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Forgive Their Sins
Scripture DID NOT come down from the Apostles TO the Church Fathers to us today.....
---kathr4453 on 3/21/18

I understand what you mean here, but what you said in this sentence is EXACTLY what happened. The Apostles wrote, it was conserved, preserved, copied, by the Church Fathers and the Church until it could be distributed to the public at the end of the Middle Ages. The Scriptures did not come directly to you from the Apostles.

What you are meaning is exactly my argument against Traditions. Traditions, which were supposedly passed unchanged from the Apostles, to the Bishops, from man to man down thru history, are to me unacceptable because they are not Scriptural and have us assuming about them.

How Old Are You
What's wrong with answering this question?
---Steveng on 3/19/18

Good point.

I am 57 years old.

I grew up in the Midwest, but I live in the South now. I met the Lord when I was 11 but ran away from Him until I was 41. I got addicted to drugs during those 30 years and I am still surrendering daily on that issue.

When I came back to the Lord, I was a Pentecostal. I have since become Methodist and my favorite theologian is C. Baxter Kruger. My theology is Orthodox, but my worship is Evangelical/Pentecostal.

I study the Bible daily, read, pray, and meditate daily, and continue to work a 12 Step program. My desire is to know Jesus, The Father, and the HS better.

Forgive Their Sins

I see the John 20 passage as speaking to sins committed against the hearer by someone else. In the same way, Matt. 18 talks about forgiving sins committed by a brother or a close friend.

However, use of the confessional is a very good sacrament. Confessing our sins, weaknesses, unforgiveness, and lack of faithfulness to another believer is great for our christian walk and great for our mental and emotional health.

Shaming The Men
Women and girls are made powerful. Men and boys powerless.
---Nicole_Lacey on 3/17/18

This has been happening for over 20 years now.

It started sometime in the late 80's early 90's when the Disney movie The Little Mermaid came out. I noticed it because my step-daughter asked about the seeming independence and rebellion of the main character. All worked out in the movie, but what the movie showed to my step-daughter was that it was okay to do what you want, regardless of what your father thinks.

I feel it caused my step-daughter to see herself as able to make decisions for herself without the need to consult anyone, including Our Father in Heaven. This lead her down a terrible path.

My Second Amendment
Why are so many young people in America in so much despair? America, the Christian nation?
---kathr4453 on 3/8/18

Simple really. Too much wealth.

Look at the family tree of any excessively wealthy family and if the children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren are not working or not actively involved in something worthwhile, then these children become lethargic, apathetic, underachieving, and despondent.

These are the same symptoms in the young people of the USA.

We have taken the spunk out of our children and spoiled them right into this problem.

My Second Amendment
if shooters had adequate access to counselling . Unfortunately, funding for such counselling isn't available..
---StrongAxe on 3/8/18

Really? As a Christian brother you think the solution is talk therapy? The problem is spiritual.

These kids need the love of God showed to them. Hope is the antidote for despair. Hope only comes from knowing you will always be okay, knowing that someone will be there for you even in the worst of times, and knowing that regardless of circumstances you are loved. This only comes from knowing God.

We need more of the BOC who have godly character and spiritual wisdom to get involved in the lives of others. Our "throw money at it" Christianity is failing.

My Second Amendment
Many more American citizens are killed by Americans than by illegals.
---StrongAxe on 3/7/18

You do research or have knowledge about this topic. I see that you care deeply to solve this issue.

But to solve this issue, we need to stop who is doing the shooting.

Who are the perpetrators for these mass shootings?

They are Young White Men. Not all, but certainly the majority.

We have failed these young men as parents, mentors, and teachers. We have not reached them, not encouraged them, and not challenged them. We have been so focused on other demographics (gender and race) that these men have been lost, emotionally, mentally, and spiritually.

We must find a way to change these men.

Is There A Burp Demon
She burped like every 5 seconds...She was nuts.
---Sandra on 3/7/18


Thank you for a great laugh!

My Second Amendment
...the gun culture promoted by the NRA and other like-minded people is responsible for the large number of mass shootings in the U.S...
---StrongAxe on 3/7/18

The gun culture is the American heritage.

Our history is bloody and violent. The freedoms we have were bought and paid for in blood. We should never forget that.

And I have no desire to be like any other country in the world. No country in Europe, Asia, or Africa has the right to keep and bear arms. They have limited freedom.

Our Founders knew what this freedom would cost. They also knew it would allow us to be truly free, free from any monarchy or ruling class telling us what our freedoms are.

My Second Amendment
How is restricting machine guns, and requiring background to weed out sales ONLY to criminals "removing fire arms"?
---StrongAxe on 3/6/18

Please read the Second Amendment. The words "the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed".

Any restriction (even machine guns) is an infringement of my ability to keep that firearm (even though the word fire is not included).

Do you think revolution could break out if we the people had only handguns and the government had machine guns?

Its as simple as anyone who want to infringe or restrict my firearms, wants to take them away from ME.

My Second Amendment
The people I know who want to remove fire arms are people who do not own them.

When our Founding Fathers wrote in the Second Amendment, they realized that without arms, we would have never have won our freedom from England or even been able to fight for it.

They also realized that without arms, most could not feed themselves. Think of life in the wild trying to survive without the ability to kill game.

We no longer need the ability to kill game to survive. But we still need arms to fight for freedom.

Ask the people in Ukraine about freedom and arms. They will likely agree with our second amendment.

Virtual Reality Churches.
Therefore a vr church is NO CHURCH AT ALL!
---Cluny on 3/1/18

Welcome back Cluny!

I pray that you are on the mend and that God as our constant companion keeps things interesting during the boring times of inactivity.

We were given an update by StrongAxe and it sounds like you had quite a fall.

We are glad to see you back here but please, take your time, heal properly, and do what your doctors tell you to do!

The New Testament Books
Learn the two-fold ministry that Jesus has for both the heaven and the earth.
---michael_e on 2/27/18

This sounds odd.

This division of ministry seems contrived.

Jesus had one purpose, destined from before the ages, to include us in the life of the Trinity. His birth, life, death, ascension, is all about accomplishing that one goal. Jesus said so right before the cross:

John 17:26 "and I have made Your name known to them, and will make it known, so that the love with which You loved Me may be in them, and I in them."

As you say, St. Paul saw it:

Eph 1:5 "He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will"

The New Testament Books
Since the majority of Matt-John and Jesus entire earthly ministry occurred before his death then no doubt these four books are still in the context of the Old Covenant...
---michael_e on 2/26/18

Okay. I see your point and the proof you have provided.

Yet, I fail to see its significance. Why is this important?

Are you proving that what Jesus said has no relevance in our (BOC) lives? Are you saying that we should not pay attention to Jesus because He was OT and we are now under the NT?

Jesus is the New Covenant. His blood and death is the blood of the covenant between God and man. God walked thru the blood in His death and we must walk thru His blood to participate in this covenant.

Living Christian Lifestyle
Love works...Those who love GOD and love others work...
---Samuelbb7 on 2/9/18

I totally agree.

In fact, God wants our participation. Jesus demonstrated this with His first miracle. Jesus transformed the water into wine but why did He use the servants? He could have performed the miracle without the servants. He wanted their participation.

It is this participation that we are blind to. Farmers are participating in the life of the Trinity by providing food for the sheep. Yet we rarely give farmers credit for this, even in our prayers. We thank God for the food, but we should be thanking God for the farmers.

Finish it here February 2018 #2
Some how St. Polycarp's writings wouldn't be needed...
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/25/18

I think the biggest legacy of the church fathers is the Trinity.

The church fathers fought against heresy after heresy and still developed the truth of the Trinity, which is largely ignored today.

I think it was Karl Rahner who said that if the Trinity was removed from our theology, that we would hardly notice.

How little we pay attention to the deepest truth about our God!

And yet the church fathers were fascinated with it and fought for it.

Finish it here February 2018 #2
making yourself equal to God...
---kathr4453 on 2/23/18

I wondered how you would slander me and turn this challenge against me.

You have proven to all here you have no love for anyone but yourself. You do not want to hear honest feedback from the BOC. You will not submit yourself to any authority or each other. You are unteachable.

Your dogma and doctrine are useless if you have no love. You have missed that our God is love, other-centered self-giving love. Our God wants us, the BOC, to become that love for everyone else on the planet. You show the world that the BOC does not care for itself, and in so doing, that God does not care for them.

Your "good works" do not glorify our Father in Heaven.

Finish it here February 2018 #2
how can you PROVE your fruit is OF GOD when you argue against the very scriptures that are of God?
---kathr4453 on 2/23/18

First, only YOU think I argue against the Scriptures that are from God. No one else has ever accused me of that.

Second, the only other name I have been called in these blogs is a Trinitarian. Another badge of honor. Trinity is the deepest truth of our God and I am glad they have revealed this to us.

Third, our witness here in these blogs tells the truth of our fruit. I challenge you to ask those here what they think of your love, character, and your witness.

To all bloggers: please tell me what you think of my behavior, my love, my character, and my witness in these blogs.

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