/18


David..it is what it is. I am the one who said we confess ONLY TO GOD. You're the one who suggested confession to humans was enough...AND NEVER STATED ANYTHING ABOUT THE BLOOD. ---kathr4453

Kathryn
Mine was a question for exploration.
I believe when a person confesses their sin, before God, they recieve forgiveness and the washing away of sin in the blood of Christ. But when you forgive someone of their sins against you, you only receive forgiveness of sin.

I know what the blood is for David. Just apologize that your comment was in fact condescending and accusatory. Kathryn

If an apology was needed, I would apologize. But my intent was not meant to harm you, no apology is needed.
---David on 7/15/18


Partially, but you didnt mention the blood of Christ, and why forgiven sin needs to be washed away. I hope someday you will confess your sin before God, so God can show you what the blood is for.
---David on 7/12/18

David..it is what it is. I am the one who said we confess ONLY TO GOD. You're the one who suggested confession to humans was enough...AND NEVER STATED ANYTHING ABOUT THE BLOOD.

I know what the blood is for David. Just apologize that your comment was in fact condescending and accusatory.

STOP wiggling out of things you have said by changing the subject when confronted. So dishonest.
---kathr4453 on 7/14/18


Have I EVER stated that I don't believe in the blood of Christ?---kathr4453 on 7/12/18

Kathryn
Understandably, you took what I said out of context. It was not a slight, I wanted you to give confession another chance. When you do this, there is a noticeable change to the way you see yourself and the world around you.


John 14:23 you quoted says nothing about "the love of God"---StrongAxe on 7/12/18

StrongAxe
True, but doesnt (John 14:21)?
21 He that has my commandments, and keeps them, he it is that loves me: and he that loves me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
---David on 7/14/18


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David:

John 14:23 you quoted says nothing nothing about "the love of God", which we take to mean us loving God, and is one half of Jesus's quoting the two most important commandments, and which is the motivation to do good works. Rather, it talks about the reverse - God loving us.

Distilling this verse into the simple phrase "the love of God", which in English can be ambiguous and mean it both ways, and then using that ambiguity to argue that it means the other way, is twisting scripture. This is how false doctrines work - they twist scripture to say the opposite of what it actually says.
---StrongAxe on 7/12/18


David, hopefully people know the reason Jesus was made flesh in the first place was that His Blood is once and for all opposed to animal sacrifices that only temporarily covered sin UNTIL the next animal sacrifice.

Please don't make assumptions here. Did I not bring to your attention here or another much like this blog Hebrews 10? Have I EVER stated that I don't believe in the blood of Christ? Have I stated many times we are justified by His blood and saved by His risen life?

Yes I have....for over 15 years here.

What I find disengenuous here David is your constant looking for something you want to make an issue about, because EVERYTHING is not stated for you in 125 words.
---kathr4453 on 7/12/18


For God so LOVED the World that He gave His only Begotren son to die on the cross for the forgivness of sin.
---kathr4453 on 7/11/18


Kathryn
Partially, but you didnt mention the blood of Christ, and why forgiven sin needs to be washed away. I hope someday you will confess your sin before God, so God can show you what the blood is for.
---David on 7/12/18


David, what makes you think Christians don't love God? Yet we see it's the Love of God shed abroad in our heart by the Holy Spirit. We love Him because He first loved us.

For God so LOVED the World that He gave His only Begotren son to die on the cross for the forgivness of sin.
---kathr4453 on 7/11/18


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The Truth
(John 14:23) Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our home with him.

Fact vs. Fiction, As we can see in the above verse.
According to Christ...Works come first...then comes the love of God. Notice Jesus says, Keep my words and my Father will love you. Not, My Father will love you...and then you will keep my words.

If we use what Jesus taught in his Gospel to guide us, the false doctrines can not lead us astray. The Gospel is like the meat of a meal, the rest of the New Testament is the garnish. Unfortunately most have made the Gospel of Christ the garnish.
---David on 7/11/18


It's God who works IN US ( those who are Saved and have Christ IN THEM,) to will and to do,of His good pleasure. And we are created IN CHRIST JESUS ( those now Born Again) to walk in the works HE has before ordained that we should walk in. These works are what is conforming us to the image of Jesus Christ, growing up into Him to maturity, being OVERCOMERS in this evil world, as we are no longer part of this world. Colossians 3:1-4. Ephesians 2, just to mane a few verses.
---kathr4453 on 7/10/18


Christians do good works because they already have eternal salvation
Dont forget who Christ made you, and how that was possible. It is the cross of Christ that did all the work necessary for your salvation, and the power of the resurrection of Christ that guarantees you a heavenly place with Christ.
The response to sin for the believer is to stop living like who you were, and start living according to who you are in Christ by faith.
Now it is our duty to live up to the high calling we have received freely through Him.
---michael_e on 7/10/18


This is a difficult question to answer, because the answer is Yes!

By cooperating with the commands of the Father, as written out in Matt 25:31-45 and elsewhere in the Bible, we are saved.

And once we have accepted His love and grace in our hearts, we still follow the same commands, not to gain salvation, but to show people love.
---Monk_Brendan on 7/10/18


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Trey, good works are the result of the Father grace, as His Divine influence upon the heart or focus of man, it is His Divine favor that opens within man a place spiritually, and a condition mentally to believe and receive His salvation through the atoning sacrifice of Jesus, and all who adhere to, rely on, an trust in Him, He works through, both to will and to do that which is pleasing in His sight.
---Josef on 7/10/18


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