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You wrote: These scriptures are on point.
NONE of these are relevant.
Presumably you're calling me a dog.
---StrongAxe on 9/22/21

All Israels scripture is on point, all these are on point. You cannot see the relevance? Then you never will.
Presumably? Do you see yourself in these scriptures? You should. You uphold, promote and defend the demoncrat platforms. Then act like you fight a piece of the same evil. Hypocrite. Fence straddler. The diversions show your heart. Vile? Too nice a word.
Isa 32:6For the vile person will speak villany, and his heart will work iniquity, to practise hypocrisy, and to utter error against the LORD, to make empty the soul of the hungry, and he will cause the
---Trav on 9/23/21


Trav:

You wrote: These scriptures are on point.

How is Psalms 119 relevant to my talking about how to use text fonts?

How is Luke 1 relevant to you not answering my questions?

NONE of these are relevant.

How are your scriptures about "dogs" relevant at all? Presumably you're calling me a dog. You need to say EXACTLY why you feel justified in using such a vile insult. I've asked you this repeatedly, yet you keep refusing to justify it.
---StrongAxe on 9/22/21


Trav:
If a certain subject is being discussed, scriptures that are related to that subject are on point, and appreciated.
---StrongAxe on 9/18/21

Good try. If this was true then you are either too arrogant or ignorant to see yourself in scripture.
These scriptures are on point.
I told you who and why I post scripture. If you see yourself exposed, good. Appreciate them. Maybe you learn that what you promote is who you are
---Trav on 9/21/21


Trav:

If a certain subject is being discussed, scriptures that are related to that subject are on point, and appreciated. However, scriptures that have nothing to do with the subject, but whose sole purpose is to condemn the other person are neither appreciated, nor relevant. Most of the scriptures you post are of the second kind.
---StrongAxe on 9/18/21


Again, you quoted three scriptures
---StrongAxe on 9/14/21

Yeah you prefer no scripture. A waste of time and words for sure in your case.
To take advantage of the space I quote scripture.
You dont get dont let it worry ya, others will get it.
Just scripture on CN. Did I call you dog. You must of recognized something in a verse. Making progress although Ill try not be guilty of giving anything Holy.

Mat 7:6Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
---Trav on 9/17/21




Trav:

I put that in quotes, to demonstrate what yelling was, as opposed to highlight without yelling, but you totally ignored what I said, as you often do.

You literally wasted an entire post to say absolutely nothing useful, but to flame my typography and spelling.

Again, you quoted three scriptures that have absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand. Do they mean you agree with what I write, or God agrees with what I write, or God agrees with what you write, or God agrees with the pslamist? Without context, it's impossible to understand what you intend.

You think anger means someone is out of control. It does not. And once again, you call me a dog. Will your insults never cease?!
---StrongAxe on 9/14/21


"WRITING AN ENTIRE SENTENCE IN ALL CAPS LIKE THIS" is yelling. Hilighting
Please stay in your lane.
---StrongAxe on 9/14/21

Wow now youve done it again yelling in a whole sentence.
And road rage plus blog rage! Get on bike path where your supposed to pedal.
Pedal to china where they will lib love you. Have them show you how to use spell check for big word like HIGHLIGHTING.

Psa 119:128Therefore I esteem all thy precepts concerning all things to be right, and I hate every false way.

Psa 119:129 Thy testimonies are wonderful: therefore doth my soul keep them.
Psa 119:130The entrance of thy words giveth light, it giveth understanding unto the simple.
---Trav on 9/14/21


Was Jesus out of control when he got so angry he flipped tables in the temple?
---StrongAxe on 9/13/21

You are not Jesus. Or any representative form.
Paul warns us against such.

Php 3:2Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.

Mat 7:6Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
---Trav on 9/14/21


Trav:

"WRITING AN ENTIRE SENTENCE IN ALL CAPS LIKE THIS" is yelling. Hilighting a few words LIKE THIS is just showing emphasis, like italics, bold, or underlining. You should learn about writing conventions before mocking them. Also, again, I seriously doubt that you're medically qualified to perform psychological diagnoses over the internet. Please stay in your lane.
---StrongAxe on 9/14/21


Trav:

Was Jesus out of control when he got so angry he flipped tables in the temple?

Instead of addressing your admitted lie, now you're turning that around and making it on me?

I will answer any questions pertaining to scripture or these blogs (because those are relevant to the discussion here). I will not answer any questions about my personal life (because those are NOT relevant to the discussion here, nor are they any of your business).

I answered your question like you answered mine.

That's not what you said. You said you answered my question, period. Which was a lie.

What "evil" do I "promote"? Come out and say it. Otherwise, it's just evil imaginings in your own head.
---StrongAxe on 9/13/21




You wrote: And wont now. Figure it out sas Dusting my feet of ya.

In other words, you OUTRIGHT LIED when you said that you answered all my questions, .
---StrongAxe on 9/11/21

Ha. When you yell in print you are mentally outta control. I answered your question like you answered mine. Your question and accusation is personal. My personal choice is to explain your errors or not. if you dont understand Paul or scripture it is obvious you are not intended to. Pointless with hungry Sheep out there.

You dont feel like answering neither do I. We know you by the evil you promote and align with politically anyway.
You prefer pink Whiffers or Enddust. Sure is dusty at your house.
---Trav on 9/12/21


Trav:

You wrote: Ive answered all your questions.

I wrote: No, you haven't. You accused me of making Paul an outlaw by disobeying. I asked how I disobeyed, but you never replied.

You wrote: And wont now. Figure it out sas Dusting my feet of ya.

In other words, you OUTRIGHT LIED when you said that you answered all my questions, and not only did you lie, you JUST ADMITTED IT. Thanks for playing yourself.

So, tell me, where did you learn lying FROM, and who taught you that it was an acceptable practice?
---StrongAxe on 9/11/21


Ive answered all your questions.
No, you haven't. You accused me of making Paul an outlaw by disobeying.
I asked how I disobeyed, but you never replied.
---StrongAxe on 9/9/21

And wont now. Figure it out sas Dusting my feet of ya.
Israels answers surround you but, you do not see them. It is not my place to un-blind you or pull your wolf teeth.
Israel is instructed and ask their GOD. Anyone can ask. But you ask yourself, or your denom masters.

Luk 1:68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel, for he hath visited and redeemed his people,
Luk 1:72 To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant,
---Trav on 9/11/21


The leaven of the Pharisees. It's not a verse to attach to anything you want.

Paul states a little leaven ruins the whole lump. Paul who was at one time proud to be a Pharisee shows what it is and isn't...read Philippians 3 for clarification.

Mixing Law with Grace is leaven...it ruins the whole of GRACE. Galatians 2:20-21. David teaches a perfect example of this leaven, because he can't grasp GRACE and must mix in the LAW to satisfy his self-righteousness. So we see the Pharisees were self righteous because they claimed they kept the law perfectly and condemned those who did not...( which no one can). The Law was added so sin would abound not the opposite.
---kathr4453 on 9/10/21


Trav:

You quote Matthew 22, yet you forget Matthew 21:23-27 (similarly Mark 11:28-33):
23: Priests asked Jesus by what authority he taught
24-25: He asked them where John's authority came from
26: They knew any answer would condemn them

27: And they answered Jesus, and said, We cannot tell. And he said unto them, Neither tell I you by what authority I do these things.

Ive answered all your questions.

No, you haven't. You accused me of making Paul an outlaw by disobeying. I asked how I disobeyed, but you never replied. Many accusations with no specifics.

Which questions of yours do I refuse to answer? Personal ones that are irrelevant to this discussion, and none of your business.
---StrongAxe on 9/9/21


Trav:
Pharisees created contorted hypothetical situations that had no good answers.
---StrongAxe on 9/9/21

No that is not correct. Christ answered every one perfectly reflecting scripture. And creating scripture. It is how you are visible.
Ive answered all your questions. But, Pharisee that you are avoid answering mine.
I did not call you a Pharisee several post ago without cause. You exhibit their mindset them thinking themselves wise. are found foolish.

Mat 22:15Then went the Pharisees, and took counsel how they might entangle him in his talk.
Luk 12:1/ Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.
---Trav on 9/9/21


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Trav:

Pharisees created contorted hypothetical situations that had no good answers. These were not about anything discussed before, but designed solely to be argumentative.

My questions are SPECIFICALLY about what you ALREADY discussed. YOU make vague insinuations, and I ask you to clarify them. YOU create the situation by making insinuations. If you have accusations to make, make them, instead of beating around the bush. Are you afraid or ashamed to speak plainly?

I speak for no denomination, so what groups I may belong to are not relevant here. Whether I am married is also a personal question that also has no relevance here, and is none of your business. Unless you have a reason to ask it? Do you? If so, then say why.
---StrongAxe on 9/9/21


Just posting scripture about Israel any wing nut and or criminal can do. No ones salvation is hinged on posting OT prophecy about Israel. We are saved because we believe OT Prophecy about the Messiah. Posting only about Israel doesn't show a person's character . It proves nothing and is totally void of the Gospel or ones growth and sanctification. Even a murderer in prison can get on the Internet and post ISRAEL THIS AND ISRAEL THAT, but it says nothing about the person posting. It's easy for any abuser to find a subject to hide behind. He's still an abuser. He still may be a drunk or drug addict. And using scripture inappropriately is just another sign one really doesn't understand the first thing about God, much less Israel.
---kathr4453 on 9/9/21


Trav:
When Pharisees asked Jesus trick questions, he made them answer one first.
When they refused, he wouldn't answer their questions either.
---StrongAxe on 9/8/21

Well you are not Jesus. Your trick is obvious, asking all to be specific. But you fail in being specific. Applies only for you to judge by your supreme opinion.
You questions are to deflect any attention off you.
Youve deflected again. Squirming away in embarrassment and shame.
For no reason. I dont care. It will just confirm or erase what you bring to mind with you being fearfully evasive.

I post Scripture that brought you to this point.

What is your denom?
Are you married?
---Trav on 9/9/21


I remember another news story of a man who like you was a one man church denomination who oppressed his wife and children, and had them believing and acting on his say so that Adam also slept with his daughters to multiply the earth. And that they were to also practice this. So his wife went along with it, probably being browbeat into being told she had no voice.

Yep he is in prison too.

So we just don't know anything about you Trav.

Usually insecure men are the ones who can't handle women having a voice.

But here... Did you know it was Sarah who told Abraham to throw out Hagar... And Abraham did what Sarah asked ..God told Abraham TO LISTEN TO SARAH.....
GENESIS 21:12. Have a nice day Trav.
---kathr4453 on 9/8/21


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Trav:

YOU first brought up denominations, not I. YOU judge ME on what denomination you assume in your mind I belong to. I don't judge YOU based on what denomination I think you are in.

Since you claim to follow scripture, you must know "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you". If YOU ask someone what denomination they are in, YOU must thus welcome such questions (whether or not others welcome them). Either that, or you're a hypocrite. You choose.

So it's on YOU to FIRST answer any question you demand answers from others. Yet again, either put up, or shut up. When Pharisees asked Jesus trick questions, he made them answer one first. When they refused, he wouldn't answer their questions either.
---StrongAxe on 9/8/21


We don't know that Trav. Just you saying so doesn't make it so.

And comparing her to others proves nothing either. I can compare you to many but that would prove nothing. Only God can make such judgements

Now if your wife has no voice and you keep her home barefoot and serving you night and day doesn't make her a saint. It makes you oppressive .

And maybe she's been oppressed for so long she has no other choices. See no one but God REALLY KNOWS what goes on behind your closed doors. Even religious fanatics can be abusers and drunks and have many mental issues. Most have abused family. What makes you any different? They make the headlines daily.
---kathr4453 on 9/8/21


Oh yes, Warren Jeff's... here's another religious fanatics now in prison. I bet all his wives thought he was the cats meow. I bet even Warren himself thinks he's the cats meow. But I'll bet you that any man who abuses women online abuse them off line.

Actions speak louder than words. We see Trav actions here clearly has no respect for anyone unless they bow to him. He hides behind verses thinking that gives him the right.

I'll bet Trav bullies and abuses his own family. They just don't SAY ANYTHING for fear he might use scripture to beat them.

Got your number Trav. You only abuse those you can't control. And boy do you hate not being in control. Like another here.
---kathr4454 on 9/8/21


Trav,
1. You say only the two houses only have the law written in their heart.
2.how could you possibly know if it's in your wife
3. You break the 9th commandment continually.
---kathr4453 on 9/8/21

3. My witness is based based on your posted witness, proving true.

2. My wife is opposite of you. Fearful of GOD and obedient to him. Pro 31:10-31:25Strength and honour are her clothing, .
Pro 31:26She openeth her mouth with wisdom, and in her tongue is the law of kindness.
Pro 31:27She looketh well to the ways of her household,
Pro 31:28Her children call her blessed, her husband also,.

1. I said nothing. I posted scripture Jer 31:33/ Heb 8:10 / 10:16.
It says House of Israel not both houses.
---Trav on 9/8/21


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Trav, taking your word for anything is not proof. You say only the two houses only have the law written in their heart. I don't see it in yours, how could you possibly know if it's in your wife or anyone else's .


You break the 9th commandment continually. Therefore not only is this not written in your heart...NONE ARE. And if you've broken one you have broken all. Well so much for David thinking you are sinless.
Too funny.
---kathr4453 on 9/8/21


the woman you married a Jew Israelite or Nth House....and which one ? Please prove it.
---kathr4453 on 9/7/21

Thats easy.
She shews what you do not.

Rom 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, -
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them,
---Trav on 9/8/21


Note how Jesus treated Israel - since they rejected Him,
---StrongAxe on 9/7/21"

His own. was Judah. Judah never equals all Israel.
Judah equals Judah. Jews to you.
Now its been pointed out often leaving you no excuses to promote a falsehood. On you. Not me.
This why the New Testament Covenant states two houses but, same family.
Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

Eze 37:28 And the gentiles shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.
---Trav on 9/7/21


Married to a woman over 40 years. Two kids. Grandkids.
---Trav on 9/7/21

Is this woman you married part of Adam and Eve or those other folks you say God created? How do you know? Is the woman you married a Jew Israelite or Nth House....and which one ? Please prove it.

So I see this is what you and another here have in common....you both started your own denomination. And to defend your denomination you attack all others too.

So are you two here to attack Christianity? Are you one in the same, just playing mind games with people?

I don't think Jews who don't believe in Jesus are actually on this site Trav. And those Jews here who do believe...YOU ATTACK AND ASSAULT. So exactly what is your motive here?
---kathr4453 on 9/7/21


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Trav:
I have never shown any fear in this area.
Because YOU have never mentioned what church or denomination YOU belong to either.
---StrongAxe on 9/7/21

Ok fearless one. What denom are you?
Preacher, teacher?
Married? To a female?
Kids?

Ive stated previously I am a member of no denom. I am undenom. Christian.
Married to a woman over 40 years. Two kids. Grandkids.
---Trav on 9/7/21


Trav:

You wrote: First of all you couldn't, wouldn't address one question of my previous post. You cannot and we both know it.

So what, exactly, IS one question I couldn't and wouldn't address? Be specific.

Yes, I have repeatedly acknowledged that Jesus was sent to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel. But YOU seem to refuse to acknowledge that after Jesus' death and resurrection, the gospel was open to all the nations of the world.

So you make Paul an outlaw again disobeying.

What am I "disobeying"? Again, be specific.
---StrongAxe on 9/7/21


Gal 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
Gal 4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, -.
---Trav on 9/6/21

Yes no one is arguing against this fact. But HE CAME UNTO HIS OWN AND HIS OWN RECEIVED HIM NOT...

Notice Paul says THEM...explaining to GENTILES that even Jews needed to be saved, just like Gentiles. Paul is not telling Gentiles here in Galatia that salvation is only TO THEM, MEANING Jews. He's saying even THEM who were under the law need to BELIEVE.

If you are going to teach truth Trav, you need to understand the foundation of things first. Paul is saying EVEN THEM whom Christ came through are sinners needing salvation.
---kathr4453 on 9/7/21


Matthew 24:14 (also Mark 13:10)
And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached -.
---StrongAxe on 9/6/21

First of all you couldn't, wouldn't address one question of my previous post. You cannot and we both know it.
Perhaps because your fears or hopefully ignorance prevent it, you cannot abide the gospel / good news was sent to the Lost Sheep of the house of Israel.
Prophesied and stated plainly by prophets, Christ Matt 10:6 and Matt 15:24.
So you make Paul an outlaw again disobeying.
Gal 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
Gal 4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, -.
---Trav on 9/6/21


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Trav:

I have never shown any fear in this area. Are you projecting? Because YOU have never mentioned what church or denomination YOU belong to either. Accusing someone of doing the same thing you do is the very definition of hypocrisy.

A servant is LOWER in status. *IF* God appoints a servant, of course one should help the servant, but how can we know God appointed them? On their own say so? There are thousands of cults in the world that claim to speak for God, and since they contradict each other most MUST be false, as God is not the author of confusion.

Note how Jesus treated Israel - since they rejected Him, he gave his blessing to others (see the Parable of the Wedding feast).
---StrongAxe on 9/7/21


Israel being 'Gods servant' didn't guarantee salvation. When The Messiah finally came ( through Gods servant Israel ) many Jews/ those of all tribes rejected Him. So we see Jesus talking to these SERVANTS trying to explain a SERVANT DOES NOT ABIDE IN THE HOUSE FOREVER. ONLY A SON DOES.John 8:35-37. So Jesus is explaining to His SERVANTS ISRAEL, that in spite of them being SERVANTS that didn't also mean they were SONS. So the object was to BECOME SONS and no longer servants. And we see John 1:1-14 clearly show HOW THEY WERE TO BECOME A SON and no longer a servant.....THEY WERE TO RECEIVE HIM, and by receiving Him as THE SON OF GOD THE MESSIAH, they would be set free from sin.

Some did and many to this day have not received Him.
---kathr4453 on 9/7/21


Trav:

Matthew 24:14 (also Mark 13:10)
And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

My last message literally referred to that. I assumed YOU, a self-proclaimed Biblical scholar, would immediately recognize it. I assumed wrong.

Galatians 3:8
Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: "All nations will be blessed through you."

Revelation 14:6 (quoting Genesis 26:4)
Then I saw another angel flying in midair, and he had the eternal gospel to proclaim to those who live on the earth - to every nation, tribe, language and people.
---StrongAxe on 9/6/21


Trav:
So WHY are you so obsessed with posting scriptures about the convenant with Israel, since they don't include anybody else?
---StrongAxe on 9/5/21

Lets re-view your logic in front of your church denom that you afraid to name or post about.
Is a servant higher or lower in status?
If GOD appoints a servant should you help this servant? Or stand in the way?
If this same servant blesses you by servitude would you honor this free service? How?
Would you look for this servant if they were missing? Or his offspring? Forever or just a minute?

Does GOD know who makes the best servants? Do you agree with GOD?

Isa 49:3 And said unto me, Thou art my servant, O Israel, in whom I will be glorified.
---Trav on 9/6/21


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So WHY are you so obsessed with posting scriptures about the convenant with Israel, since they don't include anybody else?

Why would anybody else need to know about them, since they're excluded anyway?

. The gospel and the new covenant are for EVERYONE, not just Israel.
---StrongAxe on 9/5/21

Seem u are your own contradiction. As per your statements above. And typical no scripture.
Evidently expecting your own circular opinion to carry its weight against scripture.
You want proof but cannot accept it even while admitting it!!

Mat 10:23But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.
---Trav on 9/5/21


Trav:

I NEVER said I disagreed with those scriptures. I NEVER said it was not OK to post them. Why do you keep making stuff up?

You said you didn't know if you were from Israel or not. So WHY are you so obsessed with posting scriptures about the convenant with Israel, since they don't include anybody else? Why would anybody else need to know about them, since they're excluded anyway?

You seem to believe that the new covenant applies to Israel only, which is NOT TRUE. Jesus command his disciples to "preach the Gospel *TO* all nations", not "to those scattered sheep of Israel who happen to be scattered among all nations". The gospel and the new covenant are for EVERYONE, not just Israel.
---StrongAxe on 9/5/21


You, who are not from Israel, are explaining Israel to people who ARE of Israel, and you think this is OK.
---StrongAxe on 9/3/21

Sigh. Never said I was from Israel or was not. Country or people. I post Scripture about Israel that you or few do. Yout dont I do look for who Christ and Apostles looked for.
What is interesting to me is they are who the Prophets are from the Messiah, and Apostles. The term My People is stated 777 times. Israel 2576 times. Who the promises, covenants were too.

Explain to everyone why it is not OK to post Israels scripture.
You cant be specific but, in your typical SA way.
Joh 1:31And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel,
---Trav on 9/5/21


Trav:
You wrote: If it was written to everyone you would understand it. You might even be able to discuss it.

Your statement makes no sense. It's self-contradictory.
---StrongAxe on 9/3/21

You need a refresher course in logic. Anyone could and can post scripture about Israels Sheep who Christ stated he was seeking.
I do you dont.
Easy with a GOD who authorized all prophets Of Israel who prophesied to the same.
Even if my understanding was limited to that, these scriptures that inflame you are not contradictory to truth. They are truth. Seems you are the contradiction.
Your opinions are a poor offense against GOD and Israels prophets and Messiah. You would use scripture if you had any.
---Trav on 9/5/21


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British Israelism is and will always be a CULT, who's very foundation is based on LIES.

Just that basic lie that they thought King James V1 was King of Israel is so glaringly anti_semitic and even Anti Christ. For one, JESUS IS THE LAST AND ONLY KING OF ISRAEL. And any student of any Jewish scriptures would know that. King Herod KNEW THAT TOO and knew he was not a rightful King of Israel. That's WHY he tried to have Jesus Killed.

Don't let Trav fiction bother you. It's all fiction.

Oh what a mess. It proves Trav is still a seeker who himself still hasn't found the TRUTH.
---kathr4453 on 9/4/21


There are no Jewish Rabbis or even Messianic Congregations in agreement with Trav doctrine.

Herbert Armstrong was not Jewish. He was born into a QUAKER family. He married and his wife started having visions. When in Oregon she hooked up with COG SDA'S who rejected Ellen White. Then he hooked up with the British Israelism group , a very small cult that began out of a French Hugemot pamphlet on the Lost tribes. They believed the British anglo Saxon were Israelites and believed King James V1 and 1 was the king of Israel.

Seeing only those out of JUDAH were kings, according to scripture, no one from any of the supposed lost tribes could ever be KING of Israel. That was Herod's big mistake. He wasn't of the tribe of Judah.
---kathr4453 on 9/4/21


Strongaxe, I have made that same statement to Trav. So rather than respect that I am a Jew and or Israelite and I do know my OT and new, Trav has decided 1) I can't speak truth because I'm a woman. 2) I'm lying because I don't know what tribe I came from) 3) because I show scripture ALSO ADDRESSING ISRAEL he says is a lie, because it isn't his exact understanding. He's not provoking me...as he thinks. He's frustrated and his only form of defense is to insult . He can't stand up to your questions, so he attacks your being from Canada, or what state you live in, or maybe what grocery store you use.

I think others see through Trav. He thinks he provokes...but it's his childish behavior alone that's provoking.
---kathr4453 on 9/3/21


Trav:

You wrote: If it was written to everyone you would understand it. You might even be able to discuss it.

Your statement makes no sense. It's self-contradictory. If I can't understand it because I am not from Israel, then you can't understand it either because you are not from Israel either.

Ill post for Sheep of Israel.

You, who are not from Israel, are explaining Israel to people who ARE of Israel, and you think this is OK. At the same time, you take great objection to me, who am not from the U.S., explaining the U.S. to people who ARE from the U.S. If you're going to take a position, at least be consistent about it.
---StrongAxe on 9/3/21


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Trav: The OT was written to Israel. The NT was written to everyone.
---StrongAxe on 8/12/21

If it was written to everyone you would understand it. You might even be able to discuss it. Your spirit of contention about Israel in scripture would be a spirit inline with Christ fulfilling the prophets.
You desire to be seen intelligent straining at amoebas but, just cant pull it off. You go look and cover for your political gods.

Ill post for Sheep of Israel.

Heb 9:15And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
---Trav on 9/3/21


Trav:

Your question is hardly "innocent". You ask about "my special interest" without ever specifying what interest you are talking about. When I ask you to speak plainly, you refuse, resorting again and again to veiled innuendo.

My annoyance is not "guilt". It is losing patience with your constant refusal to abide by the most simple customs of human discourse. If you have an accusation to make, make it, and speak plainly - something you appear unable and/or unwilling to do.

If there is some "doctrine" of mine you disagree with, then pick one. If there is so much of it, it should be easy to point out one single point for discussion. Otherwise, again, it's accusations with no specifics.
---StrongAxe on 9/3/21


Trav:
YOU accuse ME of pushing "a special interest group",

I only disagree with some of your interpretations.
---StrongAxe on 9/2/21

Yelling in print only makes you look out of control, mad if you will.
It is a tell when you call an innocent question about your special interest an accusation. You must feel guilty and want to hide it? Not PC?

I disagree not with some of your doctrine but, all of it. If it is false it is not true. You have plenty of wordy opinion but, no prophets behind you.

I stand with them. Never with you and your popular crowd. You trust the crowd.
Not very logical but, hey its a wide way, I get it.
---Trav on 9/3/21


Trav:

YOU accuse ME of pushing "a special interest group", without saying which one. It's impossible to answer an accusation unless one knows what it IS. Why do you CONSTANTLY make vague innuendos? Again, put up, or shut up.

If we were in court, and you told the judge, "I don't have to tell you what the accused did. He knows what I'm talking about", you'd be laughed out of court.

I AM NOT IGNORING SCRIPTURES ABOUT ISRAEL. I AM NOT ASHAMED OF SCRIPTURES ABOUT ISRAEL. I AM NOT TURNING BLIND EYE TO SCRIPTURE. I only disagree with some of your interpretations. You still didn't answer why you care so much about Israel, when you're not part of it, and don't believe Biblical promises apply to you.
---StrongAxe on 9/2/21


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I spent about 25 years as a conservative evangelical, until I again realized that there were a lot of things I was pretty much required to deliberately turn a blind eye to..
---StrongAxe on 8/29/21

Now that you are free of denoms, why do you deliberately turn both both blind eyes to specific scripture?
As a math major an logic debater you remind me of educated Paul, who ignored scripture until he was made aware.
Fear is your personal enemy. Not fear of GOD. Fear of truth.
Logic this. Truth is freedom. Freedom from all mans denoms. All doctrines of men. Ask for Truth. Seek it.

Pro 3:3Let not mercy and truth forsake thee: bind them about thy neck, write them upon the table of thine heart:
---Trav on 9/2/21


Trav:
No, that's NOT how accusations work.
I have no animosity towards SCRIPTURE, just YOUR INTERPRETATION of it.
---StrongAxe on 8/31/21

Ha. It is now. I asked a question, what Special Interest group. You wont answer. Yea or nay. Which gives the answer that it is one you are ashamed of.

Likewise i post scripture about Israel annulling your false doctrines.
Why defend and post for Israel? Ill stand with GOD and his people rather than against them, which is foolish. Not logical.

Jer 33:24Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying, The two families which the LORD hath chosen, he hath even cast them off? thus they have despised my people, that they should be no more a nation before them.
---Trav on 9/1/21


Trav:

No, that's NOT how accusations work. If you want to make an accusation, it is up to YOU to state charges plainly. This isn't Kafka's "The Trial" where a person is accused, tried, condemned, and executed without ever being informed of the charges against him. As the saying goes, "Put up, or shut up."

For the umpteenth time, I have no animosity towards SCRIPTURE, just YOUR INTERPRETATION of it. And again, I am not a Communist. STOP WITH THE LIES.

Ive never claimed to be Judah or Israel.

Yet you keep claiming that God's promises only apply to Israel. Why are you so invested in this issue when you have no personal involvement in it, and no part of the promise?
---StrongAxe on 8/31/21


What "special interest group supporter activist" am I.
---StrongAxe on 8/30/21

Ha. Be specific? You be specific. That ashamed of it huh.
Lets see, you want us to guess your special interest group based on your animosity to anything scriptural about Israel, or conservative American. Hmmmm. Probably gonna be something like ECCPLAR. Expat Canadian Communist Pharisees against Republics.

May Israels GOD reward your special interests appropriately.

Psa 105:24 And he increased his people greatly, and made them stronger than their enemies.
Psa 105:25 He turned their heart //

Ive never claimed to be Judah or Israel. Dont know. Although Israel was a surname in my mothers family.
---Trav on 8/31/21


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Trav:

You wrote: Ill answer yours when you answer mine.

Ok. Then ask your question, instead of beating around the bush.

What "special interest group supporter activist" am I, and why do you think I am? Be specific.
---StrongAxe on 8/30/21


Just answer the question Trav. Your squirming out of answering is obvious to all.
---kathr4453 on 8/30/21


Trav:
So tell me. Are YOU part of Israel, yourself?
---StrongAxe on 8/28/21

Ill answer yours when you answer mine.
Its more than obvious you are a special interest group supporter activist. Which one, two or more.
---Trav on 8/30/21


Trav:

Yet again, jumping to incorrect conclusions.

1) I was raised Catholic as a child, but stopped believing at age 10, because there were questions the priest could not or would not answer

2) At age 20, I had a JW friend, and hung out with them for about a year, but I NEVER joined them, and I realized after that time that they were guilty of exactly the same kind of theological manipulation and dishonesty they accused others of.

3) After that, I spent about 25 years as a conservative evangelical, until I again realized that there were a lot of things I was pretty much required to deliberately turn a blind eye to.

You still didn't answer whether you consider yourself part of Israel or not.
---StrongAxe on 8/29/21


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Trav:
I said many times I agree with prophets,
---StrongAxe on 8/26/21

Your lips do not seem to match or support your past post agreements.
So you left Jehovahs Witnesses now you are RC it appears? Your political special interest group you labor for is?
We can practice anew on agreeing.
Luk 1:54He hath holpen his servant Israel, in remembrance of his mercy,
Luk 1:68Blessed be the Lord God of Israel, for he hath visited and redeemed his people,
Luk 1:72To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant,
Luk 1:77To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins,
---Trav on 8/27/21


Trav:

So tell me. Are YOU part of Israel, yourself? Yes, or no? Can you trace your lineage back to one of the twelve tribes? Yes or no?
---StrongAxe on 8/28/21


lolololololololol

Yes, there is ongoing arguing and complaining and accusing.

But . . . we do share God's word here. And there are things which can help us.
---Bill on 8/28/21


Trav:
Again, your post provides ZERO actual useful information,
---StrongAxe on 8/26/21

True. For you.
Noticed immediately many years ago that scripture about Israel did register with you. Not supposed too.
You are not tuned into Sheep at all. So go your way leave them to theirs. You do not replace them as shown in scripture repeatedly, no matter how illogical your ZERO math and logic is.
Deu 10:15Only the LORD had a delight in thy fathers to love them, and he chose their seed after them, even you above all people, as it is this day.
Deu 14:2For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth.
---trav on 8/27/21


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Trav:

Trump BOASTED of making unwanted advances on married women, of being in lust with his own daughter, and defrauding contractors is good business practice. The bible SPECIFICALLY talks about boasting of doing evil.

I'm not using "Editorial law of MSN and CNN", just what the Bible says is and is not acceptable behavior.

What has Trump accomplished? He left the economy in the worst condition since the Great Depression. Biden recently restored GDP back to pre-COVID numbers.

Draining the swamp? Trump put alligators in charge! His cabinet positions were not based on competence in their fields, but on donations and personal loyalty to him. E.g. DeJoy trashing the post office, DeVos destroying education, etc.
---StrongAxe on 8/27/21


Trav:
You allegiance is seen by your propaganda. It seems tilted to whatever special interest you labor for.
---StrongAxe on 8/26/21

You pass judgement on a president by the editorial Law, of MSN, CNN. And invoke the 10 commandments no less. Evidently you took his confession to be privy to so much personal unproven info.
Again. Trump accomplished several things but, you hate him so much you cant honor the good things. Are
you are still scared of him? Draining swamp affect you?

Psa 55:9Swallow, O Lord, and divide their tongues: for I have seen violence and strife in the city.

May it be so.
---Trav on 8/27/21


Trav:

Again, your post provides ZERO actual useful information, except to demean and accuse. Remember the Golden Rule "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"? This means one of two things:

1) You actually WANT others to constantly demean and accuse you, or
2) This is yet another scripture you choose to ignore, because it is inconvenient.

So which is it?

As for constant accusation, one individual in scripture is called "the accuser", who appears to be your inspiration, since you constantly follow his lead. Guess who that is?

You allegiance is seen by your propaganda. It seems tilted to whatever special interest you labor for.

And yours isn't? Pot, kettle, black.
---StrongAxe on 8/26/21


Here, Trav tells you that women should be silent, and me that I am not allowed an opinion because I'm not a citizen.
---StrongAxe on 8/23/21

Ha. Trav tells?
I point and post scripture. Scripture tells. Your opinion not allowed? Your opinion is a great revealer. Keep it coming. It doesnt count with me. Its worthless in its biases. You allegiance is seen by your propaganda. It seems tilted to whatever special interest you labor for.
Joh 10:13The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.
---Trav on 8/26/21


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Strongaxe, gatekeepers close their eyes and ears to anything others have to say OUT OF THE SAME BIBLE ..THE VERY SAME SCRIPTURES. That's a red flag there are other motives than discussing. When anyone else post other scriptures on the same subject, and they act like it came out of nowhere, totally ignoring over and over, or make rude comments, it's not a healthy discussion, but a takeover.
---kathr4453 on 8/24/21


kathr4454:

There is a kind of toxic behavior that is fairly common in real life, but even more so in online communities - called gatekeeping. This is where somebody sets themselves up as some kind of self-appointed gatekeeper who has the power, authority, and duty to keep others out.

In the Bible, Pharisees told others they weren't worthy for the Kingdom.

Recently, Justin Bieber's bodyguards told customers in a Nike store they needed to leave so he could shop in peace. Store employees didn't agree.

Here, Trav tells you that women should be silent, and me that I am not allowed an opinion because I'm not a citizen.
---StrongAxe on 8/23/21


I know many like Trav have run off so many women because they think this is CHURCH and say woman have no right to say anything or blog here. Trav has tried to run me off many times with this mentality. I'm sure he's run off other woman here with this same mantality.

I don't see it as anyone's CHURCH, so I haven't let Trav run me off. He wishes he could though. Insulting others citizenship is Trav trying to run others off by personal attacks.

The art of projection. It is easily seen through. Then calling others psychos....now that is really a strong word to clobber others with. But Trav using that word still can't run everyone off.
---kathr4454 on 8/23/21


I don't think anyone comes here to seek Trav claiming to be a prophet or Jesus. So possibly many have left here because of this kind of mentality.

There's those who can discuss, and those who bully. Using verses to curse or bully others have been a problem here with those who do think they are little gods. Then these same ones make personal insults of where one is from etc, having nothing to do with discussing doctrine. They have run many off , and then project to others.

You just have to work around them or just ignore them....if you can.
---kathr4453 on 8/22/21


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I guess nothing really worth while is accomplished here. I'm going to take a breather and be away for a while. I wish you all peace and every blessing.
---JS1234 on 8/20/21

I personally wish you the same.
If you have nothing to contribute, discuss or share or accomplish perhaps it is best.

Jer 29:13And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.

Mat 10:41He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward, and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward.

Mat 10:34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
---Trav on 8/20/21


I guess nothing really worth while is accomplished here. I'm going to take a breather and be away for a while. I wish you all peace and every blessing.
---JS1234 on 8/20/21


My question is
What is the main purpose of the conversations here?
---JS1234 on 8/19/21

What are you expecting to get or give when you come here.
---Trav on 8/20/21


JS1234:

Because there aren't a lot of other regulars here, and those who are still here comment very rarely. Without the current group of "usual suspects", the blogs here would be mostly dead. One occasionally sees newcomers commenting on blogs that have been idle for 10+ years, and then never come back to see if anyone replied to them.
---StrongAxe on 8/19/21


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My question is

What is the main purpose of the conversations here? I don't understand why this same small group of people keep arguing about the same things year after year.
---JS1234 on 8/19/21


The RCC or Peter is not the rock or the Church Jesus was talking about. SCRIPTURE SAYS The CHURCH OF THE FIRST BORN is right now IN HEAVEN. Hebrews 12:23. Beginning in the OT "THE ROCK"is Jesus Christ. Jesus is , was and will always be THE ROCK. To build your house upon a rock is not building upon a man... Good heavens.

Seeing we are seated with Christ IN HEAVENLY PLACES WITH CHRIST right now as we speak, seeing Colossians 1:24-27 also define THE CHURCH, as HIS BODY, showing only those baptized into HIS DEATH through a spiritual baptism, not a water baptism, and seeing at Pentecost 3000 plus were added to THE CHURCH ( were not in Rome but Jerusalem) as there were no physical buildings of Churches only Jewish Temples...
---kathr4453 on 8/18/21


The reason they argue is because neither have authority on scripture!

These small groups all believe that the Bible is the final authority, scripture alone.

All have one way or another said that the Holy Spirit guides them in scripture or that Jesus open their eyes.

If they really believe that all they need is scripture, then they should had look at scriptures like these:

Matt 18: 17-18 " If he refuses to listen to them, tell the CHURCH."

Matt 16: 18 " Upon this rock I will build my CHURCH."

1 Tim 3:15 " The CHURCH is the pillar and foundation of TRUTH."

Now they need to find that CHURCH, scripture is talking about:)
---Ruben on 8/17/21


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