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I Want To Serve God
  
No ven you must be destined to do what you do. Still making ignorant statements. Also Calvinism IS REFORMED THEOLOGY. CALVIN INVENTED REFORMED THEOLOGY. But it's clear your still a baby on milk, needing to be hand fed still dependent on man's works that haven't even been approved of God. I know the scriptures are approved of God and have no problem understanding the scriptures. You just admitted you don't and still need man to teach you. I've got your number. You still don't understand Peter. I get it. You won't understand it either until you are saved.


Can Angels Have God's Grace
  
Yes Samuel. One thing ven and Calvinists don't understand is that not even in the OT was anything even close to Calvinism taught. They take scripture to do with SERVICE, NOT SALVATION to make their case..RE Jacob Esau. Ruth FREELY CHOSE to join Israel and follow Naomi becoming one of Jesus ansestors. Many scriptures of the foreigner and stranger welcome, show even then free will and not exclusion. Even Rahab in Joshua. Same God, same way of Salvation.


Know Each Other In Heaven
  
I have read many on different subjects by many writers. R.C. Sproul my favorite. Jonathan Edwards, Arthur Pink, Michael Horton, John MaCarthur, ...Charles Spurgeon, George Whifield,...End time Delusions by Steve Wohlberg who I think is a Seventh Day Adventist. like the book but don't follow his beliefs. Good book to read on the end times. Concerning Calvin, I don't have anything on him. I hear he was great.......
---ven. on 7/8/20


Funny how someone who says the Spirit made Him ALIVE to believe rely on the works of men. You don't have to be made alive to read and follow religious books. Many religious people read these books having never been born again. A true believer Made Alive has the testimony of Jesus in their own words.


Know Each Other In Heaven
  
Saying no one knows if they are chosen or not is strange. Sounds like the JW'S who believe only 144,000 will be saved, but no one really knows if they are one of the 144,000 seeing there are millions of JW'S since its inception. Any doctrine limiting the number of saved to a secret few IS A CULT.

I definitely know I'm saved. And according to Romans 11 I'm one of the elect according to the election of Grace. I do know I have been chosen to be IN CHRIST when I put my faith in Him, surrendering my life to Him. The CHURCH is what is CHOSEN, to be joint heirs with Christ, never promised to earthy Israel.


I Want To Serve God
  
Ven, no I'm telling you I am Jewish, but one who is Born Again. And according to Romans 11 I am one of Gods elect according to the election of Grace. When you grab verses like the stumbling stone rock of offense, having no idea what it means, ( Christian Jews DO know what that means) you show yourself to be a silly person or even child, using scripture to throw stones at someone , however that verse was never ment for you to use as a club against anyone, especially a Christian Jew who has not stumbled at the message if the cross.

I find your interpretation of scripture ven out in left field. Salvation IS OF THE JEWS, meaning WE KNOW what Salvation according to scripture is and isn't .


Can Angels Have God's Grace
  
Ven, I'll say it here as well, I am a Jew, a Christian Jew. I know what that verse means, YOU DONT. it is talking to Jews who reject Jesus as the promised messiah, the stumbling stone and rock of offense is the message of the cross. I have not rejected Jesus Christ or the message if the cross, I've testified to here over 15 years. To use that verse as a club to assault those saved is of Satan. And the more you talk, I say Satan has a hold over your tongue. You say things you aught not say. Especially to a Christian Jew. Jesus said SALVATION IS "OF"THE JEWS. It's not of Calvin or Reformed Theology. We know what salvation is ven, YOU DO NOT.


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No ven, grabbing a verse out of context, right in the middle of Paul's letter, disregarding all the verses before..***EPH 1:13** is very important and central... and taking CH 2 out of context is dishonest. We were raised up together WITH HIM as Romans 6 clearly state when we are first baptized into His Death. You completely ignore the whole Gospel,and cherry pick. Ephesians is written to those already justified by faith. No Paul is taking those already saved into deeper territory. But again Ephesians is about JESUS quickening us, just as 1Cotinthians 15 make clear. Also it makes clear nothing is quickened unless it first dies. This death being our identification with Jesus in death and resurrection life.


I Want To Serve God
  
Ven, don't play coy here. The only doctrine who believes and used the exact same scriptures with the exact words for word definitions and verbage you do is Calvinism AKA Reformed Theology . You don't even use your own words, but ones taught you by man. Like a parrot. It's no coincidence that you present the same arguments word for word without scripture. No one else teaches this doctrine. To saying you never heard of Calvin or Calvinism I believe is a lie from your lips. We're not stupid here. This is a man made religion.


Know Each Other In Heaven
  
some come to Christ when they are young, some when they are old. :The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes, So is everyone who is born of the Spirit. John 3:8.
---ven. on 7/5/20

Yet again this is not what this verse means, that the Holy Spirit is some independent contractor working independently from the Father and Son, willy nilly blowing around saying , I GOT ONE FOR YA GOD. No scripture again supports this fanciful thinking.


I Want To Serve God
  
Romans 3:9-10 is one Calvinist's rest their hat on that all humans are depraved animals having no understanding ...OH WAIT, UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT? Of God in general? of the Law that points to sin... the Pharasees thought they could live by?

But here we see Cornelius. He was not saved, nor was he made ALIVE first ,but had a fear of God , a religious man. The Angels saw this and reported it back to God, who then sent them to Peter to go to his home and share the Gospel. Then as they were hearing the Holy Spirit fell upon them.

Another, the men Paul approached, asking, "HAVE YOU RECEIVED THE HOLY SPIRIT SINCE YOU BELIEVED" No, we've never even heard of any Holy Spirit. They believed John the Baptist preaching.


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Funny ven uses the verse re The Cross, ....I guess if he says it, it's not a piece of wood, but when I say anything about the cross, somehow it's only a piece of wood. What is even more telling is Calvinist's don't adhear to the cross, they adhear to election. The preaching of the cross is NOT....GOD PICKED ME, OH MY GOD PICKED ME. That's not the Gospel or the preaching of the Cross.

Here's the preaching of the cross:

For God so loved the world He gave His only begotten Son to die on a cross, for our sins, and not only ours but the sins of the whole world, that whosoever...meaning this includes Gentiles as well as Jews, BELIEVES IN HIM will not perish but have eternal life.


I Want To Serve God
  
ven, just because God knows beginning to the end still does not prove Calvinism. You make all sorts of silly accusations against those who do not adhere to Calvinism. First you accused me of denying Jesus , then compare me to Jews who rejected Jesus as the Messiah, ....what next ven? You just pull false accusations out of your ear. You say all sorts of stuff and don't even back up with scripture, and when you do use scripture it's so out in left field one wonders where you get such ideas. You force scripture to say what it is not saying. This is exactly how CULTS operate. And then go wacco when questioned.


People Reject God
  
ven again you twist scripture to say what you want. You make God look schitzo. All Peter had to say from the Calvin's perspective is, GOD IS WAITING FOR HIS ELECT TO REPENT. But that is not what the verse says. Only in your mind. That is only YOUR INTERPRETATION of scripture. Your interpretation is not the one and only final interpretation. Please understand that.


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There is no scripture that the Holy Spirit makes you ALIVE first so that you can hear the Gospel and Believe. The WORD OF GOD is living and powerful itself in its own right, JESUS SAID MY WORDS ARE SPIRIT AND LIFE John 6:63 So now we see Romans 10 is true . The preaching of the Gospel is all that's needed to pierce between soul and spirit joint and marrow..Hebrews 4. The WORD is more powerful than our fallen nature. ven says man's fallen state is more powerful than God. YIKES He puts God on a very small powerless scale equal to man. That's horrible. My God is more powerful than ven's god

Where is ven's scripture?


Can Angels Have God's Grace
  
Van you are hilarious. The verse you posted was to Jews who rejected the CROSS, not those who deny your false doctrine. You can't even use correct scripture to make a case. Being a Jew, I have not rejected Christ and Him Crucified and risen for my redemption. But you may have ven. Try again with your nonsense. You have no clue who your talking to. ( One of God's REAL ELECT) silly.


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One problem with Calvinism is they either don't understand justification, or just plain don't believe the scriptures concerning justification. One must first be justified by faith. This is your LEGAL STANDING BEFORE GOD. It is NOT your Born Again experience. You see, Martin Luther was the one in the RCC who so wonderfully wrote about Justification by faith. The Catholics hated it. Calvin being at one time a Catholic must have hated it too, along with Martin Luther, and made up his own doctrine ...REFORMED CATHOLICISM. It's the RCC, illigitimate child . Calvin also believed in infant baptism, and murdered the annabaptists who disagreed with that Catholic doctrine. Folks, Calvinism is reformed Catholicism, still got it wrong.


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ven , Just because one does not believe in your CULT doctrine, does not mean they are guilty of all your accusations here. This is what you have been taught by your cult leaders to keep you in that cult, by making you believe if you don't stay where you are that is what you become or believe. They also want to make sure you've been brainwashed to believe those who oppose are enemies of God. You couldn't be further from the truth. I actually feel sorry for you ven, and all those Satan has a stronghold over.

We are sealed and filled with the Holy Spirit AFTER WE BELIEVE, not before. Your doctrine is not grounded in the Word if God, but in mans philosophy and theories. I'll keep you in my prayers ven.


Can Angels Have God's Grace
  
Poor delusional ven, Mormons use the verse in Jeremiah , so again that raises a red flag. That was not to you specifically ven, as you are not Jeremiah or a prophet, and before Isaac and Jacob were born, God told Rebecca when she was pregnant with twins the elder will SERVE the younger. Genesis 25:23 But again ven, Amos 3:2 state God only knew Israel of all the families on earth. So again I ask you, were you a spirit baby Jew or a spirit baby Gentile? So if perhaps you are hanging your hat on those two verses, no scripture makes any such comment about Gentiles.

Again yours is MORMON, not Christianity or even mainstream Calvinism. I'm afraid you've gotten yourself tied up with a church who let the dogs in.


I Want To Serve God
  
ven , Just because one does not believe in your CULT doctrine, does not mean they are guilty of all your accusations here. This is what you have been taught by your cult leaders to keep you in that cult, by making you believe if you don't stay where you are that is what you become or believe. They also want to make sure you've been brainwashed to believe those who oppose are enemies of God. You couldn't be further from the truth. I actually feel sorry for you ven, and all those Satan has a stronghold over.

We are sealed and filled with the Holy Spirit AFTER WE BELIEVE, not before. Your doctrine is not grounded in the Word if God, but in mans philosophy and theories. I'll keep you in my prayers ven.


Know Each Other In Heaven
  
When the Holy Spirit MAKES YOU ALIVE, it's only after one has been Crucified with Christ and raised up together with Him, where to be " made alive " only comes AFTER DEATH. Ephesians 2:1-10 Romans 6-8 ONLY IN CHRIST ARE YOU MADE ALIVE. We also have to die with Christ FIRST, now today to be MADE ALIVE. Galatians 2:20-21 Gal 6 . Those who do will not see or be part of the SECOND DEATH. Jesus came to save us from THE SECOND DEATH.

So no, no one is just made alive by the Holy Spirit apart from Jesus Christ and our identification with Him in death OUR SECOND DEATH NOW, and resurrection life NOW IN CHRIST. The Holy Spirit is not magically resurrecting anyone prior to belief in Jesus. This is a CULT DOCTRINE.



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