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strongaxe states, "I believe what Scripture ACTUALLY SAYS. I don't necessarily believe what people use psychic powers to read beteen the lines but isn't actually there."

What does Psychit Powers have to do with Eph 2:19-20, Acts 1:21-25, Jude 1:3, Rev 21:14 explaining to us that there are no more apolstes today??

On a prior posting you stated that the bible isn't, "Clear." so what is it sir are the Scriptures not clear and if they are not how then can you say, ""I believe what Scripture ACTUALLY SAYS.""

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nicole ask, "Why do you both accept Martin Luther's 66 book Bible when he had a 73 Book Bible as a Catholic Bible?"

Nicole, cardinal cajetan and cardinal Seripando both rejected the apocrypha they both emphasize to follow Jerome in rejecting the apocrypha. If you as a follower of the rcc know anything about these men your arguments against Luther is "Unfounded."...

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"St. Jerome distinguished between canonical books and ecclesiastical books. The latter he judged were circulated by the Church as good spiritual reading but were not recognized as authoritative Scripture. The situation remained unclear in the ensuing centuries...For example, John of Damascus, Gregory the Great, Walafrid, Nicolas of Lyra and Tostado continued to doubt the canonicity of the deuterocanonical books."

(The New Catholic Encyclopedia, on The Canon).

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kathr states, "Strongaxe, since scripture is God breathed, and God the Father KNOWS only He and the Holy Spirit were present at the moment Jesus was raised from the dead, there can be no other definition of those who witnessed Jesus Resurrection,"

Kathr, not sure if you are aware strongaxe doesn't believe Scripture is, "God-breathe."

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Reuben ask, "No, what do u mean that the church in acts did not teach infallibility,, confession?"

Meaning the Church of Acts 2 didn't teach Papal Infallibility and confession in a Roman Catholic Context...

How Was Christianity Maintained

Meaning in a Roman Catholic Context.

How Was Christianity Maintained

samuelBB7 states, "Roman Catholics are indeed Christians. We disagree with the Theology."

Sir, this is absolutely false...

You should apologize for those reading here seeking to learn the truth...

Brother Sister In Christ
samuelBB7 states, "Nicole they are not twin brothers according to Latter day Saints doctrines. Just same Father different mothers."

Sir, did you not read Mormon Sources/authorities telling you what they believe??

I think they should know they are the ones who taught it...

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Sir, you are misunderstanding what I am saying and what Scripture is saying. I stated according to Acts 1:21-25 that the Apostolic Criteria is that one must have been an Eyewitness of the Resurrected Christ, it was never stated the actual resurrection...

See qualifications again:

1. One had to be ordained by the Lord Jesus Christ himself.

2. One had to be appointed by the Lord Jesus Christ himself.

3. One had to be an Eyewitness of the Resurrected Christ.

No one alive today can meet these qualifications...

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strongaxe states, "It's not that I disbelieve what scripture says, just what people read between the lines."

And sir respectfully on the Essentials thats everything... and this is the sin of "Unbelief."

Strongaxe, to reject the "Scriptures." is to reject God my friend...

You say God is your Ultimate Authority, but not the God who is revealed in the Holy Scriptures my friend...

Sir, why not just be honest and say what you believe if you don't believe in Scripture just say it instead of pretending... Not trying to afend you sir, but I am asking you to be honest...

Are you an agnostic? atheist? A follower of Liberal Theology?

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strongaxe ask, "How can you say categorically there are no more apostles?"

Good question,According to Scripture there were 3 qualifications that had to be met in order to be an apostle:

1. One had to be ordained by the Lord Jesus Christ himself.

2. One had to be appointed by the Lord Jesus Christ himself.

3. One had to be an Eyewitness of the Resurrected Christ.

Sir, who do you know today by name who meets all of these qualifications? Tell me, so I can go see them :-)

Also, see, Rev 21:14

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strongaxe states, "Nowhere does 1 Corinthians 15:3-8 say ANYONE witnessed the resurrection."

Sir, Respectfully, Your stating falsely...

5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:

6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once, of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.

7 After that, he was seen of James, then of all the apostles.

8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.

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strongaxe said, "What, exactly do I need to repent OF? We were talking about whether the canon is closed - so I asked you to show me which scripture REQUIRED proper belief about the canon in order to be saved."

Sir, you have been provided those Scriptures as well as the Scriptures concerning the close of the canon, the ceasing of revelation, and there are no more apostles today...

Sir, why not just be honest and say you don't believe in Scripture?

For the third time ""Strongaxe, tell me, what is your "Ultimate Authority?" for faith and practice??"

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Nicole states, "John, I have quoted many of Jerome citing his disagreement but declaring he will submission to the Pope and the Church."

Ma'am, respectfully, about Jerome you refuse to read Jerome's Words in its complete context. Nicole, that is dishonest ma'am... Also, the source you cited was a RCC Source that cited parts of Jerome not his full conversation...

There is nothing to discuss on Luther having a 73 books bible because when he came to the truth he realize he had been lied to just like on everything else...

You still haven't provided 3 sources prior to Luther that show the apocrypha has always been "Scripture."

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Ma'am, the real question is do you understand?

The American Catholics are clear that they are catholic, but not Roman Catholic.... They even list there differences with Rome.

"No, I have heard a Melkite say they are a Melkite maybe, or a Catholic, but NEVER A Roman Catholic."

You just prooved my point. Melkites are clear they're not "Roman." Catholic, that they are, "Catholic." so you see its not just a "Christian." thing...

Brother Sister In Christ

The book of Mormon is more correct than the Bible, (History of the Church, vol. 4, p. 461).

Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers and we were all born as siblings in heaven to them both, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 163).

God used to be a man on another planet (Mormon Doctrine, p. 321, Joseph Smith, Times and Seasons, vol. 5, p. 613-614, Orson Pratt, Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 345, Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 333).

After you become a good Mormon, you have the potential of becoming a god (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345-347, 354).

Brother Sister In Christ

There is a mother god (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 443).
God is married to his goddess wife and has spirit children (Mormon Doctrine, p. 516).

The trinity is three separate Gods: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. "That these three are separate individuals, physically distinct from each other, is demonstrated by the accepted records of divine dealings with man," (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 35).

There are many gods (Mormon Doctrine, p. 163).

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You stated falsely because Paul stated who he seen not, "Received." sir,furthremore, Paul corrects you because you are trying to argue Paul isn't an apostle but Paul did meet the Apostolic Criteria see 1 Cor 15:3-8...

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strongaxe states, "Nothing in this passage says anything about "canon", nor anything about "salvation"."

First, remember you ask for salvation not for the canon i've all ready given you Scripture for the close of the canon. Another verse for the close of the canon is Jude 1:3...

Next, if you reject 2 Tim 3:16-17 explain what makes one wise unto salvation?

Explain, what is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness?

Strongaxe, please explain to everyone here what makes the man of God perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works??

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I would like for you to tell me and everyone else here, "Strongaxe, tell me, what is your "Ultimate Authority?" for faith and practice??

This is my Second Time asking you.

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