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Nicole_Lacey:

I'm not talking about individual Republicans, who make decisions for themselves. I'm talking about Republican politicians that make policies on behalf of all of us that affect all of us. Just look at the current budget that is being rammed through right now - one that Senators were being forced to vote on without even being given a chance to read it (and when asked for time to do so, were flatly refused).

You made Judge and Decider?

Nobody, but Jesus said "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you". If Haz27 wants others to answer that question, he/she needs to be willing to answer the question himself/herself FIRST.


Judge Roy Moore Apologies
  
Nicole_Lacey:

I have nowhere said any abuse is OK. However, the blog limits here mean one has to choose carefully what to talk about, and how much to say. There is already too much to be able to comment on everything, without spending extra time and space to condemn everybody everywhre who has done anything.

It's sad that you had to grow up in a culture that was either so paranoid (or so depraved) that it placed so little trust in even close family members. In the wake of the Moore accusations, I have heard similar stories about Alabama. There were some old women who were interviewed, who said that when they were young, such behavior was commonplace and accepted as normal, and women just had to put up with it.


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Nicole_Lacey:

The problem is Republican politicians do everything they can to force babies to be born, then force OTHERS to care for them - by making abortion (and even birth control!) difficult, but also cutting off social safety nets like health care and nutritional assistance to those same children once they are born.

A few states have even gone so far as to pass laws requiring miscarriages to have funerals - solely to punish women who have abortions, but that's only implied - the actual wording primarily penalizes women who have NATURAL miscarriages - i.e. after the pain of losing a child, the government then slaps an additional financial burden on you.


Judge Roy Moore Apologies
  
Nicole_Lacey:

No, she didn't lie. He signed her book. She wrote a comment under it to annotate who he was, that's all.

MANY women said Moore was inappropriate, and one mall banned him years ago for his notoriety doing that, and one security guard testified to that. What part of "in the testimony of two or three witnesses all truth shall be established" do you not agree with?

No, Samuelbb7 isn't God, Judge, and Jury, but neither are you. In the absence of any of those making judgments, we are forced to weigh the ample evidence ourselves.


Jerry6593:

Which women did Hillary put down, exactly? Franken admitted his actions and is stepping down. Moore is doing neither.


Is Senator Warren A Native
  
Jerry6593:

Could you please discuss without pejoratives like "Demoncrats"?

Republicans also divide by race and religion. Several white men shoot up crowds of dozens of people in Nevada and Texas, and each time, it's "too soon" to talk about gun control, but one foreign Muslim mows down only eight people in New York, and the president screamed "SOMETHING MUST BE DONE!". It seems as if mass murder is less severe if the murderer is a white "Christian".


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Samuelbb7:

I have been saying this for years. Republicans follow pro-life Christian principles only during the first three trimsters (i.e. every fetus is sacred), but after it's born, they follow Darwinian principles (i.e. it's sink or swim - if you can't afford to live on your own, you deserve to starve to death, because being poor is a result of your own poor life choices.)


Nicole_Lacey:

You wrote: So now he CAN answer the question.

As soon as Haz27, as the first one tho asked it, answers it first.


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Nicole_Lacey:

The reason NurseRoberts asks Haz27 to answer that question is because Haz27 first asked that question repeatedly. Haz27 can't reasonably expect others to answer the question without first answering the question himself/herself.

He is doing the same thing Jesus did when the Pharisees asked him by what authority he did his healing - he would only answer if they answered first (because if they wouldn't answer his question, they had no reason to expect him to answer theirs).


Judge Roy Moore Apologies
  
No, she didn't forge evidence. Fox news twisted something she said and THEY ERRONEOUSLY SAID she forged evidence (then "corrected" their error).

He had signed her yearbook, and she wrote a note underneath.

From Huffington Post:
Fox News updated a story that erroneously claimed one of Roy Moore's accusers had "forged" evidence she'd presented to bolster her claim against him. ...

Fox's headline has now been updated to "Roy Moore accuser admits she wrote part of yearbook inscription attributed to Alabama Senate candidate," although the URL of the story still contains the previous language.


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Nicole_Lacey:

This is IRRELEVANT. 2000 years ago, ALL marriages were common law - determined by agreements by parties, not registered by governments, not regulated by churches.

Today, in the U.S., ALL marriages MUST be registered by the government. The ONLY criterion is if they file proper forms and say proper words. It doesn't matter if they conform to ANY religion's prerequisites.

For the secnod time: google: cathars genocide. At the bottom of the article are plentiful footnotes to where the information came from.


Haz27:

Don't SAY Goulag=Google and claim many witnesses. ACTUALLY SHOW some witnesses. I couldn't find any. If you don't like Google, use other search engines. You'll get the same results.


Finish Here December 2017
  
Nicole_Lacey:

And you aren't God to claim that you did.

Plus, stating they ARE inspired doesn't mean they ARE inspired.

Protestants and Catholic disagree. Neither is automatically right.

Not inspired doesn't mean not true (else toss out most books in the library) - just not guaranteed 100% true. Celebrating an event (that may or may not have happened) is totally different from basing a fundamental theological belief on something (that may or may not be true).


Haz27:

I don't deny that scripture must be spiritually discerned, but one can take "spiritually" too far.Some "spiritually" teach Jesus was just a spirit. John calls them antichrist for denying Jesus came in the flesh.


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Nicole_Lacey:

Legal marriage has nothing to do with Catholic law or traditions. The RCC can deny marriage to anyone it wants (e.g. non-Catholics, divorcees). Consummation is not required for marriage in any U.S. state.

Even if those massacres HAD NOT happened, Shoebat is evil to ADMIRE them.

Google: waldensians, cathars.

Innocent III used the Cathar Crusade to eliminate Catharism. In 1209, Crusaders besieged Bziers, and slaughtered the entire town and burned it to the ground. Amalric is reported to have said (of Catholics and Cathars) "Kill them all! God will know his own."


Haz27:

Goulag? REALLY? That was a government agency under Lenin, NOT a search engine! PROVE it's related to Google!


Finish Here December 2017
  
Haz27:

Jesus talked about feeding the actually hungry and clothing the naked, not the spiritually hungry and naked (and Matthew 10:42 and 9:41 refer to actual water, not spiritual water)

By "spiritualizing" these verses, people avoid Jesus's clear instuctions and say, "at least we gave them the gospel". This is exactly what the Pharisees did by exempting "korban" monies from "honor your father and mother" - their interpretations rendered God's law void.

When Jesus wanted to spiritualize something, he said so (e.g. Matthew 5:6).

Matthew 7:22 refers to those who would come to Jesus boasting of many spiritual works, yet totally missing the message.


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Monk_Brendan:

Google: "Theodore Shoebat"

A "Christian militant" who believes in executing LGBT, Christians who don't believe in killing LGBT, Muslims, Hillary, Trump (once waved a rainbow flag at a rally), abortionists, woman who have abortions, Chick-fil-A employees (they softened their anti-LGBT stance), etc.

He admires the medieval Catholic church's genocide of Cathars, Waldenseians and other heretics. He wants India invaded and Hindus forced to convert to Christianity. He believes women should be banned from voting and holding office.

He makes Westboro Baptist Church seem moderate.

His father Walid Shoebat, a former PLO terrorist who converted to Christianity, is moderate in comparison.


Is Senator Warren A Native
  
ObamasBoy:

"We regret that the President's use of the name Pocahontas as a slur to insult a political adversary is overshadowing the true purpose of today's White House ceremony," stated NCAI President Jefferson Keel, a decorated U.S. Army officer and Vietnam War combat veteran.

I was just repeating what the Native American veterans at the ceremony said themselves. If I'm a liar, then so are they. Take it up with them. However, I think THEY're in a better position to know what they said than YOU are.

Therefore, your accusations of lying are, themselves, false accusations. Please remove the lies from your own eyes, which will better let you see the lies in others' eyes.


Is Senator Warren A Native
  
ObamasBoy:

Are you calling the very veterans whom Trump spoke to liars? Because THEY themselves saw the comment as an insult. If you don't like their outrage, blame THEM.

But ignoring all that - why did Trump even need to mention Warran at all at an award ceremony honoring Native American veterans? There was no reasonable purpose for such a comment. The ONLY purpose that makes sense is to bring up race. Holding the ceremony under a portrait of "Indian Killer" Jackson even furthered the insult.


Nicole_Lacey:

You wrote: She has to prove it since she TOOK a job from a REAL NATIVE AMERICAN.

How so? She was elected based on votes cast by constituents, not affirmative action.


Is Senator Warren A Native
  
Nicole_Lacey:

You wrote: I did and I am at least 5% Native American. 5% more than Elizabeth Warren.

You can't KNOW that without KNOWING her DNA profile.

Why won't Warren take the FREE DNA test given to her?

Who gives free DNA tests?


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Mark_Eaton:

I said JESUS didn't say anything. Genesis was in the Old Testament.

Jesus didn't say anything about the internet or cars or electricity anywhere. Does that make those wrong too?


Nicole_Lacey:

In the wedding at Cana, I see no mention of cake.

Not all couples consummate (especially elderly ones). And yes, I know what it means.

Not all wedding cakes have the word "wedding" on them.


Finish Here December 2017
  
Haz27:

Yes, Shoebat TESTED the bakers. He did not HONESTLY ask for a cake to be baked, as the wedding participants did. He went there dishonestly, DELIBERATELY asking them to bake a cake, FULLY EXPECTING that they wouldn't, SOLELY so he could point an accusing finger.

He also believes LGBT people should be EXECUTED - hardly a Christian attitude. In the ONE case in the New Testament where Jesus was asked to officiate at in a capital execution (for adultery), he REFUSED to do so.

In almost EVERY SINGLE MESSAGE, you mock the fact that I'm on the left, rather than ACTUALLY dealing with my arguments.


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Haz27:

Theodore Shoebat?! He's an extreme right pseudo-Christian wacko (and I don't throw that term around lightly). Christians are supposed to "love your enemies", but he actively wants LGBT people to be EXECUTED. The Golden Rule? Does HE want people who hate him to execute HIM? Not likely.

He did not go to LGBT bakers because he needed a cake. He went there SPECIFICALLY to provoke them into NOT baking a cake - just so he could whine about how unfair they were.

This is in contrast with LGBT couples who actually needed a cake but were forced to go elsewhere (and in at least one case, the contract was initially accepted, but only cancelled later when it was too late for them to make alternative arrangements).


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Nicole_Lacey:

New Black Panthers stopping people in once city from voting in one election was bad. Republican politicians preventing people in may states from voting (by disingenuous voter registration laws) or from having their votes count (by gerrymandering) in all elections is much worse.

(It's a bit like what Stalin said - if you kill one person, it's murder. If you kill a million people, it's a statistic.)

Because both of the above are legal, even if they are reversed by courts, nobody would be prosecuted, even though the ultimate effects are much worse.

As for democratic AG refusing to prosecute a crime, how about Trump, who pardoned Joe Arpaio for an ALREADY PROSECUTED contempt of federal court charge?



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