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If a person is born in the USA, then no one, has the right to tell them to leave.

That does not mean that I agree with everyone's opinion about who should or should not live here.

With that in mind, I think that anyone who hates America should be allowed to leave (if they want to).

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Which Words by Jesus do you not believe?

Matthew 22:31-32

But concerning the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what God said to you: I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? He is NOT the God of the dead, but of the LIVING.
---Nicole_Lacey on 8/11/19

Here's Nicole's voice of reason why it's ok to pray to the dead, all the while as Jerry highly exalts Nicole's voice of reason. Talk about a double minded man unstable in ALL his ways. Gee Jerry, are you a multiple personality? With that, do you go by other names on CN?

It's things like this Jerry that many find you kind of a joke here.
---kathr4453 on 8/13/19


Colossians 3:2 - Set your mind on things above, not on thing of the earth.

Matthew 7:14 - Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and few who find it,
---RichardC on 8/12/19


Nicole: So sorry to see you go. Yours was a voice of reason in a cacophony of ignorance. You will be missed!


axster: For someone who insists that God's Ten Commandments don't apply to him, you seem to be obsessed with listing them as applying to our GREAT President. Double standard? They apply to Trump but not to you? HYPOCRITE!


---jerry6593 on 8/13/19


Yes Strongaxe, you covered that perfectly. But as I also pointed out this morning on the "The Family " doc now on Netflix, the evil goes deeper than that. There's been a quiet behind the scenes whatever called Doug Coe ..I think that's how his last name is spelled, working for YEARS stating God isn't looking for the sheep, but the WOLF, for a WOLF KING....and walla TRUMP is that WOLF.

Sorry but in scripture the only WOLF is SATAN....who's only purpose is to devour the sheep.

What I find horrifying is apostate Christianity buying into this for POWER..nothing but POWER....which is a prelude to the BEAST.

If people begin to see America as the BEAST why would you want to stay?
---kathr4453 on 8/13/19


Well Folks, I am going to do the same as JS1234 and call it quits.

I enjoyed debating with you all.

But I have to focus more on my inner soul and worshipping Jesus as He wishes.

Sorry Jerry, it seems you will be the only person to carry sanity on CN.

Take care and know everyone on CN are in my prayers.

---Nicole_Lacey on 8/12/19




kathr4453:

Trump breaks MOST of the Ten, yet Evangelicals still worship him.

No other gods: Narcissist worships himself.
No graven images: Commissioned a self-portrait and had his charity buy it.
No name in vain: Frequently swears to things he knows aren't true.
Keep Sabbath holy: Weekly Mar a Lago golfing.
Honor your parents: OK. maybe he gets a pass on this one.

Don't kill: "I could shoot someone on 5th Ave.". 5th Ave. Trump Tower fire kills someone.
Don't steal: Thousands of lawsuits from stiffed contractors.
Don't commit adultery: Cheated on each of his wives.
Don't covet: Wants married women who say no.
Don't bear false witness: Lies about everything. Accused Hillary of Epstein murder.
---StrongAxe on 8/12/19


Well we all know Trump does not keep the SDA's sabbath, yet it doesn't seem to get in Jerry's way here. That's what I call hypocricy to its core.

And concerning the question above.....I didn't know we had laws that didn't allow anyone to leave if they wanted. We're not N Korea ...
---kathr4453 on 8/12/19


jerry6593:

You often condemn people based on false assumptions that exist only in your own mind. Think how you would feel if someone accused you of things you didn't do.

You obsess so much over the Sabbath commandment, you forget "Thou shalt not bear false witness", and "Do unto others as you would have them to unto you". If you don't want others to accuse you of things you don't do, please don't do it to them.

Making snide untrue comments at other people just to feel good about an argument is neither good debating practice, nor does it show Christian love.

(And this also applies to everyone else on these blogs who does this).
---StrongAxe on 8/11/19


\\cluny: If you stopped listening to CNN & MSNBC, maybe you'd get your facts straight.\\

I don't listen to them at all.

So the joke's on YOU.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/10/19


cluny: If you stopped listening to CNN & MSNBC, maybe you'd get your facts straight.


---jerry6593 on 8/10/19




I don't think Jerry cares about FACTS when it gives him another opportunity to spew his Fox and Fill hate. Time to go reload Jerry.
---kathr4453 on 8/10/19


\\The El Paso shooter was a socialist, Trump-hating, America-hating, environmental whacko. I agree that we need more gun control - leftist Democrats should never be allowed to have them.\\

Actually, the El Paso shooter was a Trump supporter. (But I've noticed that SDAs tend to get verifiable facts wrong.)

You're confusing him with the Dayton shooter, who does seem to have been left of center.

As far as firearm control, Someone greater than anybody who posts to these blogs said, "Those who take up the gun shall die by the gun."

Or something like that.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/9/19


The least in heaven is not addressed to the BOC, THE CHURCH. We will be placed above the Angels. Now those saved after the church is raptured, called the "residue of men" will be least, and possibly with those many will be least of the least.

If I've ENTERED HIS REST, meaning EVERYDAY is a Sabbath Rest to me IN CHRIST, I've far surpassed you Jerry. May want to note a promise being left YOU, don't be like the OT Jews who fell short, and died in their sin, never receiving the promise....because they didn't receive it BY FAITH. HEBREWS 3-4.
---kathr4453 on 8/9/19


Actually, jerry, the Bible itself makes no distinction between sacrificial laws, moral laws, or other kinds of laws.

It knows only ONE law: The Law.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/8/19

Oh dear...another false ORTHODOX BELIEF. WRONG CLUNY.

The Law of Faith is not the Law of Moses for example. But that is something over your head. Unfortunately you believe your superior in intelligence to others, yet prove by this statement, you only suffer from delusions of grandeur only you can bask in.

So much losing Cluny. But hay...keep up the good spelling. That's important to hold on to as long as you can...maybe God will give you a bigger bathroom in heaven for being a good spelling BEer.
---kathr4453 on 8/9/19


kat & cluny: In the New Covenant, God calls the law written on the heart "MY Law". There is only one Law that God spoke to the people and wrote with His own finger in stone. HIS Ten Command Law. There are many other laws written by Moses (called the handwriting of ordinances), there are also man-made laws which Jesus condemns (Sunday observance may be one of them). It is only teaching against the 10C Law that Jesus said you would be called "least" in heaven.

ax: The El Paso shooter was a socialist, Trump-hating, America-hating, environmental whacko. I agree that we need more gun control - leftist Democrats should never be allowed to have them.


---jerry6593 on 8/9/19


\\ The only law supplanted by Jesus was the sacrificial law, since it pointed to His sacrifice on the Cross.\\

Actually, jerry, the Bible itself makes no distinction between sacrificial laws, moral laws, or other kinds of laws.

It knows only ONE law: The Law.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/8/19


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jerry6593:

You can never love someone if you constantly demonize them.

The El Paso shooter complained about a "Hispanic invasion", echoing Trump adminstration talking points (e.g. wall, yesterday's mass deportation in Missouri), and Fox used exactly the same words. Are you going to call Fox leftist?

May Christians claim we are under some parts of Old Testament Law but not others. Nothing in OT or NT separates the Law into multiple categories, some which must be obeyed and others not.

I don't tell ANYONE to steal, kill, etc. so Jesus' warning about "the least in heaven" does not apply. I also don't tell anyone to violate the Sabbath. If you want to keep it, more power to you. Just don't force me to.
---StrongAxe on 8/8/19


Jerry, and under the New Covenant, I have obeyed the sabbath law by ENTERING HIS REST. It's all clearly explained in Hebrews 3-4. So I really don't know what you are talking about. Also the whole law is fulfilled in LOVE towards others. Love doesn't murder, steal etc. This is what the "fruit of the spirit " is, that OT could not access...See Galatians 5:22-25.

Love is defined in 1st Corinthians 13. So you show by your rules you can't walk in the Spirit, because the flesh wars against the Spirit...and the LAW only kept the flesh under control as much as possible....showing it was impossible.
---kathr4453 on 8/8/19


While not under the Jewish law, even Paul stated that he was under the law of Christ and that was to bear one another burden.
---riolion on 8/8/19


Kat: FACTS and leftists are incompatible.


ax: The Dayton shooter was a Trump-hating leftist Democrat who apparently loved Liz Warren.
(Confirming my theory.)

You have no idea what the New Testament teaches if you claim that Jesus came to destroy the law. The only law supplanted by Jesus was the sacrificial law, since it pointed to His sacrifice on the Cross. If you are under the New Covenant, then you have the Ten (not nine) Commandment Law written on your heart. Otherwise, you are called least in heaven.


Glory to Jesus Christ, Creator of the Seventh-day Sabbath.
---jerry6593 on 8/8/19


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If guess Jerry is at a loss for words. Must have looked up those FACTS and can't refute.
---kathr4453 on 8/7/19


jerry6593:

I keep explaining it, but you refuse to listen. The New Testament makes it CLEAR that WE ARE NOT UNDER THE LAW.

1) There were 2193 mass shootings since Sandy Hook
2) Mass shootings are defined as shootings in which four or more people are killed
3) Therefore, AT LEAST 2193 x 4 (i.e. 8772) people must have been killed in mass shootings since Sandy Hook.

Given that many of these mass shootings killed many more than 4 people, the actual number killds is much higher. However, even if the number was the LOWEST POSSIBLE, 8772 is still almost 3x as many as killed on 9/11, refuting your claim that Muslims are #1.

And I have yet to hear your proof that Democrats are #2.
---StrongAxe on 8/6/19


ax: Thanks for again confirming your cognitive dissonance in regard to the Law of God.

Where on earth did you get the 8772 number? That sounds like the annual number of murders in Democrat-controlled cities.


---jerry6593 on 8/6/19


Like I said before Cluny, your posts have no meaning to the subject matter at all...just more silly snide comebacks.
---kathr4453 on 8/5/19


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jerry6593:

OT law had hundreds of rules - Don't do this, this, the other. These were necessary to ensure Jews followed God's laws to the letter, as they didn't have "Love God, and love your neighbor" written on their hearts.

Christians DO, so they don't need a huge laundry list of "thou shalt nots" to tell them what they shouldn't do. They ALREADY KNOW without having to be told.

2193 mass shootings (i.e. 4 or more dead) since Sandy Hook alone, most by American white males, so way over 8772 dead, compared to only 2977 on 9/11. So no, Muslims are NOT #1. PROVE Democrats are #2!

El Paso killer was xenophobic like Trump, only disappointed Republicans weren't dealing with Mexicans fast enough.
---StrongAxe on 8/5/19


Seeing Cluny again wasted another spot here with his senile comments of WHO CARES ....Jerry, your hate is really applauding and so bazaar. These home grown white men and teem white boys who are mass murderers in our country are and have been on the rise since TRUMP has taken the scene. His refusal to CONDEMN WHITE SUPREMACY from the get go, is endorsing it.

And all the hate towards Dems and deflecting these facts towards Dems and immigration will NEVER sanitize the FACTS. Only twisted FOX would twist these FACTS. Your just a mindless Paul-Parrott of FOX NEWS.
---kat453 on 8/5/19


kathr, NO English plural is formed by " apostrophe s".

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/5/19


ax: As a typical leftie, you have lost all connection with reality. You can't proclaim that you are not under the Ten Commandment Law and then say that you keep the Ten Commandment Law. It's called cognitive dissonance.

As for the mass-murdering nut jobs in America, Muslims are #1, and Democrats are #2. Only those disaffected with Trump are capable of such crimes. The Dem candidate clown show is a good example of anti-Trump maniacs on parade!


Thank God for Donald Trump!



---jerry6593 on 8/5/19


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Cluny, I believe that means he's a racist incited by Trumps rhetoric. He's definitely a Trumpster. I thenk the one in OH is too....as Trumps rhetoric is stirring up the Crazy's AGAIN.
---kathr4453 on 8/4/19


jerry6593:

We are under Law of Christ, not Law of Moses. I repeatedly said we don't NEED Ten Commandments because "Love God and your neighbor" ALREADY tells us to not kill, lie, steal, covet, and commit adultery, without needing specific rules for each - NOT a license to do them. (Unfortunately, some "Christians" do because "Jesus will forgive us anyway"). Trump does all these, and boasted he never once regretted (let alone repented) anything in his life.

Most mass shootings are committed by disgruntled xenophobic white males. Republicans say "Build the wall!" and "Go back home!". KKK members who run for office run as Republicans. NZ shooter cited Trump as one of his inspirations.
---StrongAxe on 8/4/19


\\ I just hate horrible things many of them do (El Paso shooting is just the latest example).\\

A cursory search of the commonly used search engine says that Patrick Crusius, the El Paso shooter, condemned both Democrats AND Republicans for their "inaction."

That doesn't sound like he's a Republican to me.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/4/19


ax: "When I have EVER "broken most of the Ten Commandments"

Every time someone mentions the Ten Commandments, you scream "were not under the law". Make up your mind. You can't be both under the law and not under the law.

It is you lefties that have caused all the social unrest in this country - just like Karl Marx told you to.


Thank God for Donald Trump.



---jerry6593 on 8/4/19


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jerry6593:

If you consider yourself a Christian, why don't you obey Jesus and LOVE YOUR ENEMIES?

I don't HATE Republicans and call them insulting names. I just hate horrible things many of them do (El Paso shooting is just the latest example).

When I have EVER "broken most of the Ten Commandments", and been proud about doing so, and boasted about it?!

But Trump has. He boasts about getting any woman he wants "when you're a celebrity they let you do anything", even married ones. He boasts that cheating clients is "good business practice". He lies about everything. He's jealous of Obama's successes so he wants to erase everything Obama ever did, whether good or bad. That's five right there.
---StrongAxe on 8/4/19


Right before our eyes today we see hate crimes in AZ and OH both crazy' Trump supporters Trump got all stirred up......

Murder is murder, hate is murder, and the hypocricy is you think only the unborn matter. And we see the hate from Jerry is so sad coming out of the mouth and heart of someone who says he's a Christian, just like Germany Christians ( wanna be anyway) didn't stop Hitler.
---kathr4453 on 8/4/19


Nicole_Lacey:

In 2016, hate crime rates increased 266% in every city where Trump had a rally. Coincidence?

The Little Sisters case had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with how and when anyone could worship. The government did nothing to tell the Sisters that they could worship this and not that, or here and not there. It was solely about whether the health care they provided TO THEIR EMPLOYEES was required to pay for contraceptives or not. If a Jehovah's Witness runs a business, can the insurance he provides refuse to fund emergency blood transfusions? Because that's exactly the same issue - employer's religious beliefs vs. employer's rights, and nothing to do with worship.
---StrongAxe on 8/4/19


ax: "you have only contempt for liberals"

Correct! Liberal, progressive, socialist, Marxist, communist, or whatever your title of choice may be, you are enemies of our American constitutional REPUBLIC. Note we are not a democracy (mob rule) as you leftists like to pretend. You have started a civil war against our American culture. We, the people consider you as real an enemy as were the other socialist enemy - NAZIs.


"here's a man who not only breaks almost every one of the Ten Commandments, but boasts about being proud of doing so."

As do YOU!


---jerry6593 on 8/4/19


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\\Cluny:..Planned Parenthood, the one in my home city is in a middle class white neighborhood.//

Name your city!\\

I thought you already knew that Birmingham, AL is my home town.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/3/19


jerry6593:

You wrote: We don't care what the libtards do as long as it doesn't affect us.

Your use of pejorative terms like "libtard" aptly shows that you have only contempt for liberals. I presume that this means that you consider them your enemies. Remember how Jesus taught us to treat our enemies? He told us to love them.

Republicans "Thank God for Donald Trump" despite the fact here's a man who not only breaks almost every one of the Ten Commandments, but boasts about being proud of doing so. Christians have warned about antichrists for centuries, but when one appears, they elect him!
---StrongAxe on 8/3/19


That's right, I want the food industry to be free from inspections, and free to put sawdust in my bread. How dare those Dems interfere with free enterprise. I also want the pharmatical industry to charge what ever the heck they want...up to but not exceeding a million dollars for a bottle of aspirin. And heck, forcing kids to go to school at all....NO WAY! if parents want to raise morons....they should have the freedom to do so. And God forbid banning asbestos and lead pipes. How dare the Dems interfere in our stupidity. LET STUPEDITY RULE!!!! Make America Great Again, ..bring back lead pipes and asbestos ....PRAISE JESUS for the GOP who alone will make that happen.
---kathr4453 on 8/3/19


StrongAxe, Jam 2016 Gallup reported that "Americans rated black-white relations much more negatively today than they have at any point in the past 15 years, " White optimism dropped 27% in the last 2 years, with black optimism down 15%.

Just because you liked the Obama's yrs doesn't mean the rest of the Country wasn't damaged by Obama.

//hate crimes have increased dramatically (See "The Effect of President Trump's Election on Hate Crimes")//

You mean FAKE hate crimes, like Smollett.

//When do Democrats tell ANYONE how and when to worship?//

When Obama's Admin. tried to CHANGE the words of 'Freedom of RELIGION' to 'Freedom of WORSHIP.' when they went after the Little Sisters of the Poor.
---Nicole_Lacey on 8/3/19


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Nicole_Lacey:

Huh? "Us vs. them" mentality has greatly increased in the past 3 years. The xenophobic Wall obsession is the epitome of elitism. "Our ancestors came to this country and made good, but we don't want to share it with others who want to do the same thing." Also, hate crimes have increased dramatically (See "The Effect of President Trump's Election on Hate Crimes")

When do Democrats tell ANYONE how and when to worship? R. AZ Senator Slyvia Allen does (See "GOP Lawmaker Who Wants Mandatory Church Attendance Warns Of Browning Of America")

I was talking about their ELECTORATE, to whom they are responsible. They won by large majorities, unlike Trump.
---StrongAxe on 8/3/19


Nicole: Exactly! It's all about freedom. We don't care what the libtards do as long as it doesn't affect us. We want to live and let live, but they want to CONTROL (and screw up) every aspect of our lives. No thanks. Thank God for Donald Trump!


---jerry6593 on 8/3/19


Thanks StrongAxe,

While that seems a good comeback, consider 1 pt 2:23,

"Who, when he was reviled, G3058 reviled G486 not again, when he suffered, he threatened not, but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously",

sometimes silence is an effective response.
---Chria9396 on 8/3/19


Cluny:..Planned Parenthood, the one in my home city is in a middle class white neighborhood.//

Name your city!

I Google it and the closes they came up was upper Boston, not middle class.

It is mostly White, but mostly young with high poverty rate.

Very few even lives in a house, and less own a house.

Few even have cars, most ride bikes. Medium income was $33,000 which as you know that's poor in Boston.

I made more than twice that income in Alabama. Alabama considered me high middle class ONLY because I wasn't married or have any children. Otherwise it's isn't middle class.

BTW, not all PPD perform abortions. THANK GOD!

WHY?

Because they can find VERY LITTLE doctors to kill babies.
---Nicole_Lacey on 8/3/19


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StrongAxe: it IS about elitism. "We are good. You are bad".//

Exactly, that's why Trump won in 2016.

Democrats think they are the elite and need to tell us how to eat, how and when to worship, who can discriminated. 'Discrimination pecking order.' What kind of cars to drive. They only want people to smoking marijuana not cigarettes/vapors etc.

//The Squad's constituent's love them, while Trump's approval rating is only around 42.//

Nice Trick, but WRONG.

Approval among Republicans is 93%. 42% among everyone.

If you do the same for the Squad it's worst.

AOC 22% and Omar 9% That's ONLY among Democrats. Add Republicans and it's WORST!

Either way, Trump is better liked than the Squad.
---Nicole_Lacey on 8/2/19


\\All PPD clinics are in Black/Hispanic neighborhoods. \\

If you're talking about Planned Parenthood, the one in my home city is in a middle class white neighborhood.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/2/19


Cluny, this movie was about the IRISH in NY and their ties to the Catholic Church, one group called the "Natives" aka Irish Catholics who did not want Rome's Control, and the Irish Catholics who came over very loyal to the RCC and Pope.

There are many gangs in NY...but I'm talking about a particular time with a particular group ..
---kathr4453 on 8/2/19


JS1234, StevenG is right. I am a Black Hispanic woman in Alabama. The Democrats are still the same and the Republicans are the same.

I am called derogatory names by Democrats all the time. NEVER by a Republican.

All PPD clinics are in Black/Hispanic neighborhoods. More Black babies are KILLED via Abortions than born according to the CDC

As before, Republican Abraham Lincoln, SAVED Slaves, as today another Republican Gov Kay Ivey is trying to SAVE Black babies. LITERALLY!

President Trump is TRYING to SAVE Black babies by appointing Conservative Justices. But, Democrats want to KILL Black babies AFTER birth

Democrats want to break Statues, BUT REFUSE to CHANGE their own party's name.

What's up with that?
---Nicole_Lacey on 8/1/19


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\\
Remembering the movie Gangs of NY, based on historical history was about American Citizens centered around the Catholic Church of America and the RCC control over many Catholics still having strong ties to the Pope over our own Constitution.\\

kathr, these violent gangs existed not because of the Roman Catholic Church, but IN SPITE OF her teaching.

Properly exercised, there can be no conflict between the civil laws and the authority of any church or faith.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/1/19


Nicole_Lacey:

As I said, it's not necessarily about racism, but it IS about elitism. "We are good. You are bad".

Republican attitude towards U.S. is "If you don't like it here, and go back to your own country", but towards other countries "If you don't like your own country, stay and fix it" - a hypocritical double standard.

It is not *I* who is trying to change the country. I just say what I see. Look at Democrat and Republican agendas 150 years and now. They have reversed. Even the 1956 Republican election platform is point by point Democratic talking points today.

The Squad's constituent's love them, while Trump's approval rating is only around 42.
---StrongAxe on 8/1/19


Obviously those Congress Women don't hate the people they serve, but vice versa. The were voted in by those they serve, because they love their congress women and men. That's how it works Nicole. Even got a warm welcome home, just like Justin Amash.
---kathr4453 on 8/1/19


\\
Because you are trying to CHANGE this Country from it's original concept.\\

What is our country's original concept, Nicole?

What exactly is StrongAxe doing to try to change it?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/1/19


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Remembering the movie Gangs of NY, based on historical history was about American Citizens centered around the Catholic Church of America and the RCC control over many Catholics still having strong ties to the Pope over our own Constitution. It was a bloodbath at that time in NY between these two opposing groups of Catholics, where it appears the ones who did not want the RCC in control here like it was in Europe won out. Just note these were ALL citizens of America.

These are the same issues today...and it appears now Republicans want Russia partnering with America......that very well may also end in a bloodbath....SOOOOO in the end the real war may not be over what you think ...but something totally different.
---kathr4453 on 8/1/19


StevenG, the Southern Democrats of old have now switched places with Republicans. How things were 50 years ago does not reflect how things are today, not at all.
---JS1234 on 7/31/19


Amen Steveng. DEMOCRATS! Also, the party killing babies even after birth.

Strongaxe, I am sure I told you to go back to Canada.

WHY?

Because you are white?

NO!

Because you are trying to CHANGE this Country from it's original concept.

It is enough to fight born Citizens, but we don't need an outsider who we welcomed with opened arms to try to change us.

Race has NOTHING attached to that phase. As Congress women shouldn't be in office if they hate the people they serve.

That's like an adopted child joining birth children beating their parents.

People would say it's a shame the kids beat their parents, esp. the adopted one.

The adopted kid is looked at twice as being ungrateful.
---Nicole_Lacey on 7/31/19


Steveng:

It's not about the names people put on themselves, which are transitory. It's about the ideologies they espouse, which exist in every generation.

The people who were pro-slavery and pro-KKK were racist conservatives, who just happened to call themselves Democrats. They were opposed by egalitarian progressives, who just happened to call themselves Republicans.

Today, progressives call themselves Democrats, and conservatives call themselves Republicans. It's Republicans who who tell people "go back where you came from".

Both then and now, conservatives were wrong, and progressives were right.
---StrongAxe on 8/1/19


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kathr: I seldom agree with you, but your take on the manners of visitors is right on. A visitor to your home has no right to demand changes to your "house rules" or receive permanent aid and comfort against your wishes. One should be respectful of another's home and not complain of the accommodations. Visitors, like fish, begin to stink when they overstay their welcome. Historically, American immigrants revered their new home as the best place on earth (because it is). They didn't trash it.


---Jerry6593 on 8/1/19


Strong axe, I totally agree.

ALSO, It "appeared" we came a long way from the 60-70's as it was the beginning of bussing, integration etc, that was so foreign to so many. Like OH MY GOSH, WHO ARE THOSE GUYS, who today are now our very best friends. Same with integrating the physically and mentally handicapped in schools, ...my children experienced, but my generation did not. This IS CALLED BEING PROGRESSIVE, just as women being given the vote was PROGRESSIVE. But even that is being called names today by these soggy, stale, TOO OLD Republicans, who think coal is the way of the future.

And for Nicole's info, seems as though Nixon, Reagan and many other REP were very racist back in the 70's with exposed phone calls. YIKES.
---kathr4453 on 8/1/19


Which political party was pro slavery? Which political party created the KKK? Which political party started the Civil War? Which political party was against the Civil Rights Act?
---Steveng on 7/31/19


kathr4453:

That is true. Sadly, many people feel entitled that just because a country is THEIR home, it isn't anybody else's.

Some white people tell black people to "go back to Africa", even though their ancestors often came from Africa centuries before their own ancestors came from Europe. Trump's own parents and grandparents and wives came from Europe.

White people here as guests, and forced natives off their fertile lands into reservations. It's utter hypocrisy for them to tell others "go back to their own country", and sometimes even they say that to Native Americans!!
---StrongAxe on 7/31/19


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Monk, The problem is each side..the Dems and Rep equally feel they are AMERICA. so for the Rep to say...if you don't like or agree with our far right wing agenda, then you are not a true American, and if you don't like our flavor of politics then you can leave and go back where you came from. Question, who has the right to think THEIR beliefs are the one and true and only beliefs in politics?

On the other hand, when relatives are "visiting" my home and start telling me how I should run my house...ill tell them to go home to their own house and take care of their own business.

America belongs to ALL CITIZENS regardless of political affiliation, and are not the same as visitors.
---kathr4453 on 7/31/19


StrongAxe, nicely said!
---JS1234 on 7/31/19


JS1234:

I am a white Canadian living permanently in the U.S. I am a bit left of center, but on several occasions, political conservatives told ME to "go back where I came from", including several on these blogs.

That attitude is born from elitism, i.e. "WE are better than YOU", and underlies every sort of prejudice: racism, sexism, classism, religious persecution, etc.

It says "I love us, but I hate you", the very antithesis of Jesus' command "love your neighbor". He even said "love your enemy" which goes much further.

Any Christians who hate anyone just for who they are may claim to follow Jesus, but they do not. (See Matthew 7:21-26)
---StrongAxe on 7/30/19


I wonder if anyone ever told my dad to go back to Sweden where you came from...
---JS1234 on 7/30/19


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Chria9396:

When white people tell black people to go back to Africa, or Latino people to back to Mexico, a perfectly justified (if not Christian) response would be tell them "So, when are YOU going back to Europe?", as Europeans here are all descendants from immigrants or refugees (i.e. the Pilgrims fled England because they felt oppressed there).
---StrongAxe on 7/30/19


People may have the rights to free speech, however, attitudes revealed may not be kind and loving.

My children were told many years ago to go back to where they came from because they are 'brown'. They were quite young at the time and I was shocked, having thought better of those who said it and of people in general.

I believed my responsibility was to encourage the children to love and forgive, as in others instances when 'wronged'.
---Chria9396 on 7/30/19


Nicole_Lacey:

If you look at terrorist attacks committed in the U.S. in the past couple of decades, with a few exceptions (like 9/11), most of them have been perpetrated by white men.

Trump told The Squad that they came from corrupt countries, and need to go back and fix their problems, and then come back and tell us how it's done.

First, three of the four were actually BORN here, meaning Trump unwittingly called the U.S. hopelessly corrupt.

Second, his administration says "If you live in the U.S. and don't like it, leave and go somewhere else. But if you live in Guatemala or Somalia, don't come here, stay and fix your own country." This is a hypocritical double standard.
---StrongAxe on 7/27/19


\\4.5% of 100 White people committed murders.

34% out of 100 Black people commit murders.

That's a lie and a lie to start a race war.\\

Who came up with these statistics, Nicole?

Properly, these would all be called homicides.

The different states define "murder" differently.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/27/19


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IIhar Omar said we should watch White men instead of Muslims.

You do not blame one group people to uplift another group. That's racist.

She lied. White people do not commit the most murders in America.

Whites people (women and men together) commit 45% of the murders.

Black people commit over 50% of all murders in America according to the Department of Justice.

And I am not talking about percentage of each group.

4.5% of 100 White people committed murders.

34% out of 100 Black people commit murders.

That's a lie and a lie to start a race war.

We don't need an outsider whom we embraced to cause trouble in our Country.

She can go back to her birth Country.
---Nicole_Lacey on 7/27/19


At least, Trump told them to "come back". Maxine Waters did worst and I haven't heard anyone renounce her?

She said any Trump's supports do not have rights in public areas.

***Trump enablers should expect harassment at restaurants, gas stations, shopping places, and even their homes until they change their immigration policy. Several have already been confronted at public places. --Real Politics

Democrats in Congress promote violence all the time.

BTW, if you HATE America you should NOT be in Congress.

That the very definition of an oxymoron.
---Nicole_Lacey on 7/27/19


But it is wrong to tell them to leave because you don't like what they say. If I said you should leave the United States because you disagree with me. That should make you upset. That I am saying I am so correct and that you are so wrong. You are don't belong here.

The attack was telling citizens to leave because some don't like what they stand for.

But we all have the right to our view. But as Christians we should speak in love not hate.

By the way the accusation was a lie. They don't hate America. They just don't like the way that we are treating children and other human beings.
---Samuelbb7 on 7/26/19


It was small and childish of Trump to say this.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/26/19


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Everyone has told someone else to leave, go back or similar.

When people complain about their job/boss, they were told to quit.

Or dislike food, go buy your own food.

But, everyone leaves out the last part of Trump's tweet.

He said ...Why don't they go back and help FIX the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then COME BACK and show us how...."

But, no one is talking about how these same 4 Congress women were the ONLY ONES to VOTED against the aid package to Illegal Immigrants.

I guess they want to continue to lie about them drinking out of the toilet.

It would be hard to continue with that LIE if they had bottle of waters in their hands.
---Nicole_Lacey on 7/26/19


No right to tell them ?

Freedom of speech - First Amendment

( This doesn't mean they have to go )
---RichardC on 7/25/19


As far as I know, anybody is allowed to leave no matter what their attitude is towards the country, that is, unless their passport has been confiscated.
---JS1234 on 7/25/19


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