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How To Read The Bible
Kathr, can you show me where the old testament law states we are to be crucified with Jesus and where Jesus states the same, in the new testament? I'm not asking you to explain Paul's viewpoint but God's. I would like to read it for myself. Thanks.

How To Read The Bible
Kathr, the Gentiles could always be partakers of Jesus, the Passover Lamb. Exodus 12:48-51.

The problem of Paul, is that Jesus had already prayed for, and sent out His apostles to teach All Nations everything He had taught them. "Neither do I pray for these alone but for them also, who believe on me through their word." John 17:17-26 and Matt 28:18-20.

Jesus took the Kingdom of God away from the House of Israel and gave it to a nation who would produce fruit. Matt 33-46. If the Son of God, their Messiah, could not get through to the Jews, why would He sent Peter there?

How To Read The Bible
Kathr, what you call a secret and a mystery was revealed by Jesus to His disciples, long before Paul arrived on the scene. John 15 and John 17.

How To Read The Bible
Samuel, the gift of God is His Son, whose teaching is the living water that Jesus gives to those who thirst. John 4:10-24.

I can agree with this "I will walk in the way of the Holy Spirit, listening to the word of God and the Spirit of Prophecy to find truth and live for Jesus." Yes, the Holy Spirit is our teacher and guide into all truth, John 16:13. The Word of God is in His Son, Rev 19:11-13, John 14:23-24, and the testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of Prophecy, Rev 19:10.

How To Read The Bible
Kathr,I will answer you here since the other blog is full. I believe in the birth, death and resurrection of Jesus...never said I did not.

I believe keeping the commandments plus keeping the Testimony of Jesus is the way to salvation. Repentance and baptism justifies us. Learning and abiding in the teaching of Jesus Christ sanctifies us. 1st John 2:4-6, John 17:17, Rev 12:17.

In Matt 26:26-29 and John 6, Jesus is talking about eating His Words, which He calls the bread of life. God is not just in the old testament but in the new testament also. Jesus received His Father's teaching. John 12:49-50, John 14:23-24, Matt 17:5.

Still Call Themselves Sinners
RichardC, Jesus testified to the authenticity of the Prophets. Jeremiah was a prophet. Matt 5:17, Matt 22:40. Revelation was from God, to Jesus, to Jesus' angel who gave it to John to write down for His (Jesus) servants. It's all there in Rev. 1:1-3.

Kathr, truth mixed with lies spoils the nourishment in the soup. As to your 2nd question, I ask myself who is speaking according to the law and the testimony, Jesus or Paul? The answer is always Jesus. Isaiah 8:20.

Still Call Themselves Sinners
Kathr, no, I do not believe Peter was a false teacher. I believe he was the victim of an identity thief.

Still Call Themselves Sinners
John, no, I don't believe everything in the bible is inspired by the Holy Spirit. Jeremiah 8:8-9.

If Paul believed what he wrote in Timothy 3:15-17, he would have stuck to the scriptures, and not gone beyond them by adding his gospel of grace. He would have preached the Law and the Prophets and the Testimony/Words of Jesus. The latter of which he seems to have no knowledge.

"Anyone who goes too far and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God, the one who abides in the teaching, he has both the Father and the Son." 2nd John 5:9-11, John 20:21-23.

Still Call Themselves Sinners
John, Jesus, bore witness to the Prophets and to Moses. Matt 5:17, Matt 22:40, John 5:45-47, John 7:19.

Kathr, Luke was not a disciple of Jesus but was a convert of Paul's. Luke does not say he knew or followed Jesus during His, Jesus' ministry. His gospel is a letter to someone named Theophllus and although he does mention he has sources for his information, he does not name them.

Still Call Themselves Sinners
Kathr, yes, those are definitely the words of Jesus and they speak for themselves.

Ananias, if he existed was not telling his own story, Paul was speaking for him and telling what Ananias said and did. We never hear Ananias speak for himself. Paul can say whatever he wants about the voice he heard but that does not prove that that voice belonged to Jesus. Jesus, even after His resurrection makes no mention of Paul, not even to His disciples. Nothing, except for what is written in Rev 2:2.

Luke was a follower of Paul and the writer of Acts. He wrote down the description that Paul gave him. Yes, I reject Luke when he does not speak according to the testimony of Jesus.

Still Call Themselves Sinners
Kathr, these are the words of Jesus, "if I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true". He then goes on to give witnesses for Himself. John 5:31-47. Jesus is the Son of God, the perfect Lamb with no sin/blemish. He is not witnessing to His salvation but to the fact that He is, who He says He is. If the Son of God feels the need to supply witnesses for Himself, how much more so does Paul need to give witnesses to his claim that he is chosen by God.

It defies reason to believe that Jesus would choose a Pharisee after hearing His words to them in Matt 23 and not just any Pharisee, but one who is persecuting and killing His followers and one that His new followers will find hard to understand.

Still Call Themselves Sinners
John, I already showed you where Paul lied. Romans 3:7..."for if the truth of God has more abounded through my lie unto His glory..." That is a lie because God's truth does not abound by lies nor do lies bring glory to God.

Luke wrote Acts but was not there to witness Paul's conversion. The men on the road with him cannot be counted as witnesses because they never testify to what they saw or heard, nor does Ananias. They just ride off into the sunset, never to be heard from again. Paul wants to be his own witness but God requires 2 or three witnesses. John 5:31-47.

Still Call Themselves Sinners
John, Paul establishes his own lies when he writes of them in letters and sends them to the Corinthians and Romans.

Jesus bore witness to Abraham, Moses, David and many others including His eyewitness disciples, thereby testifying to their authenticity. Where does He bear witness to Paul?

Still Call Themselves Sinners
John, why don't you be honest with yourself and admit you have no explanation for Paul's lies.

The Spirit of Truth does not inspire lies. "Howbeit, when He, the Spirit of Truth is come, He will guide you into all Truth, for He shall not speak of Himself but whatsoever He shall hear, that shall He speak and He shall you show you things to come. He shall glorify me for He shall receive of mine and shall show it unto you". John 16:7-16.

Still Call Themselves Sinners
John9346, if you know the "self explanatory" context of Paul's lie, please explain it to me. How does a lie abound to God's truth and bring glory to Him?

Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life. Do you think He told fibs to bring glory to His Father? I know He did not. John 8:31-32. What will happen to all liars on judgment day? Rev. 21:7-8.

The Power Of The Law
David, I honestly don't know if the same person wrote 1st and 2nd Peter. I'm not an expert on ancient writings but I do know that the writer of 2nd Peter does not witness to the apostleship of Paul, although he calls him a beloved brother, he does not call him an apostle of Jesus.

Did some people impersonate others in the bible or tamper with their writings? Could that be why God gave fair warning not to do so with the book of prophecy called Revelation? Rev. 22:18-20. I believe so.

There is an interesting conversation that Jesus has with Peter in John 21:14-23. He tells Peter that others would carry him where he would not want to go....

The Power Of The Law
David, you said "A fool gets his knowledge from man, the wise....from God." Exactly. That is why my teacher is the Holy Spirit and not Paul. John 14:26.

The Power Of The Law
"If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true." John 5:31-38. God requires 2 or 3 witnesses. Paul can not be his own witness.

Paul admits to lying at least twice so I don't think I'm being harsh to say he tells falsehoods for he wrote to the Corinthians that "being crafty, I deceived you with a lie" and to the Romans "if through my lie God's truth abounds to His glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?" Really? Does lying ever bring glory to God?

And who calls himself an apostle of Jesus Christ on almost every letter he writes if not Paul. Rev 2:2.

The Power Of The Law
David, thanks for your kind and gentle response.

Luke wrote the book of Acts and much of the information given to him would have come from Paul as Paul was his mentor. Paul doesn't have any witnesses to his conversion that he ever brings forward to tell what they saw or heard and at one point he appeals to Cesar rather than bring forward those men on the road with him or Ananias. Why does Paul appeal to Cesar and not God if he is a chosen vessel of Jesus? I could go on but the word limit does not allow it and if you can't see it then nothing I say will change your mind. Matt 13:36-43.

2nd Peter was most likely not written by Peter. You can check that out for yourself and some scholars believe it was tampered with.

The Power Of The Law
Actually, those under "the law of Moses" didn't keep the law out of fear or love because they didn't keep it at all. At one point God wanted to wipe them all out and start over again by making a kingdom from the seed of Moses. Exodus 32:9-10.

John 14:21 does not say anything about salvation thru grace nor does it say no one can keep the commandments of God. It does say that those who keep His commandments are the ones who love Him and that Jesus will reveal Himself to them. The way this works can be seen in John 3:18-21.

It breaks my heart to see the falsehoods of Paul meshed together with the words of Light and Truth. John 18:37.

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