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Criminalize Christian Beliefs
  
ObamasBoy:

Roman taxes funded heathen temples and armies that enslaved other countries to Rome. Did Jesus tell his followers to oppose Rome and its heinous practices? No. He said, "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's".

When early Christians were required to burn incense to Caesar, they didn't protest idolatry, paganism, and religious discrimination in the streets. They just quietly said no, and were fed to lions. Nowhere do we see New Testament Christians calling out and condeming practices among heathen nations that were acceptable to those nations but abhorrent to Christians. They only did so among their own.

It is one thing to believe in certain principles, and another to to force those beliefs on others.


End Of World September 2017
  
Nicole_Lacey:

Did Rosa Parks sue the bus company? No. She just sat down, period.

The kneeling isn't speech (which is unprotected). The REFUSAL TO STAND is the REFUSAL of political speech - which IS protected.

Please quote something SPECIFIC, and specify exactly which message I said it in. A vague "all the last two weeks" or isn't evidence. You must be SPECIFIC.

That you disagree with my points does NOT prove you are right and I am wrong. That I was not born here doesn't make me incapable of learning. I have read much about American law and many other subjects.


Explain The Bible Code Theory
  
Loony1:

There is nothing in the Bible that explicitly says that secret messages are encoded there and can be deciphered by using "bible codes". People have been able to pull many interesting messages out of the Bible, some of which turned out to be true, and some of which didn't. Given enough time, one could probably pull anything one wanted out of the Bible, or even any other text or even a collection of random letters. Look at any of those word puzzles where you look for words horizontally, vertically, or diagonally. You will usually find additional words that aren't intended to be there, but just happen to be there randomly.


Is There Beauty Discrimination
  
Nicole_Lacey:

Do you mean to tell me that patients who whimper in pain, but manage to smile for a bit while family visit, then go back to whimpering in pain again, get denied pain medication?

Job was a rare exception, a pillar of virtue and morality. That is the whole reason Satan attacked him in the first place. You can hardly expect every single person on the planet to live up to his lofty ideals. And even Job eventually broke and argued with God.


End Of World September 2017
  
Nicole_Lacey:

You wasted half your message chiding me rather than answering my question. Your claim that I don't understand the 1st amendment is empty without PROOF.

I lived here more than half my life. I was required to swear to uphold the constitution (so it behooves me to understand it). Natural born citizens aren't, and many DON'T understand it, including many lawmakers who pass flagrantly unconstitutional laws.


ObamasBoy:

1st Amendment prohibits Congress from limiting free speech, but not private individuals. In West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette 1943, Supreme Court ruled loyalty CANNOT be forced. Your boss can fire you for profanity, but NOT for refusing to pledge allegiance.


Are There Christians Here
  
Haz27:

Colorado provides free birth control, which has LOWERED abortion rates. Texas is viciously anti birth control, and abortion rates are HIGHER.

You constantly rage against the left being pro-abortion, yet in the United States, abortion rates are LOWER in progressive, liberal, Democratic, leftist pro-abortion states than in conservative, Republican, anti-abortion pro-life Bible-belt states. Why? It certainly can't be because of "heartless Atheist Left", because if that's the case, it would mean that the "Theist Right" is even MORE heartless. Please provide a reasonable explanation for this.

Please, more facts and left emotionally-laden rhetoric.


Criminalize Christian Beliefs
  
ObamasBoy:

Please cite even a single Bible verse that says Christians are supposed to force their own moral beliefs on others. I learn what Christianity is all about from the Bible, not from 2000 years of cultural cruft that has become encrusted on it and that tends to dominate much of its thinking.

It's also curious that many people who call themselves Christians tilt at many windmills that Jesus himself never spoke about (e.g. transgenderism, LGBT, drugs), yet are silent about things he DID specifically condemn - divorce, greed, etc. A divorced Christian politician opposing transgenderism is the height of hypocrisy.

But I'll wait for steveng to answer the question I posed specifically to him.


End Of World September 2017
  
Nicole_Lacey:

You wrote: WHO SAID YOU DID? I was addressing Kathr NOT you.
PLEASE make sure I was speaking to you before you start fussing at me.

Earlier: Kathr, I can understand StrongAxe NOT understanding the 1st Amendment but you?

You weren't speaking TO me, but ABOUT me. How did I "not understand" the 1st Amendment? Please cite what I said incorrectly.

The Supreme Court determined speech includes acts of expression, whether by voice, print, or action.

Yes they can. The Hiliary Compaign would NOT tolerate their PAID Staffers to say "VOTE FOR TRUMP!"

As I said, they can FORBID certain speech, but not DEMAND certain speech.


Are There Christians Here
  
Nicole_Lacey:

Most early Christians were not Jews, and didn't know Hebrew. The last letter of their alphabet was Omega, not Tau. When kathr4463 mentioned "T", she meant "Trump".

Jesus said HE would place his mark on his followers. In Revelation, Beast's followers accepted his mark. Nazis marked forearms of concentration camp inmates, and made members of hated groups wear marks on clothing. Those human-made marks were bad things.

Politicians who want people killed are mostly Republicans. Several want all LGBT people killed. At least one "Christian" one said all non-Christians should be killed. Jesus said "love your enemies". Muhammed said "kill them".


Is There Beauty Discrimination
  
Nicole_Lacey:

Wearing shirts and shoes is a matter of hygeine, not outer or inner ugliness.

Signs saying "smile" ENCOURAGE inner beauty, but don't ENFORCE it. They say "smile", not "smile or get out".

Requiring EMPLOYEES to smile is acting, putting on an appearance for customer service, like wearing a uniform. They don't care if you're bitter inside, just don't show it to your customers.

If you are smiling or laughing, your pain is obviously not overbearing, so doctors are right to take that into consideration.

People whom life has kicked around sufficiently much often develop bitter attitudes. (See Paul McCartney's song, "Live and let die").


Criminalize Christian Beliefs
  
Steveng:

Can you explain just which Christian beliefs are criminalized? The Bible calls on Christians not to judge, lest ye be judged, yet many Christians judge others (whether they are non-Christians, adulterers, LGBT, or whatever) by Christian standards, and attempt to force their values on others, and then whine when others object to having those values forced upon them.

Such people judge - and guess what? They are judged in return AS A RESULT. Jesus warned them not to do it, they did it anyway, and they reap the consequences Jesus himself warned them about.


Is Disaster Looting Sinful
  
Nicole_Lacey:

You wrote: NO THEY ARE NOT! It is AGAINST the LAW not to have AC.

And, as we all know, it is physically impossible to break a law, right?

The nursing home HAD AC. However, the generators they had were enough to power all their other equipment, but not AC. (In my house, in summer, AC takes twice the power of everything else in the house combined.) Administrator called governor asking for emergency help as patients were dying, but he ignored the voice mails for several days, and later deleted them from his phone, pretending they were never sent.


Coming Of Messiah Shofarot
  
Steveng:

Yes, all is profitable, when it it understood in the RIGHT CONTEXT in which it is given.

Acts says, "Judas hung himself". Jesus once said, "Do ye therefore likewise". At the last supper, he told Judas, "What you must do, do quickly".

If you take these words at face value and out of context, you might think Jesus is encouraging suicide, which would be a totally ludicrous conclusion.

Do you obey every single command God has given everyone everywhere? When did you slay Philistines? Or build an ark? Or raise your arms to part the Red Sea? None of those commands were addressed to us, and clearly, God does not expect you, or me, or anyone else today to carry them out.


End Of World September 2017
  
Nicole_Lacey:

I never said the First Amendment applied to private employers. I said the Supreme Court ruled that employers cannot FORCE employees to perform political acts. Please criticize what I actually say, not what you think I mean.

There is a big difference between an employee insisting on saying something that an employer does not want him to say (e.g. proselytizing for religion or politics), and an employee declining to say something that an employer wants him to say (e.g. saluting the flag). An employer can FORBID certain kinds of speech, but it cannot DEMAND certain kinds of speech.


Are There Christians Here
  
Haz27:

The church is called to police itself, not the world. Since the right wraps itself in the Bible and claims to stand for Christian principles, it makes itself subject to Christian scrutiny and judgment (and ridicule by the world if it falls short of those principles, as one thing both Christians and non-Christians agree upon is that hypocrisy is abhorrent). Inasmuch as the left does not claim to be driven by Christian principles, it is outside the Church's jurisdiction. Jesus condemned hypocrites but ate with prostitutes.

Today I saw a map of the world's least religious countries: Australia, Canada, Japan, UK, Sweden, etc. - and another map of the world's least violent countries. Curiously, both maps were virtually identical.


Is There Beauty Discrimination
  
Nicole_Lacey:

Just try to rent apartments and say "bitter people need not apply". Just try running a store and saying "frowny people keep out". Just try to run a business and only hire people who smile.

I had already mentioned that certain industries whose very basis is vanity (e.g. modeling, film) naturally discriminate based on vain attributes like looks, but you CAN'T do so for essential services. Can you imagine if a hospital ER didn't accept patients who weren't beautiful? (Too bad for burn victims!).

Also, "inner ugliness" is also in the eye of the beholder. If someone is bitter or untrusting, they may have a very good reason that you probably know nothing about.


End Of World September 2017
  
Nicole_Lacey:

WHO was not abused? Context please.

You aren't forced to watch a protest. You can not go to a game. You can go to a game and walk out, like Pence did. The only difference is that when you walk out, you lose the price of a ticket. When he staged his pre-arranged fake walk out, it cost the American taxpayers a quarter million dollars. WE were forced to pay for HIS protest.

Yes, wear your shirt and eat hotdogs, as you will.

Players have to wear uniforms. So what? So do many other professions. They can't eat while on duty. So what? Neither can most other workers (except on non-paid lunch breaks).


End Of World September 2017
  
Nicole_Lacey:

Rosa Parks didn'f force ANYONE to do ANYTHING. The only thing she did was to refuse to allow OTHERS to force her where to sit.

I don't see what good 1 minute of Trump speeches will do. Every time he opens his mouth, his speeches are incoherent mumbling. They are even worse than George W. Bush's, whose speeches were bad.

Standing at the anthem is not their job. It is called the National Football League, because they are hired for their ability to play football. It is not the National Anthem League, and they do not hire people based on their ability to stand at attention.


Are There Christians Here
  
Haz27:

"It's sad to see you have little understanding of God's word as to misuse scripture the same way as Atheist Lefties do." is as faulty as "You say 2+2=4. Hitler says 2+2=4. Hitler was wrong. Therefore you are wrong.".

It's sad to see you have little understanding of elementary logic and misuse it in an attempt to hold a debate.

We are still charged with sin - but WE no longer pay for it. Jesus did. HE still bears the consequences. This is why we don't have a free license to sin.

1 John was written to Christians. We are not FREE of sin.
v7 says he PURIFIES us from sin - unnecessary if we don't have it.
v8: If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.


Is Disaster Looting Sinful
  
Haz27:

Again you quote Bezmanov as some kind of prophet. Unwillingness to see truth also applies to you.

As for "insulting slander", in almost every single message, you insult me personally, using terms like "your Leftist leaders", "brainwashing you received", "claiming victimhood" etc. I give you the credit of assuming you are an adult, and capable of thinking for yourself, and speaking your own mind. Please do me the same courtesy.

And forget "always DEM". You keep forgetting of the major shift in party policies between the 50s and 60s. The 1956 Republican platform was almost entirely 2016 Democratic talking points. KKK is THOROUGHLY Trumpist Republican now.



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