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Jesus Takes Our Sin
Mark_Eaton, just my last comment of this subject. Our faith should be based completely on our OWN study and conviction, and not on...."WELL, There are two theories etc." my faith is not in theories EVER.

My beliefs are not based on anyone's theory, and that is WHY I feel safe in stating MY CONVICTIONS backed by scripture, not backed or not backed by what anyone else says.

For you to be so dogmatic about NOT believing it, based in OTHERS THEORIES, is not a convincing argument, especially where no scripture backs up those theories. We all know it was in reference to Psalms 22, Just as Jesus Virgin Birth was prophesied. But AGAIN, the virgin birth itself has deep deep significance, not JUST that it was prophesied.

I Like A 16 Year Old Girl
And Nicole, you did see those folks lined up at the gas station in San Juan....correct. Did you know gas pumps need electricity to pump gas? Did you see some sort of hand pumping like in the olden days where people hand pumped water?

You really should THINK before you speak. And not be so quick to snipe out your STUPID COMENTS. The reason any news agencies could even report from PR was because the ONLY place with electricity was San Juan. ..yes that takes electricity.

Is Disaster Looting Sinful
This just came in from my friends from PR. Please pray ..

Outbreak of conjunctivitis...
Outbreak of scabies...
Outbreak of lice...
And now outbreak of leptosperosis (poisoning with rat orin)... 3 deaths in have already been reported and there are 9 cases with possible contagion at Carolina Hospital, brothers brothers and in canovanas... do not drink water from "Springs" or bathe in them... eye with the children when they are playing. Rats urinate wherever it is and if you have contact with the urine and you feel symptoms run to the hospital as you take your organs and tear them to pieces at least (72 hours). Wash everything you buy, cans, bottles, etc.... for your sake and your family...

Knee During National Anthem
Blacks are more frequently confronted by cops simply because they're more likely to be involved in crime (thanks to DEMs policies).

---Haz27 on 10/1/17

Seriously? confronted because "More likely" , or because one is caught in a crime? Profiling is illegal Haz27. It's comments like this that actually is racist comments. I believe the mafia has been very involved over the years in CRIME, which consist mostly of Italian descent. YET I do not make comments about "Italians are more likely" like so many did in the past, and something we saw years ago in New Orleans on the docks, discriminated against Italians, WHY, because people get prejudice ideas in their heads taught by their surroundings and it gets ugly.

Are Jews Christians
Great catch Strongaxe. Many Christian Jews call themselves Messianic Jews, and interestingly enoutpgh, many Gentiles call themselves Messianic Jews. And RABBI simply means TEACHER. It does not mean POPE in English or Latin, if that is what Nicole means. How else could it possibly be BLASPHEMOUS.

These words With Nicole's definitions she throws around are hilarious.

Now if I wanted to make a big stink here, I would be calling Nicole a RACIST ACCORDING TO HER definitionS of RACIST.

Is Saving Faith A Work
Romans 6:22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness

The Law cannot set you free from sin, as Paul shows in Romans 7.

BUT the FINISHED WORKS OF CHIST DOES. In the OT sins were only covered, meaning incomplete.

So if your faith is not in the FINISHED works of Christ, where we are actually set FREE from sin, because we died with Christ and are raised a New Creature IN CHRIST making that possible, where we now walk in the Spirit and not in the flesh, Romans 8, where our "fruit" is unto righteousness, and not dead works, then your not even saved in the first place JamesL.
GOD DIDN'T STOP at justification. This is not Calvinism. This is scriptural.

Dinosaurs Tearing Teeth
And Jerry, just to reiterate, ETERNAL is defined as having no beginning or end. Only God is eternal.
Again you said:

The 7th day Sabbath was observed from Creation, is still observed by many faithful today, and will be observed in eternity, as it is as eternal as its Creator. It is you who are out of step.
---jerry6593 on 4/14/15

Nope Jerry, like Warwick, you apply words without understanding its meaning, and teach a dogma not founded in scripture. No scripture says there will be 24 hour days in Heaven........unless...woops wait....a day is like 1000 years. Maybe the creation week then wasn't 24 hour days after all, according to your ETERNAL THEORY.

Why Did God Rest
Mark 2:27And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:

I don't think sabbath keepers really understand what Jesus was saying here. The sabbath, the 7th day, the complete works of redemption, entering HIS rest! WAS MADE FOR SINFUL MAN, right from the very beginning of creation. When Adam and Eve sinned, God covered them in animal skins, a type and shadow of Christ, was not some new and different creative work God just thought up months or years later. This is the Gospel, and has been explained all throughout scripture using the number 7. This is how we derive 666, and it's meaning as well. May The Lord give you all a deeper understanding of His plan of salvation any YOUR completeness IN Christ 7.

Why Did God Rest

Galatians 6:13 For neither they themselves who are circumcised keep the law, but desire to have you circumcised, that they may glory in your flesh.

14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.17 From henceforth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus.

This truth applies to ALL the Law, whether circumcision, or sabbath keeping.

Go Ahead And Sin Anyway
Colossians 3:9-10

9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds,

10 And have put on the new man, "which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him"

Lawrence, here again in Colossians we see the terms old man, NEW MAN. So as a WOMAN, I have not, nor will I ever put off a male body, and I have NOT as we speak, PUT ON a male body. So as scripture teaches scripture, we see, being made in HIS IMAGE, has NOTHING to do with a male body, whether in Genesis or now.

Saved If Don't Understand
Did We Exist as Spirits in Heaven Before Earth?

We were first begotten as spirit babies in heaven and then born naturally on earth (Journal of Discourse, Vol. 4, p. 218).

The plan of the parent gods in Mormonism goes like this: Life for you did not begin here on earth. You lived before you were born you will live on in the spirit world after your mortal life is ended. We all once lived in the presence of God the eternal father. In the world before your were a spirit child of his. With this divine parentage, your destiny, through righteous living, is to become like your Father in Heaven and return to his presence (The Purpose of Life Pamphlet handed out at the Temple on BYU campus).

Slain In The Spirit
All, please google : reprobate for a definition. Guess say in CALVINISM, it means predestined to hell.

So there ya go. Another using a Calvin dictionary, who we all know has their own definitions of words to fit their false doctrine.

Gotcha aservant.

No New Testament Written
Trav, there also seems to be a confusion then with your interpretation of Romans 11.... SOME OF THE BRANCHES WERE BROKEN OFF, so the Gentiles could be grafted in. The SOME here, the SOME here of Judah, or the 10th house? If you say "SOME" was "SOME" of the 10th house, what "SOME" of the tenth house would that be referred to as WILD AGAINST NATURE, and the remaining 10 are not? Scripture back up please for that. Also, after the Gentiles come in, your "SOME" of the 10th, those you now say are grafted back in, are referred to as the Natural branches, before they are even grafted back in.

That is going to be a hard one to explain using your theory.

When Were Angels Created

Now this may be something as a type or shadow ???? BUT, when we see Moses parted the sea, and then again at the Jordan drying up the Jordan to cross over into the promise land.....and again in Psalms....we came through FIRE AND WATER a doubt a spiritual place ...... Have you ever seen or thought about this from a spiritual perspective? I see something a little deeper here but need more pieces to see the whole. Your thoughts?

Are There Three Earth Ages
And finally...we know that we overcome SATAN through the blood of Christ. We overcome satan because we are IN Christ , that is the risen Christ. Satan was defeated through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ who was made flesh. God KNEW before and planned before man was ever brought into this world he would be made flesh and take on the flesh of MAN To overthrow satan. This was no after thought of woops.....6 perfect days, and now what. We are told in Genesis 3:15 the adversary is satan, and that was no surprise to God, ALL this planning from beginning to end took place BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD.

Oh the wisdom of God is such that only the NEW creature having the wisdom that is in Christ can grasp.

Explain Acts 4:27-28
the Spirit of the life of Christ IN YOU, was not in anyone in the OT. It is THIS SPIRIT that one has eternal life THROUGH JESUS CHRIST. The Spirit of the LIFE OF CHRIST IN YOU is our salvation, first identifying with Jesus in death, being raised up together with Him a NEW CREATURE. The Spirit of the LIFE OF CHRIST, that is the RISEN CHRIST, was not available in the OT.

No one in the OT was changed from GLORY TO GLORY by the Spirit of The Lord Markv. THIS SPIRIT according to 2nd Cor 3 came with the NEW COVENANT, that came into effect ONLY AFTER Jesus rose from the dead.

Romans 6-8 again PROVE this fact.

It is/ was impossible to live under GRACE, and Law at the same time.

Galatians 2:20-21 make that PERFECTLY CLEAR.

Original Sin Teachings
Nana, did you read in Hebrews 11 exactly what made Abel righteous to begin with? The righteous in scripture are all who's FAITH is in God through Christ. OT saints looked forward to the coming redeemer, as did Abel when he obeyed and offered a blood sacrifice which he then became an heir of the righteousness, which is BY FAITH, not birth .

Should Christians Be Poor
1 Timothy 6:8-10

8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.

9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.

10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

Prepared For Hell
In order to KNOW the Will of God one must first OBEY Romans 12:1-2.

Then after YOU personally have obeyed in this area, God will reveal His will TO YOU.

But if you want to take someone's second hand knowledge they themselves have learned second and third hand by the wisdom of men, that's at your own risk.

If you want to Learn, then ask God, not anyone here.

Advise is the cheapest thing in the world, it COSTS NOTHING. Anyone can give it.

If you really want truth, God's truth, it will cost you your whole surrendered life to Him.

God is not WILLING, in otherwords, it is not God's WILL that any should perish but His will is we come to the Knowledge of HIM. Not someone's doctrine.

Israel Gods Chosen People
all peoples were created on the sixth day.Adam and Eve were created on the eight day.Cain went to the land of Nod and married one of the sixth day creations.
---willa8985 on 9/16/05

Well put. This is the most concise I seen it put, Willa. There were two creations that differ in Genesis. Two types of men women created. The hebrew language identify's. Strongs concordance helps a little.
---Trav on 1/13/09

WRONG PUT TRAV. And this is where you say not all died in the deluge...and somehow there are still beings without souls with us today who look like and talk like and walk like MAN...but another type.

THIS IS HERESY ! No scripture supports an 8th day man. LITTLE MISTER!

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