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Cluny, what's it about? Why you think we should read it?
---JS1234 on 7/12/19


john9346:

You constantly choke on the gnat of Sola Scriptura, but the question is - why? When we look at what the Bible says about how we are to be saved, it always says that we must believe in Jesus, we must trust Jesus, we must obey Jesus. It doesn't say we must believe in the Bible, we must trust the Bible, we must obey the Bible.
---StrongAxe on 7/12/19


JS, and anyone else who is interested, you can probably download THE RIVER OF FIRE for free.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/12/19


Cluny, oh sorry. I saw it on Amazon.
---JS1234 on 7/11/19


JS, RIVER OF FIRE was not written by Sr. Helen.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/11/19




john934* Listen to him:

"" For even creation revels Him who formed it... The Universal Church, moreover, through the whole world, has received this tradition from the Apostles...SINCERELY Irenaeus

" But continue thou' as St Paul says ' in those things which tho has learned..hold fast the faith ...establishing the tradition of the church as a foundation.. yours truly Cyril
---Ruben on 7/11/19


Cluny, I'm sure it will be fascinating. She has worked so hard against the death penalty all these years.
---JS1234 on 7/10/19


JS, after you read it, tell me what you think about it.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/10/19


Cluny, River of Fire looks good. I really do like Sr Helen Prejean.
---JS1234 on 7/10/19


john9346* reuben:

Irenaeus could write this because those who would reject are rejecting the tradition that for Irenaeus was Scripture.

Irenaeus believed in baptismal regeneration infant baptism the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist the Mass as a sacrifice.


Reuben:

What did Cyril tell you to do about his teachings?

john934* Listen to him:

"" Do not then believe me because I tell thee these things, unless thou receive from the Holy Scriptures...

We give thanks to God, the Saviour of the world, rejoicing with one another that our Churches , both ours and yours, hold a faith in accordance with the divinely inspired Scriptures and with the tradition of our holy Fathers.
---Ruben on 7/9/19




\\Cluny, so true, hell being what we inflict on each other and ourselves through our sins.
---JS1234 on 7/9/19\\

You might want to read THE RIVER OF FIRE, available on line.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/9/19


Isaiah 66:16 - For by fire and by the sword will the Lord plead with all flesh: and the slain of the Lord shall be many.

( The thing is Judgment is coming and the fact is ,the wicked will be destroy. and there no escaping that. )

Isaiah 46:10 - Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that not yet done, saying my counsel shall stand, and I will do all of my pleasure,
---RichardC on 7/9/19


\\Jesus did not come to save us from hell. He came to save us from our sins.\\

I see no contradiction. They are two parts of the same thing.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/9/19

Cluny, so true, hell being what we inflict on each other and ourselves through our sins.
---JS1234 on 7/9/19


\\Jesus did not come to save us from hell. He came to save us from our sins.\\

I see no contradiction. They are two parts of the same thing.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/9/19


John9346, do you think that God the Father is filled with bloodlust like some Oriental tyrant? The Apostle John says that God is love. If God is love, then He is patient and kind, He does not envy or boast, He is not arrogant or rude. He does not insist on its own way, He is not irritable or resentful, He does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices in truth. (1 Corinthians 13)
---JS1234 on 7/8/19


js1234 said, "
Jesus did not come to save us from hell. He came to save us from our sins."

Is that true???
And what does sin lead to what is the result of one not repenting of sin ever read Jn 3:36? Lk 16:19-31? 2 Thes 1:8-9? Rev 20:11-15 and Rom 6:23?
---john9346 on 7/8/19


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Js1234 said, "
If God is so filled with wrath, how is it that Jesus asked his Father to forgive the people who crucified him, even though they had not even asked for forgiveness?"

Good question:

1. Because those who were crucifying him didn't realize Christ was satisfying the Wrath ofGod in their place.

See, 1 Cor 2:8

2. God's Wrath is on all those who will not repent see, Jn 3:36, and 2 Thes 1:8- Rev 21:8-9.9
---john9346 on 7/8/19


john9346:

Did I ever say God wasn't holy or I wasn't a sinner?

Why are you quoting "Christian Converts Tract 101" to me, as if I have never been exposed to Christian theology before? I have been a Christian for almost 43 years (and that is totally separate from having been raised in a Catholic environment since birth).

From your post, it seems as if you somehow think I am guilty of some particular sin of which I have not repented of. What sin would that be? What "world view" do I need to abandon?

Why did you feel the need to post the same message three times?

(Also, if John wrote "Jesus said 'X'", Jesus said it, but John wrote it.)
---StrongAxe on 7/8/19


\\Plead with God to show you mercy and to save you from his wrath on you.


John
---john9346 on 7/8/19\\

Take your own advice, john.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/8/19


Jesus did not come to save us from hell. He came to save us from our sins.
---JS1234 on 7/8/19


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If God is so filled with wrath, how is it that Jesus asked his Father to forgive the people who crucified him, even though they had not even asked for forgiveness?
---JS1234 on 7/8/19


strongaxe:

The bible says God your creator is holy, righteous, just, and pure.

The bible says you are a sinner who have committed sin against God.

Have you ever told a lie??? looked with lust on a woman??? stolen??? been disobedient to your parents??? have you always loved God perfectly???

The bible says The Lord Jesus Christ who is God took on Human Flesh is the only one who lived a perfect and sinless life and is the only way to be reconciled to God...

The bible commands you to repent/turn from your sin today my friend and trust Christ alone to save you from his wrath of Eternal Hell against you a sinner...

Plead with God to show you mercy and to save you from his wrath on you.


John
---john9346 on 7/8/19


strongaxe:

The bible says God your creator is holy, righteous, just, and pure.

The bible says you are a sinner who have committed sin against God.

Have you ever told a lie??? looked with lust on a woman??? stolen??? been disobedient to your parents??? have you always loved God perfectly???

The bible says The Lord Jesus Christ who is God took on Human Flesh is the only one who lived a perfect and sinless life and is the only way to be reconciled to God...

The bible commands you to repent/turn from your sin today my friend and trust Christ alone to save you from his wrath of Eternal Hell against you a sinner...

Plead with God to show you mercy and to save you from his wrath...



John
---john9346 on 7/8/19


Cluny,

The bible says God your creator is holy, righteous, just, and pure.

The bible says you are a sinner who have committed sin against God.

Have you ever told a lie??? looked with lust on a woman??? stolen??? been disobedient to your parents??? have you always loved God perfectly???

The bible says The Lord Jesus Christ who is God took on Human Flesh is the only one who lived a perfect and sinless life and is the only way to be reconciled to God...

The bible commands you to repent/turn from your sin today my friend and trust Christ alone to save you from his wrath of Eternal Hell against you a sinner...

Plead with God to show you mercy and to save you from his wrath...


John
---john9346 on 7/8/19


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John9346, yes, of course. Jesus is being quoted by the person writing about him.
---JS1234 on 7/8/19


\\
Again, What did Justin Clement, polycarp Ignatius, etc. say about it then you'll have your answer.\\

The NT was still being codified when they flourished.

And can you tell me just how "Jesus said" means "Jesus wrote"?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/8/19


js1234 said, "I am just curious, where does the Bible say Jesus wrote any of it? I can't seem to find any reference to that in my Bible."

Sir, have you read the gospel that state, "Jesus said, Jesus said, Jesus said?
---john9346 on 7/7/19


strongaxe said, "You still haven't told me how YOU can know John is scripture and Laodiceans is not."

Sir, Read the postings i've posted here for you they have your answer if your willing to abandon the world view you hold, but your worlrd view has a deep sway over you...

In your own writings on the postings you demonstrated to all that you don't know what is Sola Scriptura. Remember, you thought canon was the Nature of Scripture and the Nature of Scripture was canon. Its illogical to attack what you have no knowledge of???
---john9346 on 7/7/19


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cluny said, "john, do you think that the original ms of each book came with an annotation saying, "This belongs in the Bible" or words to that effect?"

Again, What did Justin Clement, polycarp Ignatius, etc. say about it then you'll have your answer.

Cluny, have you actually read the fathers you claim to represent in faith???

So, the readers will know I posted postings from prior discussions where both strongaxe and cluny were clearly repudiated on these same old tired and worn out arguemtns with no basis are support :-)
---john9346 on 7/7/19


john9346:

Yes. Exactly. I do not believe in Sola Scriptura, because Sola Scriptura is, itself, a logical contradiction, for the reasons I have mentioned frequently elsewher.

"Rejecting biblical sufficiency" is NOT the same as "rejecting the Bible" - a false equivalence that you keep making. That's like saying if you think a steak doesn't have 100% of your daily nutrients, you should never eat it at all, which is absurd.

If the Bible gave us everything we needed, we would have no need to pray, or go to church, or seek the counsel of others.

You still haven't told me how YOU can know John is scripture and Laodiceans is not.
---StrongAxe on 7/6/19


\\"In ALL of these, the decision of WHICH books are scripture comes from decision making processes OUTSIDE OF SCRIPTURE."

Proove it cite source or church father?
---john9346 on 7/4/19\\

john, do you think that the original ms of each book came with an annotation saying, "This belongs in the Bible" or words to that effect?

Or do you think a list floated down from heaven?

Just how was this determined? Can you tell us?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/5/19


I am just curious, where does the Bible say Jesus wrote any of it? I can't seem to find any reference to that in my Bible.
---JS1234 on 7/5/19


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strongaxe:

If you say as you do that Jesus didn't write Scripture and the apostles cant be trusted then you are indeed rejecting Biblical Sufficiency...
---john9346 on 7/5/19


strongaxe:

"
There is no record of Jesus writing ANYTHING except doodles in the sand near the woman taken in adultery."

Tell me, where did you learn that Jesus did this who told you?

"In ALL of these, the decision of WHICH books are scripture comes from decision making processes OUTSIDE OF SCRIPTURE."

Proove it cite source or church father?
---john9346 on 7/4/19


"So, please tell me, what criteria YOU use that do not rely on ANY extra-scriptural sources."

Read the postings i've posted here for you they have your answer if your willing to abandon the world view you hold, but your worlrd view has a deep sway over you...
---john9346 on 7/4/19


cluny said, "john, you don't actually think that the Savior Himself put pen to parchment to write down Scripture, do you?"
See, postings already posted on this thread that have repuediated you....

What did Justin Clement, polycarp Ignatius, etc. say about it then you'll have your answer.

Cluny, have you actually read the fathers you claim to represent in faith???
---john9346 on 7/4/19


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StrongAxe: Now, based on party platforms, the labels have reversed.//

No, it's Democrats who have gotten severe in their thinking.

They had Black people as Slaves, now killing Black people via abortions

Did you know their motto was:

'My State, My Choice.' Of course no one asked the Slave his choice.

Today their motto is:

'My body, my choice.' AGAIN, no one asked the baby.

Kicked out God.

They have Antifa wearing mask and beating up people as their KKK did in the past. Wearing mask and beating up people.

//Reaganomics almost wiped out the middle class.//

Only Democrats believe the middle class are incapable controlling their own money. So, you'll hate middle class tax cuts.
---Nicole_Lacey on 7/4/19


john9346:

There is no record of Jesus writing ANYTHING except doodles in the sand near the woman taken in adultery.

How do *YOU* know Hosea and John are scripture, but Jubilees and Laodiceans are not? If "Others believe it", it depends on opinion of OTHERS. If "The Church aways believed it", it depends on the TRADITIONS of the church. If "One seems like scripture and another does not", it depends on YOUR interpretation. If "The Holy Spirit confirms", it depends on a gut feeling. In ALL of these, the decision of WHICH books are scripture comes from decision making processes OUTSIDE OF SCRIPTURE.

So, please tell me, what criteria YOU use that do not rely on ANY extra-scriptural sources.
---StrongAxe on 7/3/19


\\Sir, are you denying you never said that Jesus didn't write Scripture and we cant trust the authors yes or no?\\

john, you don't actually think that the Savior Himself put pen to parchment to write down Scripture, do you?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/2/19


reuben:

Irenaeus could write this because those who would reject are rejecting the tradition that for Irenaeus was Scripture.


Reuben:

What did Cyril tell you to do about his teachings?

Listen to him:
"" Do not then believe me because I tell thee these things, unless thou receive from the Holy Scriptures the proof of what is set forth: for this salvation, which is of our faith, is not by ingenious reasonings, but by proof from the Holy Scriptures."
---john9346 on 7/2/19


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strongaxe:

"The belief that scripture is uninspired? (Irrelevant, as I never said I believed it wasn't)."

Sir, are you denying you never said that Jesus didn't write Scripture and we cant trust the authors yes or no?

"The belief that the authority of scripture is derived from something that is, necessarily, outside of scripture."

Sir, you've never proove this and you never could state a singgle (just 1) church father who promoted this heresy, (its illogical to make statements with no proof) You once said that you're a scientist if so sir all i'm asking respectfully (use logic)

You've had a long time to give evidence and you haven't because you know you cant so why keep repeating???
---john9346 on 7/2/19


strongaxe said, "The belief that, since scripture itself depends on human authority OUTSIDE scripture, one cannot say our doctrines are based ENTIRELY on scripture, as the very canon of scripture is a doctrine that is not in scripture."

Listed below is a posting where you were corrected you actually thought the Nature of Scripture was canon and canonicity was the Nature of Scripture and yet you persist on arguing confusing Categorical Classification...

See posting, "Is Sola Scriptura a Theory listed here."

You keep persisting because of your World View that will not even allow you to recognize distinctins and differences...
---john9346 on 7/2/19


js1234:

Church Father Irenaeus said, ""We have learned from none others the plan of our salvation, than from those through whom the gospel has come down to us, which they did at one time proclaim in public, and, at a later period, by the will of God, handed down to us in the Scriptures, to be the ground and pillar of our faith."
---john9346 on 6/29/19

He continue on the next chapter

But, again, when we refer them to that tradition which originates from the apostles, and which is preserved by the means of the successions of presbyters in the churches, they object to tradition, saying that they themselves are wiser not merely than presbyters, but even than the apostles...
---Ruben on 7/2/19


Church Father Cyril of Jerusalem said, "" Do not then believe me because I tell thee these things, unless thou receive from the Holy Scriptures the proof of what is set forth: for this salvation, which is of our faith, is not by ingenious reasonings, but by proof from the Holy Scriptures."
---john9346 on 6/29/19

Really John- If you are claiming that he taught Sola Scriptura then you have a huge problem, his Catechetical Lectures are filled with teaching on the Mass as a sacrifice, prayers for the dead,the Real presence 0f Christ in the Eucharist and a whole array of specifically Catholic doctrines which YOU claim Scriptures does not contain!
---Ruben on 7/1/19


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john9346:

Which beliefs would you want me to withdraw, exactly?

The belief that scripture is uninspired? (Irrelevant, as I never said I believed it wasn't).

The belief that the authority of scripture is derived from something that is, necessarily, outside of scripture (e.g. the opinions of men who decided which books are scripture or not)? I can't, because that is obviously true. God did not hand us a Table of Contents.

The belief that, since scripture itself depends on human authority OUTSIDE scripture, one cannot say our doctrines are based ENTIRELY on scripture, as the very canon of scripture is a doctrine that is not in scripture.
---StrongAxe on 7/1/19


strongaxe:

First and above all sir I love you and care everything for your soul and pray for you regularly that you will become a Christian please neverforget that...

Next, you have taught me sir what you believe I actually listen more to you than you listen to yourself see postings about your beliefs.

Finally, if right here right now will you withdraw your beliefs since you don't like me repeating back to you your own beliefs conveyed in your world view yes or no?
---john9346 on 7/1/19


cluny said, "The Bible says the CHURCH of the living God is the pillar and ground of truth."

False here is the Word of the Lord, "but [k]in case I am delayed, I write so that you will know how [l]one ought to conduct himself in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and support of the truth."

The church is the pillar and supporter of the truth not the truth.

Btw, show us all where Clement, Justin, Polycarp, and Ignatius say as you've stated?
---john9346 on 7/1/19


\\handed down to us in the Scriptures, to be the ground and pillar of our faith."\\

The Bible says the CHURCH of the living God is the pillar and ground of truth.

Who is right, john?

BTW, ST. Cyril of Jerusalem, who you quoted, flourished in the 4th century, by which time the NT had been codified.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/30/19


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john9346:

You wrote: According to your World view the bible is just another book of literature not written by Jesus and cant trust any of the authors so why are you asking me a question that your World View will not allow you to accept sir think about it ok???

Why do YOU ask ME questions at all, since you don't listen to the whole of what I say, but rather only nitpick one word here or there? You don't talk to me to try to understand what I say. You only talk to me to find fault with me, so it is a waste of my time to try to feed your obsession with that.
---StrongAxe on 6/30/19


Cluny said, "Keep in mind that the NT was still being codified--and possibly even still being written==at the time of St. Ignatius and others john mentioned."

Proove this from their writings with chapter and paragraph?

Strongaxe:

According to your World view the bible is just another book of literature not written by Jesus and cant trust any of the authors so why are you asking me a question that your World View will not allow you to accept sir think about it ok???
---john9346 on 6/29/19
---john9346 on 6/30/19


One person says you have to earn God's love and the other person says you don't. This is so interesting to me.
---JS1234 on 6/30/19


Cluny, that's a good point.
---JS1234 on 6/29/19


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js1234 said, "John9346, I had no idea that the early church fathers taught sola scriptura."

Church Father Cyril of Jerusalem said, "" Do not then believe me because I tell thee these things, unless thou receive from the Holy Scriptures the proof of what is set forth: for this salvation, which is of our faith, is not by ingenious reasonings, but by proof from the Holy Scriptures."
---john9346 on 6/29/19


js1234:

Church Father Irenaeus said, ""We have learned from none others the plan of our salvation, than from those through whom the gospel has come down to us, which they did at one time proclaim in public, and, at a later period, by the will of God, handed down to us in the Scriptures, to be the ground and pillar of our faith."
---john9346 on 6/29/19


Cluny said, "Keep in mind that the NT was still being codified--and possibly even still being written==at the time of St. Ignatius and others john mentioned."

Proove this from their writings with chapter and paragraph?

Strongaxe:

According to your World view the bible is just another book of literature not written by Jesus and cant trust any of the authors so why are you asking me a question that your World View will not allow you to accept sir think about it ok???
---john9346 on 6/29/19


\\ John9346, I had no idea that the early church fathers taught sola scriptura. But if you say so, it must be true.
---JS1234 on 6/28/19\\

Keep in mind that the NT was still being codified--and possibly even still being written==at the time of St. Ignatius and others john mentioned.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/29/19


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John9346, I had no idea that the early church fathers taught sola scriptura. But if you say so, it must be true.
---JS1234 on 6/28/19


StrongAxe, the Shooter was CHARGED. This happened last December before the abortion law. FAKE MEDIA again.

The Shooter was charged and sent to jail immediately! The Grand Jury just released her Wednesday 6/26/19

The mother was indicted yesterday with manslaughter of her unborn baby because she was at fault.

She STARTED the fight over a man (baby's father). The other lady shot her in self defense.

I know you don't think unborn babies are human beings and don't deserve any rights. But in Alabama we don't think like you.

It wouldn't be any different if the mother had her one day old baby in HER ARMS and started a physical fight with other woman. Anyone with common sense knows the baby might get hurt or killed.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/28/19


john9346:

js1234 wrote: Is Sola Scriptura a Biblical Doctrine?

You wrote: Yes, and without it you have no Christianity or Judaism.

If so, where, exactly, does the Bible say that? Yes, it says scripture is profitable, but doesn't say it's the *ONLY* definitive source. In fact, reading the Bible itself shows exactly the opposite.

Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and even Moses had NO SCRIPTURES to work from whatsoever, yet they created Judaism.

The early New Testament church had ONLY the Old Testament to work with - the New Testament had not been written yet. ALL of their New Testament teachings came from teachings by Apostles and by word of mouth - all of was EXTRA-SCRIPTURAL, yet they created Christianity.
---StrongAxe on 6/29/19


js1234 said, "I'm just curious... Is Sola Scriptura a Biblical Doctrine?"

Yes, and without it you have no Christianity or Judaism.

I'm curious do you know what is the Doctrine of Sola Scriptura?
---john9346 on 6/28/19


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The Early Christians believed and practiced Sola Scriptura

Church Fathers such as Clement, Justin, Ignatius of Antioch, Polycarp all believed and taught Sola Scriptura...
---john9346 on 6/28/19


Cluny, that makes sense.
---JS1234 on 6/28/19


\\ I'm just curious... Is Sola Scriptura a Biblical Doctrine?
---JS1234 on 6/27/19\\

Not really.

Don't forget, the first generation or two of Christians did not have ONE WORD of the NT written down.

Therefore, they lived and believed according to what the apostles, and later what their bishops and presbyters told them.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/28/19


I'm just curious... Is Sola Scriptura a Biblical Doctrine?
---JS1234 on 6/27/19


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Samuel, you do realize that in several places, the Bible denies "sola scriptura," do you not?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/27/19


The term Sola Scriptura is to mean that the final authority in all matters of faith is the Bible.

That any doctrine contrary to scripture is false. Now that means a lot of people can say they are in accordance with scripture. But not all can be correct.

There is some points that are necessary. Jesus is our Savior is one. But Some points are unimportant. So we can disagree.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/27/19


john9346:

If Haz27 wants to know what I believe, he can read my posts. Or you can quote me exactly, word for word. I don't need you to "mansplain" what you think I believe, because you CONSTANTLY get it wrong.

I have repeatedly said that "Sola Scriptura" is not sufficient, because without sources OUTSIDE SCRIPTURE, we wouldn't even know what IS scripture, and what isn't. I NEVER said "I don't believe scripture", as you keep insisting.
---StrongAxe on 6/27/19


strongaxe said, "john9346:
Stop telling Haz27 what I do or don't believe, since you have no clue yourself what I do or don't believe."

There are many postings where you have stated your beliefs do you want me to post them?


cluny SAID, "Please quote the words where StrongAxe said these things."

SEE postings,

Prayer for Healing Posting,

How does God communicate.

IS Sola Scriptura a theory.

How to speak in tongues (2018)

The Original Scripture.

There are more but these will do for now...

You and Strongaxe seem to forget you've been on this blog for years you both have history of writing what you believe and expressing your World Views...
---john9346 on 6/26/19


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From The Hill (today): "Woman indicted for manslaughter after miscarrying when shot"

A pregnant woman in Alabama was shot in the stomach, and lost her baby. Was the shooter charged with manslaughter for the death of the child? No. THE MOTHER WAS. THIS is the insanity that is happening in Alabama today.
---StrongAxe on 6/26/19


Nicole_Lacey:

Why so medically precise? Invading barbarians (not surgeons with scalpels) would run people through with swords, cutting bellies open, spilling out guts. They weren't particular about just which parts spilled out. Dead is dead.

All of Hosea 13 is NOT about natural consequences of sin, but about God PERSONALLY punishing sin.

What is this about "hot stoves" and getting burned? Half your last message was entirely about that. What "power" did you have make a "stove" not burn me? That whole thing made no sense.

Also, read Businessinsider: "Women could get up to 30 years in prison for having a miscarriage under Georgia's harsh new abortion law"
---StrongAxe on 6/25/19


StrongAxe, I don't think you know what 'disemboweled' or 'disembowelment' means.

It's removing all the bowels from the mid to lower abdomen.

Hosea states their stomachs were ripped open.

//either because of a specific judgment of God made at that time, or as a consequence of natural law God instituted in the beginning. So which is it?//

NEIGHER!

It was a consequence of man's sins.

If I keep warning you not to touch the hot stove because it will burn you.

But you wish, want and choose to touch the hot stove.

Is it my fault that you got burned because I had the power to make the stove not burn you?

If I did that, how will you ever learn not to touch hot stuff?
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/24/19


StrongAxe: jerry6593: See: Trump's Racism: An Oral History The Atlantic//

Yes Jerry, please read the article. StrongAxe doesn't think people will read his citation.

Article's title: 'An Oral History of Trump's Bigotry'

It's suggesting the Trumps were guilty because a 'consent decree' was signed. Now the Justice Department are the ones who brought up the charges. So why settle?

BTM, EVERY racial complaint has to be addressed by the Justice Dept because the 'The Fair Housing Act' of 1968

We can't read the fine print paper of the charges or details. WHY?

Trump states 'He said that it did not require him to accept people on welfare'.

Maybe that's the reason. The NAACP sent Black people on welfare.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/8/19


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//(with Rapist Daddy having the right to visit for 18 years), or being executed.//

Rapist Daddy also as the obligation of supporting the child he begets until adulthood.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/6/19


StrongAxe: she has to PROVE that it wasn't an at-home abortion, or else she could go to prison.//

Mothers do not go to prison for having an abortion in Alabama.

Even if she does it to herself.

The one who aborts the baby (other than the mother of the baby) goes to prison for 99 years.

BTW, yes it is very strict to people killing innocent babies. What do you what? Probation?

Prison sentence should always match the severity of the crime.

//So teenage girls who get raped have a choice of being stuck with their rapist's child//

Hellooo, Adoption.

//(with Rapist Daddy having the right to visit for 18 years), or being executed.//

That why you all are called the Fake Media.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/2/19


StrongAxe,

***Back in 1998 and 1999, Trump worked with Jacksons Rainbow/PUSH coalition to help offer a way to get African Americans into corporate America and improve their communities through building projects and jobs. Jackson praised Trumps savvy business aplomb not once, but twice.

... Lets give Donald Trump a big hand," Jackson said at an event captured by C-SPAN cameras.

At another event a year later, Jackson introduced his "friend" and thanked Trump for giving blacks a "face" on Wall Street.

...Jackson also applauded Trumps "will to make things better" for the "underserved communities." - Daily Wire
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/1/19


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