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Jews from many tribes do live in America, South America, Canada, Russia, Ethiopia etc...
---kathr4453 on 4/12/21

Judah is the name of one tribe. The sons of Israel are never called jews collectively. Each son has his own end time prophecy. Their own place around the world. Families, legacies and blessings and will be gathered. Whether in your revised Bible or not. I post verses you don't really want them to see. Strange...for a christian/jew.

You are jewish you said, Sephardic? Ashkenazi, ethiopian? You never clarified.... you avoiding telling a little story in print?
Is your Apostle, student, jewish also?

Eze 48:19And they that serve the city shall serve it out of all the tribes of Israel.
---Trav on 4/12/21

Romans 3:13-15
13 Their throat is an open sepulchre, with their tongues they have used deceit, the poison of asps is under their lips:14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:

So ok Trav, now that that's out of the way, the answer is NO TRAV, GENTILES ARE NOT Jewish nations. And There is only ONE Jewish nation God recognizes,,,,JERUSALEM, ISRAEL. The very land God gave Israel...ALL 12-14 Tribes, you will see clearly shown in Joshua. They are coming back to this land Earthly Jerusalem...Isaiah 14...out of all nations. America, a geographical area made up of various peoples are not a tribe. But Jews from many tribes do live in America, South America, Canada, Russia, Ethiopia etc...
---kathr4453 on 4/12/21

There is no such thing as 12 NATIONS of Israel.
And YES one day THE CHURCH will judge Israel.
---kathr4453 on 4/12/21

Whoaaaa Nellie, sorry I used Nations, it would be 12 Gentiles for your understanding. Gentiles can mean, Nations, ethnos, etc, etc, but, realizing you have only found 1 out of the twelve.... here are the rest of them... Reuben, Simeon and Levi ,Judah, Zebulun, Issachar, Dan, Gad, Asher, Naphtali, Joseph, Benjamin.... and Ephraim and Manasseh which count as one. You seem to want to be your own but, cant find the fourteenth tribe of nonsense so hmmmm.
Rev 3:9.....say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie, behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
---Trav on 4/12/21

Jury? As a non believer in a Twelve nation of Israel, it wont mean anything to you. But, it will to many conservative Americans.
Mat 19:28....., ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Rev 21:12......:
---Trav on 4/11/21

There is no such thing as 12 NATIONS of Israel. And what do conservative Americans have to do with it? YIKES. And to think America is a nation of Israel and Canada is not.....NEITHER ARE . The Nation of Israel (SINGULAR) one day will reclaim ALL THE LAND GOD GAVE THEM.....IN JERUSALEM. God never gave America to Israel..... and don't forget all of Rev 21....THE APOSTLES (NT ) represent THE CHURCH....ARE THE WALLS. And YES one day THE CHURCH will judge Israel.
---kathr4453 on 4/12/21

TRAV, they are substantiated by the prophets and Christ. Your doctrine however is a newby and is not. Yours is a spin off of the SDA.

All the scripture I've posted is right out of scripture. Ezekiel was a prophet and Ezekiel 36 CLEARLY SHOW this prophecy has not yet come to pass.

So insulting others trying to look all that actually makes you look all not that.
---kathr4453 on 4/11/21


I think it was donated to the Democrats, by not having a qualified candidate representing the Republican Party. And before this the Democrats donated the presidency to Donald, by running Hillary.

It seems parties take turns donating the election to the other party.
---Bill on 4/11/21

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control, against such there is no law. And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

Galatians 5:22-24
---JS1234 on 4/11/21

What do jurors have to do with anything?
---StrongAxe on 4/10/21

The reason you can never refute specifically any scripture Ive posted for these many years, is because your 200 year old false doctrines are not substantiated by prophets or Christ. But, your caustic retorts sure make opportunity to post them.

Jury? As a non believer in a Twelve nation of Israel, it wont mean anything to you. But, it will to many conservative Americans.
Mat 19:28....., ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Rev 21:12......twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:
---Trav on 4/11/21

What IS in dispute is your claim>I showned this cannot have happened yet,.
---StrongAxe on 4/10/21

Showned? You've shown nothing.....specific except a blind eye.
Dispute.... yes, guess it would be that term. You with scripture that Ive posted. I.e, You against Prophets, against Christ who fulfilled prophets.
Rom 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, .....
Heb 9:15......redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
Heb 9:16 For where a testament is, also of necessity be the death of the testator.
Heb 9:17 ... it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
---Trav on 4/10/21


I have not taught law. However, outlandish claims, i.e. that "divorced Israel" have accepted Christ, demand proof. You also claim some people have "the law of God in their hearts". The Bible says these will eventually happen. What IS in dispute is your claim they already happened.

I showned this cannot have happened yet, as people who HAVE the law in their hearts no longer need teachers to teach it to them - yet there is no group alive today that is Christian by nature without having teachers.

What do jurors have to do with anything?
---StrongAxe on 4/10/21

Also, what people have "the law in their hearts"? Be specific.

---StrongAxe on 4/9/21

Specific... like you? Ha. Who have you taught law? Be specific.
Telling is your acidic reply. Because you have no laws in your heart you presume every one else doesn't.
And your belief that Christ failed and Apostles when he sent them for the Lost Sheep.
Its not hard to find a people that established a court system utilizing 12 jurors. A country that gives 50 billion a year in aid to other countries, the Churches another 50 billion. An ever greater amount to people calling themselves jews.
True you don't seem to have the marks of a sheep but, you'll sure eat on the benefits of them.
---Trav on 4/9/21


You wrote: So he came to his own Judah, they received him not.... but, divorced Israel has.

Really? When and where did that happen? What evidence do you have of this? If you're referring to the British Israel theory, that pseudo-scientific belief has been refuted by archaeological, ethnological, genetic, cultural, and linguistic research.

Also, what people have "the law in their hearts"? Be specific. Remember, people who have the law written on their hearts have no need for anyone to teach them the law.
---StrongAxe on 4/9/21

Many judges who threw cases out were Republicans, and quite a few were Trump appointees. Confirmed? Prove it. Show EXACTLY where and by whom.---StrongAxe

Though Georgia didnt fight it, the actions they took pertaining to the new voter ID law, speaks loud enough. The legislature must have seen some evidence which provoked this action.

If they didnt suspect fraud, why do you believe they took this action....after the election?
---David on 4/9/21

There's no universal salvation for Israel just because they are Jews.
---kathr4453 on 4/7/21

Ahhhh but all Israel are not Judah/jews. There were 12 other sons.... with their own prophecies. Your teacher kinda left these out of your lesson. it appears.
The Nth House, the lost Sheep of Israel are the purpose of Christ. Matt 15:24.
Joh 1:11He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

So he came to his own Judah, they received him not.... but, divorced Israel has.
Your own cousins, as a Jewess. They are all around you. With laws in their heart as identifiers. A mystery that youve never looked or acknowledged... and you a self proclaimed jewess.
Are you Sephardic or Ashkenazi Jew?
---Trav on 4/8/21


Courts refused testimony that was not "evidence". Direct testimony requires witnessing, e.g. "I saw them altering ballots". Opinion and hearsay are not, e.g. "I saw them unloading boxes that I assume were ballots", or "Marge said she saw someone altering ballots", or "Sue has a friend who said she saw someone altering ballots". ALL evidence presented was of this inadmissable type.

The Bible requires "two or three witnesses". Hearsay is not admissible, and is called gossip, and universally condemned.

Many judges who threw cases out were Republicans, and quite a few were Trump appointees.

Confirmed? Prove it. Show EXACTLY where and by whom.
---StrongAxe on 4/8/21

Mat 15:18But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart, and they defile the man.
(or wo-man)

Joh 6:38For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

Mat 10:6But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel

Mat 15:24But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Psa 130:7Let Israel hope in the LORD: for with the LORD there is mercy, and with him is plenteous redemption.
Psa 130:8he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities.
Gal 4:5To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
Gal 4:28Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
---Trav on 4/8/21

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Multitude of Jews have died and will die without knowing Jesus as their LORD and savior. It's appointed for man once to die and then the judgement. There's no universal salvation for Israel just because they are Jews. An example who died IN THEIR SIN who refused to go into the Promise Land ANOTHER PROMISE they refused to take.... And they died without receiving the Promise. Hebrews 3-4 compare that to salvation .

So TRAV to have such a bazaar attitude towards Israel who are lost is telling. YOU ARE NOT PREACHING THE GOSPEL OF SALVATION. During the Great TRIB Zechariah 12-14 only 1/3 will be saved to enter into an earthly Kingdom. What about folks TODAY. There is no earthly Kingdom to enter into YET. You are no different than Judas.
---kathr4453 on 4/7/21

ax: "How about "conservative lies"? Where is EVIDENCE election was stolen?"

It was presented to the fed courts who refused to look at it for political reasons. It is now coming out in state courts, and election fraud has been confirmed. But you won't see that on CNN or MSNBC.

---jerry6593 on 4/7/21

Those like Trav who preach Kingdom Now theology are betraying Jesus today just as Judas did in his day. That's the problem with those who don't study to show themselves approved of God RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD OF TRUTH. Judas failing to realize the OT ALSO prophesied the death and resurection of Jesus , and ONLY seeing KINGDOM NOW promises, betrayed Jesus. Today, those who omit the CHURCH AGE , the dispensation of Grace..Ephesians 3:2-13 Paul,CLEARLY STATES , is not KINGDOM NOW THEOLOGY are as Judas, and is what John 6 is all about. READ THE WHOLE CHAPTER. But even more heartbreaking is Trav doctrine is anti-Semitic to the core. False teachers will be judged.
---kathr4453 on 4/6/21

---kathr4453 on 4/6/21

Tomorrow is fine with them. Everlasting is a longggggg promise.

2Sa 7:24For thou hast confirmed to thyself thy people Israel to be a people unto thee for ever: and thou, LORD, art become their God.

1Ki 6:13And I will dwell among the children of Israel, and will not forsake my people Israel.

sa 45:17But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.
---Trav on 4/6/21

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TRAV, seeing Romans 11 has not come to completion, seeing the fullness of the Gentiles have not all come in yet not ALL ISRAEL is saved YET. I'm sorry you get so angry when confronted with the truth and resort to bullying. That IS what you are doing.

The deliver has not yet COME OUT IF SION.. 'SION' meaning heaven meaning the 2nd coming of Christ HAS NOT HAPPENED. I'm sorry Armstrongism has strong-armed you into only memorizing certain scripture where you can't discuss here without resorting to spiritual abuse ... A sign of a CULT.

ALL ISRAEL IS NOT SAVED TODAY, and won't be until Jesus returns. That's a fact. Deal with it. This IS what scripture teaches. YOU are not scripture.
---kathr4453 on 4/6/21

No one is infuriated.....
---kathr4453 on 4/4/21

Hmmm sounds like you put yourself in the group i posted, false teacher preacher types.
Christians as youve noticed here never shout in print make up lies, names or false generalizations to oppose scripture they dont want posted. They appear to have laws in their......
you finish the sentence.

Lev 20:26ye shall be holy unto me: for I the LORD am holy, and have severed you from other people, that ye should be mine.
Isa 48:11For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another.
---Trav on 4/5/21

No one is infuriated TRAV. BLESS YOUR HEART you care about unbelieving Jews. But don't mislead them into putting their faith in a doctrine made up by Armstrongism, where today DNA has completely exposed this false doctrine.

All saved TODAY . "TODAY IS THE DAY OF SALVATION" whether Jew or Gentile will be saved from the wrath to come....the time of Jacob's trouble. Jeremiah 30.

You seem to have something of a paranoid attitude that Christians are infuriated .... Not even close. Not sure where that is coming from, but the way you answer you seem to believe this. RELAX TRAV. That's all in your head, or something taught to you. Those who LOVE THE LORD are not your enemy. Happy Easter TRAV. CHRIST IS RISEN. PREACH THAT.
---kathr4453 on 4/4/21

Ok TRAV so it sounds like you have no problem preaching the Gospel to ALL LOST SINNERS, no matter who. Praise God.
---kathr4453 on 4/3/21

The ethnos Lost Sheep are always positively to their Shepherds words if the Lord calls them.
Others the worlds false preachers, teachers are infuriated.... as they were in Christs day.
Joh 15:18If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
Psa 44:11Thou hast given us like sheep appointed for meat, and hast scattered us among the heathen
Psa 44:14Thou makest us a byword among the heathen, a shaking of the head among the people.
---Trav on 4/3/21

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Ok TRAV so it sounds like you have no problem preaching the Gospel to ALL LOST SINNERS, no matter who. Praise God.
---kathr4453 on 4/3/21

Trav, if you feel you are called to share the Gospel with the Jews,....
---kathr4453 on 4/3/21

When it occurs. They authentic agree with scripture.... besides they were never divorced..... Christ died freeing them also. Note Jer 31:31, Heb 8:8. Both say.... And Judah.
Wow such and important little word..... for seekers of truth.

For Sheep or non sheep wanting more freedom, and seeking scripture note the number 10 used on NT. And the woman at the well has a deeper story line about her father.
---Trav on 4/3/21

Trav, if you feel you are called to share the Gospel with the Jews, I suggest showing them Isaiah 53 and paring that up with the NT showing the person in Isaiah 53 is none other than Jesus Christ who died for our sin, having our sin placed upon Him where He took our judgement of Gods wrath upon Himself... That the promised Messiah is actually JESUS CHRIST whom they crucified and rejected. They will remain LOST as long as they reject Jesus as the Son of God.

You may want to start withJewish communities, or synagogues here. Jews are not hard to find. I think it's wonderful, a Gentile like yourself wants to witness to Jews. Praise God. Show them James and Peter that it's BY FAITH they enter in. Hebrews 3-4 will explain.
---kathr4453 on 4/3/21


Things are true or false, regardless of who says them.
As to my or kathr's personal lives, those are none of your business. You haven't shared yours either.
---StrongAxe on 4/2/21

Your truths are never backed with proof. A tell for us to beware.
Think I see and understand your fear.... based on what you say, don't or cant say here. Noticed you spoke for katr too. But will never know you very well because of your fear.
Well Ive shared several personal things here...but, here is more being unafraid in that they are normal except to liberals. Married 45 yrs, to a woman, same one, kids, grandkids.... all glad to support a Republican if he is a Trump or supporter of. We are un-denom Sheep hunters.
---Trav on 4/2/21

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Things are true or false, regardless of who says them.

In Canada and other developed countries, everybody gets health care. Nobody is denied because they can't pay. Nobody is bankrupted by high hospital bills. EXCEPT here. Millions are uninsured. So how is here "better?". Even universal health care opponent Rand Paul went to "socialist" Canada for treatment.

I keep giving you truths, but you ignore them, accuse me of lies, but never prove they're lies. Name ONE and prove it's a lie.

What "things I've avoided talking about"? You want a direct answer, ask a direct question. As to my or kathr's personal lives, those are none of your business. You haven't shared yours either.
---StrongAxe on 4/2/21


You keep accusing Biden of being a socialist. What is your evidence for that? People who are ACTUAL socialists hate Biden, because he's far to the right of their position.

What "un-christian" platforms? Be specific.

I have repeatedly shown that progressive counties like Denmark have the lowest abortion rates in the world - much lower than U.S., by addressing the cause (unwanted pregnancies) rather than the symptom (abortion), and people who REALLY want to reduce "baby-killing" would do a better job of it by following such countries' examples - yet you have never once replied to this. Why not?

How about "conservative lies"? Where is EVIDENCE election was stolen?
---StrongAxe on 4/2/21 the republic for which it stands, won't appeal to a demo-socialist."
The pledge of allegiance was originated by a...socialist.
---HenryK on 3/31/21

Well this was a little interesting, i chased it a little. Nothing i found stated what type socialist he was. The word itself, like his being a Baptist/Freemason leaves room for conjecture. America is a Republic, no where is democracy, a form of socialism mentioned in our constitution. My disgust with the individual who is not a citizen and verbally fawning for a liberal demo/socialist candidate. What stands out more is the un-christian platforms the degenerate leader we have now supports, and this self contradicting christian? guy? was fawning for the candidate.
---Trav on 4/1/21

I'm not talking about "swaying an election". I'm just talking about truth. If truth can sway an election, it ought to be swayed.
---StrongAxe on 3/29/21

Ha ... CNN,MSNBC liberal lies are where you got your truths it appeared. You swayed alright but, not with any truths. Give us a truth.
Tell us the personal reason you worked up a froth over one of the two best presidents weve had in my lifetime.
Your not even a citizen.... are you here for the superior health care vs Canada?
Come on... no one knows you here, you like a good controversy, so let it out, the things youve been so careful to avoid talking about all these years. Another question, are you and katr married? Kids, grandkids?
---Trav on 4/1/21

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"Not being a native of this country our pledge of allegiance, and to the republic for which it stands, won't appeal to a demo-socialist."
The pledge of allegiance was originated by a...socialist. The only oath of allegiance before the "pledge" gained popularity was the oath to support the constitution, required of all public officers, federal and state.
"Francis Julius Bellamy (May 18, 1855 August 28, 1931) was an American "Christian" socialist minister and author,[1] best known for writing the original version of the US Pledge of Allegiance in 1892."
[1] "Grand Lodge of BC and Yukon profile of Bellamy". Freemasonry . bcy . ca.
"" around "Christian" added.
---HenryK on 3/31/21


I'm not talking about "swaying an election". I'm just talking about truth. If truth can sway an election, it ought to be swayed.

Just recently, Arizona Republicans were before a judge, trying to justify their new proposed restrictive voting laws, because those laws don't do anything to make elections safer. They actually said they NEED those laws, because without them, they wouldn't be able to compete against Democrats.

Let that sink in. They're saying "We can't win without changing the rules". If you're playing a game and you can't win fairly without changing the rules of the game (i.e. cheating), maybe you should rethink your strategy.
---StrongAxe on 3/29/21

Thanks for standing up for truth.

Party of Satan (the Democrats).

Sam: We've listened to your Trump hatred for years.
---jerry6593 on 3/27/21

Lotta anti-American unpatriotic imposters out there. Why does a guy who is not even a citizen try to sway an election on Christian blog site. Personal reasons. Reasons they are scared to admit in public. There were 3 main platform reasons.... to stand with the most evil idiot that ever held office.
Ha...Exactly, you. are saying these out loud right now. Three that 71 million are discussing right now.
Well the party won but, lost....
2Th 2:11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
---Trav on 3/29/21


I follow the same math as EVERY single court in this country that ruled on the subject. Many of those judges were Republicans, and quite a few were Trump appointees.

What "stolen votes from Trump and lots of dead people and fake ballots", exactly? Be specific.

There is ZERO evidence of that, even after dozens of recounts and audits. Republicans had TWO MONTHS before Congress tallied electoral votes to present evidence. Why didn't they? They had THREE MORE MONTHS since then. Still nothing. It's all lies, propaganda and tale-bearing with no witnesses - which the Bible condemns.

Yes, there WAS a small amount of election fraud found and prosecuted. In EVERY SINGLE CASE, done by Republicans.
---StrongAxe on 3/27/21

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Thanks for standing up for truth. It is becoming scarce in modern America. It is inconceivable to me how anyone - even those in my own denomination - can openly support the Marxist Party of Satan (the Democrats). Just Look at how much damage the pitiful Joe Biden has done in just over two months.

The axster's faulty CNN math shows Biden with the majority of support. That's because he includes stolen votes from Trump and lots of dead people and fake ballots. The truth is slowly coming out. If only we had courts and State legislatures that would live up to their oaths of office.

Sam: It is you Dems who are the HATERS. We've listened to your Trump hatred for years.

---jerry6593 on 3/27/21


74 million are with Trump, but 81 million are with Biden.
---StrongAxe on 2/23/21

For rebuke to have merit it needs to be accurate. Uhhh you fell short in a few areas. Not being a native of this country our pledge of allegiance , and to the republic for which it stands, wont appeal to a demo-socialist.
Were getting an immediate taste of the evil you call good, who you defended, promoted. Yuk. But, we 74 million already knew..... what youve yet to learn.
Youll fade away one of these days like you did in canada.

Isa 5:20Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil, that put darkness for light, and light for darkness, that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
---Trav on 2/25/21


74 million are with Trump, but 81 million are with Biden. The 81 million are in the majority, so they get to set the agenda for the country for the next four years. That's how democratic societies work. It's only totalitarian states that allow minorities to rule.

The U.S. is not a direct democracy. The president is chosen by electors, rather than the popular vote. In 2016, Trump lost the popular vote, but won the electoral vote in a landslide (306 out of the required 270 votes). However, in 2020, Biden won both the popular vote, AND the electoral vote by the same landslide Trump won by in 2016.

(Jesus also set the Golden Rule. Don't rebuke others unless you're willing to accept rebuke from others as well.)
---StrongAxe on 2/23/21

You are spreading hate. That is not what Jesus would do.
---Samuelbb7 on 2/20/21

Well... 74 million, Mostly Christians are with Jerry. Me as well.
Jerry never said he hated them. He rebuked them.
Who sold out here? Jerry? Jerry doesnt appear lukewarm to me.
Did Jerry use word hate?
Rebuking is not hate.... it is caring enough to point out errors. Rewarded by the way. Lukewarm makes every man and GOD wanna spit.

Pro 27:5Open rebuke is better than secret love.

Christ called people foxes, dogs, serpents,vipers, devils and dogs.

Pro 8:13The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
---Trav on 2/23/21

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Dear Jerry I am a Seventh day Adventist and I love GOD and follow Jesus. I also love my country and have had many family members who served our county. Ove a third of the armed forces are Democrats.

You are spreading hate. That is not what Jesus would do.

Please choose to spread love not hate. Let us keep our eyes on Jesus.
---Samuelbb7 on 2/20/21

Matthew 19:8....Because of the hardness of your hearts,.....
---RichardC on 2/16/21

GOD divorcing the Nth House of Israel below...
Jer 3:8 I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce, yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.
Mat 19:9 I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
GOD bringing Nth House back... through Christ. Jer 31:31/Heb 8:8 Heb 8:8 ....I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
---Trav on 2/17/21

Matthew 19:8 - He said to them, Moses, Because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce you wives, but from the beginning it was not so.
---RichardC on 2/16/21

Face it ... Democrats are traitors.

---jerry6593 on 2/16/21

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Well I guess its because God gave us the right to divorce.

When a man hath taken a wife and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favor in his eyes because he hath found some uncleanness in her, then let him write her a bill of divorcement, give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. (Deut 24:1)
---David on 1/23/21

Good reply vs an abomination that creates nothing but, confusion and exposes the rest of us to their foul diseases, aids, all the hepatitis groups.
Never spoken of false preacher / teachers is GOD divorce. Jer 3:8. The scriptures on remarriage explains the remainder of scripture. Blind and deafness explains the lack of discourse on both by the cemetery (seminary) indoctrinated denoms.
---Trav on 2/12/21

ax: "Many Christian "prophets" still insist he won the election, despite that obviously being not true"

Prophet or no, he still won by a landslide. There was and still is much enthusiasm for Trump. Have you seen any for Biden? What do you like best about him?

Do you admit that all the Dems have against him is one hoax after another? Or do you contend that he did collude with the Russians in the 2016 election, took a bribe from Ukraine, and cause the DC riot - all Dem crimes.

---jerry6593 on 2/12/21

....what Trump did was exploit that mindset of this strain of Christianity, using abortion as the hook,......
---kathr4453 on 2/6/21

Uhhhh.... the 64,000,000 that is Sixty Four Million abortions you casually dismiss (wasnt you, right) would be, and Will be Trump voters. 64 million who will testify for him and against your woke-ness,when it matters. Not one will vote for you.
Yeah this Strain of Christianity is still in your head now.... 4 more years and for- eva.
Isa 59:21As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD, My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the
---Trav on 2/11/21

"Antifa" is literally a contraction of "anti-fascism"..
---StrongAxe on 2/10/21

Ya know, contradiction, is true. What you defend, who you stand with is who you are. Antifa, like your non American self were still in opposition to Trump and his Christian principles. Stand with the abominations.... you show yourself post-worthy of membership of ANTI-fa.
Their violence being confused and led by libs and media.
Truth in scripture or politics is not a strength of theirs or yours.
74 million of us are fond of best president in our lifetime. He and us are in your head ... always will be..... fondly your.... political/spiritual adversary on earth.
---Trav on 2/10/21

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"Antifa" is literally a contraction of "anti-fascism". WW2 was fought to defeat fascism in Germany and Italy.

You're right about "The heart of fools proclaimeth foolishness".

Every Republican administration in the past half century has created a recession, while every Democratic administration has pulled us out of the last one Republicans created, yet conservatives still vote Republican "for the economy".

Conservatives vote for a candidate that breaks every biblical commandment and boasts about it - "for morality and Christian values".

Many Christian "prophets" still insist he won the election, despite that obviously being not true.
---StrongAxe on 2/10/21

.....replay of Cnn on ChritaNet Just what Christianity needs, more political experts
---michael_e on 1/25/21

Ha,they have each other to support their own ANTIFA /Woke (wake up) insanity. What they never realize is Trump has gotten in their heads for ever.
Ha, revealing information on personal stands in the form of Legends in our own minds. Brilliant, priceless....

ro 12:23A prudent man concealeth knowledge: but the heart of fools proclaimeth foolishness.
ro 15:2The tongue of the wise useth knowledge aright: but the mouth of fools poureth out foolishness.

---Trav on 2/9/21

Strongaxe, well atleast there are those who know the scriptures and know false prophets are not of God. God bless those who believe it and don't fall for it. Interestingly Paul teaches that those who belong to the Lord have been and or being exercised ( trained up ) to be able to discern both good and evil. God is exercising us because He cares about His and just as we train up our children not to go off with strangers, is the same love God has for us.

Those who claim to be sinless yet have no discernment is questionable just doesn't go hand in hand. The SAME Holy Spirit that convicts of sin IS ALSO OUR TEACHER IN THESE MATTERS.
---kathr4453 on 2/6/21

Yes. These people who call themselves prophets want all the power and prestige that the title "prophet" carries, without any of the responsibility that goes along with it. (I.e. in Old Testament times, even one single wrong prediction got you stoned to death). I doubt that any of them would keep boasting of such predictions, if we still held them to those same standards.
---StrongAxe on 2/6/21

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Strongaxe, many who call themselves Christians have put their faith in the false GOSPEL OF AMERICA, that actually is opposed to the Constitution and democracy. They believe God is going to turn this country into a Theocracy it allows them the right to believe as they do., and unfortunately mislead others . I believe what Trump did was exploit that mindset of this strain of Christianity, using abortion as the hook, so he could come in and become the King of King and Lord of Lords over America forever, or until someone WOKE. We see it didn't happen, because there is no Gospel of Ametica to begin with, and God was never in it. But, just like those who gives dates for the rapture....they don't apologize, they just change the date.
---kathr4453 on 2/6/21


It's sad many Christians put their faith in a man who obviously displays many anti-Christian traits, but worse is Christian leaders (who out to know better, as they're expected to know their Bibles) did so. Worst is many self-proclaimed Christian "prophets" that predicted he would win re-election in a landslide and would be inaugurated on Jan. 20 - and when he wasn't, instead of admitting they were wrong, STILL insist he's "actually" the president - clearly delusional.

The Old Testament clearly says one should NOT listen to prophets who make predictions that aren't true. They are to be taken outside the city and stoned to death. Fortunately for them, we don't do that anymore.
---StrongAxe on 2/5/21

I certainly don't see any benefit in Christians being ignorant of our Constitution. We see that outcome of many Christian and non Christian being deceived, one that Mike Pence could overturn the election, WRONG...AND SEEING false prophets making bold statements that GOD is going to overthrow the evil democrats and Trump would remain in power. That never happened, but many believed and put their faith in these false prophets, being delighted in Jan 6. .....until reality blew up in their faces. Also turning a pandemic into politics...calling it a hoax, where many Christians have died believing this falsehood. CNN, MCNBS etc have been telling the truth. FOX, where many Christians go, have lied....and are still lying.
---kathr4453 on 1/25/21

A replay of Cnn on ChritaNet Just what Christianity needs, more political experts
---michael_e on 1/25/21

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What this extreme group really wants is to overthrow democracy. That's what happened in Germany. They had a democracy. They now want GOVERNMENT to control voting etc, taking away STATES RIGHTS. They preach one thing but are trying to implement the opposite, because they think people are stupid. Becareful what you ask for. Did Germany KNOW what Hitlers goals were? Or just find themselves in a nightmare they let happen?

We've been given all the warning signs, etc. we also know according to scripture times are going to get worse and worse. Seeing anti-Christ right around the corner...I would never put my trust in a LIAR. I bet Mike Pence is now realizing that too. Trump tried to have a CHRISTIAN MURDERED FOLKS.....WAKE UP.
---kathr4453 on 1/25/21


Joe Biden won via constitutionally-mandated process. Trump lost ALL lawsuits. If you don't like a result, you can sue, but if you lose, TOUGH. THE COURTS HAVE SPOKEN.

NO Republicans have demonstrated ANY evidence of a stolen election, despite two months and 60+ lawsuits.

Which borders did Biden "refuse to defend"? That is also not a "crime". The Commander in Chief decides WHICH borders need defending.

REPUBLICAN-RUN Senate Intel Committee found Russian collusion.

Impeachment is on Congress, NOT the President.

Troops sleeping on Capitol floor BEFORE THE INAUGURATION could not be on non-yet-president Biden.

Try again. You REALLY need to learn some civics.
---StrongAxe on 1/24/21

ax: "Tell me, what, exactly, has Joe Biden done in the past 48 hours that is a "high crime"?"

Took a job he didn't deserve since his election was a fraud.

Took foreign campaign contributions.

Put America at risk by refusing to defend our borders.

Used our troops as camera props and then made them sleep on cold concrete floors.

Lied about Trump's collusion with Russia/Ukraine when he was the actual treasonous perp.

Unfounded impeachment attempts against Trump.

And many, many other crimes.

---jerry6593 on 1/24/21


I have lived in the US longer than any other country. This is my home. I contribute to the economy of this country, just like anyone else who lives here. That I don't have citizenship papers is a technicality. Jesus didn't either (and some would have considered him a foreigner, as came from Egypt).

Impeachment is a specific constitutional process used to remove a president for "high crimes and misdemeanors". It was used against Trump TWICE, and justifiably so. The first time was for attempting to interfere with the 2020 election. The second time was for encouraging his followers to stage a violent coup.

Tell me, what, exactly, has Joe Biden done in the past 48 hours that is a "high crime"?
---StrongAxe on 1/22/21

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Nurse: The axster is not an American. That's why I said MY country.

Is it too soon to . . .

---jerry6593 on 1/22/21


You wrote: ax: I imagine you are joyous now that MY country has been stolen by your Communist comrades.

Comments like those above are exactly what is wrong with people who think as you do. This is not YOUR country. This is OUR country. It doesn't JUST belong to Democrats. It doesn't JUST belong to Republicans. It belongs to EVERYBODY, and EVERYBODY needs to live together and cooperate.

The past four years have demonstrated the opposite. 45 was divisive, and widened the rift between the two sides, so much that one side attempted a literally BLOODY COUP where 6 people died.

Also, Biden IS NOT A COMMUNIST. Progressives criticize him because he's too far to the right.
---StrongAxe on 1/21/21

Jerry, its not YOUR country. Its our country and it has a new president
---NurseRobert on 1/21/21

ax: I imagine you are joyous now that MY country has been stolen by your Communist comrades.

---jerry6593 on 1/21/21

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Carter - disappointing president, but a welcome change from Nixon's corruption. He now devotes his life to the Christian ideal of helping others less fortunate (Matt 25).

Obama never cheated on his wife and attends church regularly. Golf cheated on all three, golfs on Sunday instead of going to church (that he only goes to for photo ops), doesn't know the Bible at all - and despite claiming to be a Christian, his favorite Bible verse is the "eye for eye" part.

Bloody? The blood of all six who died in the coup attempt is on the RIGHT'S hands.

Republican Matt 25:
"I was hungry, and you cut my food stamps. I was sick, and you cut my health care. I was homeless, and you spiked park benches."
---StrongAxe on 1/20/21

They support a man who goes against everything in both testaments, because he pushes their agendas.
Look at Jimmy Carter. He is not political. He spends his retirement years building homes for the homeless, per Matthew 25.
---StrongAxe on 1/17/21

I agree, the current fraud in command goes against everything in both testaments. carter was a dud for a leader in a tie with muslim/james cone indoctrinated dud-bama.
Interesting thing about the liberal left... they are out now, visible, blind and bloody. And will be out in the end as leftist.

Mat 25:33And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

Goats, means wicked in this usage.
---Trav on 1/18/21


Lynda McLaughlin is Sean Hannity's producer - hardly an unbiased "expert".

Trump telling his supporters that they need to "fight", followed by hundreds storming the Capitol while ballots were counted, with plans to capture and execute Congressmen, Senators, and the Vice President for supposed "treason", is insurrection, which might be acceptable in a fascist dictatorship, but NOT here.

One of the women arrested is pleading for a pardon for Trump saying "She was just following his orders". Presidents don't give "orders" to citizens. Dictators do. Citizens are supposed to obey the Constitution and laws, not the President's tweets.
---StrongAxe on 1/18/21

That has been debunked RichardC, OLD NEWS. Had no proof or evidence to bring to court. Just more conspiracy theories.
Three counts, one by hand remember??? Trump lost 3 times in Ga. The Republicans also lost the Senate, No one is crying foul there.

To add to StrongAxe's statement. Seeing this new tape come out where the House Chamber was defiled, and these criminals praying in Jesus Name blasphemy. But it also shows just how Trump EXPLOITED those who say they are Christians, ( they are apostates) who now will be going to prison minimum 10 years will use it to cry persecution, AGAIN TWISTING TRUTH . God NEVER instructed Christians to overthrow governments. Jesus said.... MY KINGDOM IS NOT OF THIS WORLD.
---kathr4453 on 1/18/21

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Check Out - Lynda McLaughlin : Data Integrity Group
---RichardC on 1/17/21

It's sad how many Republicans (and Christians) jumped on the Q-anon conspiracy bandwagon. Q-anon puts fort baseless and wild conspiracy theories. Christians should have no part of such nonsense.

The Bible often says accusations require "two or three witnesses". This ought to eliminate idle gossip, since that is spread without witnesses, just being passed from mouth to mouth via "I heard a friend who heard it from a friend..." without any actual witnesses.

Q-anon is even worse, because not only is it gossip without any evidence, the person(s) pushing it are DELIBERATELY anonymous, making it impossible to verify where the information is coming from. This is the very opposite of the Biblical standard of evidence.
---StrongAxe on 1/17/21

I love what Ben Sasse said, Conspiracy Theories are going to destroy the Republican Party. All these Conspiracy Theories, election fraud Q, etc etc. And since we live in a country where Cult behavior is on the rise, even having these conspiracies preached from the pulpit, Just as that pastor did who defended Eric Rudolph , and ignorantly encouraged his community to hide and protect him, until Eric tried to kill those who believed in him. We see the same mentality with those protecting Trump, who as we see tried to excite his followers to HANG MIKE PENCE. It's frightening to see those still in a stuper after this.
---kathr4453 on 1/17/21

The only way to have an honest government is to take the money out of politics , and take politics out of government. Why does one have to pay (advertise) to run for public office?
---mike_Olszewski on 1/17/21

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History does repeat itself. Just read about the Wilmington NC 1898 insurrection/ massacure . This is what happened in Washington Jan 6, incited by the same mentality and continued hate speech over the last 4 + years by Trump. Seeing this truth, Senator James Lankford from Oklahoma who was going to contest the election apologized to his Black constituents after being educated this was to disenfranchise the Black vote in these swing states. This garbage has been going on in this country since the beginning. Just look up the history of the RED SHIRTS. Also THUGS like we are seeing today. RED SHIRTS= RED HATS.
---kathr4453 on 1/17/21


Many assume this is true, only because some in government keep saying it but have shown ZERO evidence in two months and 60+ lawsuits. It's just propaganda by a bunch of sore losers. For four years, Republicans have been saying "You lost. Get over it". Now it's time for them to eat their own same crow.

How about a similar question: Was the 2016 election stolen? Since 2016, many government agencies (in a government headed by Trump and Republicans) have said Russian interference happened, including the Republican-run Senate Intel Committee.

If Biden deserves to give Trump four more years because of a stolen election, Trump should immediately hand those to Hillary over HER stolen election.
---StrongAxe on 1/15/21

Why do you ask?
---JS1234 on 1/15/21

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