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What Is A Doctrine

Who is allowed to determine what a doctrine means?

The Faith that holds the doctrine or outside Faiths interpretation of said doctrine?

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....Romans 3:27.... By what law? of works? Nay: but by the LAW OF FAITH ( this law David) 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.-kathr4453

Kathryn
Paul identified this as the Law of Moses in (Acts 13:39)....and by Him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the Law of Moses.

My question, what was the Law Paul by which the doer is justified, in
(Romans 2:13) For it is not the hearers of the law who are just before God, but the doers of the laws shall be justified.
---David on 2/24/19


Psalm 119:9 Wherewithal shall a young man cleanse his way? by taking heed thereto according to thy word.

John 15:3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.

Ephesians 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

Again Peter says its NOT physical water that washes away , ( cleanses) the sins of the flesh.....it's the Death and RESURRECTION OF JESUS.

ANIMAL,BLOOD COVERED, JESUS BLOOD WASHES AWAY OUR SIN.
---kathr4453 on 2/24/19


John: We can ask each other as Christians to pray for us//

Really?

Read what you just wrote?

That ISN'T direct access to Jesus.

Remember your question?

***You still haven't answer my question if I have direct access to Jesus why do I need Ann and Mary??--john9346

You are going through someone else to pray to Jesus for you.

Thats why I call you all hypocrites?

You want Catholics to ONLY use 'direct access' to Jesus but not you all. NOOOOO, you can ask whomever you wish to speak to Jesus on your behalf.

So your question left should be why we are asking people in Heaven, because don't you know we can only ask people on earth because that's Protestants Law and EVERYONE better OBEY.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/24/19


Nicole:

According to you 'we are all hypocrites' right? - and where are you? . . . as you are so possessed in this false doctrine and the worse of all - you don't even want to accept the serious spiritual danger where you are - for as you keep on preaching about 'your Mary and saints being in Heaven' - (well - of course not the ones that you have made idols to) - for if the real ones could come down - they'll rebuke you for you trampling upon GOD'S WORD by defying what HE says: "I AM THE ONLY MEDIATOR between GOD and sinners" - you are not supposed to communicate and much more give reverence to anyone there - except THE LORD for in that you are breaking THE FIRST AND ABOVE ALL COMMANDMENTS - repent!!!
---Melody on 2/23/19


Nicole said, "
NEVER NEVER ask anyone of your friends to pray for you and then we can TALK!"

Ma'am, your refusing to address the real issue at hand.

We can ask each other as Christians to pray for us as Scriputre encourage,however, we don't ask our fellow believers by attributing God Attributes to them... something you and strongaxe refuse to address.

Again all of the prayers are posted for everyone to read the worship and The God Attributes are unmistakably clear...

May The Lord Jesus show you mercy,

John
---john9346 on 2/23/19




Mark 1:8 - I indeed have Baptized you with water: But he shall Baptize you with the Holy Ghost,

Ephesians 4:5 - One Lord, one faith. one Baptism,

( Ezekiel 36:25 - Say's : I will cleanse you - meaning God - So by man pouring water over a person head, Is that what's getting them save? or is it God cleansing ? Something that not seen ? One Baptism The water baptism a out ward physical thing man does, to show what God is really doing ? )
---RichardC on 2/23/19


John, I did answer you. I guess the Moderator refused to release my 2nd blog.

You CAN'T put out the last 2 sentences of a prayer trying to trick people.

As I showed you with my 'you are killing me' line.

They are NOT the object as your Pastor isn't.

You refused to go to Jesus as your direct access, but want to PREACH to Catholics.

NEVER NEVER ask anyone of your friends to pray for you and then we can TALK!

You all are hypocrites.

We KNOW Mary is in Heaven. But you all DON'T KNOW the condition of the souls you are asking to pray for you.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/23/19


David, your answer:

.....Romans 3:27.... By what law? of works? Nay: but by the LAW OF FAITH ( this law David) 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Romans 4:13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith..14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect: 16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace, to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed, not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all,
---kathr4453 on 2/23/19


Nicole:

Your way of denying GOD'S WORD and your own false doctrine, is to respond to others who stand up for true Christianity - with your own critical and ridiculous words and so obvious it is through the many reply messages that you send - avoiding the subject and applying your foolish judgmental words to those who according to you are contradicting your own 'made up' and distorted interpretation of The Scriptures and over and over again - going back where you are - to your own spiritual delusion - away from THE TRUTH!

And: Under which authority you are - that I'm supposed to give you my age??? - how insane that is!:-)))
---Melody on 2/22/19


Kathryn
As a teacher of Pauls epistles, tell us why In (Acts 2:39), Paul say we can not be justified by keeping the Law, But in (Romans 2:13), Paul says We are justified by keeping the Law.

In (Acts 13:39), Paul clarifies the Law by which we can not be justified, is the Law of Moses. But what Law is Paul talking about in (Romans 2:13), that Law, by which we are justified?

(Romans 2:13) For it is not the hearers of the law who are just before God, but the doers of the laws shall be justified.

(Acts 13:39)....and by Him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the Law of Moses.
---David on 2/23/19




Nicole:

I asked you a follow up question because you said that it is ok to pray to Mary and Ann because they are in heaven.

The prayers to Ann and Mary are posted here for everyone to see...

You still haven't answer my question if I have direct access to Jesus why do I need Ann and Mary??

when Christians ask each other to pray for them, they are not the object Jesus is and we do not attribute God Qualities to them...

No Christian ask another Christian in prayer to, "Save me from every danger that confronts me in life, and help me at the hour of my death."
---john9346 on 2/22/19


strongaxe ask, "
Just what "God Attribute" is Mary "said" to have, and who says it, and where?"

Sir, reread my question to you the quotation is posted...
---john9346 on 2/22/19


Melody: Nicole:

Enough of your arguing://

Listen little girl, I asked your age before and you refused to tell me.

But you DON'T tell me to stop doing anything.

If you can't answer me then ignore me or MOVE ON!

//The only and sound Doctrine is the one that comes from GOD'S WORD//

Again, you don't need DOCTRINES for subjects written in the Bible.

Words in the Bible calls for 'interpretation'. Do you understand?

Now you what to argue with me in what the word 'Doctrine' means.

//and by the Inspiration of GOD'S HOLY SPIRIT//

Well you are NOT listening to God's Holy Spirit. Because I know He isn't telling you to speak to people as you have been on CN.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/22/19


2 John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.


Christ is made unto us wisdom and knowledge. All truth flow down to the body from the HEAD. Christ alone is the HEAD. Not the Pope, not the RCC, not the SDA's, not the SBC.

If you have the Father and the Son, then you are with God IN CHRIST, Colossians 3:1-4, and as John 17 Jesus prayed, that we may be ONE. This is the MYSTERY first mentioned in John 17. I IN THEM...CHRIST IN YOU...the Mystery Colossians 1:24-27.

The Gospel according to the MYSTERY John 17 is what Paul preached..to both Jew and Gentile. Romans 16:25-27.
---kathr4453 on 2/22/19


Nicole:

Enough of your arguing: The only and sound Doctrine is the one that comes from GOD'S WORD and by the Inspiration of GOD'S HOLY SPIRIT - you are here to come against IT as you are not abiding by THE TRUE GOSPEL of our LORD JESUS CHRIST and in open rebellion about HIS ADMONITIONS and by your own rebellious doctrine that put you away from GOD'S SALVATION for it's blasphemous and idolatrous teaching that you constantly advocate and at the same time deny - in grave spiritual danger you are - no more of this! . . . as THE LORD says that if someone like you reject THE TRUTH - that we should leave and no more strive to share THE TRUTH with them: = Revelation 21:7,8 - Read it - no one contradict GOD'S WORD!
---Melody on 2/22/19


There is terrible doctrinal disunity in the church in large part due to a failure to recognize the greater commission given to the apostle Paul to us-ward in this dispensation (Eph 3:1-9).
By failing to distinguish Pauls ministry of the mystery of Christ to all men from the ministry of the Twelve apostles to prophetic Israel, commision confusion ensues.
Divisions are created when a doctrine to Israel is combined with a mystery truth. There are hundreds of combinations of these wrong admixtures, there are hundreds of churches.
Separating prophecy and mystery promotes unity around sound doctrine. The Lord teaches us that unity any other way is not worth having.
---michael_e on 2/22/19


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In reality each church sets up their own doctrine. Many different churches hold some common doctrines.

A doctrine is basically a teaching of the Church that has become a standard.

For instance the RCC teaches Apostolic authority.

Protestants teach the Bible is the final authority.

Each person must make up their own mind. To me the Word of GOD is the final authority.
---Samuelbb7 on 2/22/19


Melody: "Who's allowed to determine what a doctrine means"? The doctrine that we should emphasize here, is the Only One Doctrine that THE LORD admonishes to follow//

There are more than one Doctrine.

I think you are mistaken about Doctrine.

Doctrines are truths that the Bible does not address.

EX: Is Jesus True Man and True God.

Or if Mary the mother of just Jesus, but not Jesus as God?

But you left out the 2nd part the question that goes with the 1st question.

So to clarify my question above. The questions is asking can Baptists determine what the CC's Doctrine means instead of the CC?

So the Gospels are not Doctrines.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/22/19


StrongAxe: Miracles are no guarantee that someone is sent by God.//

Who said that? I DIDN'T.

These people are no longer on earth.

I said, after the Church DECLARES the person a 'Servant of God' you can requests favors from that person to ASK God for miracles.

The Church examines the miracle and HAS to declare the miracle is real. (That isn't easy)

If the Church finds out you took treatment for an illness that might cure the disease (Chemo) then it is thrown out.

Or that you asked 2 people to ask God it is thrown out.

The Church wouldn't know which person in Heaven God granted the miracle upon their behalf.

The person FIRST had to lived an EXEMPLARY life on EARTH PRIOR to death.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/22/19


"Who's allowed to determine what a doctrine means"? . . .

The doctrine that we should emphasize here, is the Only One Doctrine that THE LORD admonishes to follow - the One based under the leading of GOD'S SPIRIT - THE TRUE GOSPEL of Salvation and those only allowed to determine IT are those who have been born of GOD'S SPIRIT and have received Salvation thru THE ONLY WAY there is - THE LORD JESUS CHRIST - for those that are HIS OWN will totally understand, accept and share THE TOTAL IN PURITY WORD OF GOD - no adding or removing - for commitment unto THE LORD and under obedience - it shows to the world THE LIGHT in them and away from the darkness: "You are in the world, but not of the world" - says THE LORD!
---Melody on 2/22/19


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Jerry, please clarify your question. I don't understand

David: 1 Corinthians 14:34 GOOD ONE!

Kathr: So is this question killing you Nicole?//

When you read DON'T skip every other sentence.

Maybe you won't sound strange when you response to someone? MAYBE?

//If John died, and you knew he was in Heaven, //

Again DON'T SKIP sentences.

Just because I knew he was in Heaven doesn't mean the CC would make him a 'Servant of God'. Esp. if he dies a Protestant or asked for forgiveness a minute before death

GOT IT?

//Since every believer is A SAINT,//

Who said that?

It's the Protestants PROCLAIMING everyone is in Heaven at their funerals.

CATHOLICS DO NOT.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/22/19


David, I don't believe Paul gave a different gospel to the Gentiles. The Gospel according to,the MYSTERY is that God made IN CHRIST, ONE NEW MAN, out of both Jew and Gentile, but IN CHRIST is neither Jew or Gentile.

I wonder if Pricilla was forced to be quiet, seeing she was preaching the Gospel,and even brought Apollo up to snuff in doctrine.

But remember David, CN is not being in Church.....if you are trying to shut me down. And what I do IN CHURCH is really none of your business is it? According to Paul, you need to be minding your own business...not mine.
---kathr4453 on 2/22/19


David, I am a Jew after the flesh, and believe Pauls Gospel, ...so again, either you never read what I post, or you are confusing me with someone else.

I don't know of any denomination that believes Paul gave a different Gospel to the Gentiles then he did to the Jews. Paul addresses in all his epistles to the Jew first and then to the Gentile.

No wonder we are at such odds.....you simply can't grasp what others say or believe. If you have misinterpreted me so easily, it is understandable why you also misinterpret scripture as well.
---kath4453 on 2/22/19


Nicole_Lacey:

Miracles are no guarantee that someone is sent by God. One often hears of miracles performed by so-called "holy men" of other religions, e.g. Hinduism. In the Old Testament, they were told to disbelieve prophets who told people to follow other gods, even if their predictions were true. The two wizards Moses confronted were capable of wonders - his was just stronger than theirs. The False Prophet of Revelation will be capable of many wonders. Jesus said that many would ask him, "Didn't we do miracles in your name?" and he would say "Get away from me! I never knew you!".


john9346:

Just what "God Attribute" is Mary "said" to have, and who says it, and where?
---StrongAxe on 2/22/19


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Kathryn
If Jesus gave Paul a different gospel for the gentile follower, as you believe, and you are Pauls follower, do you follow the statute below, when you attend church?

(1 Corinthians 14:34) Let your women keep silence in the churches, for it is not permitted unto them to speak, but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
---David on 2/22/19


"In thy hands I place my eternal salvation and to thee do I entrust my soul."

Would either of you pray this to me if I died tomorrow if not explain??
---john9346 on 2/21/19

So is this question killing you Nicole? Just answer it without all the 3rd grade analogies having nothing to do with the question EXCEPT to blow smoke, and wiggle out of.

If John died, and you knew he was in Heaven, would you pray this to him? And why not?

Since every believer is A SAINT, don't use the RCC's sainthood ruler here...use God's.

Those IN CHRIST don't pray such things to Mary. We already KNOW we have eternal life IN CHRIST. Sounds like you all don't believe in being IN CHRIST.
---kathr4453 on 2/22/19


Nicole:

New Covenant vs. 2 laws:

Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

Again, no mention of a new law in the new covenant - just a new location.

I know that your Church embraces the Ten Commandments (albeit numbering them differently). Why then do you seem to be warring against them like an Evangelical?


---jerry6593 on 2/22/19


John, you love cutting off the prayers to convey your wrong point.

That's like me saying:

John, please stop making me laugh. You are killing me.

Then someone only quotes the 2nd part of my statement addressing to you. "You are killing me."

It's true I said that, but am I claiming you ended my life?

NO!

The person ONLY showed what they wanted others to see to back up their talking points as you are doing.

//why do we need someone else to do for us when we have direct acces to the Lord Jesus Christ..Why isn't this enough??//

For the SAME REASON you all ask each other to pray for you.

What HAPPENED to your direct access?
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/21/19


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John, I don't know if you would end up in Heaven.

We can only pray to you to intercede to God for us when you have been declared a 'Servant of God'

After you are declared a Servant of God' then when someone prays to you the Church needs a sign from God by which HE grants a Miracle on your behalf. Thus telling the Church you are indeed in Heaven.

To be declared a 'Servant of God'. The Church has to review your life.

In other words if you lived with your girl friend for 40 years up to your death you can believe you will not be declared a 'Servant of God'.

BTW, that's isn't declaring you are in hell because you could have repented seconds before death.

She never declares any specific person in hell.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/21/19


Nicole:

question,

why do we need someone else to do for us when we have direct acces to the Lord Jesus Christ himself 1 Tim 2:5, Jn 16:23, Jn 14:14? Why isn't this enough??

Those in prison don't have direct access to Trump, but if they had his direct celphone why would they need John Kelly or others???
---john9346 on 2/21/19


Strongaxe and nicole:

If in fact you both are not saying that people don't become gods when they die then explain why Mary has a God Attribute

"In thy hands I place my eternal salvation and to thee do I entrust my soul."

Would either of you pray this to me if I died tomorrow if not explain??
---john9346 on 2/21/19


strongaxe and nicole:

If the following is not worship and Ann isn't a god then how can she do the following:

"Save me from every danger that confronts me in life, and help me at the hour of my death."

Can we all agree that a mere human can't do this?
---john9346 on 2/21/19


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john9346:

You wrote: So when someone dies do they becomes gods?

Only if they're Mormons...
---StrongAxe on 2/21/19


Heb2:10 support Hebrews 5-1-9..... you must read ALL of Hebrews 5 : 1-9....yes ONE THROUGH NINE.


Hebrews 2:10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

1 Peter 5:10 But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you.


Cowards don't want to suffer...so what they do is say they keep the law...and by that AVOID THE FELLOWSHIP OF HIS SUFFERINGS. Also Satan has deceived you David to avoid the CROSS...being crucified with Christ...where our sufferings BEGIN.
---kathr4453 on 2/21/19


David, Read all of ch. 11 It starts with Melchizedek and whom Jesus is the line of Melchizedek.

Before the 2nd Law could be established the 1st had to be fulfilled by Jesus.

Jesus-Judah, King bloodline also a Priest and Lamb at the same time.

He can start the NEW Priesthood (12 Apostles at the Last Supper.)

//Jesus was made perfect, (Hebrews 5:9). What made Jesus perfect,//

His perfection in Obedience to God which Adam wasn't Obedient.

V8 Although he was a Son, he learned obedience through what he suffered,

Remember Jesus asked God to remove the Cup Matt 26:39.

God didn't so Jesus drank the cup in obedience that made Him perfect. PERFECT Sacrifice to God for the Salvation for the world.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/21/19


John: "Thou art the dispenser of all the goods which God grants to us miserable sinners,//

Read it again

'All the GOODS which God GRANTS to us!

'Dispenser' doesn't mean they are the original of the item.

The waiter that dispenses the food isn't the cook.

John 2:8..Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet."

He is speaking the the Servants. Because they gave the wine to the Master of the Banquet does that mean the Servants turned the water to wine?

NOOOOOOO!

//So when someone dies do they becomes gods?//

Nonsense. When those in prison asked people in the Trump's Administration to plead to Trump for a pradon. Does that make them presidents?

NOOOOO!
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/21/19


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Nicole:

You quoted: "For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the Scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter The Kingdom of Heaven":

You're not applying it to yourself first, knowing that where you are and for your rejection of The Scriptures of those things that are an abomination to THE LORD ="Those who worship idols cannot enter GOD'S KINGDOM" = and "If any man shall add unto these things, GOD shall add unto him that plagues that are written in this Book". Revelation 22:18 and = Deuteronomy 4:2 You shall not add unto THE WORD which I command you, neither shall you diminish ought from IT, that you my keep THE COMMANDMENTS OF THE LORD GOD of your fathers given you".<
---Melody on 2/21/19


Romans 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. 3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience, 4 And patience, experience, and experience, hope: THIS IS WHAT DAVID IS MISSING IN HIS FALSE DOCTRINE.

5 And hope maketh not ashamed, because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.

And again Romans 5 expose David's false doctrine. Not on word says LAW.... It's all about FAITH.
---kath4453 on 2/21/19


Adam was created lower than the Angles, and was not GOD in the flesh. Jesus, the WORD MADE FLESH was not created, nor just a man. Jesus learned obedience through the things He suffered, to be a example to us. Hebrews. The testing in the wilderness had nothing to do with the law, but obedience to the will of God. Romans 12:1-2 show what one must do to even KNOW the perfect will of God. ONLY THOSE WHO DO THE WILL OF MY FATHER. No one is justified by keeping the law. Much more no one is SANCTIFIED by keeping the law.

We are sanctified through the BODY OF CHRIST, once and for all. Hebrews 10.

It appears Hebrews exposes David's false doctrine.
---kathr4453 on 2/21/19


David, as In the OT if you broke one part of the law you sinned against all the law.---Nicole_Lacey

True,
The Law was changed for this very reason, for it made no one perfect,(Hebrews 7:11). What does it mean to be perfect?

Jesus was made perfect, (Hebrews 5:9). What made Jesus perfect, why did he not succumb to sin when he was temped? Adam was also created perfect, but when he was tempted, he sinned. Jesus was obviously born with something Adam was not.
What was it?

Jesus Christ was born with the Love of God. His love for God, kept him from sin. And through the Law of Christ, God will make us perfect in Love.
But dont take my word for it, (1 John 2:5).
---David on 2/21/19


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nicole said, "If you are asking for me to insert my name instead of St. Ann or the Virgin Mary's Name in the prayers for others to request favors from me it isn't possible.
BECAUSE I am NOT in Heaven with Heaven."

So when someone dies do they becomes gods?
---john9346 on 2/21/19


nicole said, "
For the life of me I can not understand how you all think it is better to ask your Pastors for prayer, but tell me I can't do the same to people in Heaven."

But we don't call nor ask of our pastors the following that only God alone can do:

"Thou art the dispenser of all the goods which God grants to us miserable sinners, and for this reason he has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, that thou mayest help us in our misery."

"In thy hands I place my eternal salvation and to thee do I entrust my soul."
---john9346 on 2/21/19


We don't ask our pastors to do this for us:


Obtain for me, from God, the power to imitate those virtues with which you are so plentifully endowed. Help me to know and regret my sins bitterly. Obtain for me the grace of active love for Jesus and Mary, and resolution to fulfill the duties of my state of life with faithfulness.
Save me from every danger that confronts me in life, and help me at the hour of my death.
---john9346 on 2/21/19


Many verses of our prayers for one another, but NEVER praying or contacting the DEAD for help. Actually God calls that witchcraft, and Saul was mightily punished.

Romans 15:30 Now I beseech you, brethren, for the Lord Jesus Christ's sake, and for the love of the Spirit, that ye strive together with me in your prayers to God for me,

2 Corinthians 1:11 Ye also helping together by prayer for us, that for the gift bestowed upon us by the means of many persons thanks may be given by many on our behalf.

Ephesians 1:16 Cease not to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers,

1 Thessalonians 1:2 We give thanks to God always for you all, making mention of you in our prayers,
---kathr4453 on 2/21/19


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Nicole:

The spiritual ambivalence where you are and your misleading doctrine it's so offensive - how can you apply this verse to your own distorted spirituality in contradiction to GOD'S COMMANDMENTS? - it's hard to understand!

Matthew 5: 18,20 about those who break GOD'S COMMANDMENTS - as yourself keep on breaking them and to ONE OF THE HIGHEST ONE that is about THE LORD SOVEREIGNTY and as HIM being THE ONLY ONE MEDIATOR between GOD and the souls as GOD'S WORD remind us!

You again are trampling upon HIS COMMANDMENTS - giving glory to Mary and the saints for their intercession of your prayers to THE LORD - a false doctrine of a religion that you have chosen to defend and under GOD'S JUDGMENT!
---Melody on 2/20/19


For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/20/19

Paul was a Pharisee, and considered himself BLAMELESS. But what Paul tells us in Philippians 3, is he considered all that DUNG, compared to having the Righteousness of Christ. One was his righteousness, the other is Christ's righteousness. Fact is, the only righteousness that EXCEEDS the righteousness of the Pharisees is having the Righteousness of Christ. You can't eat this or achieve it.....because it's IMPUTED BY FAITH. PPHILIPPIANS 3 Is the most awesome chapter.
---kathr4453 on 2/20/19


David, as In the OT if you broke one part of the law you sinned against all the law as Paul said Romans.

But not so in Jesus' Faith.
as Matthew 5:18-20

For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. So then, whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do likewise will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/20/19


John: Like I asked strongaxe insert your name in the prayer to Ann and Mary and tell us all is the request something you can do or is it God alone??//

If you are asking for me to insert my name instead of St. Ann or the Virgin Mary's Name in the prayers for others to request favors from me it isn't possible.

BECAUSE I am NOT in Heaven with Heaven.

We ask Saints in Heaven and Jesus' Mother because we KNOW they can assist us in interceding for us.

If I ask you to pray for me it may not be answered because your soul might be in a worst state than mine.

For the life of me I can not understand how you all think it is better to ask your Pastors for prayer, but tell me I can't do the same to people in Heaven.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/20/19


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2 Corinthian's 3 says we are CHANGED FROM GLORY TO GLORY BY THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD. The Gospel according to the Mystery is Christ in you the hope of GLORY. Colossians 1:24_27. This GLORY cannot be accessed by keeping the law.

In bringing many sons INTO GLORY...
---kathr4453 on 2/20/19


We are conformed to the image of Jesus Christ through.the fellowship.of his sufferings THROUGH FAITH IN HIS PROMISES, NOT BY KEEPING THE LAW.

2 Peter 1
Philippians 3
---kathr4453 on 2/20/19


The ultimate law is LOVE ---Steveng on 2/19/19

Exactly!!
And this is why we must be born again. Our hearts must be changed, changed to make us the servants of Almighty God. We are not born this way, so we must be born again.
How does God change our hearts? By keeping the commands of Jesus Christ.

If you do not keep his commandments, this change will not take place, and you will not be saved. It is as Simple as that.
---David on 2/20/19


Galatians 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, 5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

Here is the PROPHECY in the OT concerning Jesus. Luke24:44.

If we walk in the Spirit...WHICH IS LOVE, PEACE, LONGSUFFERING ETC ETC...AGAINST SUCH THERE IS NO LAW. Galatians 5:22-25.

Now what LAW in the OT said to love one another? NONE! The LAW said, "an eye for eye"...the NT says no such thing.

The law is not of faith. Galatians 3:12

So are you living by faith OR the Law. Can't be both.

And no law is in me to rotate my crops etc, because HEAVEN IS MY HOME.
---kathr4453 on 2/20/19


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The ultimate law is LOVE - as in the verb form. All the laws in the bible hangs upon this one law.

The two commandments Jesus spoke of hangs upon this law of which the Ten Commandment hang of which all the laws of the prophets hang of which the 613 laws hang.
---Steveng on 2/19/19


John, please clarify your question. I am not sure what you are asking?

Jerry, there are 2 Laws.

The first is called the Law of Moses which Jesus fulfills.

Luke 24:44 He said to them, This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.

You skipped V8 of James 2

If ye fulfil the ROYAL law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:

Jesus is the Royal Law

Roman 10:4 "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth"

But make no mistake. The first Law is in the 2nd Law, but the 2nd goes deeper into righteousness.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/19/19


My Bible says that the Law was NOT changed in the New Covenant, but rather the location of the Law was changed - the Heart rather than on Stone.

Jas 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
Jas 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
Jas 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.


---jerry6593 on 2/19/19


there are 2 Laws.---Nicole_Lacey

God changed the Law, creating a new covenant, but some of the old is written in with the new. The old written on stone, the new written on your heart. For instance....Stealing, adultery, lying and murder are still a part of the new covenant. You should feel guilt and sorrow, before God, if you commit these sins.

It is interesting, how folks who do not confess their sins, become numb to feeling this guilt and sorrow before God. And then immediately after asking God to forgive them of said sin, as recommended by Jesus Christ, they become acutely aware of sin.

Why the difference? Confession of sin removes the sin which separates us from God, putting us back in the light.
---David on 2/19/19


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Nicole:

Like I asked strongaxe insert your name in the prayer to Ann and Mary and tell us all is the request something you can do or is it God alone??

I asked strongaxe this question and he couldn't answer??

BTw, strongaxe is not a wise source or reference he's extremely inconsistent...
---john9346 on 2/18/19


All the laws of the OT and NT are the same. God's laws never change. God's word never changes. The only difference between the OT and the NT is that the OT is of a physical nature and the NT is of a spiritual nature. Case in point: in the OT it was a sin to bodily murder someone, but in the NT even if you THINK in your heart of murdering someone it is a sin.
---Steveng on 2/18/19


The law tells us exactly what sin is. That can never change. Whether you are under the law or not, NOW WE ALL KNOW what God says sin is. The LAW exposes sin.

The law was added so sin would abound. Romans 5. And where sin abounds ...GRACE MUCH MORE ABOUNDS.

NO ONE TODAY CAN CLAIM IGNORANCE OF WHAT SIN IS.

Romans 5 , is so simple. Why many fail to read or believe is beyond me. I call it willful ignorance.
---kathr4453 on 2/18/19


David: If Jesus did away with the Law, it is impossible to be a sinner,//

Matt 5:17.

//it is impossible to sin without the Law.//

Remember there are 2 Laws. The 1st no longer. Now if esp. is harder is the Law of the heart. (Faith) Stay in Romans 2.

Romans 2:14-16 (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.) This will take place on the day when God judges peoples secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/18/19


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Nicole, the church is the body of Christ, as members, both individually, and collectively. The building is simply a place for the gathering. The original church of God was a gathering of the children of Israel in the wilderness.
---Josef on 2/18/19


Nicole
I point out these contradictions by trying to show folks that most doctrines override their own interpretation. For example, Most doctrines teach we are sinners saved by grace, which is true. But...

But they contradict that teaching by saying, Jesus did away with the Law. The bible teaches, Sin is the transgression of the Law (1 John 3:4). And without the Law, there can be no sin (Romans 4:15).

If Jesus did away with the Law, it is impossible to be a sinner, because it is impossible to sin without the Law. Furthermore, How can the Holy Spirit convict us of sin, if there is no Law to be convicted of?

The blind leading the blind?
---David on 2/18/19


There are two resurrections: the first at the soon to return of Jesus where the dead in Christ shall rise first and the living shall be caught up with the dead and the second at the end of the thousand year reign of Christ where all the other dead from all of history shall rise and be judged from the Book of Life according to their works some to everlasting life, some to everlasting death. Blessed are the ones who rise in the first resurrection. (Revelation 20)

Who are the dead in Christ if the saints are already in heaven?
---Steveng on 2/17/19


Josef: the only true doctrine, is the doctrine revealed by the lord Jesus//

Correct. The Body of Christ which is the Church is revealed by Him.

//It is the Father that has determined it's meaning, faith is not only needed for our understanding of it's meaning, it is required.//

Yes, but Jesus set up the Church to be guided by the Holy Spirit in defining Doctrines. John 14:26

//And "He that abides in the doctrine of Christ, has both the Father and the Son," and he will know the truth, and that truth will set him free.//

Yes, but you can not leave out the Church instituted by Jesus.

Everyone is not allowed to considered in their own thinking in determining what is and is not doctrine.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/17/19


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The Bible defines doctrine as instruction, knowledge, or content of what is taught. (Prov 4:1-2 Isa 28:9a)
The Bible says there are many doctrines in the world and it could be easy for the unstable to be carried away with unsound doctrine. Ephesians 4:14 says to be established in the Word of God.
We should study to shew ourselves approved unto God learning the doctrine of God found in the Bible. Paul instructs
Till I come, give attendance to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine. 1Tim 4:13
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 2 Tim 3:16
---michael_e on 2/17/19


O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the goods which God grants to us miserable sinners, and for this reason he has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee.
---john9346 on 2/17/19


Come then, to my help, dearest Mother, for I recommend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation and to thee do I entrust my soul.
---john9346 on 2/17/19


Steveng, I have proven there isn't any veracity in your bones.

Next

Melody, you would have judged the children of God in Numbers 21:4-9 with the SAME words and condemnation as you do with the CC.

You won't explain the difference in ours actions.

The only thing is that they got HEALED from just looking at the bronze statues.

John, as StrongAxe told you before in his blogs. There ISN'T one single word proving the prayers are in an adoration form. The ones below are asking them to ASK God/Jesus for a favor.

St. Anne's prayer: ...Obtain from God.. (As the end result of the plea.)

BTW, Steveng: Mark 12:27 applies to you.

He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. YOU are BADLY MISTAKEN!
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/17/19


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Nicole the only true doctrine, is the doctrine revealed by the lord Jesus, the Christ, and as He said, the doctrine is not His, it is the doctrine of the One that sent Him. It is the Father that has determined it's meaning, faith is not only needed for our understanding of it's meaning, it is required. And "He that abides in the doctrine of Christ, has both the Father and the Son," and he will know the truth, and that truth will set him free.
---Josef on 2/17/19


So, catholics dont worship dead people / statues? Lets take an example of which Im familiar with:

The Feast of San Gennaro

This is an Italian-American festival in the U.S. which began in Italy to celebrate Saint Januarius, the Patron Saint of Naples. This feast day is September 19 in the liturgical calendar of the Roman Catholic Church.

Catholics rub his statue for good luck. The pope never reprimands anyone from doing so.

And what about burying a statue of St. Joseph in your yard so that he will work hard to sell your house. This is done more often than you think.
---Steveng on 2/17/19


Nicole

Is not that "many people claim that" - it is and have been since centuries back!!! - (why do you keep on defending and denying what it's obvious - what will be your gain on that?) - you can now see it not only in those places all over the world, but now through the different technological options - rendering worship to those abominations of which THE LORD as HE clearly says it in HIS WORD - under "HIS FURY HE will destroy": Pray about it for THE LORD to deliver you under the deceit that you are ignoring GOD'S ADMONITIONS and be set free!
---Melody on 2/17/19


Nicole said, "Many people claim Catholics worship statues as idols. Even though we state in the CCC that offense if a GRAVE sin again the 1st Commandment? (2nd to them)."

Ms. Lacy, the CC isn't above Scripture, bowing down in front of a statute with a lit candle and incense burning asking that statue to do something for you is emphatically worship my friend see, Exo 20:1-5...
---john9346 on 2/16/19


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Receive me, good St. Anne, into the number of your true clients, for so I profess myself and wish to remain throughout my entire life.
Obtain for me, from God, the power to imitate those virtues with which you are so plentifully endowed. Help me to know and regret my sins bitterly. Obtain for me the grace of active love for Jesus and Mary, and resolution to fulfill the duties of my state of life with faithfulness.
Save me from every danger that confronts me in life, and help me at the hour of my death.
Amen.

---
---john9346 on 2/16/19


Nicole wrote: "... by what authority does an outsider have to define another's doctrine?"

Divine authority of what is written. Walk into any roman catholic church (yes, nicole, roman) and notice the feet of the statues especially the statues of Jesus and Mary. Notice that the feet are worn down by people rubbing them for good luck or to answer a prayer. People have altars in their homes having statues ofJesus, Mary and the saints. If your supreme leader, the pope, that you worship is any kind of leader of God, then he would have all statues destroyed. Your pope knows this is happening, but says or does nothing.
---Steveng on 2/16/19


Nicole:

GOD'S WORD it's the best reply to your answers - and if the soul listen to IT and has become saved - he/she won't ever contradict it - for it has been sealed in their heart through GOD'S SPIRIT within!

"For our Gospel came not unto you in WORD only but also in POWER IN THE HOLY GHOST, and in much assurance as you know as you know what manner of men we were among you for your own sake. For they themselves show us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how you turned to GOD from idols to serve THE LIVING AND TRUE GOD". 1 Thessalonians 5,9,10

"And you became followers of us and of THE LORD, having received THE WORD in much affliction, with joy of THE HOLY GHOST".
---Melody on 2/16/19


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