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Coronavirus And Christians

What are your thoughts about the Coronavirus (COVID-19)? Should Christians fear it? (for those Christians who fear it read Psalms 91 for spiritual support)

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This covid19 pandemic and the future economic fallout may be the start of many disasters as the angels begin to let go the winds of strife.(Rev 7:1) Then we may see the application of the mark of the beast and the pouring out of the 7 last plagues. Stay close to Jesus.
---mareeroach on 4/6/20

Matthew 1:23 - Behold, The virgin shall be with a child, and bear a son, and they shall call him name Immanuel, Which is Translated, God with us.

Philippians 2:6 - Who being in form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.

Philippians 2:7 - But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

Philippians 2:8 - And being found in the fashion of as a man, He humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even death of the cross,
---RichardC on 4/3/20

Steveng, my comment on 3/25 was addressing your 3/24 comment ....

Ok so back to the subject of THIS THREAD, please be safe and obey your county, state and Fed government laws and urgent warnings. And let's all pray for our healthcare workers, police, emergency responders.
---kathr4453 on 3/31/20

And I see another Pastor was arrested , jailed, fined in Louisiana disobeying the laws in place using Trump's Easter target as an excuse to be in church,...... I'm sure they will scream PERSECUTION, which it is not. It's just more LAWLENESS.

Here is a great example of God saying to obey the authorities over us.

Maybe people don't care if they get sick, however our Dr's and Nurses etc DO, and it's beyond selfish not to say it's downright evil to purposely over tax our medical workers and hospitals.
---kathr4453 on 3/31/20

kathr4453 wrote on 3/30/20: "...but you put this on the wrong thread."

No, I didn't because you wrote on 3/25/20:

"Steveng, I believe Jesus is God in the flesh."

That's why I wrote what I posted on 3/29/20.

Besides, was Jesus a ventriloquist when the Father spoke from heaven after Jesus was baptized in the river? Was Jesus praying to himself all the times he was praying? And on the cross when Jesus said, "Father, why have you forsaken me."?
---Steveng on 3/31/20

We shouldn't fear it, but we must respect it. Early Christians didn't fear Colloseum lions, but they still ate them. Putting yourself at risk of a plague and expecting God to keep you safe is as presumptuous (and deadly) as jumping off the roof and execting angels to catch you - something Satan told Jesus to do, but he refused.

Many pastors foolishly ignore the danger, hold large services, and wrongly assure flocks Psalm 91 will protect them.

A large outbreak in the NE AZ Navajo Nation was tracked to a church service. 34 people were infected at an event at First Assemblies of God Church in Greers Ferry AR. a VA pastor complained about "mass media hysteria", but died of the virus last week.

Everybody, be safe!
---StrongAxe on 3/30/20

Steveng, I understand your question, but you put this on the wrong thread.

Since no one can come to the Father except through His Son, and only those IN CHRIST have become begotten sons THROUGH JESUS CHRIST, John 1:18 , John 17, 1 John 5:1 the whole purpose of Jesus death and resurrection was to bring many Sons into GLORY . Hebrews 2 explain this.

But if you don't understand this, I see how easy it is to see those words in a different perspective that misrepresents Jesus words. This is common actually with those who don't have the Holy Spirit to guide and teach HIS WORD.
---kathr4453 on 3/30/20

Jerry's vile nasty comments are for all to see immediately AFTER his weekly REST. YIKES! Please take note they believe in the LAW, and no LAW requires what the FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT requires...Galatians 5:22-25. It's obvious to see in Jerry's posts.

So this is what the issues is between Jerry and me, LAW vs GRACE.

Plus he's full of HATE for anyone who doesn't line up with his thinking. He hates democrats with a passion...all the things God and scripture warns us against. Even Jeus said to love your enemy..bless and curse not.

Because Jerry represents the SDA I find they must be hate filled folks.

Not a good witness at all or abbassador for Christ. Don't become an SDA folks.
---kathr4453 on 3/29/20

Kathr, how do you explain Jesus' exact quote to Mary? "I ascend unto MY FATHER, and YOUR FATHER, and to MY GOD, and YOUR GOD."
---Steveng on 3/29/20

Rats! I thought the insulting blog clogger was off duty. And I was so looking forward to your vacation.

"Spanish Flu actually began here in the USA"

That's one theory, but you'd have a hard time proving it.

---jerry6593 on 3/29/20

Not so fast Jerry. I found time early in the morning AND late at night. Just call it by its name. Anything else is actually juvenile thinking.

Also let's remember the Spanish Flu actually began here in the USA, at a military base. So I guess WE killed multi millions around the world.

Stay safe.
---kathr4453 on 3/28/20

Hi Haz: Hope you are staying safe down under. We are contending with the Bat Flu here (Orlando, FL) as best we can. I'm glad to see that Chatty Katty has found something useful to do with her time rather than sit at the computer all day spewing hate-filled Demoncrap talking points.

She doesn't like my "Bat Flu" name or even calling it the Chinese Flu as our great President does. Of course she has no problem with "Swine Flu" or "Spanish Flu". Go figure!

---jerry6593 on 3/28/20

is trump a 'leader' when he keeps blaming obama, democrats fake news when he is the one who did NOT take action to contain the coronavirus.
---mike on 3/27/20

the korean church that did not use common sense made the infection worse. so where is the line between common sense & faith.
---mike on 3/27/20

Steveng, I believe Jesus is God in the flesh.

Anyway, it's you who presumes too much.

But this conversation is ended, as I am using my time to make masks for Emory Hospital. I find it will be far more rewarding than listening to your nonsense.

God bless and stay safe.
---kathr4453 on 3/25/20

Kathr, you assume way too much. I do believe in the scriptures. I believe in the God of Abaham, Issac, and Jacob. I believe God sent his Son to this world.

You not understanding something, not knowing me personally, and spreading rumors about me is forbidden in the bible. If you are going to chastise me, do it in love - not hatred.

Search the bible yourself to see what I say is the truth not from some denominational "church" that you belong.
---Steveng on 3/24/20

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Steveng showed he doesn't believe in the Scriptures " literally" either, as he clearly posted on another blog right now. YIKES. These are heretics folks. Yet he argued for Psalms 91 as your sure protection along with his berry's and Jim Bakkers SILVER whatever. The Government and many agencies gave already exposed these snake oil salesman.

Steveng' s basement CULT is a warning not to join these self proclaimed guru's.
---kathr4453 on 3/24/20

I don't believe in supplements.

For example, vitamin C. Scientist think extracting only the vitamin C from an orange and putting it into a pill works. But it doesn't. It takes ALL the elements of the orange to make the vitamin C work properly in the body. One, of many, important element in an orange, or any plant, is boron. Boron is an activator which opens each cell of the body to accept vitamin C. Do some research of boron. Research has shown that you dont necessarily get the full benefits from isolated substances, such as vitamins and minerals supplements, as compared to when they occur naturally in foods. Another important element is zinc which makes the Vit C work harder within the cell.
---Steveng on 3/23/20

RichardC what we may see is something along the same mentality. Trumps team has to continually walk back Trumps alternate reality. We just may see some fired only to see yes men put in their place. He's been doing this since he came into ofice. Same evil cover up. If that does happen, God help us.
---kathr4453 on 3/23/20

A Ophthalmoliogist from Wuhan China Name Dr. Li Wenliang : Went on line in a Chat room in December of 2019 To warn other doctor of a New flu, Told them about the Corona Flu,

The Chinese Goverment made him make a statement ,That what he said was a lie

Dr. Li Wenliang Die from the Coronavirus
---Richard_C on 3/22/20

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KATHR. Again, your politically driven hate is driving you into a unhinged state.

I never even mentioned the Corona virus, nor its other known titles like Covid 19, the Chinese virus, etc. These titles are not even political. Instead, I countered your point about cattle with facts about Wuhans prosperity, etc, and the Chinese culture of consuming wild animals we westerners find objectionable.

Regarding politics, I was actually referring to your politically driven hate where in this time of crisis its YOU who takes a political stance against news sources like Fox, and also against Jerry who wasnt even referring to Fox News in his post.

You need to get out of that Leftist cult of hate and lies.
---Haz27 on 3/23/20

Steveng, you forgot listing Jim Bakkers snake oil formula too.

Also no one asked Haz27 to pipe in and FIRST make his false hateful statement to me. Funny how you hypocrites only see what you want.
---kathr4453 on 3/23/20

There are a number of foods you can eat to protect you from coronaviruse: elderberry, echinacea, colloidal silver, and a few others. Do your research.
---Steveng on 3/22/20

So let's all put our faith now in food and suppliments? This virus is not scared off by anyone tying garlic around the neck eitber. What scripture too makes such statements? And what about people who have no access to these food suppliments. Are they people God picked out to die? And If this had truth, medical workers would be Taking in place of protective geer.

Giving false information is murder.
---kat453 on 3/23/20

Kathr, first of all, your response to Haz is very unchristian.

Do you even know what a coronavirus is? A coronavirus infects the upper respiratory system. There are many coronaviruses: SARS, MERS, HIV, pneumonia, etc.

also, bats (and snakes) have been eaten by humans for thousands of years - even unto this day. Besides the Asian countries, South America, Eastern Europe, Africa, and along the Mississippi River in the United States.

There are a number of foods you can eat to protect you from coronaviruse: elderberry, echinacea, colloidal silver, and a few others. Do your research.
---Steveng on 3/22/20

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OH Haz 27, your comment has made me LOLAROTF. calling it anything other than by its name: Coronavirus. Calling it anything else IS TURNING IT POLITICAL. Dahhhhhhh! And that political renaming is HATE DRIVEN as we are seeing this already in our country. Your ignorant comments are expected always.

You are so dope. What a riot are so funny Haz27, you should do stand up comedy so people can boo you and run you off stage. Only cowards hide behind their laptop and post Moronic political posts in time of a world wide health hazard.

I do hope folks reading this KNOW who is being political here, AND for the purpose of the blame game, it's obvious who the morons ignoramuses are fueling this hatred.
---kathr4453 on 3/22/20

KATHR. Dont let your politically driven hate blind you.

BTW, Fox is a far more reliable source than Fake news outlets like CNN, NYT, BBC, etc.

And as for your suggestion to export cattle to Whuhan China so that they dont have to eat wild animals, FYI Whuhan is located in an agricultural hub in China, and in that central China region its considered to be the political, economic, financial, commercial, cultural and educational center, hence theyre not in desperate circumstances being forced to eats bats, etc.

Chinese culture has long indulged in consuming wild animals that we in the West find unacceptable. I recall on my trip to the Canton region of China seeing a local rice wine with one day old baby mice added to it.
---Haz27 on 3/21/20

This is not called BAT FLU, nor Chinese flue or Chinese virus. It's called the Coronavirus. Just as MAD COW ...we can eat cow by the way, came from unclean practices of feeding cows ...dead cows.....or something like that. Yet what scripture in the bible forbids cows from eating dead cows? like they had a choice in their feed. The cows didn't sin, but mans idea of making this and putting in their feed created a health hazard for the cows and humans.

Multitudes eat lobster, shrimp etc, which was considered unclean as well. Yet the cleanliness and sanitary practices in today's markets etc have made it safe to eat. But now that man has polluted and poisoned our oceans...more likely unsafe today more than ever.
---kathr4453 on 3/22/20

Wow just wow Jerry. I see you get your ignorance from Fox news.

Maybe we should export cattle etc to these countries so they are not reduced to having to eat wild animals. However the issue is unclean practices of these wet open markets . Research your posts first before spreading Fox news ignorance.
---kathr4453 on 3/21/20

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Although it is evident that this Bat Flu is overly hyped to induce panic, people are dying from it. The most probable theory of the Flu's origin is the eating of BAT by a Chinese man. The Bible proscribes the eating of unclean animals such as bat to protect us from such dangers. What a shame that alleged Christians see no harm in such abominable practices, insisting that Peter's sheet vision concerning religious bigotry is gives license to eat the unclean. Maybe that's where the Swine Flu came from. Why should we aid this disease by defending the abominable practice of eating the disgusting?

---jerry6593 on 3/21/20

I also believe we need to assure those of ETERNAL life, not temporal life by proclaiming the Gospel of the Grace of God.

Paul was still beheaded, Peter still killed, Stephen was stoned to death etc etc long before their time of a natural death, all were awesome examples to us didn't fear physical death or point to PSALMS 91 in time of need. JS1234 GAVE A PERFECT VERSE THEY LIVED BY. It actually reiterates OSAS.
---kathr4453 on 3/18/20

Steven, I've lived through Psalms 91 personally and know it by heart. Unless you have, personally, you may want to just listen instead of misleading others. Many Christians have DIED, being persecuted, tortured, disease etc for thousands of years who also knew this chapter. How dare you accuse them of not having ENOUGH FAITH.
---kathr4453 on 3/18/20

Kathr, you may want to read Psalms 91 again very slowly. It is not about spiritual warfare - it's aobut protecting his people from getting hurt.
---Steveng on 3/17/20

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Christians shouldn't fear death no matter how one dies. Just can't say it enough, those IN CHRIST , having already been baptized into His death shouldn't fear our own passing from this life to the next.

There's no guarantee sickness, cancer, tornado's , hurricanes, etc etc will not come near Christians. It has already for thousands of years. Psalms 91 is scripture that brought me through a most trying time is about spiritual warfare. As long as we live on this earth, we will way or another. Just know those IN CHRIST have Peace with God.
---kathr4453 on 3/14/20

If we live, we live in the Lord. If we die, we die in the Lord. God bless all of you. Be happy.
---JS1234 on 3/14/20

One feature of this virus is it can have very hard effects on elderly people. But if we are older, now we can be more mature and know better how to love, so we are examples for younger people, not helping younger ones to grow up fearing old age and thinking old age is horrible and to be feared.

But in the past we have had older ones who have been helping younger ones to fear old age. So, forgive such ones and do not be fooled by them. With Jesus, now we can have His joy,

"and your joy no one will take from you." (in John 16:22)

Repent of how we have not done this, and give our attention to God, instead (c: Trust God, and prepare to die well . . . however He has planned.
---Bill on 3/14/20

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