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I have suffered some depressions and some excitement exiting them. I believe all addictions are a personal problem. How do I get Biblical help?

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Mike,

there is still much unknown about brain function, and more involved in depression than chemical imbalances, but neurotransmitters etc. are involved, no matter the cause...
The relatively new understandings of neuroplasticity shed some light...too much to go into here.

I'm not a fan of meds either but recognize their value in instances, and over medicating can be a big problem.

"i focus on myself more in a good way". Good for you. Best wishes.
---Chria9396 on 3/21/19


mike, CLINICAL depression is caused by a chemical imbalance. There are others recognized in the DSM that I won't go into here.

And no matter how full of hypocrites a church is, there's always room for one more.

Even you, mike.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/20/19


chria9396 - really? chemical imbalance? why did ezekiel got depress? is it chemical imbalance? i NEVER TOOK antidepressants inspite a psychiatrist told me to do. look at all the children hooked on 'drugs'. before when bad painful memories trigger, it starts my depression & vicious cycle of hopelessness, no direction, low self confidence etc. i focus on myself more in a good way & not listen to these stupid pastors who are hypocrites.
---mike on 3/20/19


The Bible has many promises of help to us. When I read and listen to those promises they help me when things are bad. They encourage me.

Yes addictions are a personal problem. But it is best to deal with them with help from GOD and others. Fighting by yourself is not good.

Proverbs speak of when two walk together one can help the other.
---Samuelbb7 on 3/17/19


steveng said, "
Couldn't the spirit of God work through all true christians as the spirit of God worked through Jesus?"

Work through in what way be specific?

---john9346 on 3/16/19




Depression does involve a chemical imbalance, however, is the imbalance a cause, result, or both? Most people experience some type during their lifetime, but some struggle with all of their life. There are varied types and severities.

Tim, A choice? I doubt people choose to get depression. Some may choose to stay in it to some degree, but that too I don't think is a clear cut conscious choice, as depression can be complex with varied aspects such as physical, chemical, emotional, psychological...

Mike, yes, being in abusive relationships can at least in part, cause or exacerbate depression. A chemical imbalance does occur. It'S sad if any religious group is abusive as you point out, and reinforce and/or exploit many with struggles
---Chria9396 on 3/14/19


And just what are your criteria for being what you consider a "true Christian," Steveng?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/13/19


Couldn't the spirit of God work through all true christians as the spirit of God worked through Jesus?
---Steveng on 3/13/19


Steveng:

Trinitarians we do not believer The Son is The Father, The Father and The Son are separate persos that make us the 1 being of God.
---john9346 on 3/12/19


How can the Son be also the Father?
---Steveng on 3/12/19




Steven: GOD'S WORD - no one can deny without bringing eternal judgment into their soul -repent before THE LORD GOD now!

Revelation 8:1 "I AM THE ALPHA AND OMEGA, THE BEGINNING AND THE END, says THE LORD".

Psalms 8 : 1 and 9. "O LORD (YAHWEH) our LORD, how excellent is THY NAME (ADONAI) in all the earth, WHO has set THY GLORY above the Heavens".
John 20:28 "And Thomas answered and said unto HIM: My LORD AND MY GOD".
---Melody on 3/12/19


Steveng:

Jn 20:17 and other passages when Jesus said the Father worked through him are Scriptures containing the Humanity not his Divinity...

Jesus's Divinity Jn 824, 58, 18:5-9, 20:28.

Not sure why you are trying to bring conflict when there is none in the nature of Christ...
---john9346 on 3/12/19


cluny wrote: "Jesus is God Incarnate, whether you believe it or not."

It's not whether I believe it or not, it's what Jesus expressly says such as John 20:17. He also said that He cannot do anything on his own, but God working through him.
---Steveng on 3/11/19


Steven:

THE LORD is giving you another opportunity for you to repent of your blasphemous words on saying that HE is not GOD .. . please answer: How are you expect to be saved if you haven't accepted HIM as your SAVIOR? - for "HE IS THE ONLY WAY TO be saved" - explain: How anyone can be saved and cleansed by THE LORD'S JESUS CHRIST BLOOD in dying by us all sinners, if HE IS not GOD? - for no sinner dying for another one - can give Eternal Life: Read more of what GOD signifies as HE said: "I AND THE FATHER - ARE ONE" and meditate on this as well - by also asking THE LORD personally to give you the discernment and faith to understand GOD'S SOVEREIGNITY!
---Melody on 3/11/19


\\Even though Eli means "my God" in that particular edition of that bible translation, Does it matter?\\

What do YOU think the Hebrew word "Eli" means, Steveng?

Jesus is God Incarnate, whether you believe it or not.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/11/19


Cluny wrote: "Wrong again, Melody."

Even though Eli means "my God" in that particular edition of that bible translation, Does it matter?

Isn't Jesus the son of the Father?

And isn't this just another verse that proves that Jesus is NOT God?
---Steveng on 3/10/19


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\\ "FATHER, FATHER, why has you forsaken ME"? \\

Wrong again, Melody.

The Savior quoted the opening words of Psalm 22 (21 LXX): My God, my God....

It was not "Father, Father."

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/9/19


Steveng, I have no reason to doubt that you have or have not gone to physicians.

You will know the answer to that better than I.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/7/19


Robert:

You are wrong and relying (under error) in your imperfect human discernment: Read GOD'S WORD and the best example of that painful feeling and suffering is from THE LORD that being GOD - HE BY HIS MOST SUBLIME AND AGAPE LOVE - voluntarily allowed HIMSELF to suffer and feel under the flesh as us humans do and so in agony HE cried unto GOD THE FATHER: "FATHER, FATHER, why has you forsaken ME"? - What HE went through was THE SO PRECIOUS PRIZE that HE paid for our sins . . . and ourselves we were made sensitive in emotions and feelings and because of that the painful trials and tribulations that we all go thru brings depression, sadness discouragement, anxiety - robots we aren't!
---Melody on 3/8/19


Steveng:

Paul ask and wasn't healed, Timothy wasn't healed, Moses wasn't healed, and Trophimus wasn't healed...

Yes, we can ask,however, we must do with knowing that God is sovereign over his promises and the greatest healing on earth is Spiritual Healing and one day heaven is the ultimate healing...
---john9346 on 3/7/19


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Axe:

I don't shoot accusations to anyone and just replying as I read carefully what your writings say! . . .
(Re-read it again yourself as your words clearly are in the defense of cultic beliefs and against THE SCRIPTURES and that according to your words, that it my be the possibility of them being part of THE SCRIPTURES - it tells what's your purpose is here - and that: To bring arguments against what it is true Christianity and THE BIBLE - may THE LORD open up your eyes - in order to come to THE TRUTH and not in the ambivalent spiritual and denial state where you are: Foolishness is for man to strive against GOD'S SOVEREIGNITY - repent now and avoid GOD'S REBUKE!
---Melody on 3/7/19


Cluny wrote: "Are the people here to assume that you never go to doctors, Steveng?"

If I told you the truth, you wouldn't believe me anyway, but would make some kind of snide remark as usual.


john9346 wrote: "Yes, God can heal,however, it doesn't mean it is always his will to heal 2 Cor 12:7-10."

Jesus said many times to ask and it shall be given to you. He mentions this without any conditions except to have faith.

Mark 11:24
Matthew 7:7
Matthew 21:22
John 14:13-14
John 15:7
John 16:24

Even God says this...
1 Kings 3:5
Psalms 37:4
---Steveng on 3/7/19


how do you know pastors don't know depression. but for me depression was a choice, and it did not help i drank a lot. but you have to grow from being put down, and choose Jesus. i think most depression , if not all, is a choice, a personal problem if you will.
---tim on 3/7/19


mike, most pastors whom I know do NOT live in bubbles.

Nor have I heard an Orthodox priest to beg for money from the pulpit.

But I don't know your experience that has led you to such a worm's eye view of churches.

Maybe you've been going to the wrong ones?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/6/19


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cluny - chemical imbalance? really...My father is verbally abusive. we lived in an atmosphere of fear, shame, blame guilt. almost everyday we were abused even at the dinner or lunch table. love is conditional based on performance & approval. i developed trauma both emotional & psychological. is that chemical imbalance? then christianity will add more dung like 'you sinned' or you aren't a christian bec. you did not give 10% same guilt shame blame. many children came out of trauma or abuse & a quick fix are 'drugs' or prayer or christianity esp. give your money & god will heal your depression. you are a human dog cluny no compassion
---mike on 3/6/19


Steveng,

Yes, God can heal,however, it doesn't mean it is always his will to heal 2 Cor 12:7-10.
---john9346 on 3/6/19


david - I also suffered from depression in the past & when I went for 'BIBLICAL' help & asked a pastor, I was 'given snake when asking for fish'. another thing is 'psychology' is NOT BIBLICAL bec. SELF is SIN. don't go to the church for advice especially pastors bec pastors ARE STUPID. they do not know the dung of LIFE. they beg money every sunday that's why they live in a bubble, don't know the struggles of people like you & me. you will be accused of committing SIN or not a christian bec you are struggling & you will have MORE problems than 'solutions'
---mike on 3/6/19


\\These are the people that have the knowledge of God, but deny his power. God CAN heal any ailment you may have.\\

And 98% of the time, God works through normal means, such as physicians and medicines.

I take my meds with an attitude both of obedience to God's will and thanksgiving for the provision He has made for me.

Are the people here to assume that you never go to doctors, Steveng?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/5/19


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steveng: Many on this site say it is a "chemical imbalance." And believe that man's medicines will cure you.//

I am one and I KNOW because I seen it in my profession.

I seen Bipolar people so bad they are hospitalized. AFTER a series of Lithium given they are well.

If medication is given with good results it isn't called a miracle (expect that God gave us knowledge in making the drug).

//God CAN heal any ailment you may have.//

What? God CAN'T use man in healings?

//For the nonchristian and weak christian, God created natural plants for our medicines. Ezekiel 47:12//

That's ISN'T what that Scripture states!

Read the WHOLE BOOK of Ezekiel to understand chapter 47
---Nicole_Lacey on 3/5/19


Many on this site say it is a "chemical imbalance." And believe that man's medicines will cure you. These are the people that have the knowledge of God, but deny his power. God CAN heal any ailment you may have.

For the nonchristian and weak christian, God created natural plants for our medicines. Ezekiel 47:12

All what is needed is faith in God through Jesus. Romans 5:1-2

Your faith has healed you.
Mark 5:34
Mark 10:52
Luke 8:48
Luke 17:19
Luke 18:42
Matthew 9:22

So find your peace and a merry heart in God through Jesus. Proverbs 17:22

If your faith is weak, begin your research for natural plants that heal at "naturalnews."
---Steveng on 3/4/19


"I have suffered some depressions and some excitement exiting them." Pro 13:12-Hope deferred makes the heart sick: but when the desire comes, it is a tree of life. "I believe all addictions are a personal problem." Jer 18:12 - And they said, There is no hope: but we will walk after our own devices, and we will every one do the imagination of his evil heart. "How do I get Biblical help?" By believing what is written, for example Isa 35 :3-Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence, he will come and save you. Shall not God avenge his own elect, ...I tell you that he will avenge them speedily.
---josef on 3/4/19


Tim, some depression is clinical depression. This is a chemical imbalance, not a spiritual or moral failure, and can be treated by proper medication.

There are great saints and martyrs who suffered from this (what was called involutional melancholia 100 years ago) and were still great blessings to other people.

Also, some illnesses have depression as a symptom until the underlying disease is treated.

In the meantime, God is always with you during your sad periods. Make a personal and audible act of faith, and pray that your emotions will catch up with what you know to be the truth.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/4/19


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Depression can also be a chemical imbalance as well.

But what do you mean by addiction when you speak of depression?

If you are having excitement and depressions (ups and downs) you might be bipolar (manic depression)

Please go to a doctor.
---Nicole_Lacey on 3/4/19


Read from the Book of Psalms daily you will know depression is not from God, but from satan. Psalms will free you of depression and fill you up with the Joy of knowing the Gifts of God are with you always.
---Robert on 3/4/19


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