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Let's pray for this nation - and for THE LORD'S INTERVENTION into repentance and the opening up of the eyes of the multitudes that are spiritually and morally blind and not seeing that we already are experiencing GOD'S JUDGMENT and how many can discern that?

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Haz27:

Please tell me just which "Left's arguments" I used to justify abortion. I have repeatedly stated that I am not in favor of abortion. The ONLY thing I have said is that the Bible does not specifically condemn abortion, and there are two cases that explicitly suggest that it does not:

Exodus 21:22: if two men fight and one's wife intervenes and miscarries, the penalty is a civil penalty and not death (i.e. if abortion were murder, this would have the death penalty)

Number 5:13-31 (esp. 27): A woman suspected of adultery drinks bitter water, if she's guilty, she will miscarry (i.e. abortion in case of adultery).
---StrongAxe on 8/8/18


AXE. I remind you that it was Jesus himself who described (Matt 13:13-15) how his parables would only seem as parables to those (like you) with their spiritual ears, eyes closed.
Only those with spiritual ears ,eyes open will receive understanding of parables from Christ.

You have consistently avoided all my efforts to get you to explain away how your false doctrine on Matt 25 contradicts the gospel.

BTW, A correction of your lie. I called the Left that you support "Communists", "Baby killers".
I also said several times in the past that whilst you claim to oppose killing unborn babies (abortion), your posts here consistently use the baby killing Left's arguments when justifying abortion.
---Haz27 on 8/8/18


Haz27:

Only Israel had access to the writings of Moses. People everywhere else in the world did not. Even after Jesus came, most of the world did not have access to the Gospel until very recently, and there are still some places that do not. Before Moses, nobody anywhere even had that access. How could they possibly believe in what they had never even heard? None of the scriptures you quoted addresses that. I'm also still waiting to hear Melody's interpretation.
---StrongAxe on 8/8/18


Melody:

Haz27 himself said in previous messages (on other blogs) that Jesus spoke in parables, so one should not take these saying literally, and by doing so, explained away what Jesus actually said. How can I "offend" him by calling him on what he actually did? Read other blogs on this site, if you actually care about offense, and see how he has constantly reviled me by personally calling me a communist, baby killer, and other things.

For the third time. If my interpretation of his words are wrong, tell me what YOU think the RIGHT interpretation is.

Hillary got 3 million more votes than Trump, so the majority did NOT elect him. HE constantly insults veterans, disabled, foreigners, and press.
---StrongAxe on 8/8/18


AXE. Those believers who died before Jesus did know him.

John 5:46-47
For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me.

John 12:44,45
Then Jesus cried out and said, "He who believes in Me, BELIEVES NOT IN ME BUT IN HIM WHO SENT ME.

John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Isa 9:6
For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given, And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, MIGHTY GOD, EVERLASTING FATHER, Prince of Peace.

It's time you admit that your error doctrine on Matt 25, Matt 7, etc contradicts God's gospel.
---Haz27 on 8/8/18




AXE. You distort scripture.

Scripture gives context to understand the labels it uses. But you discard this, looking instead to the physical for context.

In scripture we see the lost (those without the garment of salvation, Isa 61:10) are spiritually naked in Matt25. We must not be naked (2Cor 5:3).

We see the lost, who are strangers from covenant of promise, and household of God (Eph 2:12,19), are the strangers Matt 25 refers to.

We see the lost are the hungry/thirsty as they lack JC our spiritual food/drink (1Cor 10:3,4).

Your twisted interpretations implies that belief in JC is not necessary as really all it takes is some good physical deeds to the physically needy and you get to enter God's kingdom.
---Haz27 on 8/7/18


Ok rammer jammer ....and many prayed for our nation when GW Bush was in office, riding into Iraq like a bunch of drunk Cowboys, having no EXIT PLAN WHATSOEVER, and no weapons of mass distraction found.....when Afghanistan was just a bate and switch play for Iraq all along. Multi-millions of US currency FLOWN over to Iraq rather than wire transfers, ended up DISAPPEARING, and to this day has never been accounted for.....where in the end Bush's approval rating was HORRIBLY LOW......countries then did not like us...... ..and God answered those prayers and brought us Obama.

NOW WHAT?
---kathr4453 on 8/7/18


To Strong Axe in reference to your so offensive message that you sent to Haz27: ///"Your 'Jesus, was speaking in parables, so he didn't actually meant what HE said///

Your words tells exactly where you are, not only you have offended Haz27 (in some respect your are right - THE LORD JESUS from The Bible in WHOM he believes is not 'the one' you talk about for yourself)- for you have been deceived into a falseness and by your words you have shown again where you are, by even putting yourself above THE LORD HIMSELF and replacing the meaning of HIS WORDS into your own distorted and away from GOD blasphemous interpretation - it's obvious that the enemy has blinded your spiritual eyes and under judgment you are!
---Melody on 8/7/18


To Rammer Jammer = ///"I desperately prayed for our nation during Obama's Presidency and then, Trump was elected - prayer works"///

Would you like to give more insight about your message? -for as never before, we haven't seen in this nation the open revolts, hatred, attacks in so many and undignified/ demeaning insults against someone that by the majority was elected into The Presidency - it's a shame and a disgrace, for he together with others with a Christian Conscience, are trying to bring back this country into the respect of the Laws and away from the judgment that will come if repentance doesn't show, especially by the removing of the wicked sodomite 'laws' that GOD cannot stand as they are abominable to HIM!
---Melody on 8/7/18


Haz27:

Jesus condemned the sophistry of the PHARISEES who changed scripture to not mean what it says.


Melody:

You keep SAYING I'm wrong, yet you have yet to SHOW me, from scripture, that I am wrong. Give me YOUR explanation of Matthew 25 Sheep and Goats that explains how the righteous could have asked Jesus "when did we help you", if they were believers?

Your and Haz27's interpretation means every human befor Jesus (and most after) are in hell because they didn't believe in Jesus (since they never knew him).

You also used "despised". People from other religions don't despise Jesus. They just don't know him. Even atheists don't despise God or Santa Claus, neither of which they believe in.
---StrongAxe on 8/7/18




I desperately prayed for our Nation during Obama's presidency. And then Trump was elected. Prayer works.
---RammerJammer on 8/7/18


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To: Strong Axe.

You have been receiving the right discernment in accordance to The Scriptures from other nice Christians here and you keep on refusing it, and if so: I do believe it's foolish for me to keep on writing to you as THE LORD in HIS WORD admonish us to leave when someone keeps rejecting THE TRUTH that comes directly from HIS WORD as you keep on doing yourselfIt's clear that if you ever studied GOD'S WORD you would be able to recognize by now your errors, and you'll be able to admit that an Atheist (of course - one that doesn't believe in GOD, THE CREATOR AND SAVIOR) couldn't enter GOD'S Kingdom and much more receive praise from THE LORD and THE ONE that he despised to believe for the forgiveness of his sins!
---Melody on 8/7/18


AXE. You say words of JC are "sophistry"?
See Col 1:26, 1Cor 2:14. Prov 25:2, Eph 3:5.

Jesus said, when asked why the parables (Matt 13:13-17):
Because it has been given to you to know the MYSTERIES of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given....Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do NOT SEE, and hearing they do NOT HEAR,....
But blessed are your eyes for they see, and your ears for they hear, for assuredly, I say to you that many prophets and righteous men desired to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it
.

AXE. Your false doctrine contradicts gospel.
Your "sophistry" angle contradicts Jesus words above.
---Haz27 on 8/7/18


Melody:

This site won't let you post more than one message at a time - one may get admitted, and the others will be silently deleted. You will probably have to re-post II-III.

"Who will dare to contradict GOD'S WORD?"

I make statements VERY SPECIFICALLY based on certain scriptures, and I quote them (or reference them when there's not enough room). I can't answer more until I actually see your explanations about why my interpretations are incorrect.


Haz27:

Your "Jesus was speaking in parables, so he didn't actually mean what he said" theory is verbal sophistry, like when Jesus condemned Pharisees' "korban" exception to "honor your parents".
---StrongAxe on 8/6/18


IV
(The previous message that I sent you and in that, GOD'S WORD to prove my point on those things that you clearly contradict and you still won't admit . . . it hasn't been shown yet and I hope that soon you'll see it)..

Who will dare to contradict GOD'S WORD? - but those who are not led by HIS SPIRIT . . . you have to come to that acceptance before THE LORD and then you'll be able to see the reality of things and receive GOD'S DISCERNMENT about HIS WORD AND THE TRUTH OF HIS GOSPEL!
---Melody on 8/6/18


AXE. Your dishonest claim that I've supposedly not given you my interpretation of the scriptures we're discussing, is exposed for all to see in my Blog Replies which records my recent posts.

Matthew 25, Mark 10, Matt 7 were all explained to you in my recent posts, as they also were months ago when we debated them then.

I suggest you at least apologize to Melody for lying to her.

More importantly though is the false doctrine you preach claiming that JC is not needed to enter God's kingdom because you claim the alternative path to salvation, for those who reject JC as the messiah, is doing good physical deeds for the physically needy.



---Haz27 on 8/6/18


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AXE. You clearly reject the gospel that only through JC can we be saved (John 14:6).

Your false doctrine that Atheists, Muslims, etc who reject JC, still enter God's kingdom simply because they helped some physically needy person, contradicts the gospel.

Jesus spoke in parables and only those with their spiritual ears and eyes open will understand them. Seems you might be like those Jesus spoke of in Matt 13:13-15.

The cup of water in Matt 10:42 is word of God, Prov 25:25. And the reward is JC, Isa 58:8.

Matt 7:16-23 you also fail to understand. Verse 21 gives the qualifier of DOING THE WILL OF GOD. Jesus tells of the will of God in John 6:40.

Thus we see your false doctrine contradicts God's word.
---Haz27 on 8/5/18


Melody:

Instead of just my interpretation of scriptures, it would be more useful to actually your interpration of those same scriptures. Tell me just what YOU think God's Word is saying there, instead of just saying "You're WRONG!".

You make incorrect assumptions about me, whom you know nothing about. I gave my life to the Lord 42 years ago. If you accuse me of blasphemy, prove HOW it's blasphemy.

Haz27 does the same thing. He says my interpretations of scripture are wrong, yet does not provide his "correct" interpretations of those scriptures.

(Also, unfortunately, this site doesn't let you post multiple messages one right after the other in the same blog. Extra ones are usually deleted).
---StrongAxe on 8/5/18


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To Strong Axe in response to your own 'liberal and distorted gospel' that contradicts GOD'S WORD:

Your contradiction of The Scriptures is a serious spiritual place where you are putting yourself in, and in respect to your last messages, read and absorb (for your own spiritual sake) what GOD'S WORD has to say and in order for you to accept it, believe it and get the right discernment, you must first and totally give your life to THE LORD, for without GOD'S SPIRIT within, these blasphemous interpretations and false doctrines come about and many are lost now and will be if they decide to defy and ignore GOD'S ADMONITIONS AND TRUTH into salvation and eternal life. . . please read next message!
---Melody on 8/5/18


Haz27:

In the Matthew 25 Sheep and Goats story, the worthy ask Jesus how they have helped him. ANY believing Christian would already know this story, and not need to ask - so those who DO ask the question are ones who don't know, and thus, are not believers.

In Matthew 10:42 and Mark 9:41, ANYONE who gives a cup of water to a disciple will not lose his reward - no mention if the giver is a believer.

In Matthew 7:16-23, Jesus says you know a tree by its fruits. Many say "Didn't we do great works in your name?" yet Jesus says "I never knew you!". These are CLEARLY believers.

You seem to think that your "spiritual understanding" will save you, yet nowhere does the Bible teach that.
---StrongAxe on 8/5/18


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I agree with HAZ 27 and RichardC here on this subject. I did read that response on the other post.

Firstly LOVE ..that is, our LOVE for God does not compromise. We can see this from Pauls writings to the Galatians, not only rebuking Peter in front of everyone, but the idea of compromising LAW and Grace itself was detestable.

God did NOT compromise HIS WORD when Saul disobeyed and sought out a WITCH to contact the dead. GOd ENDED SAUL PERIOD.

The lost CAN seek out the dead all they want, but those who belong to the Lord CANNOT. So why would you want to be UNEQUALLY YOKED with heretics?
---kathr4453 on 8/5/18


Also Romans 12:1-2 state clearly Only those who presented themselves a living sacrifice unto God....AKA BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS, can KNOW the will of God.

There is a LOVE that is IN CHRIST ALONE that is a supernatural LOVE. And then there is HUMAN LOVE. The humanitarian love aka humanism, "self effort" works.
So is Strongaxe saying anyone can WORK their way to Heaven? The answer is NO. Because even with all those marvelous wonderful human works , it still falls short of the Glory of God.

When you understand what GLORY is Strongaxe , then you will understand.

NOW! these good workers may be able to enter the 1000 year reign, a totally different thing here.
---kath4453 on 8/5/18


John 6:45 - It is written in the prophets,
And they shall be all taught by God, Every man therefore that hath heard. and hath learned of the Father, cometh to me

Isaiah 55:11 - So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth : It shall not return unto me void,But it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in thing whereto I sent it.
---RichardC on 8/5/18


AXE. Your false doctrine that antiChrist Atheists, Muslims, etc inherit Gods kingdom just because they met some minimum standard of helping the physically needy, proves your ignorance of the gospel.

Like I said, your spiritual ears and eyes are closed, hence you lack spiritual understanding, Matt 13:13-15.

Your post indicates that you clearly dont even know what the will of God is.

Nor do you understand who Jesus referred to as the FIRST versus the LAST.
---Haz27 on 8/4/18


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Melody:

It isn't that black and white. Just because someone believes one wrong thing doesn't mean they worship devils or are possessed. Before judging anyone, examine all they do, rather than focus on one thing. That's what Pharisees did when accusing Jesus of doing miracles by the power of the devil.

Most denominations teach a mixture of truth and error but are united important doctrines. We should embrace our commonality, not be divided by our differences. Throughout the past 2000 years, too many people believed "What we teaches is correct. Anyone who believes differently is a heretic going to hell". Such xenophobic beliefs are cultic (e.g. Jehovah's Witnssesses), and divide the Body of Christ, something Paul condemned.
---StrongAxe on 8/4/18


Melody, thank you too for your truth here as well in this matter. I think what many fail to see is the idea that Mary is somewhat "above" others
and has some sort of special influence in petitioning God through Jesus Christ, along with other doctrine of her perpetual virginity, the immaculate conception etc etc is what gives way to this CO-Redemptress doctrine in the first place.

Mary has no more power than my Grandfather who is saved, however asleep in the Lord. NO Mary does not float around appearing to anyone either.

Besides "I" can come boldly with confidence to the throne of Grace to find help in time of need. Hebrews 4.

Blessings!
---kathr4453 on 8/4/18


To kathr4453:

Amen for what you said, it's a religion based in the worshipping of demons/evil spirits and the people that worship them are possessed under it (that's the reason that those whom you even show them what GOD'S WORD says - they keep in denying the facts that everyone knows of this under wickedness religion, and they even dare to say things that only comes from a perverted imagination that of course - the source coming from the spiritual darkness where they are:

For those who are willing to listen to GOD'S HOLY SPIRIT and become saved and away from GOD'S JUDGMENT and separation from THE LORD'S PRESENCE and that eternally - here some of HIS WARNINGS to those willing to hear GOD'S CALLING!
---Melody on 8/3/18


Monk, I have younger sisters STILL ALIVE, who can pray WITH ME, or pray about things for me or others needs, who don't have any more influence than any other saved person.

But let it be known, I or any born-again Christians DO NOT PRAY TO THE DEAD, COMMUNICATE IN ANY WAY WITH THE DEAD. We believe according to scripture this is witchcraft.
---kathr4453 on 8/3/18


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Kathr4435 said, "I did not make up the term, co-redemptress or co-redemptrex ...both meaning the same. It exists ONLY because of the "Catholic teaching" about Mary."

Rather, Kathr, it is in SPITE OF the teaching of the Catholic Church.

If you can find ONE credible Catholic source, and if it cannot be traced to a Protestant source, I will be flabbergasted!

In the mean time, I can find all sorts of titles of Mary where we ask her to pray TO the Son--Jesus for us! Which is the same thing as asking your elder sister to pray for you.
---Monk_Brendan on 8/2/18


\\Actually Cluny, there are sects of the Catholic Church who do. \\

What is one of these "sects of the Catholic Church" who teach this?

And just what do you mean by "sects of the Catholic Church"?

Please explain, if you know.

||Also names , titles , and feast days named for Mary, as well as all of "Our Lady of this or That" , all over the globe come to MORE than 2000. ||

What is your source for this information? How did you come up with it?

FWIW, I entered "titles of the Virgin Mary" in our favorite search engine, and nowhere did I see anywhere near 2000.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/2/18


kathr4453:

You can't judge the Catholic church as a whole by what a few of its splinter sects believe, any more than you can judge Christianity as a whole by what a few of its splinter sects believe. The Catholic church doesn't teach that Mary is a co-redemptrix. Nevertheless, the fact that a Pope was the first one that mentioned the idea, and the fact that many believe this, and are allowed to continue believe it without being properly taught and corrected by the church that this is wrong, is the church's responsibility.
---StrongAxe on 8/2/18


Actually Cluny, there are sects of the Catholic Church who do. You are welcome to pull up many sites online discussing this issue. If it's something NEVER HEARD OF BEFORE, the term would be unheard of, and no sites discussing it. NOW if I said the Catholic Church teaches Mary was actually a red robin, and you disputed that saying the Catholic Church NEVER said such a thing, then yes, you would be correct.

I did not make up the term, co-redemptress or co-redemptrex ...both meaning the same. It exists ONLY because of the "Catholic teaching" about Mary.

Also names , titles , and feast days named for Mary, as well as all of "Our Lady of this or That" , all over the globe come to MORE than 2000.
---kathr4453 on 8/2/18


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kathr, despite what you are saying here, and others say, the Roman Catholic church has NEVER taught that the Virgin Mary is co-redemptrix.

And where did you come up with 2000 titles for her? Are these listed somewhere on a ROMAN CATHOLIC site?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/1/18


Jerry, I believe Melody was making a point that many of the practices of the Catholic Church, is not in keeping with the LAW, yes the same LAW you promote as well. At least Melody is not two faced about it. No other denomination, if that is what you call it exalts Mary as co-redemptress, Queen of Heaven and the 2000 other TITLES given her.

We see even in Revelation, when John bows to an Angel....YES A REAL ANGEL, he is rebuked for doing so.
---kathr4453 on 8/1/18


Cluny:

On today's NBC news.

Matthew Albence, Jonathan White and James McHenry testify at the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on immigration enforcement and family reunification efforts on Capitol Hill on July 31, 2018.

Top officials from key government agencies told a Senate committee Tuesday that they first learned of the Trump administration's "zero tolerance" policy, which led to the separation of migrant children from their parents, when the Attorney General announced the policy publicly in April.

This is the doing of Sessions, and his boss Trump, not Obama.
---StrongAxe on 7/31/18


Melody: You are right in that the majority of Christians do not care one whit about God's Laws, preferring instead the commandments of men. They falsely claim that the 10 Commandment Law has been done away with or changed in some way. Meanwhile, the Bible says:

Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

That having been said, I don't think it right to denigrate anyone because of their denomination. Anyone who loves Jesus is a brother (or sister) in Christ.


---jerry6593 on 8/1/18


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Yes, I pray our government will repent of forceful Drugging children, without their parent's consent who are held in these cages. May God have mercy on this country.

It's kinda hard to believe these same folks care about the unborn.

WHOEVER OFFENDS THE LEAST OF THESE LITTLE ONES....includes us.
---kathr4453 on 7/31/18


Nicole_Lacey:

Yes, those were under Obama - because the Trump administration refuses to allow the press to see the children now. But I was not speaking about the photos. I was speaking about statements both Sessions and Trump actually made this year boasting of using separation as a deterrent to illegal immigration.

Again, a law separating children and parents already existed under Clinton and Bush and Obama - for FELONIES only. But changing border jumping from a misdemeanor to a felony (and now eligible for separation) is a new TRUMP thing.

Trump finally reversed his position after public outcry, yet after a judge ordered the children reunited, the government missed the deadline for doing so, and keeps separating them.
---StrongAxe on 7/30/18


What pictures Nicole, ALL OF THEM?

Listen , tthe ZERO TOLERANCE was enforced by Sessions and Trump....where children..approx 3000 were separated from their parents, in 2018, and many have yet to be returned. Also is a case of a 6 year old girl molested twice. This is CURRENT news. There is a deadline that will have consequences if not met.

Your snarky reply does not change the facts. IF PERHAPS old photos were also circulating...that doesn't make this current situation FAKE NEWS.

You love fake news Nicole. That's obvious.

Scripture states ANYONE who hurts children will answer for it. Yes that includes Trump and Sessions.
---kathr4453 on 7/30/18


Kathr: Trump and Sessions put children in cages and yes Nicole, there are pictures to prove it.//

I guess you missed the retraction by the fake media?

They had to admit those pictures were taken in 2015.

Guess who was the President in 2015????

Your favorite President who did what you claim is soooo outrages.

Now I guess you won't see it as outrages now because Obama must had some reasonable explanation for putting separated children in cages.

1st Obama separated children from their parents.

2nd he put those traumatized kids in cages.

Anywho, Obama does anything wrong it's okay in your eyes.

So Melody, does God approve of you making false statements about another faith or persons?
---Nicole_Lacey on 7/30/18


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Seems like many prefer to defend and promote "their own distorted views of 'their own laws" - and even some won't accept - here or around the world - that all Laws were originated and made by THE LORD and no matter how this world under spiritual and moral decay try to distort it and ignore it by giving power of what GOD calls dissolute and immoral - HIS LAWS AND PRECEPTS will never change and blessings are for those who live by GOD'S LAWS and judgment for those who are against them - and this from beginning until end . . . foolishness is to even argue about it!
---Meloody on 7/29/18


TRUMP DOESN'T BELIEVE IN CHILDREN IN CAGES!

A pictures speaks a thousand words doesn't it Kathr?
---Nicole_Lacey on 7/29/18

Trump and Sessions put children in cages and yes Nicole, there are pictures to prove it. Not only that but a federal court order that these children must be reunited with parents at OUR GOVERNMENT EXPENSE , because our current government caused this issue.

Wow, I wonder how much this is costing the tax payers.
---kathr4453 on 7/30/18


Kathr: Now Obama did not do this. Only if there was a case of the belonging to the ones bringing them in..re Trafficing, or if the parent or parents were or had a criminal record. This was very few and far between. This today is NOT the same program Obama or Bush had.//

YOU BET YA!

TRUMP DOESN'T BELIEVE IN CHILDREN IN CAGES!

A pictures speaks a thousand words doesn't it Kathr?
---Nicole_Lacey on 7/29/18


Cluny:

Trump and Sessions boasted that separating children from parents was a deterrent against illegal entry. Far from "Sorry, we're enforcing the law", they deliberately caused pain and suffering. This is EVIL.

Illegal entry was a misdemeanor, but they made it a felony (that the law covered), to make more families eligible for separation.

A judge ruled that this must stop, and mandated that children be reunited with parents - yet the administration drags its feet, and though deadline has already passed, thousands of children still remain separated. It says many families are "not eligible" to be reunited. In one case, being a grandmother rather than a mother made her "ineligible".
---StrongAxe on 7/29/18


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Cluny:

As I understand it, separation was only require for felony offenses, and then only if the child was in danger, as illegal crossings were just misdemeanors (at least they used to be, that may have recently changed).
---StrongAxe on 7/29/18


Cluny: Thanks for that refreshing bit of truth. Our leftist friends can't seem to find their way through the fog of Communist brainwashing to see the truth in front of their faces. They should ponder the meaning of the word ILLEGAL and see if any insights occur to them.


---jerry6593 on 7/29/18


Sorry Cluny, don't drink the kool-aid. TRUMP and SESSIONS admitted THEY separated children from families to deter and discourage them from coming to the USA. They made it a FEDERAL CRIME, where over 3000 children were taken from their parents.

Now Obama did not do this. Only if there was a case of the children not belonging to the ones bringing them in...re TRAFFICING, or if the parent or parents were or had a criminal record. This was very few and far between. This today is NOT the same program Obama Or Bush had.
---kathr4453 on 7/29/18


Cluny: asylum seekers must come in through ports of entry. Those seeking refuge and those seeking asylum are distinguished in present immigration law.//

Amen!

StrongAxe, I have a very common Spanish last name. I only use the 2nd hyphenated name here on CN. Very little know my 2nd name is Lacey. I only use my 1st Spanish name. Plus I have a STRONG Spanish accent.

No one and no one in Alabama or ANYWHERE has ever told me to go back to my own Country!

Are people so suppose to believe you a White man not living in the South or me?

A Black Hispanic woman with a Spanish last name and a strong Spanish accent.

Cops in Alabama have helped me in the past and NEVER asked to see any documents.
---Nicole_Lacey on 7/29/18


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\\Current government policies separating children from parents - even after a judge order this to stop.\\

Trump stopped this policy that started with Obama.

\\ Asylum seekers come here legally, yet even they are separated from their children.\\

No, they are NO longer separated.

And asylum seekers must come in through ports of entry. Those seeking refuge and those seeking asylum are distinguished in present immigration law.


Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/28/18


Cluny:

I referred to this country as a legal entity, and this country as a group of people.

Current government policies separating children from parents - even after a judge order this to stop. Asylum seekers come here legally, yet even they are separated from their children.

Meanwhile, we have incidencts daily of whites who call the police on non-whites, regardless of whether they are African Americans, Native Americans, Mexican citizens, legal aliens, or illegal aliens, and scream at them "go back to your own country!". This is the kind of contempt for others shown by Sodom.
---StrongAxe on 7/27/18


This country spurns thoses who come in ILLEGALLY.

I go to a church that is filled with immigrants, including our priest and his wife.

They all entered the USA legally.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/27/18

Can you show me in the Bible where it says to spurn those who came here illegally??

and How do you know they are all legal immigrants?

Did you check their green cards?
---NurseRobert on 7/27/18


\\Just like Sodom spurned the angels, this country turns away refugees.
---StrongAxe on 7/25/18\\

Wrong, StrongAxe.

This country spurns thoses who come in ILLEGALLY.

I go to a church that is filled with immigrants, including our priest and his wife.

They all entered the USA legally.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/27/18


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If you feel for the multitudes that are openly and cynically showing their rebellion against THE LORD AND HIS PRECEPTS and if no repentance from them, they'll be eternally lost? . . . then: Pray for them and bring THE TRUTH OF THE GOSPEL to them, if possible - but love for them is not condoning or agreeing with wickedness as this last days society is doing and as GOD'S WORD says: "The blind leading the blind" - and those who go along with this depravation - they'll be judge by GOD as well - because obvious it is that GOD'S SPIRIT didn't dwell in them either!
---Melody on 7/25/18


I pulled up the website Melody copied and pasted her "quote" using scripture AND not scripture, called, Internationalcopsforchrist. It's a strange site, where these international cops misuse Romans 13:1 that God put COPS in charge and we are to obey them.....they also commingle the gospel, like cults do do that. BUT another interesting is a link it's linked to ......waits for it....

The 666 Surveillance .....wait for it........very POLITICAL, .....saying how wonderful Russia is...wait for it.....and those against this alliance with America are end times troublemakers....all posted on their Facebook site.

ALSO Melody, cops are NOT independent agents for God enforcing Gods laws on folks....at least not here in the USA.
---kathr4453 on 7/26/18


Also on ....Internationalcopsforchrist ...is where they misrepresent the 1783 Treaty using the 1763 words between England and France....a totally different treaty. When you are shown a link to this 1783 treaty.....the website has been removed.

Melody is not here as an individual Christian ...but someone all fired up through this cult.....and then has the audacity to CURSE anyone who questions her false stance.

If anything Melody you should be thankful that someone took the time to show you you need to cut those ties ASAP with this website ministry...also is a Media News Outlet....possible an extreme right wing propaganda machine preying on ignorant baby Christians who don't know better.
---kath4453 on 7/26/18


Melody, I love the verses you are posting, but I believe those are comforting to Christians living in this evil world, who are no longer part of this evil world. Colossians 3:1-4.

What do YOU want to do with the all the sodomites in America so that YOU can continue to enjoy your prosperity false gospel? Prison? Stoning? Firing squad? Putin and the Russian Orthodox way? May want to read the article "Putin and the Triumph of Christianity in Russia". Online.

Well again, not the Christianity of NT scripture.
---kathr4453 on 7/25/18


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Melody:

Many of the founding fathers were Deists (believing in an impersonal God who does not interfere with the world), not Christians. Thomas Jefferson kept a bible with Jesus' teachings, but ripped out all pages involving miracles. The Treaty of Tripoli said "The United States is in no way founded on the Christian Religion".

What sort of "Christianity" permitted ownership of slaves and treated them as less than human?

Ezekiel 16:49:
Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

Just like Sodom spurned the angels, this country turns away refugees.
---StrongAxe on 7/25/18


they aren't not only denying the Truth but they twist (under their own arrogance and rebellion - our own words) - didn't THE LORD say that was going to happen? "If they hated ME, they will also hate you".
---Melody on 7/25/18

Are you kidding? You get challenged on your false statements so it means we hate God? You were asked a direct question and you refused to answer it. So are you now a persecuted soul??

Your own arrogance shows you out.
---NurseRobert on 7/25/18


To Jerry 6593:

Thank you dear Brother in CHRIST our LORD, you are right . . . as you can see: they aren't not only denying the Truth but they twist (under their own arrogance and rebellion - our own words) - didn't THE LORD say that was going to happen? "If they hated ME, they will also hate you".

May THE LORD be THE ONE to do the right judgment and apply it: My trust is in THE LORD - and under HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS - I'm sharing!

"But whoso hearkens unto ME, shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil". Proverbs 1:31 Psalms 3:24.26
---Melody on 7/25/18


What a disgrace that this nation that was founded in Christianity, has now succumbed to the same Sodomite wickedness that sent destruction to the ancient places from THE LORD GOD that sees this sin as abominable: "All things shall pass away, but not HIS WORD" - Share it while time to do so!!!
---Melody on 7/22/18

All sin is an abomination to God. Yet if God had found even 10 righteous people he would not have destroyed S and G. I know there are more than 10 righteous folks in the USA.

Is THIS why the religious Right LOVE Putin and as some want a Putin for President? Now THAT IS SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS phariseeism. And this is today's Christianity?
---kathr445 on 7/25/18


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jerry6593:

I am leftist, progressive, democratic socialist. Not socialist. DEFINITELY not Communist. you and Haz27 so hate anything left you can't seem to tell the difference between these.

There is a toxic bias in much of Evangelical Christianity that automatically assumes right is good and left is evil. In the Gospels, Pharisees were far right, while Jesus and disciples were anti-establishment leftists. The Bible mentions "liberal" many times, usually in a good way.

When have I ever "attacked" Melody? Do not bear false witness! Another is watching, and He doesn't like that.

Haz27 isn't American either. I at least live here. Besides, what does being American have to do with being a Christian?
---StrongAxe on 7/25/18


Melody,
Your love for God and for our Nation has not gone unnoticed. Many of the alleged Christians here are leftist, socialist, progressive, Communist, etc., although they claim they are not. One, Strong Axe, is not even American. You can see by the antics of such individuals (the left) on the news that they are of questionable moral character. It is no wonder that such folk would attack a Jesus-loving Christian like you. Stay strong. Others are watching.



---jerry6593 on 7/25/18


Exactly Cluny, words without proof. And without proof, it is based on a lie. First lie is the Treaty of 1783 is not the same as the Treaty of 1763.

Second, scripture ITSELF, not Melodys words are what we place our faith in. My faith is not in some LIE that has no proof or scriptural backing.

This offends Melody, but she fails to see it offends God. The Gospel of America is simply a false gospel Melody.

So Melody, please find someone else to curse, ( which is actually demonic) when another Christian is proclaiming the TRUTH you just don't want to hear.

As I said before Jesus Christ died and rose again to save INDIVIDUALS, not nations. We are a nation of Christians, ( along with many religions).
---kathr4453 on 7/25/18


To Kathr4453:

And first of all: May this be the last time that you respond to my messages and under your offensive and distorted words about my belief and faith in THE LIVING GOD - THE LORD JESUS CHRIST! - you apply your own insulting words to yourself - and I disregard them as they coming from someone that in her 'own righteousness' feel it's alright to do so not accepting and visualizing her own lack of discernment and failures and above all things: The lack of Christian sensitivity that comes from a heart that has been changed by THE LORD'S SPIRIT AND GRACE within and from your words to me: "Your faith is based on a lie" - they are returned to you, where they belong!!! . . .
---Melody on 7/24/18


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THE GOD of The Bible is WHOM The U.S.A. is based upon. The unalienable Rights of Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness, come from the Judeo/Christian GOD and no one else, and HE IS THE ROCK of The Republic: "THE LORD IS my ROCK and my FORTRESS, and my DELIVERER, my GOD, my STRENGTH in WHOM I will trust, my BUCKLER and THE HORN of my Salvation, and my HIGH TOWER" = Psalm 18:2\\

And in which of our founding documents is this found, Melody?

Please be specific.

Mere repetition is no proof.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/24/18


Melody you are confusing two different treaties. You are talking about the 1763 Treaty between France and England.

Samuel, God never mixes paganism with Christianity. Not now, not then, not ever. Masonic stuff goes back to Nimrod. Now if you claim you are still under the Law, then the law forbid coexisting with false gods and pagan practices. You can't have it both ways. This is clearly written in my heart..

What about yours?
---kathr4453 on 7/24/18


Melody:

Where did you get the idea that the U.S.A. was made a nation in "THE NAME OF THE MOST HOLY AND UNDIVIDED TRINITY"? I have never before heard that term used with regards to the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution, or any other federal document or process. Can you show any references to this?

In contrast, in the Treaty of Tripoli, signed in 1796, contains Article 11 that says "the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."
---StrongAxe on 7/24/18


Melody, let's get something straight ...God never made any covenant with a Gentile nation ..NEVER EVER. And just because humans made some sort of statement taking Gods word out of Context does not mean God has to honor it. Even the Moromons think they are Gods New Chosen people...but saying it and thinking it does not make it so. The only covenant God made with any NATION was Israel. And no scripture new or old foretells of God taking it away from Israel,and giving it to another Nation. As a matter of fact America is not even mentioned in ALL of scripture.

You faith is based on a LIE, that one day will be your undoing.

We are not the New Israel or Gods NEW chosen people. Only SATAN wants you to believe that lie.
---kathr4453 on 7/24/18


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Yes we need to pray for our Nation and our people. More people are committing Suicide in this year then the past 10. Children are being placed in cages. Racism is being accepted and a good reason to murder people and Nazi's are considered to be good people.

I pray for our President I pray for our country.

One last small point. The majority of Founding Fathers were Masons. A group many Christians hate. A few were Atheist or free Thinkers.

So answer me this. Will you accept the Masons can be Christians or will you decide this nation is not a Christian nation?
---Samuelbb7 on 7/24/18


To Cluny:

And 'when did you get the notion' that this nation was not founded in Christianity? . . . before we discuss something, let's be wise and study the facts, right? = "Wisdom above all things" - says THE LORD GOD that blessed this nation above all others - Amen!

When The U.S.A. became a nation on September 3, 1783, it was done in "THE NAME OF THE MOST HOLY AND UNDIVIDED TRINITY" - as we know: The concept of THE HOLY TRINITY is unique to Christianity (and no matter what those who are against THE TRUTH may twist things around) - foolishness of men without GOD DISCERNMENT is to do that - as for judgment they put themselves unless they recognize their transgressions!
---Melody on 7/24/18


To Cluny following response about our Christian nation:

America was founded in three documents: The Declaration of Independence, The Paris Treaty and The constitution, these original documents give conclusive proof that America is a Christian nation!

When The Constitution was completed on September 17, 1787, the Delegates signed The Constitution in 'The year of our LORD" - this is a direct reference to Christianity and a statement that the United States of America was founded in The Christian faith!

"Blessed is the nation WHOSE GOD IS THE LORD" ... let's be praying for spiritual and moral restoration!
---Melody on 7/24/18


To Cluny in reference to The U.S.A Christian foundation:

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THE GOD of The Bible is WHOM The U.S.A. is based upon. The unalienable Rights of Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness, come from the Judeo/Christian GOD and no one else, and HE IS THE ROCK of The Republic: "THE LORD IS my ROCK and my FORTRESS, and my DELIVERER, my GOD, my STRENGTH in WHOM I will trust, my BUCKLER and THE HORN of my Salvation, and my HIGH TOWER" = Psalm 18:2

"It's better to trust in THE LORD, than to put confidence in man" = Psalm 118: 8 . . . Selah!
---Melody on 7/24/18


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Melody, where did you get the notion that the USA was "founded on Christianity?"

There is not ONE quote from the NT in our founding documents, which reflect more enlightenment ideas than Christian ones.

Don't forget, at the time of the American Revolution, conservative Bible believers were royalists.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/23/18


Well, this is the Age of GRACE, where we are to preach the Gospel to all the world, yes even godless America where we too have sinners like the rest of the world. Remember folks, Jesus didn't come to save NATIONS, but individual sinners. We already KNOW how it's gonna end. And because of that...PREACH THE GOSPEL TO THOSE WHO ARE LOST....before it's too late.

I say......LETS PRAY FOR SOULS INSTEAD.

I just don't see anything in our constitution where America put its faith in the death and resurrection Of Jesus Christ whereby we define the word CHRISTIAN.

All this MASONIC icon stuff on our money, and all over DC also many founding fathers were members of etc is NOT CHRISTIAN. Get a clue.
---kathr4453 on 7/23/18


What a disgrace that this nation that was founded in Christianity, has now succumbed to the same Sodomite wickedness that sent destruction to the ancient places from THE LORD GOD that sees this sin as abominable: "All things shall pass away, but not HIS WORD" - Share it while time to do so!!!
---Melody on 7/22/18


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