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Ark Of The Covenant
  
"Visit any Shrine, and you will know the Truth."

I have visited the Abraham Lincoln Memorial. Does that count? How about Protestant shrines of Martin Luther (the Reformer)? Does that count?

"But not anyone I know, yet all Catholics that I know, and let me say I know hundreds of them, they all get on their knees and worship Mary and the saints"

It's only worship to you.

In IC.XC.,


Is Bible Only Biblical
  
The Bible is a book of the Church. Since the Holy Bible is part of Holy Tradition, it is wrong to read Scriptures in isolation to the Living Tradition of the Church. Every part of Holy Tradition (i.e., the writings of the Ancient Fathers, the dogmatic confessions of the first seven Holy Ecumenical Synods, ancient Baptismal/Eucharistic ceremonial texts, Holy Icons, etc) needs to be involved when interpreting Scriptures because Scriptures are part of this Tradition.

We read Holy Scripture, not as isolated individuals, but as members of the Church. How has the Church interpreted Scriptures since the 1st-10th centuries? How has the Scriptures been used in ancient Church worship services? Seek the Truth, and ye shall find it.

In IC.XC.,


Scared To Teach The Bible
  
Come on, Cluny, ALL scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

What part of "ALL" do you not understand?
---Steveng on 4/22/11

Who here have denied this, Steveng? Not I nor Cluny.

In IC.XC.,


2nd Commandment In Bible
  
Mark V,

Was your Protestant Father a Idolater?:

"I have myself heard those who oppose pictures, read from my German Bible. . . . But this contains many pictures of God, of the angels, of men, and of animals [...] We therefore kindly beg these fanaties to permit us also to paint these pictures on the wall that they may be remembered and better understood, inasmuch as they can harm as little on the walls as in books. Would to God that I could persuade those who can afford it to paint the whole Bible on their houses, inside and outside, so that all might see , this would indeed be a Christian work. For I am convinced that it is God's will...." (Martin Luther, quoted in Ohl pp. 88-89)

In IC.XC.,


2nd Commandment In Bible
  
#3

Jewish liturgical services involves Holy Icons and Statues ((Ex. 25:18, Ex. 26:1,37, 1st Kings 6:23,29,32, 1st Kings 7:29,36). Holy Icons enriched the Tabernacle and then later in the Temple. The Second Commandment forbid making a image AND worshiping it (the LXX makes this clear), not a condemnation of all images (otherwise God contradicted himself and purposely condemn Israel).

You cry "Idolatry" to any one who have any image or statue, but Scriptures does not. You cry "Sola Scriptura", but Scriptures does not.

You are too caught up in condemning RCC in any little detail that you can't even see that you follow traditions of men, and are misinterpreting Scriptures.

In IC.XC.,


Roman Catholic And Orthodox
  
Rob

Do you want me to recommend books written about the history/doctrine of the Ancient Church (1st-8th centuries)? Books written about the Great Schism in particular (your original question, which can not be fully explain in 150 words)?

In IC.XC.,


Idolatry To Wear A Cross
  
#2

We find evidence that Old Testament Jewish liturgical services involves Holy Icons and Statues ((Ex. 25:18, Ex. 26:1,37, 1st Kings 6:23,29,32, 1st Kings 7:29,36). Holy Icons enriched the Tabernacle and then later in the Temple. The Second Commandment forbid making a image AND worshiping it (the LXX makes this clear), not a condemnation of all images.

The image of the cross is a stumbling block to the Jews and foolishness to the Gentiles (1 Cor 1:23). We preach Christ-crucified (ibid)

In IC.XC.,


Was Mary Sinless At Birth
  
5) Both written and oral Apostolic Traditions was transmitted to the Bishops, Presbyters, & Deacons (John 21:25+Acts 20:35, 2 Thes 2:15, 1Cor.11:1, 1 Thess. 2:13, etc.

6) The acceptance of extra biblical traditions can be in Galatians 3:19 and Acts 7:53, where it is pointed out repeatedly that the Law given to Moses was not directly given to him by God, but it was given to him by God through His angels. Such a doctrine can not be found in the Old Testament, but it is found in the Jewish Talmud.

Neither Jesus Christ nor the Apostles believed only the written accounts contains God's word. Mima and Samuel decided that they will follow traditions of men above Scriptures. What about you?

In IC.XC.,


Was Mary Sinless At Birth
  
"the RCC call Mary Holy...." (Mima)

The Bible, Eastern Christians, and some Protestants do too!

And besides, we (Christians) are called "Holy" as well (1 Peter 2:9). You do realize that in the Old Testament, many objects and places were deemed "Holy" by God, right? Forgot those Scriptures, eh?

So what is wrong with calling the Virgin Mary "The Holy Theotokos" (as used in Orthodoxy, the Non-Chalcedonian Churches, etc)?

The only one is having a huge problem with the Theotokos is you. Your hatred towards the RCC has led you to 100% belittle her, even to the point of denying her Motherhood to Jesus Christ, despite what Scriptures teach!

In IC.XC.,


Is Infant Baptism Biblical
  
"tradition....greater authority then scripture? " (Samuel)

You are not understanding Orthodoxy. Scriptures is part of Tradition. The written Scriptures came out of Holy Tradition. Oral teachings of the Patriarchs and Apostles came first, and Scriptures later. In Orthodoxy, there is just Holy Tradition, which includes: Holy Scriptures, the Fathers, the Divine Liturgies, the Holy Ecumenical Synods and certain Local Councils, Holy Icons, and the Living Voice of the Church.

By the way, Baptism by Immersion was not abandoned. You got your history upside down, minister Samuel. I'll suggest that you read the books I posted below, written by Protestant scholars. Are you a well known Scholar/Historian?

In IC.XC.,


Jesus Shed Blood Once
  
"There is no other sacrifice except the one offered by Jesus on Calvary. That sacrifice cannot be repeated. The Mass, therefore, is not a repetition, it is a re-presentation of that sacrifice.

Because Christ was a unique human being, the sacrifice He offered on the cross once and for all is a unique act. He was a human being, so it was an act that took place in history and is therefore past. He is God, who is outside of time: past and future are always present to Him. This means that His death and resurrection are eternal acts that can be made present by the power of the Spirit"

Understanding the Mass Part I - A Unique Sacrifice Made Present by: Marcellino D'Ambrosio

In IC.XC.,



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