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Jesus Takes Our Sin
God cannot look at be in that moment separated from the Father
---kathr4453 on 10/13/17

I must disagree with these statements.

First, Jesus was always God even on the cross. In fact, Paul tells us in 2 Cor 5:21, Jesus became our sin so that we can be reconciled to the Father.

Second, Jesus was never separated from the Father. In John 16:32 Jesus tells His disciples they will be scattered but He will not be alone, because the Father is with Him.

Our understanding of the Trinity tells us that Jesus was always God, will always be God, and will always be in a relationship with the Father and the Holy Spirit so close that it is described as "one".

This was true every second on the cross.

Is DACA Legal
SCOTUS can hear ANY case from ANY jurisdiction that has been appealed all the way up the chain, not only federal cases.
---StrongAxe on 9/9/17


SCOTUS is a federal court. It cannot hear cases from state courts unless these cases involve federal law or federal rights being infringed.

States have their own Supreme Courts to hear appellate cases that do not involve federal laws.

Many cases involve both State and Federal law which complicates jurisdiction.

Is DACA Legal
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/8/17

This is the traditional understanding.

The DACA ruling is from a case of private citizens suing the Executive Branch (at the time) saying that the DACA EO or DACA Executive directive violated existing federal law.

SCOTUS can only hear a case if federal law is involved, or citizens rights under the constitution are infringed. And SCOTUS does not rule on whether a law is constitutional or not.

Is DACA Legal
The Supreme Court has already declined to rule against it, so it's not illegal until someone actually challenges it to the Supreme Court again
---StrongAxe on 9/7/17

This attitude shows why our government is struggling.

We have a federal government of three EQUAL branches. SCOTUS is not supreme over the POTUS who is not supreme over the Congress. Only Congress can pass bills into law. DACA is not a law, Congress did not pass the Dreamers bill into law. DACA is either an Executive Order or a directive from the Executive Branch.

Therefore, any EO or directive from the Executive Branch can be changed or rescinded by the Executive Branch. SCOTUS has no part in the discussion, because they only rule on LAWS.

America's Historical Monuments
No actual history is actual and NOT depended on HOW people wish to remember it or not.
---Nicole_Lacey on 8/31/17

You have way too much energy invested in this.

Monuments are not history. The history is the actual battles and the men who served. History is remembered by the individuals who participated, by the friends and family they told, and by the families who sent their men. It is also remembered by the reporters who saw and wrote of what they saw.

I am not discussing the rewriting of history. I am discussing the actual statues and effigies erected. These monuments do not change history one way or another. Putting up a monument does not change history, just as taking one down does not change history.

America's Historical Monuments
Suppose the people are honestly wrong on the purpose of the monuments?
---Nicole_Lacey on 8/30/17

Monuments are not history. They are just symbols of a history that someone wants to remember.

Actual history is something else and how it is remembered is up to individuals.

I have lived in NC for 25 years. I am originally from an area of the country where Generals Grant, Sherman, and Sheridan were from. When I first came to NC, I heard a lot about us "Yankees" coming down south. And if I told them where I was originally from, it would start arguments.

People here choose to keep the Confederacy in their hearts. It is their history. But don't ask me to support it.

America's Historical Monuments
All people should have a voice in whether or not they are removed - not just a band of criminal thugs.
---Jerry6593 on 8/30/17

I agree. My exact sentiments.

Our governor has made a statement that he desires all the Confederate monuments removed from government property. That is his opinion, not law. Can he arbitrarily remove them?

No, it requires a repeal of 2015 Law. Only the Legislature can begin to remove the monuments. They represent the people and are our voice.

For us in NC, this same Legislature that passed the 2015 law is unlikely to author a bill to repeal it or to give Governor Cooper anything he wants.

America's Historical Monuments
Is tearing down America's historical monuments wrong?
---Jerry6593 on 8/23/17

No, provided, it is done according to the law.

Monuments are memorials to something people want to remember. What people want to remember changes over time, and our monuments should reflect that. Perhaps people no longer want to remember the War between the States. But to break the law to remove the monuments is wrong.

I live in NC. I live right on the border of NC and SC, but I purposefully chose to live in NC because SC was flying the Star & Bars over the State Capital and I see that flag as a traitorous symbol. SC has since stopped flying the Stars & Bars over the State Capital and I am happy about it.

Commandments From Jesus
Those in Christ Jesus are walking in Christ. Not living in sin.
---Samuelbb7 on 8/1/17

I agree Samuel. We cannot be in Christ, in communion with Jesus, if we are living in sin. I am not declaring this. I do not know how you got here.

But what I am saying is that we in Christ are no longer under the law because the requirement of the law has been satisfied by Jesus for us.

And that's why there is no condemnation for those in Christ, because the law has no power over us to condemn us.

Commandments From Jesus
In (John 8:34) Jesus tells us everyone who sins is a slave to sin. Do you believe him?
---David on 8/1/17

I believe Jesus, I do not believe your translation.

First. Context. The context is about being a slave or free. Not about sin.

Second. The verse says "...everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin..." yet the word translated "commits" in English, is in Greek, a Present Tense Verb Participle which indicates continuous action, habitual action, or a "lifestyle" action.

For example, if you play tennis once in your life, you are not a tennis player. But if you play every week, why then you are a tennis player.

Jesus says if you habitually commit sin, you are its slave.

What Is Vain Philosophy
Worship is the act of Loving GOD. Which leads to loving our neighbor.
---Samuelbb7 on 7/31/17

I think your statement describes part of our relationship with our God, the Trinity.

I need to know I am loved, accepted, and I have assurance in my relationship with Jesus, His Father, and the Holy Spirit. I need to know that I was loved and wanted from the foundation of the world, and no matter what I do, good or bad, that love will never change.

For my part, I need to believe, trust, and depend upon God. I involve God in all aspects and activities in my life. God is the source and reason for every good thing in my life and I praise and worship Him for that.

Anything other than this relationship is religion.

Commandments From Jesus
If you are not under the Law, can you give me an example of sin that makes you a sinner?
---David on 8/1/17

I refuse to play your games about sin and the Law.

Read on in Romans until you get to this:

Romans 8:1-4 "Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit"

Commandments From Jesus
You don't believe you are a sinner, because you don't believe you are under the Law.
---David on 7/29/17

Where do you get this from? Is this your line when anyone challenges your belief that we don't believe we can sin?

I am a sinner saved by grace. I am no longer under the law, because I am now in Christ.

Read John 14:20 instead of quoting John 14:21.

I am in Jesus, and Jesus is in the Father. Is Jesus under the Law? Jesus is in the Father, is the Father under the Law?

You do not know the position of the believer. Read John 15:1-6.

We are abiding in Jesus, partaking of His accomplishments, including His fulfillment of the Law.

Commandments From Jesus
maybe the Holy Spirit gave you the correct interpretation
---David on 7/28/17

I am trying to answer you, Jerry, and Samuel and not all my posts get thru.

I may have been replying to a response by Jerry, although you two agree on this issue it seems.

As you have said, we will continue to disagree on this subject.

I understand your viewpoint, but you do not want to know mine. I am sad for you. You cannot have any peace and feel acceptance from God if you have to constantly confess and make sure everything is confessed. Where is the love, forgiveness, and acceptance from God that we all need?

Your G.O.D. is not the God of my understanding.

Commandments From Jesus
I will admit there are very few verses which use the phrase "confession of sin"... ---David on 7/27/17

I knew that 1 John 1:9 would be the only verse you would use. And you are reading into the verse, not out of it.

The verse does not say we must confess our sins before we are forgiven. No, read it again. The verse also does not say that if we do not confess our sins they will not be forgiven.

The context of the verse is 1 John 1:6 "If we say that we have fellowship with Him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth".

Again the emphasis of the passage is on fellowship, relationship.

What Is Vain Philosophy
And all "RELIGION " is actually a philosophy....and is vain...appealing to the old sin nature
---kathr4453 on 4/29/17

I agree.

Religion is about "what I am doing" to be righteous toward God.

I think the most religious people in history were the Pharisees. They devoted their life to a difficult and tedious practice of commandments, festivals, and sacrifices.

And yet, Jesus said to them in John 5: "You have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His form and You do not have His word abiding in you".

What a slap in the face!

But religion takes your focus off God, and places it on yourself. They did not know God, but they did know how hard they worked.

Commandments From Jesus
However, the NT uses the word "Repent" over 40 times, and confession of sin is inferred in these verses.
---David on 7/27/17

The word "repent" is a translation of the Greek word "metanoia" which means to change your mind or to change the direction of your thinking.

Metanoia does not have the concept of penitence in it. It does not infer confession. It does not infer regret, or sorrow, or contrition.

All these have been heaped on by a mistranslation of the word metanoia. Other words express these emotions, such as confession, contrition, and supplication.

The word Repent means "to pent again" or to be penitent again. Not to change your mind.

Commandments From Jesus
Only past sins are forgiven, and those only when repented of.
---Jerry6593 on 7/26/17

BCV please for your proof.

Here are some of mine:

Heb 9:26 "Otherwise, He would have needed to suffer often since the foundation of the world, but now once at the consummation of the ages He has been manifested to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself"

Col 2:13-14 "When you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions, having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us, and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross"

Commandments From Jesus
If God forgives your sin, you are under the Law. If there is no change, you are under Grace.
---David on 7/25/17

Do you ever read Romans 6?

Rom 6:14-15 " For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law but under grace. What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? May it never be!"

It is plain that we are under grace and not under law. Period. No matter what the state of your confession is, we are under grace.

And God has already forgiven your sin way back at the cross. Confession of your sin is for you, not for God. If you don't believe that, then answer this. Why are you told to confess your sins one to another?

Commandments From Jesus
To be honest, I was completely ignorant that Protestants don't believe they can sin.
---David on 7/23/17

Sin is not the issue, relationship is.

As Jerry agrees, sin has been dealt with by Jesus death, burial, and resurrection. All sin has been forgiven by God as far as the east is from the west.

Why do you want to remember it?

Our relationship with Jesus is our primary focus. Our second focus is our relationship with all other humans.

It is that simple. Anything more complicated is religion, not relationship.

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