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What are your thoughts about the Coronavirus (COVID-19)? Should Christians fear it? (for those Christians who fear it read Psalms 91 for spiritual support)

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The bible also says not to bear false witness of which you and Kathr do quite a bit of it yourselves.
---Steveng on 5/23/20


Do you have any ACTUAL statistics, or is this yet another rumor you belief without proof?

There are TONS of conspiracy theories. Most are FALSE. Alex Jones is a master of them. He pushed a lie that Hillary Clinton ran a child trafficking ring out of the basement of a Washington pizza parlor (that has no basement). A man shot the place up, and almost got people killed. He claimed grieving parents of Sandy Hook shooting victims were "paid crisis actors" and nobody was shot. Parents sued him for defamation.

He ADMITTED he made up lies JUST for ratings. Many right-wing Christians love a man who DELIBERATELY bears false witness for money. The Bible condemns gossip, yet you revel in it.
---StrongAxe on 5/21/20

If you ever kept up with conspiracy theories over ninety percent have been proven correct.
---Steveng on 5/19/20


Natural News is a far-right conspiracy theory and fake news site. If you take that site seriously, that explains a lot. One web site making claims is not evidence. Neither is one parliament member demanding arrest.

The site's founder, Michael Adams, called for violence against proponents of GMO foods. Check the Wikipedia article for many (not just one) accusations against him, with 54 links to back them up.

He promoted a homeopathic treatment for Ebola, which he took down after cricitism. (If it was true, why did he retract it? Because it wasn't true.)

Seek news that is actually true and verifiable, not just that happens to fit with your own prejudices.
---StrongAxe on 5/18/20

Alex Jones of InfoWars said Sandy Hook was a hoax.....many believed for years before the liar was sued for LYING.

There are also articles and heads of Nigeria stating no such bribe took place .

Some need to understand the difference between allegations without proof, and those with. No one can show proof here.

Same crap as the kid murdered in Brunswick Ga. Murder can be done physically or just by slander without facts, but repeat gossip from crazed wackos who inflame other wackos who then go on to murder one way or another.

God hates such gossip. Shame on you Steveng. Rotten fruit of the flesh. A sign one is not a Christian.
---kathr4453 on 5/19/20

NaturalNews came out with an article dated May 17, 2020 entitled, "In epic speech, Italian member of Parliament demands arrest of Bill Gates as a vaccine criminal for pursuing crimes against humanity"
---Steveng on 5/18/20

I have been hearing this kind of panicky rhetoric for decades:

"Christians! Fear credit cards, because they are the Mark of the Beast!"
"Christians! Fear UPCs, because they are the Mark of the Beast!"
"Christians! Fear RFID chips, because they are the Mark of the Beast!"
"Christians! Fear vaccines, because they are the Mark of the Beast!"

The voice changes, the word changes, but the histrionics stay the same, and they are rubbish. Yes, we should be vigilant, but we should NOT be afraid.

2 Timothy 1:7:
For God hath not given us the spirit of fear, but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
---StrongAxe on 5/15/20

Revelation 13:17 And no man may buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

So again Barb, this is what Steveng has been alluding to for months now.

I will say it AGAIN, NO SCRIPTURE even remotely suggests people will be deceived into a HEALTH BY IMPLANT , where God then punishes them for unknowingly taking Steveng's Mark of the beast.

The mark will be taken with the understanding of WORSHIP, because they think the beast is Christ Himself. No one thinks Gates or his foundation is Christ.
---kathr4453 on 5/15/20

Barb, I'm not sure why you addressed me in the first place. My last post to Steveng was rebutting his comment that India and Africa have a lawsuit against the Gates foundation for supposedly 200,000 deaths related to polio vaccines. It's just not true.

But if YOU have been keeping up with Steveng over the past couple months over this issue,on several blogs I believe it's he who is making this as some reference to the mark of the beast. I've confronted him several times over this and he had not denied it.
---kathr4453 on 5/14/20


Steveng started the blog "Bill Gates Required Microchip":
Bill Gates (a eugenicist like his father before him who, by the way, headed Planned Parenthood) admitted that the purpose of the lockdown is to keep people from naturally catching CoVid-19 so that he can introduce his microchip to be required by all people to participate in society. Your thoughts?

He then dragged that inaccurate premise here. Gates Sr. did NOT "head Planned Parenthood". Steveng has yet to show ANYWHERE where Gates admitted his microchip would be "required" by all to participate in society, other than vaguely alluding to it being in one of his talks over the past 4 years. Steveng constantly rails against vaccines.
---StrongAxe on 5/14/20


Kathr and I are NOT the same. She and I agree on some things, and disagree on others. Both of us have been commenting here for many years. It's possible for two people to share some ideas without being being clones or sock puppets.

I found the NP article. What such chips do is regulate dispensing maintenance drugs in a way that can be controlled externally. Also, birth control is OPTIONAL - something women MAY use IF they want. NOBODY forces them (except China).

This has NOTHING to do with vaccination. Vaccines are NOT maintenance drugs. They are administered once (or a couple of times), and then that's it. There is NOTHING here about mandatory use of implants to control people.
---StrongAxe on 5/14/20

Kathr, please read my post again, slowly and carefully. I did Not say anything about the mark of the beast.

The article, if you care to read it, is about a microchip implant that will last up to 16 years as a method of birth control. Strongaxe seemed to want to see some mention of human microchips in use and that is what I was talking about.

---barb on 5/14/20

Barb aka Steveng, I'm not sure what you are saying here. Are you saying birth control is now the mark of the beast? Or vaccinations of any kind are, or just one for Covid is? Your post seems a little schizophrenic.
---kathr4453 on 5/14/20

Kathr aka Strongaxe, there is an article in the National Post dated July 9, 2014 that reports Bill Gates working towards a microchip for birth control. Until you have heard one of Gates speeches in regard to controlling and decreasing world population, no one will be able to have an informed discussion with you.

Will you be the one to volunteer to be first in line on vaccination day? You go, girl.

The words of Jesus tell us to ask, seek and knock. Those not willing to seek for truth will never find it.
---barb on 5/14/20


1. Bereans searched scriptures "to see if this were so", as ALL scripture is beneficial. I doubt you would say the same about Gates's speeches. I have neither time nor inclination to find and listen to four years of them to find one needle in a haystack. That is NOT how this ever works, anywhere.

If you accuse someone of an offense, the burden is on YOU to provide specific proof of that offense, and not demand that others search for it.

2. Yet again, your message said vaccines, but NOTHING ABOUT MICROCHIPS.

3. If you forefeit your right to vote, you forefeit moral high ground to complain about who gets elected - it's your fault they did.
---StrongAxe on 5/13/20

Steveng again posts fake news. The accusation has been debunked since the first of April. There were 7 deaths, but were totally unrelated to any polio vaccines. One was poisoning, 2 died of malaria. One drown, etc. Neither India or Africa have any such lawsuits against the Gates Foundation.

Again some moron posted this nonsense on Facebook, and it just grew from there, saying the Gates a Foundation has a lab in Wuhan China that created the virus.

So sad that people believe such nonsense and not search out the truth. Making up lies to try to make it fit into last days prophecy looks like LYING SIGNS AND WONDERS taking place ....showing Steveng has no discernment for TRUTH.
---kathr4453 on 5/13/20

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1. Listen to ALL of Bill Gate's talks since 2017. He talks about pandemics and to get every person in the world vaccinated. A country in Africa and India is suing the Gates Foundation for killing over 200,000 children for mandating polio shots and other vaccines.

2. Not citing any BCV or any of his talks. Be like the Bareans, You will learn more than you think when you search the scriptures yourself or do your own research about Mr. Gates talks.

3. I never bash any politician, but maybe, if ever, a policy or a debate. I have never voted in my life. And that was a good thing since a job I took in the early 1980s.
---Steveng on 5/12/20


I don't expect an immediate answer, but when a discussion goes on for several months, and you comment frequently, but only with vague "listen to his talks" without naming a specific one, or show exact words he used, one has to wonder why.

To defend a Biblical or legal doctrine, name BCV or cite the law or case, not "it's in the Bible or law book somewhere, look it up".

30 year of corruption, 16 D and 14 R? Trump obstructs every attempt at transparency. He is REMOVING oversight. He's not erasing corruption, he's letting it happen more freely without accountability.

Did YOU pray for Obama instead of bashing HIM? If not, pot, kettle, black.
---StrongAxe on 5/12/20

Well lets just go after Bush's activities too. we never did find out what happened to that 450 BILLION loaded on a plane in CASH and sent to IRAQ that just disappeared. So Steveng how far back should JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE JUDGED go? Will our next administration open up and broadcast Trumps tax returns, after his presidency is over?

Throwing shade to deflect from ones own evil doings...RE...NY remember has several investigations on the Trumps, where his own sister had to step down from her Federal Judgeship not something an innocent person would do.

The Family also found guilty of cooking the books with their Charity Org, having to go to some community service whatever on how NOT to steal from your own charity.
---kathr4453 on 5/12/20

StrongAxe wrote: "...but he has yet to do so."

Many of you wrongly assume way too much. Just because I didn't answer you in a timely manner, you assume I can't. I'm not on these blogs as often as you people are on a daily basis. I do have a real life to lead helping real people with real problems. I don't live in a virtual world as many of you do.

As for you people who are bashing President Trump, you have absolutely no idea what he is working on behind closed doors. You think erasing thirty years of corruption, treason, and infiltration of all departments of government by communists can happen overnight. Aren't christians suppose to pray for out leaders instead of bashing them?
---Steveng on 5/11/20

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It is OK for you to make the decision that it's OK for you to die for the sake of the Dow Jones. That's your decision to make. However, it is NOT a decision that politicians get to make for you, and sadly there are quite a few of them who want to do so, as they admit that opening up their states will increase the death toll.

Jesus said that no greater love has a man than if he sacrifices his life for his friends, and that can be a noble cat. However, sacrificing somebody else's life is not noble. It is murder.
---StrongAxe on 5/9/20

There's not that much for me to fear. I am old and I'm going to die soon anyway. So if I die a little sooner for the Dow Jones, it's okay.
---JS1234 on 5/7/20


Steveng has made these accusations on at least two separate blogs, and I have asked him repeatedly to show a specific quote from Gates, using his exact words, but he has yet to do so. All he has done is make vague references to "listen to all his Ted talks", which is like saying "The needle I claim that is there is somewhere in that haystack over there, and it's your responsibility to search it". No, it isn't.

The way that accusations work is that if YOU make an accusation, it's YOUR responsibility to provide specific proof that is obvious for others to see, or if they need to look it up, it's obvious how and where to do so. This is how it works in debates. This is how it works in court.
---StrongAxe on 5/4/20

Would you take an implant if they, who ever "they" are, told you you must take it to carry on into society?
---Steveng on 4/25/20

Since nobody is saying that, this is a pretty dumb question. I challenge you to find any video, story, anything from a reliable source that shows Gates said this. Your conspiracy theory doesn't hold water.
---NurseRobert on 5/2/20

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Right. As I had mentioned earlier, 2 Timothy 1:7, 2 Timothy 1:7, 1 John 4:18, and Matthew 10:28 all tell us that we should not fear, and that love conquers fear. People who run around hysterically screaming "beware this!" or "beware that!" are driven by fear, and not love.
---StrongAxe on 4/29/20

No believers should not fear any of this for God said He tells everything before it happens...the testimony of Jesus( Revelation) is the least taught/heard word of God...
We are not exempt from the trials of this life but our stance should be one that brings glory to God and edification of the Church. Sadly its moments like this ( and worse ones to come) that we see among the believers who actually believe. Our belief should not put us in a state of lawlessness of the authority of the land where that authority does not impede our worship. Having to stay home DOES NOT impede our worship. The church isn't a place - its a living breathing the foolishness of a few believers have me concerned more than this virus
---LadyShip19 on 4/27/20

Would you take an implant if they, who ever "they" are, told you you must take it to carry on into society?
---Steveng on 4/25/20


Rodney Howard-Browne refused to close his church, despite the law requiring social disstancing - because he believed the law violates his freedom of religion.

However, once his insurance company cancelled his insurance for doing so, he decided to close his church THEN. So it seems that he respects the law less than he respects God, but he respects money more than he respects both of them.
---StrongAxe on 4/21/20

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hatred...what does right wing conservative pastors or shannity, fox news channel say ? i heard from rodney browne that this lockdown is 'voilating my freedom of religion freedom to worship'. instead of using common sense, it is a conspiracy by the left to suppress freedom whether religion worship, choice, buy guns. so where is the fruit of the spirit which is patience, peace, joy. just because there is a lockdown, it is perceived as a dictatorship by the right.
---mike on 4/20/20


If a pastor preaches that people should go to church despite health officials and government officials warning them that it's dangerous to do to - BECAUSE it's a hoax, or God would protect them - and those pastors and their flock then get sick anyway, it's entirely the pastor's fault for "tempting God", and it doesn't matter whether they got the disease in church, or a grocery store, or a neighbor, or Evil Joe Atheist. The fact remains that they claimed that they were safe from it, but they weren't.

Since people can carry the virus and be asymptomatic and still spread it, it's just as irresponsible to let Joe Christian into a packed church as it is to allow Evil Joe Atheist.
---StrongAxe on 4/18/20

Steveng are you bearing false witness again? It doesn't matter HOW he got it.....he claimed it was a hoax and said Dems made up. He was the liar seeing the Dems did not make up and it is not a hoax. His lies could have lead others to get infected because they believed his lie.
---kathr4453 on 4/18/20

kaher, what hatred!

We don't know the truth about HOW the pastor contracted the virus. He could have contracted the virus while grocery shopping or visiting a sick neighbor. Or talking with a person on the street.

Or from a bioterrorist - a person known to have the virus and intentionally infecting people he does not like. Or a hardcore atheist having the virus and walking into a church. Or maybe paying someone with a virus to mingle with a person, or group of people, he does not like. Men's hearts are truly evil.
---Steveng on 4/18/20

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'not to worry about our own well-being'. we have to worry about our well being because when a person get sick, he/she not only can infect others they end up in hospitals. analogy - when 2 EMTs are trying to help someone who got electricuted, EMTs are careful not to get electricuted too. instead of 2 helping the injured, 2 are now injured & one EMT has to treat 2 problems.
---mike on 4/16/20

Benjamin is right. Trump needs to stop squabbling about politics and worry more about saving lives. Unfortunately we have a president who makes EVERYTHING about politics, even accusing the Democrats of MAKING THIS VIRUS UP , causing the loss of lives in the first place. Go back and find his SC campaign gathering speech. It's all there and hopefully he will be brought up on murder charges when all is said and done. All they have to do is play that tape ....TRUMPS OWN WORDS OUT OF TRUMPS OWN MOUTH.
---kathr4453 on 4/16/20

rodney howard browne said the state is tyrannical not because of a DEADLY virus but state is hindering the right to 'freedom of worship'. a pastor died because he ignored warnings of covid19 & hold worship services. so where is the line between common sense & faith. of course a pastor will accuse you of lack of faith, not filled with the holy spirit or committing a sin because you contracted covid19 during a stay at home order by the state. brainwashing christians will still vote for TRUMP after 30,000 dead.
---mike on 4/15/20

I believe that in this time of need, it is our duty not to worry about our own well-being or squabble about politcs, but instead on helping others. Love thy Neighbor.
---bemjamin on 4/15/20

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what happened to a church in korea? the virus spread because of one person infecting worshippers during a service. a 'christian' defied the lockdown bec. she said is covered by the blood of christ. where is the line between science/common sense & faith. this is why pastors are stupid bec. when you suffer, you lack faith but when you use common sense you avert disaster. pastors are stupid bec. they don't deal with the realities of life then use 'religious' cliches to project they have the power of God. what these pastors have is not God reliance but the almighty $$$.
---mike on 4/15/20

Actually one of those pastors who mocked the virus and parrotted FOX who originally mocked , is now dead....from the Corona virus. But even with that we still see a defiant Governor FL who is putting his Seniors at risk.

What gets me is Trump is hiding behind states rights to avoid taking responsibility, BUT The Gov of Missouri was overruled when she wanted to keep churches closed.

Such an avoidable mess.
---kathr4453 on 4/11/20

2 Timothy 1:7: For God hath not given us the spirit of fear, but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

1 John 4:18: There is no fear in love, but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

Matthew 10:28: And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul...

We're not supposed to fear danger. But God does not promise to deliever us FROM danger, only THROUGH danger. Praying Psalm 91 as a magic charm to keep us healthy is hubris, like jumping off the temple and expecting angels to catch us. Even Jesus knew better. Many virus outbreak clusters were traced to defiant church leaders who presumed to know better than Jesus.
---StrongAxe on 4/8/20

he that thou shalt no be afriad for the terror by night. nor for the day
---patra on 4/7/20

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This covid19 pandemic and the future economic fallout may be the start of many disasters as the angels begin to let go the winds of strife.(Rev 7:1) Then we may see the application of the mark of the beast and the pouring out of the 7 last plagues. Stay close to Jesus.
---mareeroach on 4/6/20

Matthew 1:23 - Behold, The virgin shall be with a child, and bear a son, and they shall call him name Immanuel, Which is Translated, God with us.

Philippians 2:6 - Who being in form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.

Philippians 2:7 - But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

Philippians 2:8 - And being found in the fashion of as a man, He humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even death of the cross,
---RichardC on 4/3/20

Steveng, my comment on 3/25 was addressing your 3/24 comment ....

Ok so back to the subject of THIS THREAD, please be safe and obey your county, state and Fed government laws and urgent warnings. And let's all pray for our healthcare workers, police, emergency responders.
---kathr4453 on 3/31/20

And I see another Pastor was arrested , jailed, fined in Louisiana disobeying the laws in place using Trump's Easter target as an excuse to be in church,...... I'm sure they will scream PERSECUTION, which it is not. It's just more LAWLENESS.

Here is a great example of God saying to obey the authorities over us.

Maybe people don't care if they get sick, however our Dr's and Nurses etc DO, and it's beyond selfish not to say it's downright evil to purposely over tax our medical workers and hospitals.
---kathr4453 on 3/31/20

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kathr4453 wrote on 3/30/20: "...but you put this on the wrong thread."

No, I didn't because you wrote on 3/25/20:

"Steveng, I believe Jesus is God in the flesh."

That's why I wrote what I posted on 3/29/20.

Besides, was Jesus a ventriloquist when the Father spoke from heaven after Jesus was baptized in the river? Was Jesus praying to himself all the times he was praying? And on the cross when Jesus said, "Father, why have you forsaken me."?
---Steveng on 3/31/20

We shouldn't fear it, but we must respect it. Early Christians didn't fear Colloseum lions, but they still ate them. Putting yourself at risk of a plague and expecting God to keep you safe is as presumptuous (and deadly) as jumping off the roof and execting angels to catch you - something Satan told Jesus to do, but he refused.

Many pastors foolishly ignore the danger, hold large services, and wrongly assure flocks Psalm 91 will protect them.

A large outbreak in the NE AZ Navajo Nation was tracked to a church service. 34 people were infected at an event at First Assemblies of God Church in Greers Ferry AR. a VA pastor complained about "mass media hysteria", but died of the virus last week.

Everybody, be safe!
---StrongAxe on 3/30/20

Steveng, I understand your question, but you put this on the wrong thread.

Since no one can come to the Father except through His Son, and only those IN CHRIST have become begotten sons THROUGH JESUS CHRIST, John 1:18 , John 17, 1 John 5:1 the whole purpose of Jesus death and resurrection was to bring many Sons into GLORY . Hebrews 2 explain this.

But if you don't understand this, I see how easy it is to see those words in a different perspective that misrepresents Jesus words. This is common actually with those who don't have the Holy Spirit to guide and teach HIS WORD.
---kathr4453 on 3/30/20

Jerry's vile nasty comments are for all to see immediately AFTER his weekly REST. YIKES! Please take note they believe in the LAW, and no LAW requires what the FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT requires...Galatians 5:22-25. It's obvious to see in Jerry's posts.

So this is what the issues is between Jerry and me, LAW vs GRACE.

Plus he's full of HATE for anyone who doesn't line up with his thinking. He hates democrats with a passion...all the things God and scripture warns us against. Even Jeus said to love your enemy..bless and curse not.

Because Jerry represents the SDA I find they must be hate filled folks.

Not a good witness at all or abbassador for Christ. Don't become an SDA folks.
---kathr4453 on 3/29/20

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Kathr, how do you explain Jesus' exact quote to Mary? "I ascend unto MY FATHER, and YOUR FATHER, and to MY GOD, and YOUR GOD."
---Steveng on 3/29/20

Rats! I thought the insulting blog clogger was off duty. And I was so looking forward to your vacation.

"Spanish Flu actually began here in the USA"

That's one theory, but you'd have a hard time proving it.

---jerry6593 on 3/29/20

Not so fast Jerry. I found time early in the morning AND late at night. Just call it by its name. Anything else is actually juvenile thinking.

Also let's remember the Spanish Flu actually began here in the USA, at a military base. So I guess WE killed multi millions around the world.

Stay safe.
---kathr4453 on 3/28/20

Hi Haz: Hope you are staying safe down under. We are contending with the Bat Flu here (Orlando, FL) as best we can. I'm glad to see that Chatty Katty has found something useful to do with her time rather than sit at the computer all day spewing hate-filled Demoncrap talking points.

She doesn't like my "Bat Flu" name or even calling it the Chinese Flu as our great President does. Of course she has no problem with "Swine Flu" or "Spanish Flu". Go figure!

---jerry6593 on 3/28/20

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is trump a 'leader' when he keeps blaming obama, democrats fake news when he is the one who did NOT take action to contain the coronavirus.
---mike on 3/27/20

the korean church that did not use common sense made the infection worse. so where is the line between common sense & faith.
---mike on 3/27/20

Steveng, I believe Jesus is God in the flesh.

Anyway, it's you who presumes too much.

But this conversation is ended, as I am using my time to make masks for Emory Hospital. I find it will be far more rewarding than listening to your nonsense.

God bless and stay safe.
---kathr4453 on 3/25/20

Kathr, you assume way too much. I do believe in the scriptures. I believe in the God of Abaham, Issac, and Jacob. I believe God sent his Son to this world.

You not understanding something, not knowing me personally, and spreading rumors about me is forbidden in the bible. If you are going to chastise me, do it in love - not hatred.

Search the bible yourself to see what I say is the truth not from some denominational "church" that you belong.
---Steveng on 3/24/20

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Steveng showed he doesn't believe in the Scriptures " literally" either, as he clearly posted on another blog right now. YIKES. These are heretics folks. Yet he argued for Psalms 91 as your sure protection along with his berry's and Jim Bakkers SILVER whatever. The Government and many agencies gave already exposed these snake oil salesman.

Steveng' s basement CULT is a warning not to join these self proclaimed guru's.
---kathr4453 on 3/24/20

I don't believe in supplements.

For example, vitamin C. Scientist think extracting only the vitamin C from an orange and putting it into a pill works. But it doesn't. It takes ALL the elements of the orange to make the vitamin C work properly in the body. One, of many, important element in an orange, or any plant, is boron. Boron is an activator which opens each cell of the body to accept vitamin C. Do some research of boron. Research has shown that you dont necessarily get the full benefits from isolated substances, such as vitamins and minerals supplements, as compared to when they occur naturally in foods. Another important element is zinc which makes the Vit C work harder within the cell.
---Steveng on 3/23/20

RichardC what we may see is something along the same mentality. Trumps team has to continually walk back Trumps alternate reality. We just may see some fired only to see yes men put in their place. He's been doing this since he came into ofice. Same evil cover up. If that does happen, God help us.
---kathr4453 on 3/23/20

A Ophthalmoliogist from Wuhan China Name Dr. Li Wenliang : Went on line in a Chat room in December of 2019 To warn other doctor of a New flu, Told them about the Corona Flu,

The Chinese Goverment made him make a statement ,That what he said was a lie

Dr. Li Wenliang Die from the Coronavirus
---Richard_C on 3/22/20

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KATHR. Again, your politically driven hate is driving you into a unhinged state.

I never even mentioned the Corona virus, nor its other known titles like Covid 19, the Chinese virus, etc. These titles are not even political. Instead, I countered your point about cattle with facts about Wuhans prosperity, etc, and the Chinese culture of consuming wild animals we westerners find objectionable.

Regarding politics, I was actually referring to your politically driven hate where in this time of crisis its YOU who takes a political stance against news sources like Fox, and also against Jerry who wasnt even referring to Fox News in his post.

You need to get out of that Leftist cult of hate and lies.
---Haz27 on 3/23/20

Steveng, you forgot listing Jim Bakkers snake oil formula too.

Also no one asked Haz27 to pipe in and FIRST make his false hateful statement to me. Funny how you hypocrites only see what you want.
---kathr4453 on 3/23/20

There are a number of foods you can eat to protect you from coronaviruse: elderberry, echinacea, colloidal silver, and a few others. Do your research.
---Steveng on 3/22/20

So let's all put our faith now in food and suppliments? This virus is not scared off by anyone tying garlic around the neck eitber. What scripture too makes such statements? And what about people who have no access to these food suppliments. Are they people God picked out to die? And If this had truth, medical workers would be Taking in place of protective geer.

Giving false information is murder.
---kat453 on 3/23/20

Kathr, first of all, your response to Haz is very unchristian.

Do you even know what a coronavirus is? A coronavirus infects the upper respiratory system. There are many coronaviruses: SARS, MERS, HIV, pneumonia, etc.

also, bats (and snakes) have been eaten by humans for thousands of years - even unto this day. Besides the Asian countries, South America, Eastern Europe, Africa, and along the Mississippi River in the United States.

There are a number of foods you can eat to protect you from coronaviruse: elderberry, echinacea, colloidal silver, and a few others. Do your research.
---Steveng on 3/22/20

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OH Haz 27, your comment has made me LOLAROTF. calling it anything other than by its name: Coronavirus. Calling it anything else IS TURNING IT POLITICAL. Dahhhhhhh! And that political renaming is HATE DRIVEN as we are seeing this already in our country. Your ignorant comments are expected always.

You are so dope. What a riot are so funny Haz27, you should do stand up comedy so people can boo you and run you off stage. Only cowards hide behind their laptop and post Moronic political posts in time of a world wide health hazard.

I do hope folks reading this KNOW who is being political here, AND for the purpose of the blame game, it's obvious who the morons ignoramuses are fueling this hatred.
---kathr4453 on 3/22/20

KATHR. Dont let your politically driven hate blind you.

BTW, Fox is a far more reliable source than Fake news outlets like CNN, NYT, BBC, etc.

And as for your suggestion to export cattle to Whuhan China so that they dont have to eat wild animals, FYI Whuhan is located in an agricultural hub in China, and in that central China region its considered to be the political, economic, financial, commercial, cultural and educational center, hence theyre not in desperate circumstances being forced to eats bats, etc.

Chinese culture has long indulged in consuming wild animals that we in the West find unacceptable. I recall on my trip to the Canton region of China seeing a local rice wine with one day old baby mice added to it.
---Haz27 on 3/21/20

This is not called BAT FLU, nor Chinese flue or Chinese virus. It's called the Coronavirus. Just as MAD COW ...we can eat cow by the way, came from unclean practices of feeding cows ...dead cows.....or something like that. Yet what scripture in the bible forbids cows from eating dead cows? like they had a choice in their feed. The cows didn't sin, but mans idea of making this and putting in their feed created a health hazard for the cows and humans.

Multitudes eat lobster, shrimp etc, which was considered unclean as well. Yet the cleanliness and sanitary practices in today's markets etc have made it safe to eat. But now that man has polluted and poisoned our oceans...more likely unsafe today more than ever.
---kathr4453 on 3/22/20

Wow just wow Jerry. I see you get your ignorance from Fox news.

Maybe we should export cattle etc to these countries so they are not reduced to having to eat wild animals. However the issue is unclean practices of these wet open markets . Research your posts first before spreading Fox news ignorance.
---kathr4453 on 3/21/20

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Although it is evident that this Bat Flu is overly hyped to induce panic, people are dying from it. The most probable theory of the Flu's origin is the eating of BAT by a Chinese man. The Bible proscribes the eating of unclean animals such as bat to protect us from such dangers. What a shame that alleged Christians see no harm in such abominable practices, insisting that Peter's sheet vision concerning religious bigotry is gives license to eat the unclean. Maybe that's where the Swine Flu came from. Why should we aid this disease by defending the abominable practice of eating the disgusting?

---jerry6593 on 3/21/20

I also believe we need to assure those of ETERNAL life, not temporal life by proclaiming the Gospel of the Grace of God.

Paul was still beheaded, Peter still killed, Stephen was stoned to death etc etc long before their time of a natural death, all were awesome examples to us didn't fear physical death or point to PSALMS 91 in time of need. JS1234 GAVE A PERFECT VERSE THEY LIVED BY. It actually reiterates OSAS.
---kathr4453 on 3/18/20

Steven, I've lived through Psalms 91 personally and know it by heart. Unless you have, personally, you may want to just listen instead of misleading others. Many Christians have DIED, being persecuted, tortured, disease etc for thousands of years who also knew this chapter. How dare you accuse them of not having ENOUGH FAITH.
---kathr4453 on 3/18/20

Kathr, you may want to read Psalms 91 again very slowly. It is not about spiritual warfare - it's aobut protecting his people from getting hurt.
---Steveng on 3/17/20

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Christians shouldn't fear death no matter how one dies. Just can't say it enough, those IN CHRIST , having already been baptized into His death shouldn't fear our own passing from this life to the next.

There's no guarantee sickness, cancer, tornado's , hurricanes, etc etc will not come near Christians. It has already for thousands of years. Psalms 91 is scripture that brought me through a most trying time is about spiritual warfare. As long as we live on this earth, we will way or another. Just know those IN CHRIST have Peace with God.
---kathr4453 on 3/14/20

If we live, we live in the Lord. If we die, we die in the Lord. God bless all of you. Be happy.
---JS1234 on 3/14/20

One feature of this virus is it can have very hard effects on elderly people. But if we are older, now we can be more mature and know better how to love, so we are examples for younger people, not helping younger ones to grow up fearing old age and thinking old age is horrible and to be feared.

But in the past we have had older ones who have been helping younger ones to fear old age. So, forgive such ones and do not be fooled by them. With Jesus, now we can have His joy,

"and your joy no one will take from you." (in John 16:22)

Repent of how we have not done this, and give our attention to God, instead (c: Trust God, and prepare to die well . . . however He has planned.
---Bill on 3/14/20

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