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Not A Church Member

Some people claim they can be Christians w/o being a member of a church.

Can you imagine someone saying, "David, I want you to be my personal king, and I want to have a personal relationship with you, but I don't want to have anything to do with your kingdom, much less be a part of it."

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John 3:16 (KJV)
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

To add anything to what God requires for salvation is to make salvation "grace + works"

(To require church membership is adding works to gain salvation.) Personally, I think church membership is important for Christian fellowship, Christian education, Christian worship, and others things, it is not a requirement for salvation.
---WIVV on 12/15/21


God made peace through the blood of the Cross.....not to be confused with philosophical peace, love, dove, snorting crystals up your nose new age whatever.

Jesus said he came to bring a sword, not peace. Matthew 10:34.

Worldly thinking is simply that...worldly thinking. Seeing Socraties did not have the mind of Christ, nor could he have, as only those AFTER JESUS DEATH AND RESURRECTION can, we come to understand why Paul said philosophy was of the rudiments OF THIS WORLD and not after Christ, therefore irrelevant to serious Christians .

Worldly philosophy. Score 666
The mind of Christ...Score 777
---kathr4453 on 12/11/21


The whole point in telling you about "Aeropagus" was that in order to be Godly, (love GOD OF PEACE), you must have a personal philosophy of peace. A persons' personal philosophy (IDEOLOGY) is sometimes referred to as RELIGION (even Jesus used that word). As a result of Socrates teaching, the Athenians were very civilized/righteous (how's that for secular philosophy?).

THE Aeropagus has been preserved as a tourist attraction (look it up in an encyclopedia/wikipedia)....God had many people provide free research resources so we could discover TRUTH (USE THEM).

The brass plaque on the modern tourist attraction contains ONLY Paul's speech IN GREEK. To read it in ENGLISH, read Acts 7:16.

Are you proud of brother Paul?
---more_excellent_way on 12/11/21


Whether Paul taught philosophy before his conversion is up for debate, but we know he taught the LAW. He was a PHARISEE, not a philosopher. But that being said, he may have used his understanding of philosophers at Mars Hill. Socrates did not preach Christ.

And we see after Paul's conversion Paul gives his testimony Philippians 3, that ALL THAT BEFORE HIS CONVERSION he considered dung. It's proven in Colossians 2:8 how he felt about philosophy after he was saved.

Why would you EVENTUALLY lead away from The Way International when that's never been an issue here in the first place? I simply asked YOU if YOU were part of their ministry. I doubt anyone here has ever heard of them.
---kathr4453 on 12/11/21


This was not Socrates philosophy. Paul didn't teach us to put our faith in philosophy and vain deceit.

Philippians 3:10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death,11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
---kathr4453 on 12/10/21




I was going to eventually warn you away from "THE WAY INTERNATIONAL". YES I AM THE 'more excellent way' that has been here for years.

If you would rather not believe anything I've written, then simply don't.

WHAT I WRITE is true. (you may have a different philosophy/preference than mine).

Socrates got arrested and put to death for teaching GOOD proper/peaceful, and civilized righteous living to the youth of Athens. Centuries later, Apostle Paul spoke the ATHENIANS at their AREOPAGUS.

...very famous speech, but it is NOT TAUGHT by the CHRISTIAN teachers.......Only read more about it if YOU want to learn for YOUR intellect/understanding.....PAUL had the same philosophy as SOCRATES and the Athenians.
---more_excellent_way on 12/10/21


More-excellent - way, please answer this question. Are you a part of 'THE WAY INTERNATIONAL '? I just see you using the term 'the Way' in your posts. I think it's only fair to ask where your comments and teachings come from. You are vague in many posts leaving the impression you don't believe in the deity of Christ.

What is your statement of faith in a nutshell.

1) Do you believe in the Deity of Christ?

2) are you the original ' more-excellent-way' or did you assume this person's ID ? I've been here almost 20 years. So be honest please.
---kathr4453 on 12/9/21


It is important that the modern Body of CHRIST(Moses chose to suffer for the CHRIST) realize that we are SONS NOT SERVANTS.

Acts 19:9 About that time there arose no little stir concerning the Way.

Act 24:22

But Felix, having a rather accurate knowledge of the Way,


God saw this "evangelical nationalism" coming long ago and prepared many people to take notice of it and sound the alarm


Jesus THE CHRIST (some apostles were unsure which Jesus was THE CHRIST/Savior) described/defined Himself as....THE WAY, the TRUTH, and also THE real life.

Of course, we are SONS by choice only if we choose not to be servants and don't want God to be a "MASTER" (then we are PREDESTINED).
---more_excellent_way on 12/8/21


The disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.

These were/are followers of Jesus Christ, (GOD IN THE FLESH.). And only those IN CHRIST are sons because we have been begotten THROUGH JESUS CHRIST.

We are members of HIS BODY, called THE CHURCH OF THE FIRSTBORN. Our new birth came THROUGH JESUS CHRIST, who is Head of the body THE CHURCH.

No hidden mystery here. It's all clearly laid out in scripture.
---kathr4453 on 12/8/21


Don't be a member of a CHURCH, be a member of GOD (be a SON of His).

In Acts 9:2, Saul persecuted the first Jesus-lovers (not called "Christians").

....members of THE WAY were by faith literally members of the son who hung on the cross (Jesus was only the first son to be born and was actually BEGOTTEN from the FATHERS loins).

...the word "Christians"/plural is in scripture only this ONCE, and the word as singular is in scripture TWICE.
---more_excellent_way on 12/4/21




The "minute" you add any condition to being a Christian, you are guilty of "law-works". This means salvation is not by faith alone, but if you also have to do something besides accept Christ as Savior, you have added a work to God's grace. (Personally, I like going to church, but it's not required.)
---wivv on 10/15/19



Church attendance isn't an necessity for salvation.
When we trust in the gospel and are saved, we are placed into the boC, which is the church (1 Cor 12:13, Col 1:24).
We are the church members of the church, the boC, having a special standing distinct from the other churches. We don't have to go to a temple to worship God because we are the temple.
The Bible says that he purchased YOU with a price, and that YOU are the temple of the Holy Ghost (1 Cor 6:19-20). Wherever you are, the church is. That is why we are to glorify God in our body because God dwells in us, and so within us there is a church service happening 24 hours a day! (Col 1:25, 1 Cor 3:16, Eph 3:17)
---michael_e on 7/27/19


michael e, in Tudor diction, YOU is second person plural, not singular.

When you are born the first time, you are not born into general humanity, but into a particular family.

Need I explain to you what follows?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/26/19


Church attendance isn't an necessity for salvation.
When we trust in the gospel and are saved, we are placed into the boC, which is the church (1 Cor 12:13, Col 1:24).
We are the church members of the church, the boC, having a special standing distinct from the other churches. We don't have to go to a temple to worship God because we are the temple.
The Bible says that he purchased YOU with a price, and that YOU are the temple of the Holy Ghost (1 Cor 6:19-20). Wherever you are, the church is. That is why we are to glorify God in our body because God dwells in us, and so within us there is a church service happening 24 hours a day! (Col 1:25, 1 Cor 3:16, Eph 3:17)
---michael_e on 7/25/19


StrongAxe: If a pastor or evangelist lives in a huge mansion and owns a fleet of limousines and several yachts and jets//

Can you name these Pastors.

A bit much don't you think?
---Nicole_Lacey on 5/26/19


Cluny:

Jesus said, "by their fruits you shall know them". If a pastor or evangelist lives in a huge mansion and owns a fleet of limousines and several yachts and jets, yet many of his followers live in abject poverty, it's fairly easy to correctly conclude that he cares more about himself than about them.
---StrongAxe on 4/16/19


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\\I am 100% sure that the pastor does NOT know or does NOT care about the 'member'\\

How are you so sure, mike?

Or are we supposed to think that God revealed it to you?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/16/19


membership of the church - no wonder there are 'mega churches' & 'megapastors' who love their CEO president titles earning millions of $$$ bec. the believer are made to believe in 'membership'. guess what the 'megapastors' DO act like & behave like CEOs.
---mike on 4/16/19


there are many members of the church but what is the real intention of the pastor? the size of the congregation & the money. I am 100% sure that the pastor does NOT know or does NOT care about the 'member' who does the ritual every 'sunday' he does NOT even know the name. it is the other way around. churches today are just business for profit. they would utter the word 'JESUS' 'grace' & at the end of the day, you are just another unknown 'member' the pastor makes money from.
---mike on 4/15/19


Cluny:

The Church is not the Kingdom of God. It is only a part of the Kingdom of God. Also, being a Christians means being a member of "THE Church", not necessarily being a member of "A church".

Paul was an itinerant preacher, and wasn't a "member" of any of the churches he visited, but that doesn't mean he wasn't a Christian.
---StrongAxe on 4/12/19


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not a member of a church? the church will not save a soul - christ will. being in a group or the teaching of the majority is NOT always right. beware of false teaching.
---mike on 4/11/19


\\Please take your time to meditate on what you are going to write, for by your sayings - what you are doing is, offending THE LORD'S POWER to work in different situations, groups and individuals: \\

Take your own advice, Melody.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/11/19


\\You are openly judging most Christians\\

So do you, Melody.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/10/19


Steve:

Please take your time to meditate on what you are going to write, for by your sayings - what you are doing is, offending THE LORD'S POWER to work in different situations, groups and individuals: What does it mean to you, when THE LORD by demonstrating that HE IS THE GREAT "I AM" - brought the multitudes to recognize HIS DIETY? - and at the same time - HE also blessed those that were gather in small groups and imparted individual healing and miracles? - and yes! - in front of the Pharisees that under their hatred - seeing that, they were more infuriated to persecute HIM (for under the possession of their 'hypocritical/wicked/ religious spirit' couldn't accept GOD'S GIFT OF SALVATION = THE LORD JESUS CHRIST!
---Melody on 4/10/19


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Steven:

You are openly judging most Christians - just because we attend Christian Services when many are gathered - and not just two or three like you mention: Who are you to judge every Denominational Church, their Ministries and their Congregation? - it's true than in every church (and I'm referring to the Christian Congregations where THE LORD and HIS WORD are reverenced and honored) - it could be found to have truly committed Christians and others that aren't, but that doesn't give you the right to say that all of them have 'man-made rituals and traditions' -and those who attend (like myself) 'they have the knowledge of GOD, but deny THE POWER' - hope that you'll recognize your offensive false testimony against many and repent!
---Melody on 4/10/19


All Christians are members of one true church, simply known as the Body of Christ.
We are saved from sin and death when we trust in the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross and his bodily resurrection. His sinless blood pays for our sins, earns forgiveness, and gives us eternal life.
Salvation is the gift of God by grace. It is not a product of Popes water baptism, confession, good works, church membership.
---michael_e on 4/9/19


Melody wrote: "Of course, the reason that we attend the Christian Services..."

Christians who attend denominational "church" services are nothing more than hearers of the Word. they have the knowledge of God, but deny his power. In a denominational "church" service one is burdened by man-made rituals and traditions. Attending these services are impersonable.

When christians truly assemble is when two or more are gathered. It could be a park, a cafe, or even one's home. Small groups who meet daily as commanded mature and grow in Christ because they are a small knit "family." They are accountable to one another. They truly show love among each other.

---Steveng on 4/9/19


_ What is CHRIST Church? _

Those who have being redeemed by THE LORD'S PRECIOUS BLOOD AND BY HIS SPIRIT have become CHRIST Body: As GOD'S WORD says: "Where two or three are gathered in MY NAME - I AM"!

Of course, the reason that we attend the Christian Services is in the admonition from THE LORD to us: "Not to forsake being in fellowship with other Christians" - and to keep on receiving The Guidance, Fortitude and increasing spiritual maturity as we listen to GOD'S WORD and in communion with others Brothers and Sisters to worship our LORD JESUS CHRIST in SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH!
---Melody on 4/8/19


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The ultimate commandment is Love, as in the verb form. One does not need to be a member of a denominational "church" to practice love as evidenced in the second resurrection. Sure, denominational christians can define love, but rarely know how to put it to use. They know who God is, but deny his power.

Today, love has practically evaporated from the face of this world.
---Steveng on 4/8/19


God's Kingdom cannot be found in a church. His Kingdom is in the Spiritual Realm not in a physical church building. John 17:14-26.

Jesus preached on the mountains, from boats and in the villages and towns. The few times He taught in the synagogue He was persecuted and the leaders sought to kill Him. John 7:14-32.

The churches are the same today. Should Jesus walk in, they wouldn't recognize or acknowledge Him as teaching the Truth. I want to be a member of the Kingdom where Jesus, Himself laid the foundation. Matt 21:33-46.

---barb on 4/8/19


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