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Cluny:

You can be in denial, but your own writings says it all = period!
---Melody on 2/3/19


\\but very offensive, demeaning messages and even going as far as accusing me of false doctrines and why\\

You do the same thing to me, Melody.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/3/19


Steven:

Thanks for your message on exposing Cluny lack of Christian Love and respect to others - as from the very beginning has been sending me this not so much as 'childish' but very offensive, demeaning messages and even going as far as accusing me of false doctrines and why? - because himself even thou he mentions THE LORD constantly - by his writings he goes along with heretics teachings and if the soul is divided like that. it wont' accept THE TRUE GOSPEL and will come against it - just as him and others do!
---Melody on 2/2/19


Those here advocating a religion that have made idols of Mary and others - should be reading - the study: "Write them on your doorposts" = Deuteronomy 11: 16 thru 25 - for in this THE LORD clearly warns against idolatry, HIS TERRIBLE JUDGMENT and separation of the souls from HIS PRESENCE at GOD'S Eternal Kingdom!

What many don't realize by accepting that false doctrine is - that when people accept such religion - they become possessed by that wicked idolatrous spirit and even when they hear GOD'S TRUTH about it - they keep ignoring it and giving excuses or forming their own twisted beliefs and in denial: What a terrible spiritual danger to be: Who can be so spiritual blind to ignore and despise GOD'S OWN ADMONITIONS?
---Melody on 2/3/19


cluny: ""Reverend" is an adjective from the Latin. It is not a noun, much less a personal name of God."

Gee, what a scholar! The adjective in question assigns a quality of divinity to the preacher or pope. I think this is blasphemous. Per Webster:

Definition of blasphemy
1a : the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God
accused of blasphemy
1b : the act of claiming the attributes of a deity
for a mere man to suggest that he was divine could only be viewed as blasphemy
John Bright 1889
2 : irreverence toward something considered sacred or inviolable


---jerry6593 on 2/3/19




\\
Many of your comments are childish and unchristian. Is this what they teach you in your denominational orthodox "church?" It appears love in not in your heart.\\

How about your own worldly denominational "church" of Steveng?

Once you accused the Orthodox of using repetitious prayers. I asked you to give the text of one of these prayers, and you did not.

Will you do so now?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/3/19


cluny wrote: "Sticks and stones, Melody. Sticks and stones."

Many of your comments are childish and unchristian. Is this what they teach you in your denominational orthodox "church?" It appears love in not in your heart.
---Steveng on 2/2/19


Sticks and stones, Melody.

Sticks and stones.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/1/19


Cluny:

And your 'god' is not THE LORD but the wicked spirit in you to make such serious accusations on me - and because of your blasphemous words about my Christianity - in THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS you be rebuked and find out in THE TRUE GOSPEL - what HE does to souls like you that are enticed by 'the liar/the enemy' to come against Christians like me - repentance you don't have and before GOD your wickedness is and as such: THE LORD'S JUDGMENT on you as under HIS SOVEIGNITY will do - it's will be time for your to repent!
---Melody on 1/31/19


\\it's my own words that THE LORD inspired on me to give glory to HIS NAME!\\

God told me to tell you that you're listening to an impostor.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/31/19




Cluny:

You need to recognize your constant wrong assumptions on finding fault in what others share - no . . . and not claiming it is - it's my own words that THE LORD inspired on me to give glory to HIS NAME!
---Melody on 1/30/19


\\"Make a new song unto THE LORD from your heart, for HE only deserves all our worship, praises, honors and glories - now and forever" . . . Melody\\

Is this another one of your homemade Bible verses, Melody?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/30/19


\\hat anyone - Catholic or Protestant - should assign divinity to any mortal person. Such assignment is, I believe, blasphemy.\\

"Reverend" is an adjective from the Latin. It is not a noun, much less a personal name of God.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/30/19


Jerry:

Amen for your words of truth, only our LORD deserves words of reverence as THE TRUE GOD THAT HE IS and our SAVIOR/MEDIATOR and the soon coming KING of kings!

"Make a new song unto THE LORD from your heart, for HE only deserves all our worship, praises, honors and glories - now and forever" . . . Melody
---Melody on 1/30/19


\\It's up to the other person to research the issue like the Bereans did to see if what was said is the truth.\\

I have, and you don't.

I could tell from the first that you were merely channelling a religious spirit, Melody.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/30/19


Nicole: You had said somewhere (I haven't had time lately to get to CN) that Protestants calling their pastors "Reverend" is wrong.
I agree! I don't think that anyone - Catholic or Protestant - should assign divinity to any mortal person. Such assignment is, I believe, blasphemy.
I personally don't think that I need a mediator between myself and Jesus Christ, as the Bible says:

Heb 4:14,16 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. ... Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, ...

1Ti 2:5 For there is ONE God, and ONE mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,

---jerry6593 on 1/30/19


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Melody:

Stop accusing me of "volutary avoidance of accepting GOD'S WORD" until you can ACTUALLY SHOW which parts of God's Word I don't accept. I have kept asking you to substantiate your baseless accusations, yet you repeatedly refuse to do that. Why is that?

If you want me to "discern where I am wrong", show me SCRIPTURE to show where I am wrong. Whenever Jesus accused the Pharisees of violating God's law, he quoted scripture to them to show them how they were wrong.

John 17:14: Yes, God has given me his word, but you haven't, even after having repeatedly asking you to do so.
---StrongAxe on 1/29/19


cluny wrote: "..but actual quotes from the Bible seldom appear in your posts."

As posted previously: Every time someone brings up something straight from the Word of God as a verse, a quote, an allusion, or paraphrased someone debates it. As a verse, people would say "you're taking it out of context." As an allusion or paraphrased, people would say that isn't exactly what the bible says. Jesus even used a quote, an allusion, or paraphrased something from OT scriptures. It's up to the other person to research the issue like the Bereans did to see if what was said is the truth. There is a very good reason for your own research.
---Steveng on 1/29/19


Axe:

Don't get me involved in your own voluntarily avoidance of accepting GOD'S WORD and where you are spiritually . . . Discern where you are wrong on your belief and in order to give honor to GOD'S and away of defending false doctrines that you know you do - if you persist on that - you'll keep on finding fault and against those who share The True Gospel of Salvation, but the worse it is - you won't get that total commitment that THE LORD desires to bless you with!

John 17: 14: Please read it - unless the sinner has been Born Again - he wouldn't be able to discern GOD'S WORD!
---Melody on 1/29/19


\\THE LORD knows my heart and HE knows why I share GOD'S WORD as it is - to me that is what I value!\\

Melody, you're always claiming to share God's word, but actual quotes from the Bible seldom appear in your posts.

Why is that?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/28/19


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\\You can repeatedly say your 'glory to JESUS' - but if your heart is not with HIS TRUTH and that is by being faithful to HIS WORD AND ADMONITIONS, you are voluntarily denying GOD'S BLESSINGS upon your life - for spiritually divided we can't be! \\

Melody, please give the precise scripture, with book, chapter, and verse, where I am not being faithful to God's Word.

(BTW, are you actually claiming to be God's mouthpiece and closest counsellor?)

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/28/19


Cluny:

Your insulting words show where you are, and let THE LORD be THE JUDGE of our every word, for it's clear that it annoys you that I not only standing up for GOD'S WORD, but exposing what it's aberrant and abominable to HIM and that you have been advocating here from the very beginning!

THE LORD knows my heart and HE knows why I share GOD'S WORD as it is - to me that is what I value!

You can repeatedly say your 'glory to JESUS' - but if your heart is not with HIS TRUTH and that is by being faithful to HIS WORD AND ADMONITIONS, you are voluntarily denying GOD'S BLESSINGS upon your life - for spiritually divided we can't be!
---Melody on 1/28/19


StrongAxe, Melody seems to be harboring the notion that she is God's mouthpiece and most trusted counsellor.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/28/19


Melody:

I am not offended by truth, but so far, I haven't heard any. Every time I ask you to say which part of the Word of God I offended, instead of doing so, you just make more vague accusations. Yes, the Lord is the Judge, but you aren't. He didn't appoint you my judge or anyone else's. In fact, he told us all not to judge one another.

If you think people offend the Word, show EXACTLY which parts they ACTUALLY offended. Quote chapter and verse. Only then can the accusations be properly answered. Whenever Jesus accused the Pharisees, he quoted scripture to prove his point.

The complaint to Laodicea was about being lukewarm, which doesn't seem to have anything to do with what you are accusing Nicole of.
---StrongAxe on 1/26/19


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Axe:
If it offends you and anger against me for sharing THE TRUTH - it's your own problem - THE LORD be THE JUDGE! . . . I'm not going to ignore what she and others say here twisting GOD'S WORD by their own accepted and conceived idolatrous religions that blaspheme and offend directly THE LORD'S Sanctity - putting those who have rebelled against GOD thru the centuries by the teaching of their 'from the darkness doctrines' - on the same level as THE LORD HIMSELF and openly by their own words - if you are for defending them - your choice - we all be responding before HIM in accordance to where our spiritual hearts are now and into the great forever!
---Melody on 1/25/19


"All things shall pass away, but not MY WORD - says THE LORD". .

And GOD'S OWN WORDS against that idolatrous Laodicea of the ancient times - it wasn't only for those then under that idolatrous living, but for the now and forever - those who openly and ignoring GOD'S ADMONITIONS against idolatry - they are under the same judgment: No man on this earth by their own confessing deceitful words or attacks against THE TRUE GOSPEL OF SALVATION - can change that - for in fact what they do it's displaying their own sacrilegious and spiritual rebellion against the living GOD and choosing judgment for that: "Better open rebuke, than 'hidden love" says THE LORD - and in that some might avoid eternal perdition!
---Melody on 1/25/19


Axe:
Open up your spiritual eyes and see: No one that has been teaching adulterous/idolatrous religion to the multitudes and putting them under separation from THE LIVING GOD - could ever be a 'vicar' of THE LORD or whatever you should call them - THE LORD said it and accept it - these are HIS OWN WORDS: "Those who worship idols cannot enter GOD'S KINGDOM" - and a blasphemy against THE LORD for someone to openly say that those that already are under judgment in eternity because of that and now in the present for such spiritual transgression against GOD'S SUBLIME HOLINESS - that they could be instruments in THE LORD'S HAND - a deceitful lie from the depth of darkness!
---Melody on 1/25/19


Strongaxe wrote: "We keep asking you to tell us, from God's Word, exactly what it is that you think we are doing wrong,.."

Every time someone brings up something straight from the Word of God as a verse, a quote, an allusion, or paraphrased someone debates it. As a verse, people would say "you're taking it out of context." As an allusion or paraphrased, people would say that isn't exactly what the bible says. Jesus even used a quote, an allusion, or paraphrased something from OT scriptures. It's up to the other person to research the issue like the Bereans did to see if what was said is the truth. There is a very good reason for your own research.
---Steveng on 1/25/19


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Steven:

My appreciation for you standing up for THE ONLY TRUE GOD-THE LORD and HIS WORD . . . for those in darkness need to know and hear THE TRUTH - before their time is over - sad to say it as THE LORD HIMSELF has said it: Many became reprobates and decided to stay under the possession of the darkness and in that their own separation from GOD and under eternal damnation and how terrible that multitudes are under that because of this diabolic teachings . . . THE LORD have mercy on those whom might repent after hearing THE TRUTH!
---Melody on 1/25/19


GOD'S TRUTH always victorious is against the ravages of hell itself!

Nicole against GODS HOLINESS your own words: "Again, he only infallible in faith and morals and he has to state so all the time". Is the vicar of CHRIST (what a blasphemy) the term 'vicar' comes from the Latin world 'vicarious' which means "instead of" - in the cc "the vicar of CHRIST" implies - that he has the same power and authority that CHRIST has over the church".

Listen to what THE LORD is admonishing you and others if you don't repent: "I know thy works, that you are neither cold or hot, so then because your are lukewarm, I will spew you out of my mouth. Revelation 3:15,16
---Melody on 1/25/19


Melody:

It is extremely presumptuous to re-direct Jesus's message to Laodicea at Nicole. Saying "The Lord admonishes those who don't repent..." is quoting scripture. Saying "The Lord admonishes YOU and those who don't repent..." is making an accusation, and presumes to say God himself makes that accusation.

Putting words into God's mouth is VERY dangerous. Old Testament prophets who said "Thus saith the Lord" with words God didn't actually tell them, were stoned to death.

Also, "vicar" is like "vice-president", "lieutenant", etc. - one who temporarily substitutes for a superior when that superior is not available. He does not replace the superior, merely fills in.
---StrongAxe on 1/25/19


Melody:

You wrote: not the one that they believe on that has been adulterated to add and remove from the original Scriptures

We keep asking you to tell us, from God's Word, exactly what it is that you think we are doing wrong, yet you never do so. You believe we "adulterate to add and remove from the original Scriptures", yet you never tell us just WHAT, specifically, it is that we have supposedly adulterated, added, or removed.


mike:

The FIRST paragraph from your Wikipedia article says the Pope is infallible WHEN defining doctrine - just like Old Testament prophets only had to be infallible when they said "Thus saith the LORD".
---StrongAxe on 1/25/19


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GOD'S TRUTH always victorious is against the ravages of hell itself!

Nicole against GODS HOLINESS your own words: "Again, he only infallible in faith and morals and he has to state so all the time". Is the vicar of CHRIST (what a blasphemy) the term 'vicar' comes from the Latin world 'vicarious' which means "instead of" - in the cc "the vicar of CHRIST" implies - that he has the same power and authority that CHRIST has over the church".

Listen to what THE LORD is admonishing you and others if you don't repent: "I know thy works, that you are neither cold or hot, so then because your are lukewarm, I will spew you out of my mouth. Revelation 3:15,16
---Melody on 1/25/19


Nicole wrote: "**The term "vicar" comes from the Latin word vicarius, which means "instead of." In the Catholic Church, the vicar is the representative of a higher-ranking official,.."

So, are you saying that the pope is the christ "instead of" the true Christ? Are you saying the the pope is the Father instead of the true God? Can the pope heal and perform miracles? The pope is nothing more than a figurehead of a corporation much like a ceo. He presides over buildings that are made from man's hands, continues to pray to dead people, continues to worship Mary, continues to have statues instead of destroying them, etc.
---Steveng on 1/25/19


Nicole and others, that instead of reverencing THE LORD JESUS CHRIST - THE LORD GOD that descended from Heaven and became MAN to die for our sins - and that in spite of you listening to HIS WORD AND ADMONITIONS constantly - you are so possessed by a false/from the darkness religion spirit - that you have decided to choose to openly offend and blaspheme GOD'S DIETITY on your own words by your placing on the same level, those who from the very beginning have adulterated Christianity into something that GOD despises and as HE calls 'harlotry' - the worshipping of idols - your own words are getting you into greatest JUDGMENT - repent while you have time to do so!
---Melody on 1/25/19


Mike, please stop taking this personally.

//the pope claimed to be holy father, his holiness,//

The title is said to him. He doesn't say it to himself. He doesn't say 'my name is Holiness Pope Frances.'

It isn't no different from Protestant Pastors being called 'Reverend'.

They call themselves 'Reverend'.

So who thinks they are holy?

AGAIN! He is ONLY INFALLIBLE in faith and morals. And he has to state so at the time.

He isn't infallible every moment.

Only 2 as in TWO Popes declared infallibly or ex cathedra (from the Chair of Peter): Pius IX in 1854 and Pope Pius XII in 1950.

//papal infallibility is in wikipedia.//

What?

Vatican.VA or CCC are better source.
---Nicole_Lacey on 1/24/19


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Mike:

Nicole and others here (in spite of those who truly had shared GOD'S WORD with them through time - not the one that they believe on that has been adulterated to add and remove from the original Scriptures) they don't want to recognize the terrible judgment where they are promoting those things that THE LORD sees as abominable as it is a religion that has been adulterating The Gospel with their wickedness of uplifting idolatry and openly putting on high the very ones that have been in charge of deluding the souls into perdition and what
Revelation talks about!
---Melody on 1/25/19


nicole - again you are a liar. the pope claimed to be holy father, his holiness, infalliable.

papal infallibility is in wikipedia.

the pope is of so great dignitty & so exalted that he is NOT a mere man, but as it were God & the vicar of God

NICOLE - STOP SPREADING YOUR LIES.
---mike on 1/24/19


Mike, The Pope is the Vicar of Christ.

**The term "vicar" comes from the Latin word vicarius, which means "instead of." In the Catholic Church, the vicar is the representative of a higher-ranking official, with all of the same authority and power that that official has. Calling the pope the "Vicar of Christ" implies that he has the same power and authority that Christ had over the church. The title is derived from Jesus' words in John 21:16-17 to Peter, "Feed my lambs ..Take care of my sheep." by Got Questions

Just as Joseph in the OT was the Vicar for Pharaoh

Genesis 41:44 Then Pharaoh said to Joseph, I am Pharaoh, but WITHOUT your WORD NO ONE will LIFT HAND or FOOT in ALL Egypt.
---Nicole_Lacey on 1/24/19


strongaxe
so what is this stated in the catechism of the catholic church

#882 For the Roman Pontiff, by reason of his office as Vicar of Christ, & as pastor of the entire Church has full, supreme, and universal power over the whole Church, a power which he can always exercise unhindered.
---mike on 1/24/19


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mike:

"Vicarius filii dei" was never an official title of the Pope. The Pope NEVER claims to be another Christ. Your numerology just counts Latin letter-digits and discards the rest, and ignores rules of Latin number formation. Romans would NEVER count it that way.


Steveng:

I did. I was a stereotypical right-wing Evangelical for 25 years, and finally my eyes were opened when I saw the toxic effects of drinking that much kool-aid. I permitted myself to ask Questions One Dare Not Ask.

Reading YOUR posts, I would say the same - you constantl accuse people, especially everyone in "denominational churches". I suggest YOU read your bible from cover to cover to find out who "the accuser" is.
---StrongAxe on 1/24/19


\\
By reading many of your posts, it seems you have a worldly knowledge of its understanding. \\

Just like you and your worldly denominational "church," Steveng.

Melody, very seldom do you quote the Bible on these blogs.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/24/19


when you add VICARIUS FILII DEI equals 666. pope claims to be another christ. that is why he is the antichrist
---mike on 1/24/19


Strongaxe wrote: "I have read the entire Bible through several times."

By reading many of your posts, it seems you have a worldly knowledge of its understanding. Try reading it one more time through the eyes of a child, not an educated adult. Read it with your heart, not your mind.

And I say the same thing with many on these blogs.
---Steveng on 1/24/19


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Steveng:

You wrote: She is implying that you should search the scriptures yourself to see if she is telling the truth just as the Bereans did. If she quoted a verse, your would just think it was taken out of context just like many do on these blogs.

I have read the entire Bible through several times. She obviously thinks I'm mistaken about some part of it somehow, but without any clue as to just WHAT she thinks I'm mistaken about, what does she expect me to do, search the entire haystack from end to end to find the needle she supposes I missed?

Saying "the evidence is out there somewhere - it's up to the accused to find it" is not how making accusations works.
---StrongAxe on 1/24/19


Cluny you said: "Where did you get the notion that you were posting the truth of The Gospel here?
My answer to you:

Because I have been sharing it directly from GOD'S WORD - THE TRUE GOSPEL OF SALVATION - and something that you are not willing to accept - because spiritually divided you are and you wouldn't admit it - even before THE LORD HIMSELF - that you mention being following for many years - that's the reason of your 'insane' answers, offensive words and accusations - let THE LORD decide who is right - afraid of that I'm not - because under HIS TRUTH I stand now and forever!
---Melody on 1/24/19


ax: "Nowhere does the Bible refer to Jesus Christ as "the Author and Keeper of the Sabbath day"."

You are becoming tedious. When you begin to acknowledge the proofs I've already given you on your past errors, I'll prove this one for you also.


Glory to Jesus Christ the Author and Keeper of the Sabbath day.
---jerry6593 on 1/24/19


Strongaxe wrote: "...yet you never actually provide scriptural evidence of exactly how that is. Why is that?"

She is implying that you should search the scriptures yourself to see if she is telling the truth just as the Bereans did. If she quoted a verse, your would just think it was taken out of context just like many do on these blogs.
---Steveng on 1/23/19


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Melody, where did you get the notion that you were posting the truth of the Gospel here?

As I have already said, I've been following Jesus for over five decades before I ever heard of you, and He told me to tell you you're listening to an impostor.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/23/19


Melody:

You keep accusing Cluny, and me, and others, of denying the Truth of the Gospel, and exhorting us to be saved, yet you never actually provide scriptural evidence of exactly how that is. Why is that? It an accusation is so easy to make, why is it so difficult for you to prove?

In the Bible, the standard of justice is 2-3 witnesses provide evidence of an accusation. Why are you so willing to make accusations, yet unwilling to provide evidence to back them up?

If you have something against us, please be specific.


jerry6593:

Nowhere does the Bible refer to Jesus Christ as "the Author and Keeper of the Sabbath day".
---StrongAxe on 1/23/19


Cluny:

You don't realize where you are spiritually speaking, for the way you respond to the Truth of The Gospel and for clearly, that all generations has seen of those who are trampling upon it, and by you ignoring it and on top of that your offensive defense on claiming false testimonial against others that THE LORD delivered them in time from their occult religious practices - just as what THE LORD says they are!

Read THE TRUE WORD OF GOD and ask THE LORD to save you and deliver you from your false notion of salvation - for your religiosity seal won't stop you from the separation of THE TRUE GOD and what you openly defends contrary to THE LORD: "For what relationship is GOD with the idols?" - none!
---Melody on 1/23/19


'GOD'S WORD IT IS NOW AND FOREVERMORE - and those who despise IT - following after 'other gods'/abominable doctrines of idols/images - created by those possessed by the darkness that rebels against GOD'S SANCTITY - they voluntarily are being chained to the final destruction with those who chose the lies of the 'enemy' instead of GOD'S TRUTH that only is and will be forever in THE LORD JESUS CHRIST!

Revelation, 14 thru 21 - Read it and take it at heart right now if you really care about your soul and eternal life in THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD!
---Melody on 1/23/19


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\\The Roman Catholic church murdered millions of people. Including many Roman Catholics. \\

Protestants, such as Elizabeth I, did the same thing to Roman Catholics when they got the chance.

Luther believed it was licit to kill Anabaptists.

\\The leaders live in luxury and proclaimed themselves god on earth. \\

Can you give a specific example of this: name of the leader, year this happened, and where, Samuel?

I thought you had more sense than to be a duckspeaker.

What next: 4 legs good, 2 legs bad?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/23/19


Babylon 'the harlot' is joined with the 'beast' into the perdition of multitudes as GOD'S WORD says it and many hear the warning - but reprobate they are to follow into the destruction and judgment that awaits those that despised GOD'S HOLINESS for what's abominable before GOD'S DEITY AND HOLINESS!

Revelation 14: 8 "And there followed another angel, saying: Babylon is fallen, is fallen, the great city, because she made all nations, drink of the wine of the wrath se of her fornication".

Revelation 17:5,6 "And upon her forehead was a name written: Mystery, Babylon the great, the mother of harlots and abominations of the earth". And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints".
---Melody on 1/23/19


cluny: You are such an apologist for the Catholic Church.



Glory to Jesus Christ the Author and Keeper of the Sabbath day.


---jerry6593 on 1/23/19


ax: "Also, your (church) interpolation is your personal religious prejudice, not in scripture."

Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate woman.


"The same with your second example of blasphemy."

Mar 2:7 Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?

Will you ever admit your mistakes?



Glory to Jesus Christ the Author and Keeper of the Sabbath day.



---jerry6593 on 1/23/19


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Here are the seven hills of Jerusalem Samuel.

Jerusalem's seven hills are Mount Scopus, Mount Olivet and the Mount of Corruption, Mount Ophel, the original Mount Zion, the New Mount Zion and the hill on which the Antonia Fortress was built.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/22/19


Samuelbb7:

You wrote: The leaders live in luxury and proclaimed themselves god on earth.

Just when and where did this happen? I have never heard of it.

Also, to those who decry the genocides of religions (and it doesn't matter if it's Catholics, Muslims, or anyone else), one can say "Religions have killed their millions, and atheists their tens of millions" (e.g. various communist purges by Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc.).
---StrongAxe on 1/21/19


Jerusalem is mostly or was mostly on one hill.

The Roman Catholic church murdered millions of people. Including many Roman Catholics. The leaders live in luxury and proclaimed themselves god on earth.

So the number does not matter as much as their actions did.
---Samuelbb7 on 1/21/19


But is the harlot in the NT said to be a Nation? I don't see that it does.

Possibly a principality where Satan sits.....he sits over the whole world.
---kathr4453 on 1/21/19


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Cluny:

From Wikipedia article "Seven hills of Rome":
The Vatican Hill (Latin Collis Vaticanus) lying northwest of the Tiber, the Pincian Hill (Latin Mons Pincius), lying to the north, and the Janiculum Hill (Latin Ianiculum), lying to the west, are not counted among the traditional Seven Hills.

San Francisco also rests on seven hills, as do many other places.


jerry6593:

The Red Woman rides the beast. She is not the Beast. Also, your (church) interpolation is your personal religious prejudice, not in scripture. The same with your second example of blasphemy.


David:

ISIS members chop off infidels' heads without being kings.
---StrongAxe on 1/21/19


As I've pointed out before, there is only ONE nation in the Bible personified as a harlot, and it's not Rome.

Furthermore, Jerusalem--and Mecca, for that matter--sit on seven hills.

Rome, however, sits on 10.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/21/19


The Beast:

Is both a woman (church) and a city.

Has it's seat on seven mountains.

Arises from among the 10 nations after the fall of pagan Rome, and as a "little horn," it roots up 3 of the 10.

Is diverse from the other powers - as iron and clay are unmixable.

Has the eyes of a man and a name which may be counted to total 666.

Speaks blasphemy - two examples of which are given by the Bible as (1) claiming to be God and (2) claiming the power to forgive sins against God.

Persecuted the saints of God for 1260 years (42 months or 3 1/2 times).

Thinks to change times and laws.

Suffered a deadly wound that was healed.

And all the world wonders after the Beast.
---jerry6593 on 1/21/19


The number is cumulative of the whole fallen world with all its fallen humans and human governments.

Those IN CHRIST are no longer part of this world, as we are crucified to the world, dead to the world, dead to our old Adam 1.... Where heaven is our home, Colossians 3:1-4, As opposed to those still in the world, Philipians 4 say are enemies of the cross....who Thesselonians states those who have disobeyed the Gospel will be deceived by this Christ wanna be. Actually many who claim to be saved will be deceived ..those who believe in kingdom now theology, dominion theology etc.
---kathr4453 on 1/19/19


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The number represents the stature of the Antichrist, he will hold on Earth. The number of man, his authority, multiplied by three.

One six is the number of Man.
Two sixes is the number of a man who is king.
Three sixes is the number of a man, who is a King of Kings.

For Example:
I am a 6.
A president, or a King of a country, would be a 66.
The one who rules.... over the whole world, he will be the one and only, 666.

How can you know what I say is true? Who else could have enough authority to Lop off your head, if you dont get his Mark?
---David on 1/19/19


Oh and Cluny, you don't have to be an Einstein to know that either. You don't even have to have perfect spelling. Ha! Have a nice day. That truth comes through the Holy Spirit who doesn't rely on your so called human intellect. Thank goodness Peter was an unlearned man. God chooses the base Cluny, to show folks like yourself how much God hates self serving pride.
---kathr4453 on 1/19/19


Cluny, calculate can also mean consider. One clue is it is a number...the number of man. Man was created on the 6th day. That's also written in Hebrew. The New Creature IN CHRIST is no longer a 6, but a 7.

That kind of calculating. Not some numerology junk.
---kathr4453 on 1/18/19


Since Revelation was written in Greek, just what alphabet are we supposed to use to calculate the 666, kathr?

BTW, those who know about such things say that Revelation is the most ungrammatical Greek in the NT.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/17/19


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For what it's worth,, the Greek letters of Iisous Xristos add up to 888.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/16/19

What does that have to do with anything? Nowhere are we asked to calcalute and add up any Greek letters .
---kathr4453 on 1/17/19


For what it's worth,, the Greek letters of Iisous Xristos add up to 888.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/16/19


Revelation 13:18 "Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man, and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

This scripture says "it is the number of a man"
---KarenD on 1/16/19


666 the total of man without Christ who is a 777. 7 meaning PERFECT. All those in Christ are 777 will be raptured leaving all the 666's with Satan as their god to come to nothing.

Just another way of looking at it.
---kathr4453 on 1/16/19


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Steve: No, 666 is the number of a man. A beast is a power in Scripture. So look for a religious or political power with a single man at its head. The MARK of the beast is the sign or symbol of his authority, just as the Sabbath Day is the sign of the Creator's authority.



Monk: Be nice.



---jerry6593 on 1/16/19


Yes. 666 is the reckoning, G706 arithms or calculated time of the beast deception. From the root G142 airo "to raise, to take up, to sail away". The deception of the beast will be that it is time for the church to be rapture, or the time of catching away has come. This will occur at the 6 vial, 6 seal, and 6 trump, which are concurrent. That deception will be the destruction of the deceived.
---joseph on 1/16/19


Steven, when did you stop taking your medication?
---Monk_Brendan on 1/15/19


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