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Jesus Takes Our Sin
But when we sin, and that sin is not confessed, as taught by Jesus in (Matthew 6:6-15), we become separated from God, as told in (Isaiah 59:2).

Which is why Jesus cried out on the cross, because he felt that separation for the first and last time of his life.
---David on 10/22/17

David , there are scriptures under the NEW Covenant.( you went back to the old, where Jesus fulfilled the old by taking our plac) but forget the NEW COVENANT promises....I WILL NEVER LEAVE YOU OR FORSAKE YOU.

We DIED to sin David....if you obeyed Romans 6-8. And you also we are being chastened by our Father to be more like Him....not ignored. Only FAKE CHRISTIANS ARE IGNORED and left to their own devices and get worse as each day goes by.

Anti-Christ Or The False Prophet
You tell them PETER,...:

1 Perer 1: 18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers(((, Which was practiced by the FALSE Catholic Church telling folks they could pay their loved ones way out of an imaginary place called pergetory...a LIE FROM HELL))))

19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory, that your faith and hope might be in God.

Are Statues Good Or Bad
"Divide and Conquer" was also used by Hitler, and now used by Trump. I've never heard or seen so much hatred between folks, friends and family that scream words like : communist lefty, fake news, crooked this one or crazy that one or Liddle this one, ....inciting hatred among even families or DIVIDE their own party and using some excuse they are bad for the party thereby giving them derogatory nicknames.

Jesus warned that there would come a day when love would wax cold, and mother and father would turn again son and daughter, and vice versa.

This is just the beginning, also read 2 Timothy 3.... TRUCEBREAKERS is also noted. Having a form of godliness but denying the power.from such TURN AWAY.

Is There Beauty Discrimination
2 Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, (MEANING NO SELF CONTROL WE SEE DAY IN AND DAY OUT)))...fierce, despisers of those that are good, ( HIS OWN PARTY) 4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God,

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away..

This describes Trump to a T.

Is There Beauty Discrimination
Obamasboy, can you direct us all to her bragging statement that she claims to own?

There's lying and deceit on all sides of the aisle. But I think what Strongaxe is saying, I may be wrong, is that Falwell Jr and the Christian community DID NOT OPENLY ENDORSE HILLARY CLINTON. THEY ENDORSED DONALD TRUMP

That's the difference Obamasboy. And not only Falwell Jr, but the heretic Paula White, who lays hands on Trump and has for the past 10 years. Maybe that's why Trump is so off the rails, ..he might be demon possessed by a demon possessed charismatic heretic who lies and steals from ignorant people. But she's WEALTHY, like Trump, so he can't see she's a LOSER.

Jesus Takes Our Sin

David, I agree your verses in Thess is exactly what Hebrews 10 is saying.

And it's Heb10 that I have been posting here ....ALL OF HEBREWS 10, which is the rejection of the very essence of the Gospel.

Hebrews 10:28-30

28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

Anti-Christ Or The False Prophet
Looney1 hit the nail on the head here. He asked " do you thing there are any RELIGIONS...."

There are NO RELIGIONS out there Looney1 that are true and correct. Why? Because Christianity is NOT a Religion. Christianity is a PERSON, the Person of Jesus Christ.

But you yourself said you don't care about dogma, but a person's whatever.

There are wonderful people in the world with loving, selfless, compassionate hearts, yet deny Jesus is the Christ. Whether you like it or not Looney1, they are LOST, according to GOD. If you don't like that answer, take up your argument with the Lord, not with folks here who believe Gods Word.

Jesus Takes Our Sin
So with that Obamasboy, split hairs if you want, but from Adam and Eve to Cain and Able, God showed exactly HOW one was considered righteous in His Eyes. Hebrews 11 will explain. Abel offered a BLOOD sacrifice, Cain did not. You see the outcome.

Job also knew about making a sacrifice....even for his children....

It was no secret until the Law or Jesus death and resurrection that man no matter what WERE SINNERS.

AND Mark_Eaton, again, I disagree with your scripture you are using to make some point that has nothing to do with...IN ADAM ALL DIE. clearly stated in Romans 5. It was ADams SIN that DEATH passed on to all man.

Jesus Takes Our Sin
Romans2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another,)

16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

Also showing there is no such thing as total depravity where man has no conscience of right and wrong.

Romans 5 clearly say that from Adam to Moses there was no LAW. However before that and even now man has a conscience. Romans 1-2 say even without the Law of Moses they are without excuse.

Is There Beauty Discrimination
Perfection is demanded of us from God. No excuses
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/19/17

Wrong again. 7 is equated to perfection in Gods eyes. Falling short is 6 also equals unregenerate man or just the number of man. Now we know the ONLY one who is PERCECT Is the Lord....A 7. And scripture says we are perfected forever those who are SANCTIFIED IN CHRIST. Hebrews 10. My standing IN CHRIST is that IN HIM I am perfect, ONLY because He is Perfect.

Perfect IN CHRIST is also what it is to be COMPLETE In Christ, again what 7 again means.

We all know the Catholic Church teaches a WORKS salvation. And We all know Nicole continues the teaching of the Catholic Churches WORKS Salvation.


Is There Beauty Discrimination

Natural law will determine one's eternal destiny.

Our works of charity/conduct or lack of them are used by Jesus.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/19/17

Our works may determine our REWARDS in heaven, but not our eternal destiny. Our eternal life is based on JESUS FINISHED WORKS ON THE CROSS not our works.

There are many wonderful Hindu etc, who I'm sure do wonderful works, but do not believe Jesus died for their sin.

If man could work their way to heaven ...(our eternal destiny) , then Jesus died in vain.

Surprised Loony1 would encourage apostasy doctrine here ....hummm

Jesus Takes Our Sin
David, I believe you are twisting Pauls words in Timothy. There was no LAW, as in the LAW of Moses from Adam to Moses. There was the moral law of conscience. Now if I were born between Moses and before Jesus Death and resurrection, and belonged to one of the tribes of Israel under the Law, that would apply. TODAY I live after Jesus Death and resurrection, and the Law pointed to sin, where then Grace pointed to a remedy. Today as a saved sinner I live by GRACE through FAITH. And where we are taught the LAW is not of FAITH, also spoken in scripture. I live by the Faith of Jesus Christ IN ME. No I was not born that way, I was SAVED that way.

Jesus Takes Our Sin
Habakkuk 1:13 Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity: wherefore lookest thou upon them that deal treacherously, and holdest thy tongue when the wicked devoureth the man that is more righteous than he?

So we do see scripture that does actually God cannot look at sin.

Jesus Takes Our Sin
Mark_Eaton, your verses are great but stil do not PROVE God didn't look away from sin at that very moment. I still believe what I believe based on what was taught in the OT re the Tabernacle, Holy of Holies etc. nothing you say will change my mind or the minds of those who also believe as I do.

You are FREE to believe as you do as well. Trying to force verses out of context to fit doesn't work either.

Jesus said it, and if it were not so, He would not have said it. It has meaning....and NOT just that it was in Psalms 22. I believe sin itself separated God from man when Adam sinned, and is exactly WHY the Word was made flesh to reconcile man back to God.

But it also may be you don't believe in original sin.

Revolutionary Communist Party
Darlene1 gave you awesome wisdom and advise Nicole. LOVE! That does not falsely accuse. ***1st Corinthians 13. or bust into unrelated blogs continuing on with your false accusations, asking others to help you trash and troll other bloggers. I Forgive you for doing that.

People bold text , some change its color to red or blue, some underline, some CAP, and some italicize, and none of those insinuate racism. If Bolding a text is blatant racism in someones face ...there would be law suits galore And Microsoft or whoever would have to stop allowing folks to use them, if that is what it means.

There are no jokes attached to my bolded text either. If there is, I'd like to know what the joke is.

Jesus Takes Our Sin
Isaiah 59:2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.

Well this verse NIX'S the shadow of turning theory. There is no shadow of turning with God, meaning He is as good as His Word. He will not lie or go back on His Word. And when you ask wisdom, ask in faith BELIEVING , not doubting His promises.

Mark_Eaton, we have a promise...that because Jesus bore our sin, took OUR judgement, and took OUR Wrath, that God said those now "In Christ", I will never leave you or forsake you. NOTHING can separate us from the love of God IN CHRIST JESUS, life, death nothing.

That's what you should be telling folks.

Jesus Takes Our Sin
15......16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey, whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. 18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
---kathr4453 on 10/18/17

David, yes, and the doctrine I obeyed was total surrender. That's what yielding your members unto God means. I posted all those verses, in Romans 6 leading up to your verse, before and after. Also is again reiterated in Romans 12:1-2.

You have to read the WHOLE TEXT.

Jesus Takes Our Sin
I hope people will remember in the NT age, the Lord doesn't want us working for Him, but He wants to work THROUGH US. That's the whole purpose of being filled with the Holy Spirit. NO longer I but CHRIST IN ME? This is what Galatians is teaching us...those who can hear. But that verse also beginsgalatians 2:20-21


These verses compliment Romans 6.

Jesus Takes Our Sin
Mark_Eaton, yes I have read all those sites you are using to make your case. And again, there are others who disagree. I personally believe at that very moment when sin was placed on the "humanity" of Jesus, who died in our place, it was the humanity of Jesus who cried out.

But like I stated, I don't want to argue about it. That just one more question we can all ask when we see Him.

Also,remember, a verse in Habakuk and one in Isaiah say Gods eyes are to PURE to look upon sin. Another verse says He does not near the prayers of sinners. Now we know Jesus was not a sinner, BUT Jesus still stood in our place..and suffered what we would have. THATS why He was made flesh...

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