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Saturday Is Day To Worship

John: "Saturday or Sunday who cares as long as one day per week there is a day of rest."

Apparently God cares, since He set the Sabbath apart as the ONLY holy day and commanded that we REMEMBER it.

Cluny: You've got the wrong guy. I never said ax was AN atheist. I think his theology is somewhat off, but I'd never call him an atheist.

ax: Your mental gymnastics not withstanding, you said what you said and then claimed that you didn't say it. How puerile.

Who Is The AntiChrist

Cluny: We've been over this all before. I never mentioned the pope, but you like to defend him. Interesting. The Antichrist 666 is the number of a MAN, but Ellen White was a WOMAN. You seem to be having gender identity issues. She is also not a city, never blasphemed, didn't arise from pagan Rome, didn't persecute God's people for 1260 years or try to change times and laws.

And yes, the entire world (except you) considers Rome to be the city of seven hills.

Saturday Is Day To Worship

ax: "I didn't say that."

You could at least be honest.

You said "Inasmuch as Jesus is NOT God".

YES, Jesus IS fully God as well as fully man. Furthermore, the God of the Old Testament IS indeed Jesus. c.f.:

Heb 1:2 ... his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds,

1Co 10:4 ... for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

Joh 5:39 Search the scriptures, for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

Luk 24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

Saturday Is Day To Worship

Cluny: "Of which day is He NOT the Lord, Jerry?"

The Bible does not record such a thing. However, Jesus does specifically say that He is Lord of the Sabbath, and He wrote that the Sabbath was made holy - i.e., "sanctified" or "set apart" in character from the other week days.

Ax seems to think that Jesus was not the God of the Old Testament who wrote the Ten Commandments. What is your opinion?

Is DACA Legal

Is DACA legal? NO! Just like everything else the faux president B.O. did, it's illegal.

Who Is The AntiChrist

The Antichrist:

Is both a woman (church) and a city.

Has it's seat on seven mountains.

Arises from among the 10 nations after the fall of pagan Rome, and as a "little horn," it roots up 3 of the 10.

Is diverse from the other powers - as iron and clay are unmixable.

Has the eyes of a man and a name which may be counted to total 666.

Speaks blasphemy - two examples of which are given by the Bible as (1) claiming to be God and (2) claiming the power to forgive sins against God.

Persecuted the saints of God for 1260 years (42 months or 3 1/2 times).

Thinks to change times and laws.

Suffered a deadly wound that was healed.

And all the world wonders after this Beast.

Saturday Is Day To Worship

ax: "Inasmuch as Jesus is NOT God"

What? You don't believe in the divinity of Christ? That explains a lot!

Jesus Declared Himself to be Lord of the Sabbath Day. He never made such a statement about Sunday.

Saturday Is Day To Worship

ax: "When did Jesus ever say "Thou shalt worship on the Sabbath"?"

Jesus wrote with His own finger in stone:

Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

He NEVER sanctified Sunday in such a manner.

Saturday Is Day To Worship

ax: "Paul wrote that some people consider ALL days to be equally holy, and for each to be persuaded in his own mind - i.e. Paul, an apostle of Christ, says it's fine to worship on any day we choose."

I'm sure that you WANT the scripture (Rom 14) to say that, but it is not talking about alternative worship days of the week, as I explained below. Besides, don't you find it strange that Paul would contradict Jesus?

(FYI Ellen White agrees with the entire Bible - including Paul.)

Saturday Is Day To Worship

We were hit by Irma. I just got power and internet back last night.

RichardC: "I believe Sunday worship comes from these verses"

How so? The verses describe a funeral embalming after "resting the Sabbath day according to the Commandment."

"I think it has to do with the Old sabbath ending?"

Not so! Jesus proclaimed Sabbath valid 40 years in the future.

Mat 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

Riolin: "What the Bible does say is from Romans 14:5-6"

Yeh, it says that eating meat dedicated to idols on yearly feast days is no big deal - personal opinion OK. No mention of Sunday or of worship.

Saturday Is Day To Worship

Cluny, please give book, chapter, and verse where "He made ALL time sacred". My Bible only records that He made the seventh day Sabbath holy. Why do you continue to base your beliefs on what the Bible does not say while ignoring what it does say?

Why do you not esteem the Ten Commandments as your orthodox Denomination does?

Is DACA Legal

Josef: To become a law, a bill must be approved (voted upon) by both the House and Senate, and then signed into law by the President. DACA was "invented" by the President (Obama) only, and thus (according to our Constitution) is not Law. We have immigration laws in place already, and they should be enforced, even if it means jail time for the law breakers.

Saturday Is Day To Worship

Cluny: "The Sabbath commandment says NOTHING about worship."

The entire Bible says NOTHING about SUNDAY worship or its sacredness. The Bible says that ONLY SABBATH is HOLY. You continue to base your religion on that which is missing in the Bible. Why are you at odds with your Orthodox Denomination's veneration of the Ten Commandments?

Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one SABBATH to another, shall all flesh come to WORSHIP before me, saith the LORD.

Is DACA Legal

Cluny: "The problem with DACA and other things from the previous administration is that nothing in the Constitution allows the President to rule by decree, bypassing Congress."

Amen! Obama thought he was a Dictator, and that all he needed was a pen and a phone. And because the main-stream media had his back, he got away with it. His was a completely LAWLESS administration.

America's Historical Monuments

Kathr: "Looks like they are FAILING in Latan [sic] American countries. Why?"

I can tell you why in one word - SOCIALISM. Both Argentina and Venezuela were highly prosperous countries until they became Communist Dictatorships. Socialism ruins economies and starves people whenever and wherever it is tried. Don't believe it? Look at N. Korea, Cuba, etc.

What Is A Terrorist Organization

ax: "I actually lived through the administrations of 12 presidents."

Were those your native Canadian Presidents? I have only experienced 2 conservative Presidents in my lifetime (which extends back to FDR) - Eisenhower and Reagan. The Bushes, Clinton and Obama all hated Reagan and what he stood for, as do you leftists here. Reagan stood for smaller government, less taxes, and freedom of choice without government bullying.

Do you leftists here (you know who you are) actually endorse the lawless behavior of the Antifa & BLM thugs empowered by Obama and Soros?

What Is A Terrorist Organization

Haz: "I thought you all were for women's rights?"

The leftists are not FOR anything. They are always against everything decent. Theirs is the way of Satan - one of force, destruction, anger and hatred. They are never content to live and let live, but to tear down, destroy, and upset the order of rational society for their own self aggrandizement. That's why they can never be true Christians - because they only know how to hate and not love.

Did you notice the difference in deportment of the Tea Party crowds a few years ago as compared to that of the current anti-Trump crowds? Christ-like vs. Satanic!

Saturday Is Day To Worship


//God blessing the Sabbath is actually in Genesis 1, not the Decalogue.//

Actually, it is in both:

Gen 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

//You don't actually think that earthly time is experienced in heaven, do you?//

I believe the Bible, and that it was written for our understanding (see Rev 2:5,6,7).

What Is A Terrorist Organization

I think that Antifa and BLM are the end result of Obama's community organizing. The radical left, be it progressive, communist, liberal, or Fabian Socialist, has its roots in the notion that social utopia is achieved by first employing anarchy and chaos. The only equality that socialism produces is equality of misery.

Nicole: Do you think that we white people would be called "racist" if we had a "United White People College Fund" or a "White Lives Matter" band of thugs? Oh, that's right, we do have the band of thugs. It is called the KKK, and they are ALL Democrats.

Saturday Is Day To Worship

Cluny: "Great Moses mystically prefigured this present day when he said, And God blessed the seventh day."

Two points: First, it wasn't Moses who spoke from Mt. Sinai or wrote those sacred words in stone with his own finger - it was God Himself, and specifically, it was Jesus.

Secondly, the weekly Sabbath Commandment begins with the word REMEMBER, and thus is not a "prefigure" of anything. We don't "remember" the future!

The only future event symbolized by the weekly Sabbath is the millennial rest in Heaven after 6000 years on earth. But you don't believe that, do you?

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