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Who and what are the Masons? Do they believe in Jesus?

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I never said God cast away His people. I said those who have rejected Jesus Christ who have already died in their sin have no second chances.

Just an example...those who rebelled in the wilderness, those who refused to enter the promise land DIED IN THEIR SIN. HOWEVER "Israel the nation," having been reduced to those 20 and under except for Joshua and Calab did enter the promise land. It will be the same scenario at Jesus 2nd Coming.

Israel refer to the NATION ...a Jew refer to individuals. No scripture says every single Jew will be saved.
ISRAEL IS DIVIDED INTO TRIBES NOT NATIONS. Israel is a NATION...SINGULAR.

Just because you too have chosen to rewrite the Word of God doesn't make it true.
---kathr4453 on 6/22/21


Trav, oh my, are you ok? I see on another thread you did come around and posted Jesus rebuke to Israel...John 8...if you were Abrahams seed you would do the works of Abraham...stating I guess not all Israel is Israel......and NOW you claim BLINDED ISREAL is ..and will one day be saved. My my. I don't think you can keep your story straight Trav. I have to wonder if you have memory issues, or maybe something else is going on with you. I know you can't complete full sentences and throw around verses that don't even apply.

So seeing a diminished capacity here, I'm going to just leave you in your state of confusion.
---kathr4453 on 6/21/21


Trav,
. AFTER the fullness of the Gentiles have come in God will then turn to BLINDED ISRAEL.
You however have taken 11 out of context.
---kathr4453 on 6/15/21

Through your blindness/ confusion others will see.
br>Rom 11:2God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew.
Rom 11:16For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches. Rom 11:25For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, blindness in part is happened to Israel,(Judah) until the fulness of the (ethnos / divorced/ lost Sheep) be come in.
Rom 11:26And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written,.
---Trav on 6/20/21


Trav, Jesus rebuked the unbelieving Jews in John 8, Paul in Romans 10.... Over 70 years after Pentecost. However Paul does go on to say that ONE DAY, AFTER the fullness of the Gentiles have come in God will then turn to BLINDED ISRAEL. That is Romans 11. And I have never omitted Romans 11. You however have taken 11 out of context and YOU have omitted chapter 10.

I believe the whole word of God. You however cherry pick. God has everything in HIS PERFECT TIMING. Don't rush God's timing Trav. TODAY IS THE DAY IF SALVATION. Not tomorrow. Jews today need to believe the Gospel of their salvation IN JESUS CHRIST ALONE. You see, all those prophecies are ABOUT JESUS TOO. There is no salvation apart from Jesus Christ. PERIOD.
---kathr4453 on 6/15/21


Now you stated the majority of Jews don't believe in Jesus. So how do you presume they are saved?
---kathr4453 on 6/14/21

So you believe and tout Paul in one verse but discard Paul on following verse. You believe Christ in one saying but, discard Christ if you dont approve.
No prophet do you recognize utilize, so if you dont believe them how could you possibly believe anything posted. Your blind guide leads you in all doctrine. Ask him.

Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Isa 65:22 They shall not build, and another inhabit, they shall not plant, and another eat: ., and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.
---Trav on 6/15/21




David , like you likes to cherry pick scripture re: John 8:34-35, but failed to read the whole chapter. Especially verse 36....Jesus taking to Jews. Jews who scoffed at Him and crucified Him. The chapter is eye opening for those snared in Cults, as you both are. What you both have in common is your rejection of Jesus Christ, just like those described in John 8. If they truly were Abrahams seed they would have and should have known Jesus WHO ALONE SETS US FREE .....as was promised under the Abrahamic Covenant. The further promise of the Messiah who would come to set us free from sin and death. David doesn't get it, and neither do you. Let the Jews listen to Jesus in John 8 and not you Trav. That STILL APPLIES TODAY.
---kathr4453 on 6/15/21


Trav, SALVATION IS FOUND IN JESUS CHRIST ALONE.

Now you stated the majority of Jews don't believe in Jesus. So how do you presume they are saved? Those up to today who have rejected Jesus Christ and have died have no second chances. It's appointed once to die and then the judgement.

By not telling the truth THE WHOLE TRUTH ! you are misleading Jews to believe they are saved today without having to believe in Jesus. That dictrine is Straight from hell. ONE DAY, AFTER GOD DEALS WITH ISRAELS DISOBEDIENCE Israel will be saved. But until then..,,you are leading multitudes to hell by your doctrine..
---kathr4453 on 6/14/21


Trav:
It's just as much gaslighting to try to sow confusion to cause someone to question their salvation.
---StrongAxe on 6/14/21

If Israels scripture caused your doubting dilemma Im at fault. Right. They killed Christ for same choice in ignorance. Or was it blindness.
Christ posted / searched for Sheep. I do too. Why do you two bother to respond when Sheep are not your thing?
Eze 34:6My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and upon every high hill: yea, my flock was scattered upon all the face of the earth, and none did search or seek

Eze 34:23And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David, he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd.
Eze 34:24And I the
---Trav on 6/14/21


Trav:

It's just as much gaslighting to try to sow confusion to cause someone to question their salvation as to question their sanity, so the term is not inappropriate.

You keep repeating like a broken record the phrase "Israel's scripture". That scripture is not one that the Bible uses anywhere, and I've never heard anyone else ever use it but you. What exactly do you mean by that phrase? Do you mean the old testament, or the new, or both, or something else? Please educate us, and please be specific.
---StrongAxe on 6/14/21


Trav, nothing you post troubles me. Your insulting comments of scripture I post concerning Israel trouble you... I only see you troubled. And you gaslight, FALSELY ACCUSINGLY, making false accusations to have an advantage over another, to slander another for your advantage IS GASLIGHTING. And Trav, those who know and understand the purpose of Gaslighting don't question their sanity. I do question your motives to disgard ALL SCRIPTURE concerning Israel.

You said they don't believe in Jesus, but you fail to acknowledge the consequences for their rejecting Jesus. 1/2 the truth is not the WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. It's how CULTS operate. They throw in a little truth, and then reject the WHOLE TRUTH.
---kathr4453 on 6/14/21




Trav,
Your verses aren't saving them are they?
---kathr4453 on 6/9/21

Wow. You presume to know who GOD has saved in last 2,000 years.
You presume your misunderstanding, misuse and false doctrine are saving people? You save no one, salvation is never found in disobedience or misunderstanding of scripture. Sheep are saved. You have never looked or claim such.

Joh 10:4 when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
Joh 10:5. a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.

Act 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call
---Trav on 6/14/21


Yes, something is DEFINITELY wrong - when people keep spewing random scriptures that aren't on point,.
---StrongAxe on 6/10/21

Every scripture Ive posted of Israel is exactly on point.
Each of their scriptures nullify false doctrine.
Proving by scriptural witnesses.
The fact that Israels specific random scriptures inflame you and eat your logic up is not my fault,
If you cannot understand Israels scriptures.. no one can fix that. Here.
Luk 24:44And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
---Trav on 6/14/21


Someone is Gaslighting here. Actually, all Trav does is gaslight
---kathr4453 on 6/12/21

Gaslighting definition: causing one to doubt their sanity.

The fact seen here is that All Israels scripture, i post troubles you . it should. Means one is on the wrong side of it.
Israels Truth/Gospel is freedom. from gaslighting or the insanity of living your false unsub-doctrines.

Psa 145:18 The LORD is nigh unto all them that call upon him, to all that call upon him in truth.
Mic 7:20Thou wilt perform the truth to Jacob, and the mercy to Abraham, which thou hast sworn unto our fathers from the days of old.

Joh 8:45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
---Trav on 6/13/21


Someone is Gaslighting here. Actually, all Trav does is gaslight, trying to create drama when there is none, making false insulting accusations in hopes to get something going. It's not working.

I post directly out of scripture too concerning Israel ....the very same scriptures Trav posts from. But to say God has only saved Jews throughout the last 2000 years and no Gentiles, or to twist and say they are Jews is rediculous. Multitudes can attest they are not Israel or Jews and ARE SAVED. And for Trav to make some sort of judgement they are either not saved or are Jews is AGAIN REDICULOUS.

The only one who is infuriated here is Trav, because he cannot support his doctrine. Scripture itself does not support it.
---kathr4453 on 6/12/21


Trav:

You wrote: Israels truth cannot abide your lack of truth.

They must because their doctrines fall flat when...

Your sinking defense of the indefensible by witnesses make it clear.... your over the top defense hi lights your passionate offense to specific Sheep scripture.

Why are you SO antagonistic in EVERY SINGLE POST you make?

Something is wrong when scripture makes any self proclaimed gifted teacher preacher infuriated.

Yes, something is DEFINITELY wrong - when people keep spewing random scriptures that aren't on point, while constantly engaging in personal attacks. This is NOT Christ-like behavior. What makes YOU so angry?
---StrongAxe on 6/10/21


Trav, I didn't ask you to deflect and ramble on with your babble. I asked a question. Either answer it honestly or don't post.

You are not Israel/ Jew/ or Nth House. So who asked you, an outsider gentile to proclaimed what you do. Gods prophets are Jews Trav....and your not one of them. You can't gain brownie points with God by posting verses. Anyone can do that and still be as lost as list can be.
---kathr4453 on 6/10/21


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Trav, you said you're not Israel, a Jew or Nth house, so why .....
---kathr4453 on 6/9/21

Israels truth cannot abide your lack of truth. I post Israels scriptures never spoken of in todays Churches. Who In ignorance/ training teach jews / Judah equal all Israel. Like yourself.
They must because their doctrines fall flat when scripture shows the remainder of Israel being acknowledged.... actually the ones being sought.... Matt 10:6, 15:24, Heb 8:8, etc, etc.
Your sinking defense of the indefensible by witnesses make it clear.... your over the top defense hi lights your passionate offense to specific Sheep scripture.
Something is wrong when scripture makes any self proclaimed gifted teacher preacher infuriated.
---Trav on 6/10/21


TODAY those mysteries are now revealed, so you can put away those verses you use to exalt yourself with. YIKES.

The MYSTERY OF CHRIST IN YOU THE HOPE OF GLORY, you have totally shown you do not understand. Christ is not IN THOSE who do not believe in Jesus, and that in itself is no mystery. Christ in you, is different that the promise of the New Covenant of God saying " I will put my spirit in you ". That was no mystery hidden but now revealed.Colossians 1:24-27. The mystery of CHRIST IN YOU, takes you through THE CROSS, THE SUFFERINGS OF CHRIST...never stated in the OT. But is stated now, Roman's 6-8, Galatians 2:20-21. Galatians 6. This group of folks are no longer part of this world.
---kathr4453 on 6/10/21


Trav, you said you're not Israel, a Jew or Nth house, so why all the excitement? You count yourself damned with the rest of the world. And post scripture that is yet future. So what has been going on these last 2000 years? You said yourself the majority of Jews don't believe in Jesus. So tell us, is your Gospel a Jesusless crossless gospel? You think...WALLA no matter what Israel is saved regardless? Do you even believe in the NT? Do you believe and understand Roman's 10 for starters? Those who STUMBLED at Christ Crucified who are dead today are NOT SAVED TRAV. And more are dying TODAY WITHOUT CHRIST. What about them. Your verses aren't saving them are they? Believing God will save Israel ONE DAY is not saving anyone today.
---kathr4453 on 6/9/21


He is not here to help us understand anything. ....sounding a bit mysterious.
---JS1234 on 6/6/21

When Israels scripture is a mystery it should be. It their scripture. Israel wrote it. It is about them, to them and for them.
Mat 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
Mat 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Many.... is not all.
Heb 8:8.......,a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

Happy? I perceive you are a little timid by my confidence. You should be, the prophets and Christ are my foundation.
---Trav on 6/8/21


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... but we should pray that Satan loosen his grip, and that Trav will hear the Gospel of salvation
---kathr4453 on 6/7/21

Praying to Satan? Fits. You pray to your god .....

I will pray to Israels, Happily.

Deu 33:29Happy art thou, O Israel: who is like unto thee, O people saved by the LORD, the shield of thy help, and who is the sword of thy excellency! and thine enemies shall be found liars unto thee, and thou shalt tread upon their high places.

2Sa 7:24For thou hast confirmed to thyself thy people Israel to be a people unto thee for ever: and thou, LORD, art become their God.

Psa 33:12Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD, and the people whom he hath chosen for his own inheritance.
---Trav on 6/8/21


I agree with JS1234. Trav appears to be a very unhappy person, maybe she is locked away in a mental institution, hating God and everyone else and posts her nonsense just to get her angry feelings out. She certainly does have a chip on her shoulder. Trav has changed over the years. Years ago when she did post, it wasn't this nasty or hateful. I actually had a nickname for Trav.....TRAVELOSITY. She thought it was funny.

I'm not sure what has happened to her over these years, but we should pray that Satan loosen his grip, and that Trav will hear the Gospel of salvation ...the one addressed to ALL SINNERS regardless of who they are.
---kathr4453 on 6/7/21


Trav:

What truth?

This blog is about Masons. Yet on 6/5/21, having never said a single thing on this blog before, you jump in, and switch the topic to accusing kathr. You have still not said a single word relating to this topic. I am not "accusing you". I am stating a plainly observable fact, that anyone can verify by just reading the transcript of this blog.

WHY are you attacking kathr here? Wouldn't it be more appropriate to at least direct such comments in the blog where she may have said something you disagree with? This is why this site has multiple blogs, so people can discuss different topics, rather than having turf wars drowning out every other conversation on the site.
---StrongAxe on 6/6/21


I wouldn't worry too much about whatever Trav says. He is not here to help us understand anything. He is only trying to toot his own horn by sounding a bit mysterious. Probably the best thing you could do is just not respond to anything that he posts. If you do that, he will eventually go away. I wish him every blessing. I hope someday he will be a happy person.
---JS1234 on 6/6/21


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Trav:
Will you never stop Accusing? You know who the bible calls The Accuser.
---StrongAxe on 6/5/21

Ah... accuser? Looks like you are accusing me .....of pointing out a truth. Truth / light cannot tolerate untruth / darkness. Light makes you angry so..... obviously you need to get back in the closet.
So lets review, I point out that if a Mason or a TRUE Judahite doesnt honor Christ now but is drawn by GOD tonight or in future...... is between them and GOD.

Joh 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

By the way.... Architect of the Universe is GOD. You are not a Mason, thus no authority on subject.
---Trav on 6/6/21


Strongaxe, Trav is threatened by me. He applies the latest tactics to truth tellers. We are seeing a lot of this today even in politics. It'll get worse, but we know them by their fruit.....their rotten fruit.

Trav can't prove he's not a woman or an ATHIEST here. He can't prove he's not in a mental institution. Trav has proved nothing, except stating correctly here the majority of Jews today do not believe in Jesus.

God will deal with Apostate Israel one day at the Great Tribulation , where His Chosen will be chastened beyond words. 1/3 actually will be saved out of Israel at that time, but 2/3 will die without Christ. But that is still future. TODAY GENTILES are being saved and DO believe in Jesus.
---kathr4453 on 6/6/21


Masons are required to believe in a being called "The Great Architect of the Universe". This may or may not correspond to the God of the Bible, and that may vary from one Mason to another.

Trav:

Yet again, you comment for the first time on a new blog adding zero to the actual subject, but use it as excuse to deflect to personally attack someone else. Will you never stop Accusing? You know who the bible calls The Accuser.
---StrongAxe on 6/5/21


Sadly many look on them as the Bogeyman. They are part of a semi secret organization. President George Washington was one. So were most of our founding Fathers.

Many who say they are Christian are members. Not my job to guess.

A percentage of people use them in Conspiracy theories.

Not my job to judge.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/5/21


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I can't speak for the Masons, but I do know that some believe in Jesus and some don't. Masons are not required to believe in Jesus.
---JS1234 on 6/4/21

Most Jews dont believe in Jesus either.... but, bet your denom calls them the chosen people.
Our resident Jewess here kat who claims to be jewish but, cannot prove it. She appears ashamed to speak of it, unless it might leverage her post position. Calling yourself jew doesnt make it so. She knows little of Israel.... any Jew would know much.
Think true Judahites will ever accept? Maybe a doubting Mason will if called by the father.....
Rom 11:26And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, .........
---Trav on 6/5/21


I can't speak for the Masons, but I do know that some believe in Jesus and some don't. Masons are not required to believe in Jesus.
---JS1234 on 6/4/21


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