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Finish It Here August 2018
  
SAMUEL. As you can see in the recent post from AXE, again he rejects the gospel of God's kingdom.

For AXE, the thief on the cross who called Jesus "Lord" did not enter God's kingdom because he did not do any good deeds to the physically needy.

For AXE the gospel message we see throughout the Bible is redundant as deeds is what gets us to heaven.

Maybe AXE thinks Jesus was lying when he commanded we believe in him (John 3:16).

Beware the leaven (heretical doctrine) of AXE.


Finish It Here August 2018
  
SAMUEL & KATHR. Read my posts again as you seem to have misunderstood them.

SAMUEL. It was AXE who is claiming through Matt 25 that non-Christians can enter God's kingdom just by doing some good physical deeds to the physically needy.

KATHR. I agree Matt 25 refers to the great white throne judgement.
If you read my posts again you'll see that the topic was about how the false doctrine of AXE claims that good physical deeds allows those who reject salvation through JC to still enter God's kingdom.
I opposed this false doctrine of AXE.


Finish It Here August 2018
  
AXE. Yet again you deflect, and even obfuscate, to avoid having to deal with your contradiction of the gospel. Im not surprised.

You even went further to liken your contradiction of the gospel as a //New truth//...LOL.

The absurd gospel of AXE is that anti-Christ Atheists, Muslims, Buddhists, etc can all enter the kingdom of God, without Jesus Christ, simply based on some good deeds of helping the physically needy.
A //New Truth// from Axe being, just do some physical good deeds, without faith in JC = entry into the kingdom of God...LOL.

Did you get this heretical doctrine from some cult, or is it your own creation?


Finish It Here August 2018
  
AXE. Your constant deflections to avoid answering questions on your heretical contradiction of God's gospel, has gone on for almost one year.

FYI, parables are MADE UP stories used to illustrate a spiritual message.
Thus Jesus wasn't actually the needy person, nor were the people being judged actual sheep or goats, and nor was it describing a future where actual Christians were ignorant of helping a needy Jesus.
Instead it uses these characterizations to highlight the criteria that separates saved from the unsaved.

I've shown how Matt 25 supports the gospel.

But you argue that Matt 25 contradicts the gospel, yet you stubbornly refuse to explain why.


Finish It Here August 2018
  
AXE. Again you deflect.

What Matt 25 refers to is works that shows our faith (James 2:14-18).

Christians preach gospel to SPIRITUALLY needy (the lost), as we were saved by faith and we also want lost souls to be saved.

But Atheists, etc who may do good physical deeds, do not have this faith, nor do they share the gospel to the spiritually needy/lost.

To BELIEVE ON JESUS is gospel, John 3:16, It's the will of God, John 6:40. It's the works we do, John 6:29. Unbelief in Jesus is the sin the world is convicted of, John 16:9.

My understanding of Matt 25 does not contradict these scriptures.

Your Matt 25 doctrine does contradict these scriptures, which is why you always deflect.


Finish It Here August 2018
  
AXE. Again you contradict gospel.

The gospel is BELIEVE ON JESUS, John 3:16.
The will of God is we BELIEVE ON JESUS, John 6:40.
Our works are BELIEVE ON JESUS, John 6:29.

The sin the world is convicted of is UNBELIEF IN JESUS, John 16:9.

But YOU contradict this, and you've long been deflecting to avoid being confronted about this.

Matt 25 is a parable, which those who are spiritually blind/deaf (Matt 13:13-15), like you, will not understand. Jesus was not actually the hungry, thirsty, naked, stranger. Instead it's a message related in a parable.

The hungry. thirsty, naked, strangers, etc refers to the lost (as scripture shows), hence we see the sheep preached the gospel to the lost.



Finish It Here August 2018
  
AXE. I'm still waiting for you to explain your false doctrine that claims that anti-Christ Muslims, Atheists, Buddhists, etc gain entry into God's kingdom simply based on doing some good physical deeds for the physically needy?

Perhaps you can also explain why you have been persistently deflecting (over many months) to avoid answering this question.

Obviously you fear being confronted and exposed over your contradiction of the gospel of God's kingdom, but you can't keep deflecting for much longer.



Finish It Here August 2018
  
AXE. Because Jesus was speaking in parables, that's why. And it's obvious really. But then your spiritual ears and eyes are closed anyway, hence why you fail to understand God's word (Matt 13:13-15, 1Cor 2:14).

Now back to the question you keep on avoiding. Your heretical doctrine clearly contradicts the gospel.

For almost the past year I've been trying to get you to justify your doctrine that contradicts the gospel, and you constantly deflect to avoid doing so.

Maybe it's time you stop running away. You need to justify your false doctrine.


Finish It Here August 2018
  
NICOLE. Sadly, AXE follows a heretical doctrine that most here have rightly opposed him on.

As you noticed, AXE preaches his hereacy that Atheists, anti-Christ Muslims, Buddhists, etc gain entry into the kingdom of God, simply because of some good deeds they did to the physically needy (his distortion of Matt 25).

When AXE is confronted about how his heretical teaching contradicts the gospel, he resorts to his trademark tactics of deflection, obfuscation, etc.

AXE refuses to address the issue of his contradiction of the gospel, and he is too scared to ever do so.


Pray For Our Nation
  
AXE. I remind you that it was Jesus himself who described (Matt 13:13-15) how his parables would only seem as parables to those (like you) with their spiritual ears, eyes closed.
Only those with spiritual ears ,eyes open will receive understanding of parables from Christ.

You have consistently avoided all my efforts to get you to explain away how your false doctrine on Matt 25 contradicts the gospel.

BTW, A correction of your lie. I called the Left that you support "Communists", "Baby killers".
I also said several times in the past that whilst you claim to oppose killing unborn babies (abortion), your posts here consistently use the baby killing Left's arguments when justifying abortion.


Pray For Our Nation
  
AXE. Those believers who died before Jesus did know him.

John 5:46-47
For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me.

John 12:44,45
Then Jesus cried out and said, "He who believes in Me, BELIEVES NOT IN ME BUT IN HIM WHO SENT ME.

John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Isa 9:6
For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given, And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, MIGHTY GOD, EVERLASTING FATHER, Prince of Peace.

It's time you admit that your error doctrine on Matt 25, Matt 7, etc contradicts God's gospel.


Pray For Our Nation
  
AXE. You distort scripture.

Scripture gives context to understand the labels it uses. But you discard this, looking instead to the physical for context.

In scripture we see the lost (those without the garment of salvation, Isa 61:10) are spiritually naked in Matt25. We must not be naked (2Cor 5:3).

We see the lost, who are strangers from covenant of promise, and household of God (Eph 2:12,19), are the strangers Matt 25 refers to.

We see the lost are the hungry/thirsty as they lack JC our spiritual food/drink (1Cor 10:3,4).

Your twisted interpretations implies that belief in JC is not necessary as really all it takes is some good physical deeds to the physically needy and you get to enter God's kingdom.


Pray For Our Nation
  
AXE. You say words of JC are "sophistry"?
See Col 1:26, 1Cor 2:14. Prov 25:2, Eph 3:5.

Jesus said, when asked why the parables (Matt 13:13-17):
Because it has been given to you to know the MYSTERIES of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given....Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do NOT SEE, and hearing they do NOT HEAR,....
But blessed are your eyes for they see, and your ears for they hear, for assuredly, I say to you that many prophets and righteous men desired to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it
.

AXE. Your false doctrine contradicts gospel.
Your "sophistry" angle contradicts Jesus words above.


Pray For Our Nation
  
AXE. Your dishonest claim that I've supposedly not given you my interpretation of the scriptures we're discussing, is exposed for all to see in my Blog Replies which records my recent posts.

Matthew 25, Mark 10, Matt 7 were all explained to you in my recent posts, as they also were months ago when we debated them then.

I suggest you at least apologize to Melody for lying to her.

More importantly though is the false doctrine you preach claiming that JC is not needed to enter God's kingdom because you claim the alternative path to salvation, for those who reject JC as the messiah, is doing good physical deeds for the physically needy.





Pray For Our Nation
  
AXE. You clearly reject the gospel that only through JC can we be saved (John 14:6).

Your false doctrine that Atheists, Muslims, etc who reject JC, still enter God's kingdom simply because they helped some physically needy person, contradicts the gospel.

Jesus spoke in parables and only those with their spiritual ears and eyes open will understand them. Seems you might be like those Jesus spoke of in Matt 13:13-15.

The cup of water in Matt 10:42 is word of God, Prov 25:25. And the reward is JC, Isa 58:8.

Matt 7:16-23 you also fail to understand. Verse 21 gives the qualifier of DOING THE WILL OF GOD. Jesus tells of the will of God in John 6:40.

Thus we see your false doctrine contradicts God's word.


Pray For Our Nation
  
AXE. Your false doctrine that antiChrist Atheists, Muslims, etc inherit Gods kingdom just because they met some minimum standard of helping the physically needy, proves your ignorance of the gospel.

Like I said, your spiritual ears and eyes are closed, hence you lack spiritual understanding, Matt 13:13-15.

Your post indicates that you clearly dont even know what the will of God is.

Nor do you understand who Jesus referred to as the FIRST versus the LAST.


Is Donald Trump The Anti-Christ
  
SAMUEL. Hitler & Stalin were SOCIALIST Left. Socialism is renowned for genocide, totalitarianism, poverty, etc, even now.

Mixed economies do far better for ALL.

Australia is similar USA. Capable people take advantage of Left's welfare dependency lure.
I used to live in one of those neighborhoods where some government housing was sold to private buyers in the hope we could bring a positive influence to these capable welfare dependents with poor life attitudes.

Sadly the totalitarian Left today dominate megaphones of society, bullying opponents & attacking our rights. Recently saw this with 2 popular Canadian speakers being targeted here & in New Zealand by the Fascist Left terrorists and authorities.


Is Donald Trump The Anti-Christ
  
KATHR. Avoid Left's propaganda lies that drives your hate.

AXE. We've often discussed Matt 25:31-46.

Your physical interpretation offers no differentiation between Christians versus Atheists, Muslims, etc who also help needy.

But when scripture is SPIRITUALLY discerned (1Cor 2:14, Matt 13:13-15), then we see JC refers to the lost, SPIRITUALLY naked (lacking garment of salvation Isa 61:10), SPIRITUALLY hungry/thirsty (lacking JC our spiritual food/drink, 1Cor 10:3,4), SPIRITUAL strangers from covenants of promise, household of God, Eph 2:12,19), SPIRITUALLY sick (Isa 1:5,6, Isa 6:10).

We preach gospel to the SPIRITUALLY needy.
When they SEEK FIRST God's kingdom, then their physical needs also met, Matt6:33.


Is Donald Trump The Anti-Christ
  
SAMUEL. As it's the Socialist Left that is already reducing the population through its political agenda for ever easier abortions, and also it's lure of welfare dependency that exacerbates the poverty, crime, neglect, etc that harms so many, then why your selective outrage over Trump?

Consider the Socialist Left's record of genocide, poverty, starvation, etc and compare that to the Capitalist and freedom centered mixed economy's success at improving the lives of society overall.

You need to open your eyes to reality Samuel.



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