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How Was Christianity Maintained
  
Its very easy to fall prey to a man made religion, when you follow them blindly.

Both Catholic and Protestant religions are man made. Easy to prove, when all one needs to do is look at their rituals. I see no rituals in the Bible. I only see Christs doctrine, which when followed, brings a man closer to God as Christ promised.

Though its Kinda hard to follow, when your doctrines teach you erroneously, following Christ is against the teachings of Paul.


How Was Christianity Maintained
  
How was Christianity maintained?
If our body is our temple, logic dictates it has been maintained in the individual believer. Christ lives in the believer, not in some building we see as Holy.

In the Bible, folks met in their homes and I suspect that is how it has been maintained ever since.


Mix Of Grace Law Or
  
Question:
Why does Paul seemingly teach against Works for salvation in one place, and then promote Works for Salvation in other places?
Answer:
Because Paul taught both Jew and Gentile believer. When he teaches against Works, he is referring to the Law of Moses. When he promotes Works, he is referring to the Law of Christ. Proof?

(Acts 21:20-21) And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe, and they are all zealous of the law: And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs.


Can I Remarry My Husband
  
StrongAxe
Thank you for the advice.


Christ In You
  
The difference?
Though most doctrines teach against it, you are not Born of God the instant you become a follower of Jesus Christ. You in Christ, is a follower who has yet to be born of God. Christ is in you, is a follower who has been Born of God, and God lives in them.


Mix Of Grace Law Or
  
David, the answer is clearly in your verse posted. The key word is OBEY. ---kathr4453

Kathryn
Then you agree, obedience to the Law of Christ is a requirement of salvation?

To not obey truth, and instead obey unrighteousness, is to mix works of law with grace. -Haz27

Haz
When Paul teaches against Works, Many folks do not take into account that Paul was referring to the Law of Moses, not the Law of Christ.

Pauls Anti-Law statements were directed at the Jews, those who were under the Law of Moses, not the Gentile believers, those who were never under the Law. (Acts 21:20-21)


Mix Of Grace Law Or
  
(Romans 2, 5-10) But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God....Who will render to every man according to his deeds... To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life...But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile, But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good...

Kathryn and Haz
How does this fit into your, NO works salvation doctrine?


Explain Matthew 5:16
  
The good works in (Matthew 5) is in reference to those God has blessed through you, because you did as you were commanded by his Holy Spirit. Those commands usually come in the form or rendering aid to a specific individual.

Instead of you taking a bow for the aid, Let that person know that it was God who commanded you, and you were simply following his commandment. That way God gets the Glory and you grow more in his Grace. (John 14:21).


Mix Of Grace Law Or
  
Haz
Because of a few verses from Pauls epistles, many folks are confused about Grace, Faith and Works. All three are part of the Salvation Equation. Most folks know about Grace and Faith, but their doctrines stay far away from the Bibles teaching that both come through Works.

How can Works, Faith and Grace be taught as one? According to the foundation set by Jesus Christ, on how we recieve Gods Grace, in (John 14:21), Grace is received by Works.

And in (James 2), We see Faith without Works is worthless. Now if we are saved by Grace through Faith, and Faith without Works is worthless, how can you believe Works is not part of the Salvation Equation?

Salvation is the result of Grace, received by Faith through Works.


Can I Remarry My Husband
  
StrongAxe
Be informed, there is one other person on CN who posts as David, though his posts are being credited along with mine. The David who you are talking with is not me.


Can I Remarry My Husband
  
"Understand that you all have already gone against the scripure." How can you make such a statement without knowing if indeed she divorced him. if she didn't divorce him then she didn't do anything wrong!


Without Law No Sin
  
DAVID. The gospel that both Jesus and Paul preached are consistent with each other.---Haz27 on 12/28/17

Haz
Didnt say they werent, only most choose to preach Pauls epistles and not from Christs Gospel. The reason is, Paul was merely human and they find it easy to twist his words, twisted to their own destruction.

Remember the warning given in (2 Peter 3:15-17) to folks who made the same mistake as you do now.


Without Law No Sin
  
Haz
Most folks believe in God the way you do. I was raised in it too. What the no works doctrine brought me, was unbelief. Today, I do believe in God. My belief did not come by way of reading the Bible, or by way of a preacher. I became a believer through a relationship with God.

I tried doing what Jesus taught in the Gospel, though not knowing the Gospel of Christ, and God responded to what I was doing.
How did I know the Gospel?
Though I didnt understand at the time, I was being commanded by the Holy Spirit. After a few months I did start reading the Bible, and I discovered everything I was being taught, was written in the Gospel of Christ.

Have you ever noticed, no one in the Bible teaches from the Gospel of Paul?


Without Law No Sin
  
DAVID. Eph 2:8 by GRACE are ye saved THROUGH FAITH, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God.---Haz27 on 12/26/17

Haz
True, but didnt James say Faith without deeds has no value? If your saved by Grace, through faith, doesnt the faith by which we are saved have value?

How do you reconcile what James taught about faith in (James 2) with your no works doctrine?


Without Law No Sin
  
Scripture confirms scripture, hence we see the CONSISTENT message to believe on JC. And we cannot mix works of the law with grace (Rom 11:6) as thats unbelief.---Haz27 on 12/25/17

Haz
Your doctrine is founded upon, your perception, of Pauls teaching on Grace. Paul says repeatedly, his doctrine is founded on the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

If your doctrine of Grace is founded on the Gospel of Christ, can you show me where Jesus taught Grace, the one received without works?

Though Jesus never used the word Grace, he taught how its received in (John 14:21). Isnt it Interesting, how folks who claim to teach the Gospel of Christ, found their teaching on the word GRACE, when its a word, Jesus never used in his Gospel?


Without Law No Sin
  
You need to find a way to reconcile all of these different perspectives, instead of insisting that one of them is right and explaining another one away by saying it means the opposite of what it says.---StrongAxe on 12/24/17

StrongAxe
This is the same point I try to make folks see. They create doctrines based on a few verses which can be molded to say what they want them to say, but ignore the majority of scripture which oppose their doctrine.

I try to show those which oppose these doctrines, in the hope they will see they can not be reconciled.


Without Law No Sin
  
AXE. I quoted you directly, saying the criteria determining salvation is SOLELY based on deeds, NOT on faith.-Haz27

(Revelation 20:13) And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works

Haz
According to the verse above, according to the eye witness testimony of John, is StrongAxe right or wrong?


Without Law No Sin
  
(Luke 6:47-48) Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.

Haz
According to the parable above, do we do anything to build our house on a Rock? Jesus repeats the same teaching in the verse below, though it is not veiled in parable.

(John 14:21) 21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.


Without Law No Sin
  
These sins do not apply to Christians, as we're not under law (Rom 8:2, Rom 10:4, Gal 5:18), hence not under it's jurisdiction (Rom 3:19) therefore cannot be charged with it's transgression.---Haz27 on 12/19/17

Haz
This is what I am confused about. Sin is the transgression of the Law, but folks who believe they are not under the Law, still sin. How can they sin, when they are not under the Law, when you must break the Law in order to sin?



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