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What did Jesus teach that today's denominational "churches" don't teach?

What did Jesus teach that today's denominational "christians" don't do?

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nicole - 1st of all you are twisting the truth. 7th day sabbath IS NOT 1st day SUNDAY. 7th day sabbath is what modern people call SATURDAY. God NEVER RESTED on the 1st day (or SUNDAY) after HE created the universe, earth, people. that is why the bible said 'God RESTED on the 7th day (called SATURDAY). know the difference bet. TRUTH & HATE. when the TRUTH that God RESTED 7th day, HIS HOLY DAY (not SUNDAY) it is NOT HATE it is the WORD OF GOD & HE IS TRUTH. RCC is good in twisting the truth saying 1st day SUNDAY is 7th day SABBATH. what a LIE.
---mike on 2/14/19


Mike: Genesis 26:5 - Abraham OBEYED Me & KEPT MY REQUIREMENTS, COMMANDS, DECREES & MY LAWS.//

Thank you.

But, the 10 Commandments was given to Moses.

Given Jesus speaks about the Chair of Moses not the Chair of Abraham. Matthew 23:1-3

Abraham followed the command of leaving his own country, Covenant of Circumcision and willing to sacrifice Issac.

But, I reasoning that the Commands are not part of the Commandments because of the 6th (7) Commandment.

Abraham gave his wife to Abimelech. Only God saved Sarah NOT Abraham. Genesis 20:2-3

I am not saying Abraham didn't worship God.

I believe he worshipped God everyday.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/14/19


Dear Strong Ax. You were kinda of right. But the time period I was speaking of is before Christians existed.

In the days of Moses all who followed GOD. Which included many gentiles kept Sabbath.

In the times of Jesus before his death. There were many Gentiles who referred to by the term God Fearer. They kept Sabbath. They were among the original gentiles to join with the Apostles.
---Samuelbb7 on 2/14/19


Nicole: My beef is not with you, but with Cluny. He stated that there was no sun worship prior to the time of Christ, and I proved him wrong - again.

Other than SDA's and a few other denominations, you Catholics are the only ones honest enough to admit why you keep Sunday holy.

He also claims to be orthodox, while not adhering to the original doctrines of Christ and the Apostles.


---jerry6593 on 2/14/19


Samuelbb7:

You wrote: First in the Fourth Commandment all those who lived in Israel were to keep Sabbath. Which includes strangers. Exodus. 20:10

Yes. However, the vast majority of Christians do not actually live in Israel, so that does not apply to us. We do not live in Israel. We are not "brought to the Holy Mountain". We do not offer burnt offerings and sacrifices there.
---StrongAxe on 2/13/19




Jerry: I've already pointed out, pagan sunrise services existed//

I don't understand your point. Really.

If your point is that Protestant shouldn't have sunrise services because pagans had them first then let me ask you a question.

Pagans prayed to their gods first.

Are Christians not allowed to pray to God because that was the form of communication Pagan spoke to their gods?

//What other Commandments do you Sabbath-haters deny?//

Correction.

We don't hate the Sabbath in fact we worship on the Sabbath every week.

Isn't really you and Mike who HATE the day we CALL the Sabbath to worship God?
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/13/19


nicole - Genesis 26:5 - Abraham OBEYED Me & KEPT MY REQUIREMENTS, COMMANDS, DECREES & MY LAWS.
---mike on 2/13/19


First in the Fourth Commandment all those who lived in Israel were to keep Sabbath. Which includes strangers. Exodus. 20:10

Isaiah 56:6,7 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant, Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar, for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.
---Samuelbb7 on 2/13/19


GOD told Adam. We don't know which laws Abraham was told. But GOD told him his laws.

Genesis 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

Second the Fourth of the Ten Commandments from creation is not the same as the ceremonial sabbaths.

Lastly there is no command to meet on Sunday. So why follow a rule not made?
---Samuelbb7 on 2/13/19


what did Jesus teach that today's denominational 'christians' don't do? today's church do NOT teach SIN because WE ARE NOT UNDER THE LAW is their favorite verse. but when it comes to money or tithing IS SIN - not giving to the church & making the pastor RICH. SIN to have SELF CONFIDENCE.
---mike on 2/13/19




jerry6593:

You wrote: What other Commandments do you Sabbath-haters deny?

Time and time again, on these blogs, various SDA people keep resurrecting the Sabbath question over and over again, despite it having been discussed to death. People who worship on Sunday don't HATE the Sabbath, they merely choose to worship on another day. As Paul said, "Let each be persuaded in his own mind", which THEY are perfectly content to do, but YOU aren't.

The only "hate" I have ever seen on these particular blog topics seems to come from SDA Sabbatarians who self-righteously condemn everybody else who doesn't agree to worship as they do.
---StrongAxe on 2/13/19


jerry, please give BCV where the Sabbath was obligatory on Gentiles.

You've already made it clear that the SDA picks and chooses which sabbaths it observes.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/13/19


Mike, why didn't God tell Abraham to keep the Sabbath day?
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/13/19


cluny: "mike. as I've already pointed out, Protestants invent [sic] sunrise services. The pre-reformation churches have no such custom."


As I've already pointed out, pagan sunrise services existed in Old Testament times.

Eze 8:16 And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD'S house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east, and they WORSHIPPED the SUN toward the EAST.

What other Commandments do you Sabbath-haters deny?


---jerry6593 on 2/13/19


Exodus 31:16 - Wherefore the children of Israel keep the Sabbath, to observe the Sabbath throughout their generations for a perpetual covenant.

( The sabbath was made for Israel , - Not Gentiles : they were not commanded,
I Believe - If they went to the sabbath they were guilty of death, or they had to be circumcised - Right now I couldn't fine the verses to back that up )

Colossians 2:16 - Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or drink, or in the respect of Holyday, or of the new moon or of The sabbath days:
---RichardC on 2/12/19


kathr4453 said, "Here's the thing, it doesn't matter what anyone named the first day after the 7th....call it "Bologna Day" , who cares. EVERY DAY is named after something pagan or whatever. We don't worship the name of the day...good grief!"

Kathr, did you know that in the Russian language, Sunday is called Resurrection? So how can the Russians be worshiping a pagan god? Especially as they were Christians before the KJV was published?
---Monk_Brendan on 2/12/19


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When Jesus spoke in Luke 10:27 I don't think He meant part of the time or only on certain days.

He wanted us to always/daily to Love God which is worship.

Luke 10:27

He answered, Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind and Love your neighbor as yourself.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/11/19


mike:

You wrote: melody - where does it say in the bible you can worship God ANY day?

Where does it say in the Bible you are FORBIDDEN to worship on any day except the Sabbath? Where in the Bible does it say you MUST worship on the Sabbath? I have asked you these questions MANY times, yet you have NEVER answered then even once. Why is that? Perhaps because there are no such scriptures! You're making it all up, and just parroting SDA theology without understand the scriptural basis (or rather, non-basis) for it.
---StrongAxe on 2/11/19


mike, where does the Bible say you may NOT worship God on any day?

In the Temples, there were daily morning and evening sacrifices, and even what I shall call "votive" ones, such as for purification after childbirth.

Traditional Synagogues have twice daily services even today.

If there was such busy liturgizing under the Old Law, is there LESS reason to have it today?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/11/19


melody - where does it say in the bible you can worship God ANY day? Acts 20:7? 1 cor 16:2 rev 1:10? did these verses sanctify, made the 1st day holy or any day holy? NOT
---mike on 2/11/19


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Abraham was told only to circumcise himself for the covenant between God and himself. Genesis 17:21-27

Keeping the Sabbath Holy was an Command given 400 years later.

Yet Abraham was a righteous man in God's eyes Genesis 15:4

The Pharisees used the 3rd (4th) Commandment as a weapon against God's people.

Jesus was angry about that and told them the Sabbath was made for man NOT man for the Sabbath. Mark 2:27

Some on CN are using the Sabbath as a Master to be served instead of a privilege day to be used to Serve God.

BTW, God didn't say not to continue the Covenant of Circumcision.

The Church in ACTS 15 did.

Speaking on behalf of God.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/11/19


Mike:

Why did you ignore Luke 13 and 14 of what THE LORD HIMSELF said about the keeping of days? - as for a Christian Believer - any day is THE LORD'S DAY - and it's acceptable for THE LORD on our worshiping HIM any day of the week and the true meaning is - in commitment and faithfulness through our daily living - as THE LORD said: "You are in the world, but not of the world" - when the person has been Born Again - THE LORD through HIS HOLY SPIRIT - will give us the power to overcome and become separated from the wickedness of this fallen world in which we live!
---Melody on 2/10/19


mike:

You keep saying that 7th day is the Sabbath, but have yet to say exactly what that MEANS. You have yet to cite any verse that COMMANDS worship on the Sabbath or FORBIDS worship on any other day.

I have REPEATEDLY said Jesus did NOT "change" the sabbath to the 1st day, so why do you keep replaying that broken record? By repeatedly asking the same question, and getting the same answer, it means you're not paying attention. Why should anyone ever answer your questions if you just ignore the answers? Why should anyone discuss anything with you when you repeatedly refuse to answer their questions?

I have answered yours, repeatedly. Why do you not answer mine?
---StrongAxe on 2/8/19


strongaxe - 7th day sabbath. you cannot answer if Christ changed HIS HOLY day to 1st day & your favorite verse is 'esteemeth one day over the other'. sabbath is NOT mentioned in romans 14:5. the next verse romans 14:6 -talks about fasting. yes you are a constantinian. you cannot even show a verse that christ on the day he resurrected saying 'we are changing the 7th day to 1st day in honor of my resurrection. NADA, NOTHING.
---mike on 2/8/19


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strongaxe - 'so what?' that means you are justifying disobedience & want to be God. I provided you with TRUTH but you keep on dodging & twisting the scriptures like esteemeth one day over the other or the 7th day points to a CREATOR. but you keep on justifying 1st day is the 'christian sabbath'
---mike on 2/8/19


kath - colossians says - let no one judge you who keep the feast & the sabbath & holy days. Paul did not mean 1st day sunday. christians who are in turkey are being judged bec. the pagans practice ascetism. the pagans are attacking & judging christian who ARE celebrating the Lord's feast & holy sabbath days. Paul NEVER changed the sabbath to 1st day sunday
---mike on 2/8/19


Mike, TODAY we're in a new era AD where Jesus died in our place for our sin. It's you who twist scripture failing to see Romans 6-8 like all LEGALISTS who deny the CROSS, where we died to sin when we died with Christ. Every one of you all deny the work of the CROSS, again explained in Colossians 2....ALSO YOU CALL FOOLISHNESS, because you are lost...unsaved, not born again.

You have INSULTED THE SPIRIT OF GRACE, TRAMPLED UNDER FOOT THE SON OF GOD, AND MADE THE BLOOD OF THE COVENANT something common. Hebrews 10. Today we enter A NEW AND LIVING WAY.

GET WITH THE PROGRAM mike.
---kathr4453 on 2/8/19


"You are correct to state that only a King James Bible with a black cover should be used is in error - it just goes to show you how far away some churches have been deterred from was is important."

dagnabbit! I thought that the scarlet colored cover was canonical as well!
---Monk_Brendan on 2/8/19


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mike:

Yet again, what, EXACTLY does "keep the Sabbath holy" mean? The Bible doesn't say anything about worshiping on the Sabbath, nor forbidding worship on any other day. So why do you keep harping on what day people worship?
---StrongAxe on 2/8/19


today's 'denominational churches DO NOT teach is the importance of the 7th day SABBATH & God RESTED after he finished his work of CREATION - points to a CREATOR ......
---mike on 2/1/19

mike, the seventh day of creation pointed to the finished works of Christ....and this is explained in Hebrews 3-4....FOR THOSE WHO UNDERSTAND. The seventh day is totally explained in Hebrews 3-4. There is not one verse stating it must be kept. It shows TODAY we ENTER HIS REST. Jesus finished the works "from the foundation of the world". We are now COMPLETE IN HIM...those saved

SEVEN actually means PERFECT, COMPLETE. But you need to be Born Again to understand this.

Have you been Born Again?
---kath4453 on 2/8/19


kath - we are NOT UNDER THE LAW of SIN & DEATH. what did God tell Adam - if you eat of the fruit YOU WILL DIE. PAUL said for the wages of SIN IS DEATH - what is sin? transgression of the LAW. lucifer wanted to be God - that is SIN, then man want to be God - that is SIN - transgressing 1, 2, 3, & 4. 2 Peter 3:16 - Paul's writings are hard to understand & many unstable & unlearned will twist it. Christ NEVER abolished HIS LAW but practiced
---mike on 2/8/19


Mike, Colossians says they are a shadow of THINGS TO COME, not things right now. Yes under the 1000 year reign things will go back under a kind of law, a Kingdom law we see in Matthew, but TODAY before that happens we are not under a kingdom law or Moses Law, but under GRACE, showing we are described in Colossians 3:1-4....where our citizenship is ABOVE, not here below.

I pray one day you will grasp this. The Moses law and Kingdom law are EARTHLY, for earthly folks. We are no longer earthly buy heavenly.
---kathr4453 on 2/8/19


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Mike, Did you know every Jew today under the law still practices circumcision. This was what separated Gods people from heathens. It was extremely important. Even when those children went into to take the promise land they could not go further until they were circumcised. Also see Exodus 4:18-31. But TODAY that is not required. If nothing has changed, why has this? It's the exact same concept as the rest of the law. ( no pun intended) all these things are now IN CHRIST. We ENTER His rest, ( we don't keep it, HE KEEPS US) we are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by the circumcision of Christ...again something HE DOES...Colossians 2.

If a Christian Jew can see these truths, why not a gentile? Strange.
---kath4453 on 2/8/19


mike:

So what? What does Adam have to do with us or this conversation?

You keep talking about "disobeying the commandments of God", but I keep asking you just WHAT commandment we are disobeying? The commandment is "Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy". It isn't "Thou shalt worship on the Sabbath", and it isn't "Thou shalt not worship on other days". Why do you keep bringing worship into it at all, as that was NEVER part of the Sabbath commandment in the first place? You keep twisting the word of God by intermixing these two unrelated things.
---StrongAxe on 2/7/19


what did the God tell Adam in the garden? DO NOT eat the fruit of the knowledge of good & evil or you will DIE - the commandments of God
while the serpent said 'YOU WILL BE LIKE God knowing good & evil'. implication? they chose to DISOBEY the commandments of God bec they want to be like God. Adam broke the 10 commandments. even lucifer said that 'I will be like the Most High' disobey & transgress the Law of God by twisting the word of God
---mike on 2/7/19


kath - colossians 2:14-16 are feasts & holy days christians observed & are being judged by the pagans in colossian or present day turkey. that means christians ARE observing the FEASTS of the LORD. they are rehersals & symbols of what will come. feast of tabernacles is a PROPHETIC symbol that christ will restore & rule 1000 years.
---mike on 2/7/19


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mike:

What "COMMANDMENTS OF GOD"? Show me, chapter and verse, where GOD "COMMANDS" us to WORSHIP on the Sabbath, and FORBIDS us to WORSHIP on any other day.

What is required: do no work (Ex 20:8,35:2), death penalty for violation (Ex 35:2, Nu 15:32), light no fire (Ex 35:3) which would also prohibit driving and flipping light switches, carry no burden (Je 17:21-27). Notably absenct in all of these is a requirement to WORSHIP.

OT contains 613 COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, including not eating pork or seafood, not blending fabrics, not shaving, etc. Unless you observe ALL, you are guilty of ALL (James 2:10) and have NO business telling others what to do. Even then, Paul forbids us from listening to you (Co 2:16).
---StrongAxe on 2/7/19


I cannot do that list. Since many churches have many different doctrines.

I am a Seventh day Adventist Christian. I know many churches don't keep Sabbath.

But my biggest problems with all Christian churches. Is the people don't love others the way they should. We are to be helping people and spreading the gospel. Not buying jets and new cars.

Most don't show love to others as they should. That is true of all churches.
---Samuelbb7 on 2/7/19


Mike, Did you know that Christians are no longer part of this world, crucified to the world and the world to us..Galatians 6, that we are dead to this world, and seated with Christ in heavenly places IN CHRIST right now as we speak....seeking those things above and not below. Those IN CHRIST, the New Creature worships EVERYDAY, and being IN CHRIST, there is actually no such day as Saturday of Sunday....this is why we are no longer under any earthly restrictions. We are no longer part of this earthly system.

We ENTER HIS REST, as Hebrews 3-4 clearly show. This is what ENTERING HIS REST means. Jesus is not subjected to days weeks months moons etc, and neither are those IN CHRIST! Is what Colossians 2-3 is all about.
---kathr4453 on 2/7/19


strongaxe - NO. YOU are the one who does NOT get it. what is it that YOU don't understand the COMMANDMENTS OF GOD. the definition of a christian is a FOLLOWER OF christ. then why do you attack GOD's sabbath. Christ NEVER changed the sabbath to 1st day but YOUR favorite quote is romans 14:5 to justify 'any day worship' are you going to euphemize do not bear false witness as 'wrong intelligence?' or do not steal as 'free enterprise' judge 17:6 is right you are persuaded to justify sin
---mike on 2/7/19


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mike:

You still don't get it. We are Christians, NOT Constantinians. Who cares what Constantine says? You obviously don't, and neither do we. He's a non-issue.

You don't worship idols. Neither do we. It's a non-issue.

Also, what part of "Let each be persuaded in his own mind", and "Let no one judge you in the Sabbath" do you not understand?

I don't think of saturn but the CREATOR who rested on the 7th day.

And Christians don't think of the Sun, but think of the Creator TOO. YOU are the one twisting words.
---StrongAxe on 2/6/19


mike. as I've already pointed out, Protestants invent sunrise services.

The pre-reformation churches have no such custom.

Furthermore, ancient paganism did NOT have a weekly day of worship of the sun or anything else.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/6/19


strongaxe - condemning those 'who worship' on 1st day sunday. Read Ezekiel 8:16-17 God is the one who says it is an abomination to worship idols & 2nd Constantine says 'on the venerable day of the SUN'. it is a dedication to the SUN not the CREATOR.
I don't worship saturn BUT what the bible says REMEMBER the SABBATH. I don't think of saturn but the CREATOR who rested on the 7th day. i see how you are good in twisting truth.
---mike on 2/6/19


how ironic for you to say sabbath is MORE IMPORTANT than to 'listen to Christ's words' when Christ said that 7th day is MY HOLY day, I did NOT COME TO abolish the LAW but to FULFILL IT (PLEROO) or to EXECUTE the LAW OF GOD. you are adding words like PHARISEES & hypocrites when the CREATOR said REMEMBER the 7th day. there is NO leglism in REMEMBERING the CREATOR's day or to REST. 7th day POINTS TO A CREATOR not Remember to honor the SUN god.
---mike on 2/6/19


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\\many need to recognize that their ego is the one receiving the glory and because of that - they will even come against GOD'S WORD! \\

Looking at yourself in the mirror when you write that, Melody?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/6/19


Mike:

You are giving more importance to the Sabbath day than really listening to THE LORD JESUS OWN WORDS on the significance of true Christianity and how to observe it every day and from one of the Scriptures that I mentioned before: Luke 13: 15, 16 and Luke 14: 3, 4, 5 - it's your reasoning better of what THE LORD said to the respect and how HE responded to the Pharisees that were condemning HIM under their own false and hypocritical religious cover up? - yes, HE called them as they were - hypocrites - as they deserved it! . . . many need to recognize that their ego is the one receiving the glory and because of that - they will even come against GOD'S WORD!
---Melody on 2/5/19


Steveng:

Do you obey all Sabbath commandments I mentioned? I have yet to hear your answer.


mike:

If you condemn people who worship on Sunday because you think they worship the Sun, then when you worship on Saturday, you condemn yourself for worshiping Saturn.

The names of days depend on what language you use. E.g. English: Sun, Moon, Tyr, Odin, Thor, Freya, Saturn. Spanish: Lord, Mars, Mercury, Juno, Venus, Sabbath. Months are similarly named after Roman gods and emperors. Nobody today worships all of these gods.

Hebrew "shemesh" (sun) is a cognate of "Shamash" (pagan sun god) but that doesn't mean every biblical mention of "sun" is pagan sun worship.
---StrongAxe on 2/6/19


Seriously, what was Saturday named after...Saturn perhaps?...YEP, I do believe it does. SO you all are worshipping the God of Saturn..correct? And you have the audacidy to throw stones...that's hilarious !

Here's the thing, it doesn't matter what anyone named the first day after the 7th....call it "Bologna Day" , who cares. EVERY DAY is named after something pagan or whatever. We don't worship the name of the day...good grief!

Personally I changed the name of Sunday to I LOVE GOD DAY, and it works for me.
---kathr4453 on 2/6/19


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Mike, you wrote:

"1st day dedicated to the 'sun god" (by the way, why do you use caps for 'sun'? - for even
in writing - we should only give honor to THE LORD - not to the abominable pagan idols - a belief from the very depth of hell itself - I understand you do it to emphasize it, but still is wrong!

Your words says so much of how distorted you are in the interpretation of The Scriptures, and trying to put guiltiness in Christians that worship together in fellowship on Sunday, and in unity,as HE admonished us to do!
---Melody on 2/5/19


\\
cluny

1st day is dedicated to the SUN God. i know you ignore the facts of history. that is why you justify your doctrine. why is the SUN regarded as god. \\

The Sun was never worshipped on the first day of a seven day week of paganism.

There are no historical facts proving this.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/5/19


cluny

1st day is dedicated to the SUN God. i know you ignore the facts of history. that is why you justify your doctrine. why is the SUN regarded as god.
---mike on 2/5/19


So, are christians to obey nine of the commandments, except the fourth?

Matthew 5:1718

As for the verses Romans 14:5, Colossians 2:16-17:

Those that are strong in faith will keep all commandments, those that are weak in the faith only obey some of the commandments.
---Steveng on 2/5/19


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Excellent verses StrongAxe. Also we see in Acts, it looks like the had Church EVERY DAY both at the Temple and at people's homes.


Acts 2:46 And day by day, attending the temple together and breaking bread in their homes, they received their food with glad and generous hearts, 47 praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to their number day by day those who were being saved.
---kathr4453 on 2/5/19


\\sunday is pagan. \\

Mike, did you know that paganism NEVER had a weekly day of worship?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/4/19


mike:

You wrote: Christ NEVER changed the 7th day to 1st day sunday.

Why tell ME this? *I* never said he did. However, Paul said:

Romans 14:5
One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

Colossians 2:16-17
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Which are a shadow of things to come, but the body is of Christ.

Thinking all days are equally holy is fine. Why do you disobey Paul by not allowing others to be persuaded in their own minds, and by judging them on the Sabbath? Stop obsessing over shadows of Christ who already came!
---StrongAxe on 2/4/19


strongaxe - Christ NEVER changed the 7th day to 1st day sunday. there are other believers who observe the 7th day sabbath. with all your 'excuses' you cannot quote one verse Christ changed 7th day to 1st day. if Christ did, then he would have said so. the bible is right - who you obey is who you worship. since you adamantly defend sunday you obey man & the pope
---mike on 2/4/19


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josef:

It was a prophecy of the future (Matthew 24:14, Mark 13:10)


Steveng:

Yes, I HAVE read the Bible, which is why I quoted what the Bible ACTUALLY says about activities specifically forbidden on the Sabbath (refraining from labor, commerce, travel, cooking, fires, etc.).

If YOU have a different interpretation, please tell me how YOUR interpretation differs, and why, with chapter and verse, so I can address them point by point.

Also, I ask, YET AGAIN, whether or not you refrain from all of the things I mentioned above.
---StrongAxe on 2/4/19


Strongaxe wrote: "What, exactly does "keeping a day holy" means? Be specfic, and supply scriptural references."

Have you not read the bible? If you have read the bible, you would have already answered you questions. Your answer is written from Genesis to Revelation.
---Steveng on 2/4/19


"josef, in the OT, God chose the Israelites to bring God's word to the world. They failed in their task thinking it was only for them." BCV, please.
What does any of the verses you quoted have to do with what I've written concerning Jesus being sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel?
"I suggest not only reading the bible, but think about the things you are reading." You are presuming that I don't. I could presume the same of you. I suggest that you don't presume to assume anything about anyone.
---josef on 2/4/19


Strongaxe the order of my post has been switched. The post asking the questions, was written and posted first. That should be obvious, but I wanted to straighten it up anyway, just I case it wasn't.
---josef on 2/4/19


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josef, in the OT, God chose the Israelites to bring God's word to the world. They failed in their task thinking it was only for them.

God sent his son to the world to train twelve men, matching one man to each tribe, to bring God's word to the world.

Mark 16:15,Luke 14:23,Matthew 28:19-20,Acts 1:7-8

I suggest not only reading the bible, but think about the things you are reading. Read the bible through the eyes of a child, not an educated adult.
---Steveng on 2/4/19


About The Sabbath Day and what THE LORD HIMSELF said to the ruler of the Synagogue. after healing a woman in that day:

Luke 13: 15,16,17
15 "THE LORD then answered him and said: Thou hypocrite, do not each one of you on the Sabbath lose his ox or his ass from the stalk, and lead him away to watering? 16 And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, be loosed from this bond on the Sabbath day? 17 And when HE has said these things, all HIS adversaries were ashamed, and all the people rejoice for all the glorious things that were done by HIM".
---Melody on 2/4/19


Strongaxe you wrote "He told them to preach the gospel to all nations." Where, exactly? Can you document that statement? Would it change the fact that Father sent Jesus only to "the lost sheep of the house of Israel"?
---josef on 2/4/19


The Sabbath from THE LORD'S OWN WORDS = Put them in your heart and follow them: Luke 14: 3,4,5,

"And JESUS answering spoke unto the lawyers and Pharisees, saying: Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath day? 4. And they held their peace, and HE took him and healed him, and let him go. 5. And answered them saying: Which of you shall have an ass or an ox fallen into a pit, and will not straightway pull him out on the Sabbath day?
---Melody on 2/4/19


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Strongaxe Father just brought this verse to mind, Jesus said to His disciples, "Go into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature." Therefore my first question to you has been answered. However my second question remains.
---josef on 2/4/19


Steveng:

What, exactly does "keeping a day holy" means? Be specfic, and supply scriptural references.

The Law was specific. It forbade label, travel, commerce, and lighting fires. The penalty for violating the sabbath was death by stoning. This means that if you drive to church, cook, or even flip a light switch between Friday night and Saturday night, by the Law you should be stoned to death.

I have asked you several times whether or not you do any of these things, yet you have never replied. Why not? So I ask the question again, and I look forward to your answer.
---StrongAxe on 2/3/19


Although christians are to worship every day, we are still to keep the sixth day holy as God instructed his people and what the fourth commandment is to be obeyed. The fourth commandment is just as important as the other nine. Why would God establish the Sabbath in the beginning, strike it from the commandments and then re-introduce it in the new earth?

What is the purpose of keeping the sixth day holy?
---Steveng on 2/3/19


josef:

You wrote: "I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

Yes, Jesus himself only preached to the Jews in Judea before his crucifixion, but that isn't the commission he gave his disciples after his resurrection. He told them to preach the gospel to all nations.
---StrongAxe on 2/3/19


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"What did Jesus teach that today's denominational "churches" don't teach?"
"I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
"What did Jesus teach that today's denominational "christians" don't do?"
"Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world."
---josef on 2/3/19


Mike:

You said: "Sunday is pagan" - wrong you are - because all days are THE LORD'S - and HE doesn't expect to be worshiped only in some specific days (not a religion with HIM - but a relationship with THE LORD) - sad but true - many under pagan/false doctrines worship their idols on that day or another and because of transgressing against THE FIRST AND MOST SUBLIME COMMANDMENT: "I AM A JEALOUS GOD - you shall not have any 'other gods' before ME and you shall not make yourselves any idols and worship them" - they are under GOD'S JUDGMENT now and through eternity - as they vowed before 'the harlot' the one under adulterous teachings and sending the multitudes to perdition and that by centuries past!
---Melody on 2/3/19


I wonder why so many KJVOites repudiate doctrines that were devoutly held by its translators, such as hierarchy, infant baptism, and a fixed liturgy.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/3/19


Should not teach rapture - Not Biblical ?

1 Thessalonians 4:17 - Then we which are alive and remain shall be Caught Up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air : and so shall we ever be with the Lord,

( The word - Caught up - in Latin is raptura - seizing and carrying off - Hence people been calling this Rapture
---RichardC on 2/2/19


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ROBERT: You are correct to state that only a King James Bible with a black cover should be used is in error - it just goes to show you how far away some churches have been deterred from was is important. Using the Bible as an example is just one situation I've seen - I could almost write book on what I've witnessed in my 81 years of how the 'church' has drifted away from what God intended.
---wivv on 2/2/19


Black covered King James Bible? Where in the Word of God does it state what color cover Bible to read out of?
Perfect example of too much religion and not enough of the TRUE teachings of the Word of God!
---Robert on 2/2/19


One of the reasons we don't do as Christ instructed the "church" is we have put up so many misinturpretation we focus on what's not important. For example,as a missionary I've spoken in church's that if you don't use a King James, Black covered Bible, you are committing a sin. Others try to say only a certain day of the week is the valid day of worship, etc. The sad part is in ALL cases they don't know what the Bible really states. Even worse, they get upset if they are shown what the Bible states in these areas and that's keeps them doing what Christ said the 'church' should do. He just wants us to tell others that He is the only means to salvation, disciple them and live as He lived, which is living so that God glorified.
---wivv on 2/1/19


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