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Will angels and people suffer in hell for the rest of eternity? For ever?

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mike:

Steveng was the one who talked about "dogmas of a denomination" - Cluny was just quoting him to challenge that statement (exactly as you are doing, but at least he's challenging the right person).

Please state EXACTLY which "Word or commandment of God" that Cluny calls "dogmas of a denomination". Please state EXACTLY how Cluny "rejected and mocked" the commandment and word of God. If you make accusations, you have to be able to back them up.
---StrongAxe on 4/18/19


cluny said 'burdened by your denomination's dogma, traditions and rituals that you, having a very narrow mindset based upon your denomination'

Mark 7:9 - And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. this is what Christ said.

obviously, cluny does not know the difference between the Word or commandment of God but call them the dogmas of a 'denomination' & yet he obeys man than God, then leaves 'Glory to christ'. how many time has cluny REJECTED & mocks the commandment & word of God.
the Holy spirit rejects the flesh not the commandment of God. even Peter said 'obey God not man'
---mike on 4/18/19


to cluny here is a great verse for you

Genesis 3:4-
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
---mike on 4/18/19


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Many of you who bicker about whose "church" is better are so heavily burdened by your denomination's dogma, traditions and rituals that you, having a very narrow mindset based upon your denomination, makes it very difficult to connect to the Holy Spirit. \\

Steveng, you're exactly the same way.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/18/19


Many of you who bicker about whose "church" is better are so heavily burdened by your denomination's dogma, traditions and rituals that you, having a very narrow mindset based upon your denomination, makes it very difficult to connect to the Holy Spirit. It must be very scary for you and others to lose your denominational identity, your false sense of comfort.

Cluny, Strongaxe, instead of repeatedly attacking mike that he's wrong, why not "enlighten" him who your worldly denominational leaders are?

cluny, as for your tag at the end of your posts read Matthew 7:21-23.
---Steveng on 4/18/19




mike, do you think that the Pope is the one who changed the worship day from Saturday to Sunday?

If so, please tell me WHICH pope did so, WHEN, and HOW did he make it stick.

If I have misunderstood you, forgive me, and then explain why you keep up bringing the pope to me.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/17/19


mike:

You wrote: cluny - your favorite verse is what the serpent said in the garden - 'you will not die, you will be like God knowing what is good & evil'. disobedience because you are the one who thinks you are God defining what is good or what is evil'

How could you possibly know what Cluny's favorite verse is? Again, you are totally making things up about people, and then accusing them of it. Do you know what that's called? It's called "bearing false witness". I seem to recall that there's a commandment against that in the Bible somewhere. Perhaps you've heard of it.
---StrongAxe on 4/17/19


cluny: "If hell doesn't last forever, then heaven doesn't either."

Why not? By your logic, Sodom and Gomorrha are still burning today, as:

Jud 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of ETERNAL FIRE.

Do you really believe that they are still burning? I couldn't spot the fires on Google Earth.


---jerry6593 on 4/18/19


mike:

You wrote: it's obvious who you really are obeying. for you glory to the pope not the word of God.

Why do you keep mentioning the Pope? How many times does Cluny have to say that he's Orthodox AND NOT CATHOLIC for people to understand that?

How can you possibly argue against what people say, when you don't even LISTEN to what they say in the first place?
---StrongAxe on 4/17/19


\\for you glory to the pope not the word of God.
---mike on 4/17/19\\

mike, don't you understand that I am NOT a Roman Catholic?

Why do you keep on dragging the pope into your reproaches against me?

And NOWHERE does the Bible say, "Glory to the word of God."

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/17/19




cluny - your favorite verse is what the serpent said in the garden - 'you will not die, you will be like God knowing what is good & evil'. disobedience because you are the one who thinks you are God defining what is good or what is evil'

again 'glory to the pope' not christ cluny
---mike on 4/17/19


cluny - of course your source of information is man the pope & not the bible. that is why you 'glorify the pope not christ & his word or commandment'

ouch
---mike on 4/17/19


cluny - that is what the bible says. it's obvious who you really are obeying.

for you glory to the pope not the word of God.
---mike on 4/17/19


\\ the wicked shall BURN UP that it shall leave neither root nor branch...for they shall be ASHES. \\

If this happens on earth, as the SDAs teach, who is going to clean up the mess, mike?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/17/19


mike:

You wrote: lucifer broke Commandment 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.

When did Lucifer break the Sabbath? When did Lucifer commit adultery? When did Lucifer covet his neighbor's wife? If you're going to be specific and accuse someone of breaking sins by specifically calling them all out, you need to be sure there is specific evidence of each of those sins.

Yes, Lucifer is guilty of many things, but not necessarily everything you accused him of.
---StrongAxe on 4/16/19


\\glory to the pope cluny.
---mike on 4/16/19\\

Why do you keep on saying that, mike?

I'm really bewildered by it.

Can you please explain?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/16/19


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john9346 - exactly john. lucifer rebelled & wants to be God until today. so what Law did lucifer break when he said 'I will be like the MOST HIGH' I will ascend above the throne of God. lucifer broke Commandment 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.
For Sin is the transgression of the Law of God.

glory to the pope cluny.
---mike on 4/16/19


"And the devil that deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet and shall be tormented day and night forever and ever". Revelation 20: 10 . . .

"The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of GOD, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of HIS INDIGNATION: And he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in THE PRESENCE OF THE LAMB".

"And the smoke of their torment ascended up forever and ever, and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever received the mark of his name". Revelation 14: 10,11
---Melody on 4/16/19


No...Ezekiel 28:18 - therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, IT SHALL DEVOUR THEE & I will bring to ASHES upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

God will destroy the wicked. that is why God said 'there will be NO MORE SIN.'
people suffer for the rest of eternity is another fear tactic.

Malachi 4:1-3 .'For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven, and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up... BURN UP not BURNING.
---mike on 4/16/19


cluny - hell is made for the devil not for the sinner. before SIN or lucifer's rebellion, there was no HELL but heaven existed before. does that make hell eternal? NO. the bible say there is a second death that is FINAL from which there will be NO RESURRECTION. the wicked shall BURN UP that it shall leave neither root nor branch...for they shall be ASHES.
---mike on 4/16/19


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Steveng:

Yes, God is just sinners have broken God's Law and what happens if you break the law?? think about it...
---john9346 on 4/16/19


"Will angels and people suffer in hell for the rest of eternity?" No. 1Co 15:26 "The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death". With death destroyed, there will be no need for the grave. Rev 20:14 "And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death".
---joseph on 4/15/19


If hell doesn't last forever, then heaven doesn't either.

The same words are used to describe the duration of both.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/14/19


No!

Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone

Mal 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven, and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

Mal 4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked, for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.


---jerry6593 on 4/15/19


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