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Should Christians Carry A Gun

Should Christians carry guns? I have a lot of Christian friends that carry guns. Is this a sin?

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I do not believe it is a sin. But many forget that guns in houses not kept properly lead to many deaths of Children and of other family members.
---Samuelbb7 on 10/29/18


Trey, did you see what just happen at a McDonald?

Another GOOD man with a gun was at a McDonald with his kids killed a mask man shooting in McDonald.

His own kid got shot but will live.

The employees EXPRESS their gratitude to the good man and his gun. One even said he couldn't imagine what would had happen if he DIDN'T have his gun.

Of course I ONLY saw this story on Fox news.

The liberal media would NEVER tell America the benefits of original GOOD people with guns that OUT WEIGH bad people with guns.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/29/18


GOD BLESS TREY!

StrongAxe: The reason scandals seem worse with priests than ministers,..priests also violate vows of celibacy.//

Married Minsters commit triple sins. Sin against God 2. Using the other for pleasure as an object. 3. Committing Adultery

//Marriage is a safe alternative to uncontrollable lust,//

So WHAT'S Protestant Pastors EXCUSES?

//many will choose celibacy while not being able to handle it.//

Many choose marriage while not being able to handle it.

//only those to whom it has been given" - i.e. not everyone can handle celibacy,//

2012 there were 414,313 Priests out of 7 billion people in the world.

So I guess 414,313 out of 7,000,000,000 would FIT Matthew 19:12
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/28/18


I carry a gun every day. I do not carry a gun because I am afraid. I do not carry a guy to commit a crime. I do not carry a gun because my job requires it. I carry a gun to protect the people I love and innocent people that are around me from evil people in the world. I have had occasions where bad people near me tried to do bad things but I prevented them without pulling my gun. That would be a last resort. I would only do that to protect myself and others from death. I carry a gun because I love people and don't want bad things to happen to good people. I carry a gun because bad guys carry guns.
I do not believe it is a sin.
God's people are sheep and I am an under shepherd.
---trey on 10/12/18


Nicole_Lacey:

The reason scandals seem worse with priests than ministers, is that in addition to everything else, priests also violate vows of celibacy. Paul said "it is better to marry than to burn". Marriage is a safe alternative to uncontrollable lust, yet when celibacy is required for the ministry, many will choose celibacy while not being able to handle it.

When Jesus gave his harsh rule about remarrying divorcees, his apostles said "it would be better not to marry", and Jesus said "this word is not for everyone, only those to whom it has been given" - i.e. not everyone can handle celibacy, and it is unreasonable for the Church to require something both Jesus and Paul said most people can't do.
---StrongAxe on 10/6/18




If Christians get food poisoning at Wendy's, should they carry a gun in there and threaten Wendy's to clean up its act?
---Johnny74 on 10/6/18


So, if you get food poison from eating at Wendys ..
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/5/18

Of course not, but I would stop going to a place that poisoned me and find a new place to eat.

Yes, the truth is the truth, and the truth is the leadership of your church continued to allow abuse of their parishioners.

You should certainly wise up.
---NurseRobert on 10/6/18


When I became a Christian and joined the Seventh day Adventist church. My future Father in law gave me some great advice.

I am to follow Jesus and obey him. Not the pastor not anyone else. Humans are fallible and can lead us wrong. Jesus will always lead us right.

We need to keep our eyes on Jesus.
---Samuelbb7 on 10/6/18


NurseRobert: Hellish mouth?? excuse me if I refuse to support a church where the leadership has hidden this behavior for decades.//

That is the crazy!

So, if you get food poison from eating at Wendys you are going to stop eating?

The Truth is the Truth!

Even the devils knew Jesus was the Son of God.

That's why Jesus told them to shut up because He didn't want them to tell anyone.

So JUST BECAUSE the devils said Jesus was the Son of God you are going to STOP believing in Jesus?

Believe in the Truth even if it comes from a hellish mouth!

Jesus is God even if satan states He is God!

Wise up
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/5/18


Jesus said wherever two or more are gathered together I will be with them.

The word church is based on a group of those who fellowship and help each others.
---Samuelbb7 on 10/5/18




Melody

I think you misunderstood. I was talking about language, not theology. Blessings to you.
---Johnny74 on 10/5/18


Steveng: Nicole_Lacey wrote: "I also know more Protestant Pastors who abuse children and have affairs on their wives than Catholic Priests."

And how do you absolutely, positively know this for sure?//

From arrests. Didn't you know that arrests are made public?

Priest abuses are make NATIONAL news because they are RARE.

A Priest having an affair with a woman also makes national news.

Pastors having AFFAIRS on their wives sadly are COMMON!

//If you DO know specifically who is doing this, why are you not whistle-blowing?//

About 85% of the people in the PEWS already KNOW.

You should ask why the Pastors still have followers?

Remember Jimmy Swaggart?
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/5/18


Johnny:


Johnny:

That would be for you "a strange thing" - but it's important and necessary to give honor to GOD'S WORD - as it deserves IT . . . For if THE LORD said: "When two are gathered in MY NAME, I AM in the midst of them"" - it is!

Let's study and discern GOD'S WORD, before we give our own perspective about it - right? = "THY WORD is A Lamp unto my feet" - so I won't stumble on the way and make others do as well!
---Melody on 10/5/18


"Steve and Jim assembled for prayer." That would be a strange way to use the word "assemble."
---Johnny74 on 10/4/18


Nursey: "Yes there are."

Then, by your own logic, your denomination (whatever it is) is pro-abortion.



---jerry6593 on 10/5/18


"Assembly" as where two or more are gathered in Jesus' name.
---Steveng on 10/4/18


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Steveng, I will also remind you of St. Paul's words, "Let us not forsake the assembling of ourselves together as is the manner of some."

Or is this verse not in the Bible as received by the worldly denominational "church" of Steveng?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/4/18


\\Cluny wrote: "Rough translation: Nobody is a Christian all by himself."

Why not?\\

Because this is the experience of millions of Christians during the hundreds--almost 2000--years between Pentecost and now before you came along, Steveng.

Why do YOU think you can be a Christian all by yourself?

In St. Paul's words, "Can the hand say to the eye, 'I don't need you'"?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/4/18


One cannot be a Christian all by oneself because the church is a community of believers.
---Johnny74 on 10/4/18


Johnny74 wrote: "The church is a community. One can't do it by oneself."

Matthew 18:20 meaning at a cafe, a park or one's home.

Cluny wrote a comment to my 10/1/18 post: "Why do you need to go to the grocery store if you've already eaten once, Steveng?"

Huh?

Cluny wrote: "Rough translation: Nobody is a Christian all by himself."

Why not?
---Steveng on 10/4/18


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Ecclesiastes 9:12 - As thou knowest not the way of The spirit, Nor how the bones do grow in the womb of her with Child: Even so thou Knowest not the works of God who make all.
---RichardC on 10/1/18


---jerry6593 on 9/29/18

Yes there are. Unlike you, I am not rabidly profetus. I accept, just as your church does, that abortions are necessary at times.
---NurseRobert on 10/1/18


Hebrews 10:25 - Not forsaking the assembling together, as the manner of some is: But exhorting one another and much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

( Interesting verse - The Day - is a reference to Judgement Day , But I think It works also with Hebrews 9:27 )

Matthew 18:20 - For where there two or three are gather in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
---RichardC on 10/1/18


\\ If you are a christian why do you need to "attend" the church if you are already the church? \\

Why do you need to go to the grocery store if you've already eaten once, Steveng?

There is an old Christian proverb: Unus Christianus, nullus Christianus.

Rough translation: Nobody is a Christian all by himself.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/1/18


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The church is a community. One can't do it by oneself.
---Johnny74 on 10/1/18


Attend church?

Christians ARE the church. Not a denomination or a building built with man's hands. The true meaning of "church" today surely has changed from the original meaning. If you are a christian why do you need to "attend" the church if you are already the church?
---Steveng on 10/1/18


Nurse Bobby: Are there any pro-abortion people in your denomination? If so, why do you stay?


---jerry6593 on 9/29/18


"Of course, but that scenario isn't an excuse not to have the gun."

I wasn't aware anyone needed an excuse...however, personally I would not want to harm or kill another, and those commonly occur when a gun is used, so I prefer not to have one. Others are free to choose according to their beliefs and priorities.
---chria9396 on 9/29/18


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---jerry6593 on 9/28/18

It is the official stand of your church. If you are so anti-abortion you would denounce your church and go somewhere else. To not do so is hypocrisy.
---NurseRobert on 9/28/18


1 Timothy 3:1 - This is true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he should disireth a good work.

1 Timothy 3:2 - A bishop then must be Blameless, The husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of Good Behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach,

1 Timothy 3:3 - Not given to wine, no striker, Not greedy of filthy lucre , but patient, not a Brawler, not covetous:

1 Timothy 3:4 - One that ruleth well in his own house, having his children in subject with all Gravity.

1 Timothy 3:5 - For if a Man know not how to rule his own House, How shall he take care of the Church of God ?
---RichardC on 9/28/18


Bob Bushki:

No, the vast majority of SDA members DO NOT approve of abortion - only a few liberals in the leadership of the North American Division. Does anyone in your denomination approve of abortion?

Yes, I attend church every week.


---jerry6593 on 9/28/18


Lacey, if you google Priest Pays for Abortion, you will find a number of articles.. The clearest is from Lifenews (anti abortion site). They spell out the Dioceses of Scranton is still paying him a stipend of over $1200 a month.

Hellish mouth?? excuse me if I refuse to support a church where the leadership has hidden this behavior for decades.
---NurseRobert on 9/27/18


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It's not that she knows, it's easy for her to say it (no conscience . . . "For unless THE LORD built 'the house' (the spiritual one - the builders work in vain" - religion cannot change anyone's inner heart or conscience) . . . may THE LORD under HIS MERCY make her recognize her wrongs and while still time to do so - for tomorrow - only GOD knows!
---Melody on 9/27/18


Nicole_Lacey wrote: "I also know more Protestant Pastors who abuse children and have affairs on their wives than Catholic Priests."

And how do you absolutely, positively know this for sure? Are you part of the inner circle? Or you read it msm? Or maybe an articles against Protestants or christians in general? If you DO know specifically who is doing this, why are you not whistle-blowing?
---Steveng on 9/26/18


Monk: Nicole Lacey said, "No decent human being should treat women as either one of them did. Look how many of Trump's wives he got rid of?//

No I didn't. You mean Samuel not me.

//So, Nicole, you can get your back down, and hang with us,//

Monk, I already with you.

I understand making mistakes, but this is the 2nd time you wrongly fussed at me.

I think you just want to find something to get upset with me.

//so that we can BOLDLY go to the Father in prayer for our President.//

I have been praying for this GREAT President before he became President.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/26/18


Apparently not a sin.
I can't find scripture for being armed or not being armed,
I guess God thought salvation was more important.
---michael_e on 9/26/18


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Thanks and I did Google him. He "wasn't in Church." now and says Mass in his bedroom. Which also a no no.

According to the same article the is a grand jury on the matter and the Church paid the victim $75,000 not him.

Please cite where the Church is STILL paying him.

//The list goes on and on. All you have to do is look, or are you afraid of what you will find.//

Nope. I also know more Protestant Pastors who abuse children and have affairs on their wives than Catholic Priests.

Just because certain food chains are found with food poison doesn't mean I am going to STOP EATING.

Why should I leave because someone else sin?

The Truth is the Truth even if it comes out of a HELLISH mouth!
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/26/18


Nicole Lacey said, "No decent human being should treat women as either one of them did. Look how many of Trump's wives he got rid of?

He has only been married 3 times, to which he has had two divorces. No matter what you think about him, he is honest about that.

So, Nicole, you can get your back down, and hang with us, so that we can BOLDLY go to the Father in prayer for our President.
---Monk_Brendan on 9/26/18


---Nicole_Lacey on 9/25/18

Google Thomas D. Skotek. The Church is STILL paying him, every month. He should be in jail. Bishops in Pennsylvania covered up massive abuse of children by priests. A Cardinal in DC resigned because HE was abusing children. The list goes on and on. All you have to do is look, or are you afraid of what you will find.
---NurseRobert on 9/26/18


---jerry6593 on 9/26/18

The SDA supports a womans decision to have an abortion and they perform abortions in their hospitals...

Do YOU attend the SDA church?
---Robert_VonBuskirk on 9/26/18


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Chria: Having a gun MIGHT prevent rape in some instances, not in others, and in fact might contribute to more problems, like a gun taken and used against its owner...//

Of course, but that scenario isn't an excuse not to have the gun.

With that logic, flying a plane can get you to another area quicker, but when it goes down your survival rate is very low.

But driving a car is more dangerous since car accidents has an higher percentage than plane crashes.

Not having a gun gives you a 1% advantage of stopping a man from raping you.

I rather take the odds of a man taking the gun from me than pushing a man off me.

You are RIGHT, God does allows evil.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/26/18


Nicole Clinton was an adulterer.

He was never convicted of rape. Nor did the women he sleeped with accuse him of rape. Clinton and Trump both committed multiple adulteries. Do a google search.

The Word of the LORD is to be our guide not politics.

No decent human being should treat women as either one of them did. Look how many of Trump's wives he got rid of?
---Samuelbb7 on 9/26/18


"Blessed are the meek. Meekness toward God is that disposition of spirit in which we accept His dealings with us as good, therefore no need for disputing or resisting. The meek are those wholly relying on God rather than their own strength to defend against injustice. Meekness toward evil people means knowing God is permitting the injuries they inflict, that He is using them to purify His elect, and that He will deliver His elect in His time (Isa 41:17, Luk 18:1-8). Gentleness or meekness is the opposite of self-assertiveness and self-interest. The gentle person is not occupied with self at all, he/her trust in God's goodness, and His control over the situation."
---joseph on 9/26/18


Sammy: "Jerry why do you oppose women only when the [sic] speak against republicans? But support them when the speak against democrats?"

Because Republican women are virtuous and demoncrat women are evil.

You may want to look at a little thing called evidence. There was much evidence against Bill Clinton, but there is none against Brett Kavanaugh - in fact, there are hundreds of character witnesses on his side.

Why are you on the side of Satan in the anti-God, pro-infanticide, pro-sexual perversion socialist demoncrat party? You're supposed to be SDA!



---jerry6593 on 9/26/18


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NurseRoberts: I have made my stand on abortion abundantly//

Again, it ISN'T your stand to make abundantly. Don't you understand?

It doesn't affect you in any way unless you believe my 1st statement in the ONLY way it will affect you.

//And your church continues to pay a defrocked priest who molested at 14 year old arranged for her abortion instead of having him thrown in jail.//

As you molested a 14 year old girl and paid Police Officers not to arrest you. And paid her parents to move away so you wouldn't be tempted to molest her again.

Like the smear without evidence or citation?

//Who is take your rights?//

Sorry, I didn't have place.

DEMOCRATS.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/25/18


Nicole,I understand.

Having a gun MIGHT prevent rape in some instances, might not in others, and in fact might contribute to more problems, like a gun taken and used against its owner...

I only asked a question, and did not say anyone needs or doesn't need a gun. Forgive me for any confusion. As I think about it, I don't want to imply that a persons faith,(or as you brought up praying enough) stops bad things from happening or not "enough" faith, or prayer causes...Clearly many in scripture have had faith yet bad happened to them. I agree God does not cause evil, but He has allowed it, allowed some to make certain choices. I do believe God is sovereign. I may not understand all His ways, but need to trust HIS is best.
---chria9396 on 9/25/18


Jerry, I'm against capital punishment because the Savior gave the qualifications for the executioners.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/25/18


Chria, when I asked: "Chria, are you claiming woman who were raped were not PRAYING enough?" You gave this reply: Of course not

As I clarify my statement do you mind doing the same?

You wrote this:
If God is our defense, our shield,why do we need guns?

That suggest to me since women got rape because didn't have a gun (which could have prevented the rape) they got rape because they neither had a gun to prevent the rape or God as their Defender or Shield.

Now since God doesn't cause any evil it suggested to me you believed they were not praying to God during the attack.

Do you mind explaining what you meant by not needing a gun to stop a man (usually stronger than women) from raping you?
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/25/18


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As you are not in the fight when it comes to the Abortion debate but you jump into that debate.

---Nicole_Lacey on 9/25/18

I have made my stand on abortion abundantly clear, which BTW, is the same stance of Jerry's SDA church. And your church continues to pay a defrocked priest who molested at 14 year old arranged for her abortion instead of having him thrown in jail.

You also didn't answer the question. Who is take your rights?
---NurseRobert on 9/25/18


NurseRoberts: what do you mean by "you all?" More broad brush strokes.//

You should know the people using the brushes on CN which I took to use against you. All against the 2nd is StrongAxe, Cluny, Kathr and I believe Samuel (not sure about him. If you are not my apologies now). So as far as to Samuel, only he have I painted over with your broad brush.

//who is "taking away your rights?" I don't care if you have a gun. I have a concealed carry permit and I carry a gun.. So what?//

Then why are you jumping into the fight?

As you are not in the fight when it comes to the Abortion debate but you jump into that debate.

You don't have a woman's body and your body is NO LONGER in a woman's body.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/25/18


Samuel: (to Jerry) Trump on the other hand a multiple adulterer is fine.//

why do you all compare Trump's adulterous sin against Clinton's rape?

Clinton raping women is committed adultery as well!

We say it take 2 to have an affair DOESN'T APPLY to Clinton!

It only applies to Trump!

//He brags and puts down women he has abused but that is okay?//

StrongAxe needs to apply the 5 (6) Commandant to you not Jerry.

Trump bragged about women LETTING him touch them.

So when your wife lets you touch her are you saying you ABUSED her? Of course not.

That standard only applies to underage children or mentally challenge adults who allow but can't allow which is called statutory rape.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/25/18


So who is using broad brushes, you all or me?
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/24/18

You are. And what do you mean by "you all?" More broad brush strokes. And who is "taking away your rights?" I don't care if you have a gun. I have a concealed carry permit and I carry a gun.. So what?

The murder capital of the world is Chicago.
---jerry6593 on 9/25/18

More hyperbole? Not even close. Chicago doesn't even land in the top 50 in the world. In the US, Chicago is #9.

And you defend the likes of Donald Trump and Roy Moore.
---NurseRobert on 9/25/18


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Dear Jerry Clinton was still impeached.

Trump on the other hand a multiple adulterer is fine. He brags and puts down women he has abused but that is okay?

Rapists molesters and men who mistreat women are in both left and right.

All who mistreat women should be held accountable. There is no one side that should get a pass for political reasons.

In the Bible if a women is raped with no witnesses in the country. She is to be believed and the man put to death.

Jerry why do you oppose women only when the speak against republicans? But support them when the speak against democrats?
---Samuelbb7 on 9/25/18


ax: "You called over 50% of American voters sexual predators"

How do you like it? I clearly stated that I was using a leftist technique. It was YOU who stated that "people in the South are more violent" - a most ugly lie. The murder capital of the world is Chicago, a NORTHERN city with some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country.

As for sexual predators, you communists adore and defend the likes of rapist Bill Clinton and his enabling wife while supporting a lunatic activist in her unsupportable 36-year-old molestation claim against the honorable Judge Kavanaugh.


---jerry6593 on 9/25/18


"Chria, are you claiming woman who were raped were not PRAYING enough?"

---Nicole_Lacey on 9/24/18


Of course not.
---chria9396 on 9/25/18


NurseRobert: For want of a better word, this has got to be one of the dumbest statements I have heard you make.//

Now you are understanding how we FEEL when you all make SIMILAR DUMB STATEMENTS!

//How can you sit there and make such a broad brush remark?//

Just using your own broad brushes.

Don't assume I brought a gun to harm someone instead of personal protection.

Don't take away my RIGHT because someone else abused the 2nd Amend.

So who is using broad brushes, you all or me?
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/24/18


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As for abortion, the leftists men also hate it because they don't want the responsibility of caring for the child. That's the REAL reason they support abortion.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/24/18

For want of a better word, this has got to be one of the dumbest statements I have heard you make. How can you sit there and make such a broad brush remark?
---NurseRobert on 9/24/18


Jerry excellent point.

Look at the ME TOO movement. It has taken down so many Leftists.

As for abortion, the leftists men also hate it because they don't want the responsibility of caring for the child. That's the REAL reason they support abortion.

The nonsense of it's 'her body' statement DOESN'T come to their mind when they rape or sexual abuse them.

StrongAxe, the rape statics are much higher in the North than the South.
Due to our practicing Christian beliefs.

Chria, are you claiming woman who were raped were not PRAYING enough?
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/24/18


jerry6593:

You wrote: Gun haters hate women because they want to see them raped. ... Since most leftists ARE sexual predators, they therefore hate guns.

You called over 50% of American voters sexual predators. I guess "thou shalt not bear false witness" isn't in YOUR bible?


Samuelbb7:

Yes. Unfortunately, I only had room to cite about half the quotes. Those show the contempt many Republicans have for women, and their total cluelessness about both medical and social implications of rape. Republican pundit Ann Coulter also said on 3/9/2012 that women should not have the right to vote.

From those quotes, we can see which party really hates women and is OK with them being raped.
---StrongAxe on 9/24/18


There is a huge difference between murdering (robbing or taking revenge on someone) and killing.

Even though Christs teaching that evil ought not to be requited with evil is killing an intruder not murder, is killing to protect the family?

Exodus 22:2-3 2
Psalm 82:4
Esther 8:11-12 11
Psalm 144:1

Besides, are we not to obey the laws of the land as the bible instructs?
---Steveng on 9/23/18


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No doubt Jesus jumps up and down and claps his hands every time a woman about to be raped blows her attacker away with a .45!
---Johnny74 on 9/23/18


Strong Ax those ridiculous lies show male ignorance and chauvinism at it's worst.

Men get raped by other men. That should be okay since men cannot get pregnant. By their reasoning. But I doubt they will agree.
---Samuelbb7 on 9/23/18


jerry6593:

From prominent Republicans:

Rape is kinda like the weather. If it's inevitable, relax and enjoy it. - Clayton Williams

From what I understand, if it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to shut the whole thing down - Todd Akin

Concern for rape victims is a red herring because conceptions from rape occur with the same frequency as snowfall in Miami. - James Leon Holmes

The facts show that people who are raped - who are truly raped - the juices don't flow, the body functions don't work and they don't get pregnant - Henry Aldridge

In the emergency room they have what's called rape kits, where a woman can get cleaned out. - Jodie Laudenberg
---StrongAxe on 9/23/18


"Jesus apparently advocated being armed." The only sword that I believe Jesus advocates is the sword of the spirit, which is the word of God. As concerning the sword intended for harm, whether of aggression, or of defense, He gave the warning that "all who take the sword will perish by the sword." Not may perish, but will perish. Why would he then advocate the purchase of such a sword? "The ONLY thing that keeps me in a FAIR fight with at man is a gun." If one is in a physical fight, then one is to close in proximity to another to safely use a gun, the only purpose the gun serves in that scenario is to increase the probability of the bearer being fatally harmed.
---joseph on 9/22/18


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Nicole: I think I'll use the leftists' strategy - here goes.

Gun haters hate women because they want to see them raped. I love hearing about ladies who carry concealed weapons blowing away sexual predators. It gets them off the streets. Since most leftists ARE sexual predators, they therefore hate guns. By their positions on abortion and capital punishment, it is clear that they also hate babies and love criminals.

How did I do?



---jerry6593 on 9/22/18


I've never had a gun and do not want one. When I watched movies or read stories that instilled fear I contemplated, but was not convinced. For others, that is for them to decide.

If God is our defense, our shield,why do we need guns?
---chria9396 on 9/22/18


Hebrews 4:12 - For the Word of God is living and powerful, and Sharper then any two edged sword, piecing even to the division of the soul and spirit , and joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Jeremiah 48:10 - Cursed be he that doeth the work of the Lord deceitfully, and cursed be he that keepeth back his sword from blood,

Ephesians 6:17 - And take on the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the spirit, which is the word of God,
---RichardC on 9/21/18


Nicole_Lacey:

You wrote: MOST PEOPLE buy guns for self-defense.

MOST people? Maybe where you live, but I don't personally know anyone who owns a gun, and I feel perfectly safe without one. Maybe it's because people in the South are more violent that you feel that you need a gun to keep you safe?

Forget that their true INTENT for the knife was to cut up food.

Kitchen knives cut up food. Stilettos, switchblades, and bowie knives are designed for other purposes.

The ONLY thing that keeps me in a FAIR fight with at man is a gun.

Do you often get into fights with men? The last fight I was in was in school. Again, maybe the South is more violent?
---StrongAxe on 9/22/18


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It was AFTER these quoted you gave, Jerry, that the Savior said, "Those who take up the sword shall die by the sword."

So, which verses apply?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/21/18


Jesus loves guns. He always advocated that we kill people in self-defense.
---Johnny74 on 9/21/18


What kind of question is that?

Because I want to practice my 1st Amend I have to give up my 2nd Amend?

Or to keep my 2nd Amend I have to give up my 1st Amend?

Why can't I be an American as a Muslim?

Besides why are you all so violent.

MOST PEOPLE buy guns for self-defense.

That's like saying people with knifes are violent.

Forget that their true INTENT for the knife was to cut up food.

The ONLY thing that keeps me in a FAIR fight with at man is a gun.

Funny how it's ONLY men who don't want women to have guns.

SHAME ON YOU MEN! Except for Jerry The only man with common sense on CN.

Give up your cars which KILLS more people than guns, and I will give up my guns.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/21/18


Jesus apparently advocated being armed.

Luk 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Only in oppressive police states is it illegal for the citizenry to bear arms. The US is not yet that oppressive, but it would be if the leftists had their way.


---jerry6593 on 9/21/18


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"It depends what they are carrying it for." The excuse will be self defense. However the believing follower of Christ is instructed, repeatedly, not to render evil for evil, or to repay a man evil for evil. To "never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God," Yet there is not one verse in scripture that advocates self defense. Why? because not even a bird "falls to the ground apart from your Father's will." As a believer, the implication of that statement is, in my view, that no man dies before his time, and when it is time, nothing will prevent it. For as it is written there is "a time to be born and a time to die." The truth is the Father is man's only true defense against anything.
---joseph on 9/20/18


It depends what they are carrying it for.
---Johnny74 on 9/20/18


I'm not going to judge any person, but as I recall, Jesus said that those who take up the gun shall die by the gun.

Or something like that.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/20/18


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