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In 67 years, there is not one moment in my life where I felt completely relaxed and carefree that scripture made perfect sense and was impeccably/utterly rational. Then I began to notice that this 'lack of rationality' perception is not unusual (because of the teachers).
..... AM I THE ONLY ONE?

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Correction, Romans 15:18.

The TRUTH IS IN JESUS. Those IN CHRIST who are members of HIS BODY, know Jesus is the head where ALL TRUTH FLOWS DOWN to the body. As we grow and mature IN CHRIST, we develope the mind of Christ, and He makes known to us THE HEIGHT, DEPTH, LENGTH, AND WIDTH and so much more. EPHESIAN's 3:14-21 is where I stand and what I testify to AS TRUTH, as this too has been wrought in me.

I have the peace of God and am at peace with God. I am AT REST IN HIM. I learned truth through lies of teachers. The Holy Spirit used lies to teach me truth. ..He worked all things together FOR GOOD. And whenever I need an answer, I ask IN FAITH...JAMES 1, and the Lord answers me. I am completely relaxed. Praise God.
---kathr4453 on 12/23/21


Is this more philosophy? Who was discussing Armageddon?

I am relaxed in my faith. And as I said, TRUTH comes through the fellowship of His sufferings. That's where TRUTH is wrought in us. You may want to look up the definition of "wrought in" .

Paul said he would never teach anything unless it had been WROUGHT IN him first. Romans 5:18. I too will make this my priority. Therefore I cannot support your teachings More-excellent-way. THE CROSS is what the Lord has WROUGHT in me and this ONLY will I testify to. I'm sorry I can't be if help to you.
---kathr4453 on 12/23/21


Jesus fulfilled ALL (ALL) righteousness...(DOES THAT HELP YOU with what you don't understand KATHRYN?). The only people who will be able to understand the Lord's truth are those who will take the time to figure out what they don't understand.

YOUR Armageddon is within your mind/conscience.
Armageddon was an actual military battle.
The name IN HEBREW Is ARMAGEDDON.
IN 2000 YEARS, NONE OF THE FAITHFUL TEACHERS, SCHOLARS or CLERGY cared to look it up, but they did manage to convince us all to ignore the usefulness of knowing its name in ENGLISH.

Many people seek to argue and discredit everything I write so they can imagine themselves as "BETTER", but will do nothing to free the brethren from mistruth and lies.
---more_excellent_way on 12/20/21


There is right living, and then there is the righteousness of Christ. The righteousness of Christ only comes from Jesus Christ. We see in Romans 10, the Jews had a zeal for righteousness, but not after the righteousness of Christ. Paul again reiterates this in Philippians 3.

I'm not sure what Acts 7:16 has to do with this conversation.

So with that more_excellent_way, yours is not a more excellent way.

Must disagree with you here. As we can all see Ravi Zacharias was a great philosopher too but as we can see his philosophy paved a horrible road ahead for him. He simply did not exhibit THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF CHRIST.
---kathr4453 on 12/16/21


EXactly kathryn. GENUINE, absolute truth is inherent in a spiritual person. Our blood and bones are comfortable when presented with logic and truth (like Socrates). of course, Socrates was not a "Christian".

....(Socrates got arrested and put to death for teaching the youth of Athens about good and proper living (righteousness). Centuries later, Paul made a speech to the ATHENIAN people and saw no reason to mention Jesus to such RIGHTEOUS people.

TODAY THERE IS A COMMEMORATIVE PLAQUE on the Areopagus tourist attraction that contains ONLY Pauls' speech.

Read Pauls' speech in English in Acts 7:16.

Truth lives in spiritual people.

...and the TAOIST loves THE WAY (the English translation is THE WAY).
---more_excellent_way on 12/16/21




My experience is that the truth is WROUGHT IN US. And I believe Paul testifies to this as well.

When it comes to false teachers Jesus addressed this. He said MY SHEEP HEAR MY VOICE AND A STRANGERS VOICE THEY WILL NOT FOLLOW.

I have found this to be true. God is a jealous God, and Psalms 23 show God protects HIS SHEEP. He does.
---kathr4453 on 12/16/21


In 67 years, there is not one moment in my life where I felt completely relaxed and carefree that scripture made perfect sense and was impeccably/utterly rational.
..... AM I THE ONLY ONE?
---more_excellent_way on 12/10/21

No you are not the only one. Im 65. I felt that way 40 years. Not now. No man (woman) can twist GODs witnesses to confusion or false doctrine when witnesses are sought and applied. Gonna believe men or GODs prophets?
As foundational find New Covenant. Heb 8:8-10. Believe GOD? Find why it is worded the way it is. Find Jer 31:31-33.
Gen 17:7, 32:28. Lev 20:26, Deu 7:6-9, 10:15, 14:2, 29:13, 32:8-9.
2Sam 7:23-24. Many many more lay out fundamental truths, that denoms avoid. They must.
---Trav on 12/12/21


Teachers can be imperfect. This is why we shouldn't 100% rely on what preachers tell us, but we should study things for ourselves, like the Bereans. Paul praised the Bereans, because they didn't just take everything they were told for granted - they "searched the scriptures daily, to see if these things be so".

If a teacher teaches you something wrong, and you believe it uncritically, it's like the blind leading the blind, and both fall into a pit.
---StrongAxe on 12/12/21


Our teachers neglect to teach us SO MUCH that is important for us to know.
---more_excellent_way on 12/11/21

I agree that teachers neglect much. They must. They are not authorized by GOD. Otherwise they could not and would not neglect.

If you believe this below you wont neglect to post it.

Jer 31:31Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32***** I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel, ***I will put my law in their inward parts, write it in their hearts, will be their God, they shall be my people.
---Trav on 12/12/21


Our teachers neglect to teach us SO MUCH that is important for us to know. The Lord decided to make a plan to get us back even though the LAW OF SIN/DEATH would prevent our return....He said....

I WILL BE ANGRY WITH YOU NO MORE.

....so He abolished the commandments and replaced them with the law of liberty so we could walk at liberty....
Psa 119:45
and I shall walk at liberty, for I have sought thy precepts.I WILL BE ANGRY WITH YOU NO MORE.

Isa 54:9..(quote from the ESV version of scripture).
This is like the days of Noah[fn] to me:
as I swore that the waters of Noah
should no more go over the earth,
so I have sworn that I will not be angry with you.
Isa 54:9
"For this is like the days of Noah
---more_excellent_way on 12/11/21




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