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Criminalize Christian Beliefs
  
Jerry6593:

Likewise, because some leftists commit atrocities doesn't mean all do.


Haz27:

A LIE! I never EXCUSE genocide. Why do you keep twisting my words?? I just point out that those who commit a sin are not fit to sit in judgment of other who also do so. Remember the "speck in the eye" proverb?

Both of my parents were in camps in Germany, so no, I would NOT have criticized opposition to Naziism. STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH!

You are a broken record. "The left is evil. The left is evil. The left is evil." It gets tiresome.

whoever arises as a totalitarian bully... we all should oppose them.

FINALLY something we can agree upon.


Is There Beauty Discrimination
  
Jerry6593:

I'm not judging God. I'm quoting what the Bible ITSELF says - NOBODY can fulfil the law. Who wrote the Bible? Satan, or God?

Any law IMPOSSIBLE for ANYONE to obey is by very definition unrealistic, as there is no real situation where it can be obeyed. How long do you think any business would stay in operation if its inspection criteria rejected 100% of products as unsuitable for sale? Such a business would be unrealistic.

I do not DESPISE God's commandments. STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH. All I say is God's 613 commandments, while perfectly fine, were given to the Jews. The Ten are unnecessary FOR US, because if we obey the Two, we ALREADY avoid murder, theft, adultery, etc.


Criminalize Christian Beliefs
  
Nicole_Lacey:

Deaths of millions by totalitarian atheists, communists, and fascists does not in any way excuse deaths of millions at the hands of Christians. So much for Thou Shalt Not Kill.

Christian Americans negotiated treaties with natives, broke every single one, then forced them to march from their fertile lands across the continent to lands that were totally worthless. So much for Thou Shalt not Steal and Thou Shalt Not Take God's Name In Vain.

We don't have the right to police others, but we DO have the right and duty to police ourselves.


Haz27:

I never said there weren't leftist atrocities, only that Christian hands are not clean, so they are not in a position to self-righteously condemn.


Is There Beauty Discrimination
  
Nicole_Lacey:

What do you mean by 'condemn' if NOT hell?

Most of the messages on these blogs contain one kind of condemnation or other. These are rebuke, as in "you should not be doing this". These are not damnations, as in "may God consign you to eternal torment for what you have done". There is a BIG difference between the two. PLEASE learn to think outside the "everything is entirely black or white" box.


Are There Christians Here
  
john9346:

When Jesus describes the Final Judgment in Matthew 25, he separates righteous from wicked based not on whether they were theologically correct, believed the right doctrine, were members of the right church, or anything else like that. The SOLE criterion was whether they showed compassion to others.

People in both groups did not know why they were being judged so - so the righteous included people ho did NOT believe or know Matthew 25, and the wicked included people who thought they were saved (i.e. believed all the right things), but were not.


The abortion argument relies on "Is killing the unborn murder?". Exodus 21:22-25 suggests it is not.


Criminalize Christian Beliefs
  
Haz27:

*I* am not calling myself a victim, just saying Christians call leftists murderers based on history is the pot calling the kettle black.

That Christians have a moral code makes them MORE subject to scrutiny. You can't fault an amoral heathen for killing someone. But when a Christian does it, HE should know better.


Nicole_Lacey:

Hitler, Stalin, and Mao murdered millions. "Christian" Americans invoking manifest destiny murdered tens of millions of native Americans. Who has more blood on their hands? Christians are supposed to know better.

200 million? Where and when?

In any case, saying "They murdered more millions than we did" won't carry much weight at the Final Judgment.


Is There Beauty Discrimination
  
Nicole_Lacey:

You wrote: If they REFUSE to trust Jesus then it is their choice to go to hell not God's cholice

Nobody mentioned hell. We're not talking about hell, but about discrimination. This is getting VERY far off topic.


Criminalize Christian Beliefs
  
Haz27:

Show me ONE message you have posted on these blogs where you have not used ad-hominem attacks, and pejorative terms like "Atheist", "Lefty", "Totalitarian", etc.

So what that Rome was an occupying force? That didn't stop them from holding their ground. Christians in that day refused to obey Rome's demand that they burn incense to Caesar, and as a result, they were eaten by lions.

We have no BIBLICAL MANDATE to ram our views down everybody else's throat.

You blame the Left for the murder of millions, yet ignore Christianity and "Christian"-based regimes through the past 2 millenia's murder of tens of millions. Mote. Beam. Eye. Pot. Kettle. Black.


Criminalize Christian Beliefs
  
Haz27:

Please show ONE NT verse exhorting Christians to oppose evil actions of their governments. I am not speaking about talking points from the Left. I am speaking about actual scripture.

Speaking of "oppressive PC tyrrany" and "forcing their beliefs on others", the west has been dominated by "oppressive Christian tyrrany" for the past 1700 years, with anyone who had opposing views being suppressed, persecuted, or executed, and other peoples being conquered, converteded by force, and even enslaved. Opposing views have only really been tolerated for the past 50 years or so.

Obamasboy:

Several Republican Christian politicians believe LGBTQ people should be killed.


Is There Beauty Discrimination
  
Nicole_Lacey:

You wrote: They know patients hide their smiles from their families.

Earlier: I have seen patient in pain, but hide it when their family visits to make them feel better.

These two statements directly contradict each other. In one, patients smile and hide their pain from their families. In the other, they hide their smiles from their families?

God expects that of every single person.

If God expects that from everyone, and it's impossible for virtually everyone, God's expectations are unrealistically high. Do YOU expect it from everyone as well, and condemn them all if they don't live up to those expectations?

I didn't say Job sinned, but he DID question God's judgment.


Biblical To Remarry
  
Dianne:

I'm curious, then, under what circumstances you believe Matthew 5:32 would apply. Can you give an example?

(Also, note that this blog has been idle for almost 3 years, and with one exception, nobody who had commented on it comes to this site anymore.)


Criminalize Christian Beliefs
  
ObamasBoy:

Roman taxes funded heathen temples and armies that enslaved other countries to Rome. Did Jesus tell his followers to oppose Rome and its heinous practices? No. He said, "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's".

When early Christians were required to burn incense to Caesar, they didn't protest idolatry, paganism, and religious discrimination in the streets. They just quietly said no, and were fed to lions. Nowhere do we see New Testament Christians calling out and condeming practices among heathen nations that were acceptable to those nations but abhorrent to Christians. They only did so among their own.

It is one thing to believe in certain principles, and another to to force those beliefs on others.


End Of World September 2017
  
Nicole_Lacey:

Did Rosa Parks sue the bus company? No. She just sat down, period.

The kneeling isn't speech (which is unprotected). The REFUSAL TO STAND is the REFUSAL of political speech - which IS protected.

Please quote something SPECIFIC, and specify exactly which message I said it in. A vague "all the last two weeks" or isn't evidence. You must be SPECIFIC.

That you disagree with my points does NOT prove you are right and I am wrong. That I was not born here doesn't make me incapable of learning. I have read much about American law and many other subjects.


Explain The Bible Code Theory
  
Loony1:

There is nothing in the Bible that explicitly says that secret messages are encoded there and can be deciphered by using "bible codes". People have been able to pull many interesting messages out of the Bible, some of which turned out to be true, and some of which didn't. Given enough time, one could probably pull anything one wanted out of the Bible, or even any other text or even a collection of random letters. Look at any of those word puzzles where you look for words horizontally, vertically, or diagonally. You will usually find additional words that aren't intended to be there, but just happen to be there randomly.


Is There Beauty Discrimination
  
Nicole_Lacey:

Do you mean to tell me that patients who whimper in pain, but manage to smile for a bit while family visit, then go back to whimpering in pain again, get denied pain medication?

Job was a rare exception, a pillar of virtue and morality. That is the whole reason Satan attacked him in the first place. You can hardly expect every single person on the planet to live up to his lofty ideals. And even Job eventually broke and argued with God.


End Of World September 2017
  
Nicole_Lacey:

You wasted half your message chiding me rather than answering my question. Your claim that I don't understand the 1st amendment is empty without PROOF.

I lived here more than half my life. I was required to swear to uphold the constitution (so it behooves me to understand it). Natural born citizens aren't, and many DON'T understand it, including many lawmakers who pass flagrantly unconstitutional laws.


ObamasBoy:

1st Amendment prohibits Congress from limiting free speech, but not private individuals. In West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette 1943, Supreme Court ruled loyalty CANNOT be forced. Your boss can fire you for profanity, but NOT for refusing to pledge allegiance.


Are There Christians Here
  
Haz27:

Colorado provides free birth control, which has LOWERED abortion rates. Texas is viciously anti birth control, and abortion rates are HIGHER.

You constantly rage against the left being pro-abortion, yet in the United States, abortion rates are LOWER in progressive, liberal, Democratic, leftist pro-abortion states than in conservative, Republican, anti-abortion pro-life Bible-belt states. Why? It certainly can't be because of "heartless Atheist Left", because if that's the case, it would mean that the "Theist Right" is even MORE heartless. Please provide a reasonable explanation for this.

Please, more facts and left emotionally-laden rhetoric.


Criminalize Christian Beliefs
  
ObamasBoy:

Please cite even a single Bible verse that says Christians are supposed to force their own moral beliefs on others. I learn what Christianity is all about from the Bible, not from 2000 years of cultural cruft that has become encrusted on it and that tends to dominate much of its thinking.

It's also curious that many people who call themselves Christians tilt at many windmills that Jesus himself never spoke about (e.g. transgenderism, LGBT, drugs), yet are silent about things he DID specifically condemn - divorce, greed, etc. A divorced Christian politician opposing transgenderism is the height of hypocrisy.

But I'll wait for steveng to answer the question I posed specifically to him.


End Of World September 2017
  
Nicole_Lacey:

You wrote: WHO SAID YOU DID? I was addressing Kathr NOT you.
PLEASE make sure I was speaking to you before you start fussing at me.

Earlier: Kathr, I can understand StrongAxe NOT understanding the 1st Amendment but you?

You weren't speaking TO me, but ABOUT me. How did I "not understand" the 1st Amendment? Please cite what I said incorrectly.

The Supreme Court determined speech includes acts of expression, whether by voice, print, or action.

Yes they can. The Hiliary Compaign would NOT tolerate their PAID Staffers to say "VOTE FOR TRUMP!"

As I said, they can FORBID certain speech, but not DEMAND certain speech.



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