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Jesus Takes Our Sin
  
So with that Obamasboy, split hairs if you want, but from Adam and Eve to Cain and Able, God showed exactly HOW one was considered righteous in His Eyes. Hebrews 11 will explain. Abel offered a BLOOD sacrifice, Cain did not. You see the outcome.

Job also knew about making a sacrifice....even for his children....

It was no secret until the Law or Jesus death and resurrection that man no matter what WERE SINNERS.

AND Mark_Eaton, again, I disagree with your scripture you are using to make some point that has nothing to do with...IN ADAM ALL DIE. clearly stated in Romans 5. It was ADams SIN that DEATH passed on to all man.


Jesus Takes Our Sin
  
Romans2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another,)

16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

Also showing there is no such thing as total depravity where man has no conscience of right and wrong.

Romans 5 clearly say that from Adam to Moses there was no LAW. However before that and even now man has a conscience. Romans 1-2 say even without the Law of Moses they are without excuse.


Is There Beauty Discrimination
  
Perfection is demanded of us from God. No excuses
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/19/17

Wrong again. 7 is equated to perfection in Gods eyes. Falling short is 6 also equals unregenerate man or just the number of man. Now we know the ONLY one who is PERCECT Is the Lord....A 7. And scripture says we are perfected forever those who are SANCTIFIED IN CHRIST. Hebrews 10. My standing IN CHRIST is that IN HIM I am perfect, ONLY because He is Perfect.

Perfect IN CHRIST is also what it is to be COMPLETE In Christ, again what 7 again means.

We all know the Catholic Church teaches a WORKS salvation. And We all know Nicole continues the teaching of the Catholic Churches WORKS Salvation.

They deny the FINISHED WORKS OF CHRIST.


Is There Beauty Discrimination
  

Natural law will determine one's eternal destiny.

Our works of charity/conduct or lack of them are used by Jesus.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/19/17

Our works may determine our REWARDS in heaven, but not our eternal destiny. Our eternal life is based on JESUS FINISHED WORKS ON THE CROSS not our works.

There are many wonderful Hindu etc, who I'm sure do wonderful works, but do not believe Jesus died for their sin.

If man could work their way to heaven ...(our eternal destiny) , then Jesus died in vain.

Surprised Loony1 would encourage apostasy doctrine here ....hummm


Jesus Takes Our Sin
  
David, I believe you are twisting Pauls words in Timothy. There was no LAW, as in the LAW of Moses from Adam to Moses. There was the moral law of conscience. Now if I were born between Moses and before Jesus Death and resurrection, and belonged to one of the tribes of Israel under the Law, that would apply. TODAY I live after Jesus Death and resurrection, and the Law pointed to sin, where then Grace pointed to a remedy. Today as a saved sinner I live by GRACE through FAITH. And where we are taught the LAW is not of FAITH, also spoken in scripture. I live by the Faith of Jesus Christ IN ME. No I was not born that way, I was SAVED that way.


Jesus Takes Our Sin
  
Habakkuk 1:13 Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity: wherefore lookest thou upon them that deal treacherously, and holdest thy tongue when the wicked devoureth the man that is more righteous than he?

So we do see scripture that does actually God cannot look at sin.


Jesus Takes Our Sin
  
Mark_Eaton, your verses are great but stil do not PROVE God didn't look away from sin at that very moment. I still believe what I believe based on what was taught in the OT re the Tabernacle, Holy of Holies etc. nothing you say will change my mind or the minds of those who also believe as I do.

You are FREE to believe as you do as well. Trying to force verses out of context to fit doesn't work either.

Jesus said it, and if it were not so, He would not have said it. It has meaning....and NOT just that it was in Psalms 22. I believe sin itself separated God from man when Adam sinned, and is exactly WHY the Word was made flesh to reconcile man back to God.

But it also may be you don't believe in original sin.


Revolutionary Communist Party
  
Darlene1 gave you awesome wisdom and advise Nicole. LOVE! That does not falsely accuse. ***1st Corinthians 13. or bust into unrelated blogs continuing on with your false accusations, asking others to help you trash and troll other bloggers. I Forgive you for doing that.

People bold text , some change its color to red or blue, some underline, some CAP, and some italicize, and none of those insinuate racism. If Bolding a text is blatant racism in someones face ...there would be law suits galore And Microsoft or whoever would have to stop allowing folks to use them, if that is what it means.

There are no jokes attached to my bolded text either. If there is, I'd like to know what the joke is.


Jesus Takes Our Sin
  
Isaiah 59:2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.

Well this verse NIX'S the shadow of turning theory. There is no shadow of turning with God, meaning He is as good as His Word. He will not lie or go back on His Word. And when you ask wisdom, ask in faith BELIEVING , not doubting His promises.

Mark_Eaton, we have a promise...that because Jesus bore our sin, took OUR judgement, and took OUR Wrath, that God said those now "In Christ", I will never leave you or forsake you. NOTHING can separate us from the love of God IN CHRIST JESUS, life, death nothing.

That's what you should be telling folks.


Jesus Takes Our Sin
  
15......16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey, whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. 18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
---kathr4453 on 10/18/17

David, yes, and the doctrine I obeyed was total surrender. That's what yielding your members unto God means. I posted all those verses, in Romans 6 leading up to your verse, before and after. Also is again reiterated in Romans 12:1-2.

You have to read the WHOLE TEXT.


Jesus Takes Our Sin
  
I hope people will remember in the NT age, the Lord doesn't want us working for Him, but He wants to work THROUGH US. That's the whole purpose of being filled with the Holy Spirit. NO longer I but CHRIST IN ME? This is what Galatians is teaching us...those who can hear. But that verse also beginsgalatians 2:20-21

I HAVE BEEN CRUCIFIED WITH CHRIST, AND IT IT NO LONGER I WHO LIVE, BUT CHRIST LIVES IN ME, AND THE LIFE THAT I NOW LIVE IN THE FLESH, I LIVE BY FAITH IN THE SON OF GOD, WHO,LOVED ME AND DELIVERED HIMSELF UP FOR ME. I DO NOT MAKE VOID THE GRACE OF GOD, FOR IF RIGHTEOUSNESS COMES BY THE LAW, CHRIST DIED IN VAIN.

These verses compliment Romans 6.


Jesus Takes Our Sin
  
Mark_Eaton, yes I have read all those sites you are using to make your case. And again, there are others who disagree. I personally believe at that very moment when sin was placed on the "humanity" of Jesus, who died in our place, it was the humanity of Jesus who cried out.

But like I stated, I don't want to argue about it. That just one more question we can all ask when we see Him.

Also,remember, a verse in Habakuk and one in Isaiah say Gods eyes are to PURE to look upon sin. Another verse says He does not near the prayers of sinners. Now we know Jesus was not a sinner, BUT Jesus still stood in our place..and suffered what we would have. THATS why He was made flesh...



Revolutionary Communist Party
  
Nicole, just because your twisted mind sees things not there, doesn't make it a fact. And as a Christian you are being SINFUL making false accusations based on your own crazy thoughts.

again, I copied and pasted your full post and put my comments between YOUR sentences in bold

SOoooo if I had taken the time to italicize yours, and just left mine in regular print between your words .....do you see racist remarks and joke? Or was it that my answer was bolded. Your problem is with my bolding.. What SICK MIND sees bolded words as RACIST?



I simply called you out for LYING also saying Black Democrats are NOT Black people. Totally NUTS!


Jesus Takes Our Sin
  
13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

15......16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey, whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. 18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.


Jesus Takes Our Sin
  
13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

15......16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey, whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. 18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.


Jesus Takes Our Sin
  
David, that is not what Romans 10:16 says at all....I posted Romans 10:16.

I believe your verse is from Romans 6, and I believe it also is referring to those who have FIRST been crucified with Christ and THEN raised up a NEW CREATURES, and what the NEW CREATURES is called to do....

The old man cannot under any circumstances obey any rules or laws leading to righteousness. Maybe self righteousness, but not the righteousness that comes solely by CHRIST IN YOU, and YOU IN HIM.

Without the two ^ things I just stated above first taking place.....it's only self righteousness. Read again Pauls own testimony in Philippians 3.


Revolutionary Communist Party
  
I also made NO Oreo joke. What joke? There's no joke here. Talk about having snakes in your head.


Jesus Takes Our Sin
  
Mark_Eaton, I don't want to get into an argument with you over this...

But just one question if you would answer please. Do you believe in OSAS? I think ..possibly your thoughts on this may be part of your understanding on this issue.

WE! Those who are saved, have a promise...saying I will NEVERTHELESS leave you or forsake you. That promise can ONLY apply to OSAS folks. Why, because again Jesus paid the price in full for our sin. And when we are tried tested, we MIGHT say...Why have you forsake me, Showing a lack of faith = SIN in Gods eyes. Yet Jesus said it....and it was NOT a moment of weakness or lack of faith which would be sin actually. That sin would have NIXED the whole thing.


Revolutionary Communist Party
  
I have no clue what you are talking about Nicole, a source for what?


Jesus Takes Our Sin
  
Mark_Eaton, Psalms 22 could also say anything that could be repeated at the cross. Just repeating something ? Or don't you think the actual meaning also has significance?

Because Jesus was forsaken ..(God looking away when our sin was placed on Him, ) TOTALLY ENSURES Gods promise to us that He will NEVER leave us or forsake us....Why,? Because Jesus suffering what we would have ensured that.

The whole of the Mercy seat, Holy of Holies, High Priest etc, is a pattern of what and how God dealt with man. No one could enter the Holy of Holies, where God abided , ( a picture) except the HIGH PRIEST, and not without blood...FOR THE SINS OF THE PEOPLE. TODAY all can come boldly to,the throne of Grace.



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