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Are Eastern and Western religions a threat to each other's Civilization?

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ax: You continue to defend Muslims as a perfectly acceptable religious denomination, with only a few "radicalized" bad actors. You could not be more wrong. 100% of Muslims base their religion, as well as their day-to-day lives on the writings of the vile Muhammad. The Koran urges the murder, rape and pillaging of ALL infidels who will not convert to Islam or accept slavery. You and I are among those infidels. Why would you defend such barbarism against US?



---jerry6593 on 2/13/19


StrongAxe: 30% of polled Republicans were FOR bombing Agrabah - a Muslim city - that didn't even exist! (so it was based on 100% prejudice and 0% facts). Google it.//

I did and you left out that 19% of Democrats voted the same.

So are Democrats prejudice as well with 0% facts?

Remember when I told you WHY I hated the Democrat party?

Now, do you believe me?

I am NOT shocked about the prejudice in the Party.

I am SHOCKED that NOW they are opened about killing babies that escaped abortion procedures.

Thank God for the Republicans in Virginia that STOPPED the infanticide bill.

Unfortunately Washington Democrat Patty Murray STOPPED Republicans Sasses infanticide ban across America.

Why?
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/11/19


StrongAxe: There have been over 300 mass shootings in the U.S. in 2018. Not a single one was committed by a black, BLM, Antifa, Mexican, Muslim, or illegal immigrant. ALL were committed by white American citizens.//

WRONG! You got that static from 'Gun Violence Archive'.

Most if not 99.9% of those so called 'mass shootings' are domestic matters.

Are you claiming Blacks, BLM, Antifa, Mexican, Muslim, or illegal immigrant do NOT have domestic disputes?

BTW, you do not call Hispanic looking people 'Mexicans'.

Just because everyone calls Hispanics 'Mexicans' doesn't mean we don't like the substitute name.

Ask any Central American.

They will tell you it irritates them when they are called Mexicans.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/10/19


jerry6593:

You wrote: Where's the acknowledgement for these?

In my posts, if you care to read what I actually write, instead of only what you want to see.

Jer 6:2

I don't see "church" mentioned anywhere in this verse, and especially no reference to the woman in scarlet being a church.

Mar 2:7

Saying how God deals with blasphemy does not in any way prove something someone says is actually blasphemy. In a courtroom, the prosecutor says "John stabbed Tom", not "murder is punishable by death".

SLANDER! I have **NEVER** defended Muslim barbarism against ANYONE!
---StrongAxe on 1/30/19


Nicole_Lacey:

And how many Muslims do that? Maybe 1 in 7000, meaning 99.98% of Muslims are NOT like that.

There have been over 300 mass shootings in the U.S. in 2018. Not a single one was committed by a black, BLM, Antifa, Mexican, Muslim, or illegal immigrant. ALL were committed by white American citizens.

They force their beliefs unto that Civilization.

Remember Crusades? Conquistadores? Forced Christianization of American Indians? One could say the same about Christianity.

That's a lie and you know it. ... But to kill them? NO.

YES! 30% of polled Republicans were FOR bombing Agrabah - a Muslim city - that didn't even exist! (so it was based on 100% prejudice and 0% facts). Google it.
---StrongAxe on 1/30/19




ax: "When people ACTUALLY prove me wrong, I acknowledge it (read my old posts)."

Where's the acknowledgement for these?

"Also, your (church) interpolation is your personal religious prejudice, not in scripture."

Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate woman.


"The same with your second example of blasphemy."

Mar 2:7 Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?

Will you ever admit your mistakes?

And yes, you are a Canadian leftist, and a defender of anti-American Muslim barbarism.



Glory to Jesus Christ the Author and Keeper of the Sabbath day.
---jerry6593 on 1/30/19


StrongAxe: So what? Not all Muslims live in Muslim countries.//

There lies Jerry's question!

We have come full circle!

If Muslims bring their deadly behavior and beliefs to other Civilizations who do NOT agree with them they don't just live and let live.

They force their beliefs unto that Civilization.

Deadly force

//If you take a poll in the U.S., you will find Large Support for killing Muslims.//

That's a lie and you know it.

No one and I mean no one even said those words.

A few and I mean a few might have said they want Muslims to go home.

But to kill them? NO.

You are mistaken American Muslims asking for the DEATH of Jewish people.
---Nicole_Lacey on 1/29/19


Nicole_Lacey:

So what? Not all Muslims live in Muslim countries. If you take a poll in the U.S., you will find Large Support for killing Muslims. This is the pot calling the kettle black.

In 2015, someone conducted a poll of Republicans about whether they were in favor of bombing Agrabah. 30% were in favor, 57% were not sure, and only 13% disapproved.

Think about this. Almost 1/3 of Republicans polled were in favor of bombing a Muslim city.

To add insult to injury, this choice was 100% based on prejudice and 0% on fact, because Agrabah is not even a real city at all - it's the fictitious city in Alladin, loosely based on Baghdad. 1/3 of Republicans were in favor of bombing a city they had never even heard of!!
---StrongAxe on 1/29/19


StrongAxe, 'New Poll of Muslim Countries Finds Large Support for Terrorists' By Meira Svirsky

Which means they don't want to die to harm us, but don't mind if someone us did it for them.

BTW, according to your math that means we have 500 in our own Country.

We are NOT putting Terrorists tags on certain people.

We are saying their religion has a HIGH percentage of Terrorism.

The Truth is the Truth.

Closing your eyes isn't helping. It's deadly.

BTW, we bombed Iraq because their Leader CLAIMED he had chemical weapons.

You FORGOT he used them on his OWN citizens in northern Irag.

Plus, you forgot the Majority of DEMOCRATS SUPPORTED bombing Iraq.

They gave Bush PERMISSION.
---Nicole_Lacey on 1/29/19


jerry6593:

You wrote: When will you ever start answering the questions that are asked of you?

As soon as you actually ask a question, instead of making an accusation.

when they prove you wrong, you never acknowledge your error.

When people ACTUALLY prove me wrong, I acknowledge it (read my old posts). Many people THINK they prove me wrong, but don't. My "slander" comment was about your: Nicole: Remember that the axster is a leftist Canadian, so he's not likely to know or care about Americans being murdered by Muslims. which you made with NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER.

Are all leftists so disingenuous?

Are all rightists (see your accusation above)?
---StrongAxe on 1/26/19




Steveng:

You wrote: Why? They go to a "church" building made with man's hands.

Do you live in a house made with human hands? Or do you reject that and live in a cave?

They attend their sunday services having rituals and traditions made with mans hands.

So what? Traditions are only condemned *IF* they go against the Word of God. Most denomination traditions are superficial fluff, not matters of core Christian doctrine.

Don't YOU teach according to YOUR interpretation of scripture? How do YOU spend your donations?
---StrongAxe on 1/26/19


ax: Stop your SLANDER! You are CONSTANTLY making up totally fabricated lies about people, and then condemning them on the basis of those lies. Stop. Just STOP!

When will you ever start answering the questions that are asked of you? You say that someone is lying, and when they prove you wrong, you never acknowledge your error. Are all leftists so disingenuous? If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.



---jerry6593 on 1/26/19


Strongaxe wrote: "...it's wrong to categorize ALL (or even MOST) people in denominational churches this way."

Why? They go to a "church" building made with man's hands. They attend their sunday services having rituals and traditions made with mans hands. They teach the denomination's sermons according the the denomination's interpretation of the bible. They are told by governments what to preach and what not to preach. Denominational "churches" will jump through hoops to keep their non-profit status. Denominational "churches" spend more than 85% of their donations to maintain their "church" buildings and paper assets.
---Steveng on 1/25/19


jerry6593:

Stop your SLANDER! You are CONSTANTLY making up totally fabricated lies about people, and then condemning them on the basis of those lies. Stop. Just STOP!

I have lived more than half my life in the United States, so what happens here is very much my concern. I don't like people being murdered by anyone, regardless of who the murderer is, and regardless of who the victim is.

Yes, Islam may be defective, but if you ask most Muslims in the street what they think of theft, rape, murder, etc. most of them are against it. Have you ever personally talked to Muslims, instead of just condemning all of them as a group? If not, what makes you fit to judge them?
---StrongAxe on 1/25/19


Steveng:

Yes, and that is very sad, and people who do that will eventually need to answer for their attitudes. However, it's wrong to categorize ALL (or even MOST) people in denominational churches this way.


Nicole_Lacey:

I have heard it said that 1 in 7000 Muslims are terrorists. This means that 99.98% of them are not. Do we (and should we) judge a large group of people by the actions of a tiny fraction of them?

If Saudi terrorists blow up the WTC, and Americans bomb Iraqis who weren't involved, those innocent Iraqi victims' families have a right to be angry.
---StrongAxe on 1/25/19


Nicole: Remember that the axster is a leftist Canadian, so he's not likely to know or care about Americans being murdered by Muslims.

The problem with Islam is not a few radicalized, mentally disturbed bad apples. No. The problem with Muslims is their defective religion. The Koran is the result of one man - a murderous, rapist, thieving pedophile named Mohammad. It teaches that the evil of theft, rape murder, etc. in the name of allah is rewarded with more of the same in the hereafter. It is the most barbaric of all religions, and a real threat to civilized peoples everywhere.

Allah and Jehovah are not the same.



---jerry6593 on 1/25/19


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StrongAxe wrote: "...most of which are petty inconsequential things...)

You may think it's inconsequential, but there are many members of one "church" that would rather die than set foot in a "church" of another denomination. I've met quite a few of them while traveling throughout North America in the late 1970s.
---Steveng on 1/24/19


StrongAxe: than we would want the world to judge Christianity by Branch Davidians or Westboro Baptists (that most Christians repudiate).//

If there were millions of Christians acting like Westboro Baptists I would understand.

Unlike the majority of Muslims we criticize our own bad Christians.

Modern Muslims are too afraid to speak against the extremists because even they know they could get killed.

More Muslims are killed by ISIS than Christians.

At least Jerry and I care about Muslims enough to speak out against ISIS.

Silent isn't the answer.

Muslims are dying because of people like you are in denial.
---Jesus_I_trust_in_you.Nicole_Lacey on 1/24/19


StrongAxe: We shouldn't judge all Islam by ISIS (that most Muslims repudiate)//

Who judging ALL Muslims?

Just because most Muslims don't behave like ISIS it doesn't mean there ISN'T Muslims who are ISIS NOT TRYING to take over the whole world.

Not ALL Japaneses supported their King attacking us.

But we STILL call WAR on the Japan.

//if American planes bombed your village killing most of your family, you would have good reason to scream "death to America!"//

WHAT?

They can CONDEMN all Americans to death, but when MUSLIMS kills 3000 Americans we CAN'T criticize Muslims?

Only UNDERSTAND them?

Remember who started the killing?

You know 911 did happen in your life time
---Nicole_Lacey on 1/24/19


Steveng:

Why do you constantly look at what divides all the denominations of Christ (most of which are petty inconsequential things), instead of what unites them (the core doctrines taught by Jesus, Paul, and others)?

You're like the woman who took her son to the beach, and a huge wave took him and swept him out to sea. The mother was frantic, and she got on her knees and prayed to God to return her son. Suddenly, another huge wave swept over and deposited her son unharmed on the beach. She then hugged her son, and looked towards heaven and...

... yelled angrily, "HE HAD A HAT!!"
---StrongAxe on 1/24/19


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Strongaxe wrote: "You constantly divide Christ yourself by condemning all Christians who are members of denominational churches."

Didn't Paul do the same thing? Wasn't he trying to bring unity to their thought?

Didn't John write about the seven churches? (as a side note: the "churches" in Revelation were not "churches" as we know them today. They were simply "locations" of the church of Christ)

Where is the unity among all the 75,000 denominations in today's world each having their own man-made buildings, man-made denominaitons, man-made rituals, man-made traditions, man-made ways of living and man's interpretations of the Word of God?
---Steveng on 1/24/19


jerry6598 and Nicole_Lacey:

We shouldn't judge all Islam by ISIS (that most Muslims repudiate) than we would want the world to judge Christianity by Branch Davidians or Westboro Baptists (that most Christians repudiate).

Also, if American planes bombed your village killing most of your family, you would have good reason to scream "death to America!" that has nothing to do with religion.


Steveng:

Is Christ divided? ... Even on these blogs people bicker, slander and call each other names.

Oh, the irony! You constantly divide Christ yourself by condemning all Christians who are members of denominational churches.
---StrongAxe on 1/23/19


Joseph: The only ones with any power to bring death to America, is the president and those who dictate what he does.//

Are you upset because Trump gave Black Men more jobs?

Upset he got many Blacks and Hispanics OFF of food stamps?

Upset he is allowing Black and Hispanics to PLAN their own future?

Upset that Trump opened the Plantation doors and let Black People off the Democratic Plantation?

Upset that he isn't allowing Illegal people to take jobs away from Black People?
---Nicole_Lacey on 1/22/19


The worldly denominational "church" of Steveng is just one more division.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/22/19


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Western religions are a threat to even themselves.

Satan has had over two thousand years to infiltrate and divided christiandom up into over 75,000 different religions each having their own rituals, traditions, ways of living and interpretations of the bible.

Is Christ divided?

Members of each denomination, even within one denomination, bicker among each other. Even on these blogs people bicker, slander and call each other names. Where is the unity? Psalm 133, Ephesians 4

jerry, why do you assume, like many on these blogs, that the moderator is "politically correct?" Could it be that it was a simple misunderstanding?
---Steveng on 1/22/19


The only ones with any power to bring death to America, is the president and those who dictate what he does.
---joseph on 1/22/19


Jerry: The real question involves the threat of the Muslim religion to western civilation. You know, the "death to America" stuff//

Yes, they state so all the time. This one was written in 2014

'The ISIS map of the world: Militants outline chilling five-year plan for global domination as they declare formation of caliphate - and change their name to the Islamic State'- Daily Mail

Even the moderate Muslims are too afraid to stop them.
---Nicole_Lacey on 1/21/19


This is a misstatement prompted, no doubt, by a politically correct moderator. The real question involves the threat of the Muslim religion to western civilation. You know, the "death to America" stuff.


---jerry6598 on 1/20/19


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From GOD'S WORD - the right answer for those willing to accept it and under commitment - live by that!

1st Corinthians 10: 5 thru 9

5 "But with many of them (as it is today) GOD was not well pleased, for they were overthrown in the wilderness. 6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted. 7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them, as is written: The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose to play. 8 Neither commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day, three and twenty thousand. 9 Neither let us tempt CHRIST, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents". -
Christianity is spiritual freedom!
---Melody on 1/20/19


"Are Eastern and Western religions a threat to each other's Civilization?" No.
Why would the eastern method of worship be a "threat" to the western method? Especially as concerning civilizations?
---josef on 1/20/19


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