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Failed System Of Socialism
  

ax: Your FALSE PREMISE that you want the good form of socialism - not the bad - ignores the reality that ALL socialism requires the breaking of the Christian proscription against stealing and coveting. If the majority of your neighbors agree to break into the rich neighbor's mansion and steal his stuff, is that OK with you? You call it Democratic Socialism, but its real name is MOB RULE.

Socialism, in whatever form, always requires police state FORCE in order to achieve compliance with its Utopian world view. The result is always the same - millions murdered.

We do NOT owe you free health care. Go back to Canada and wait for them to decide your fate. America protects the individual - not the collective.




Suffer In Hell Forever
  


cluny: "If hell doesn't last forever, then heaven doesn't either."

Why not? By your logic, Sodom and Gomorrha are still burning today, as:

Jud 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of ETERNAL FIRE.

Do you really believe that they are still burning? I couldn't spot the fires on Google Earth.




Suffer In Hell Forever
  


No!

Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone

Mal 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven, and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

Mal 4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked, for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.




Western Eastern Religions
  


Robert: "Perhaps you can expound on Satan's form of government?"

Sure. God's government is based on LOVE. It is an economy of selflessness. Satan's government is the opposite. It is based on FORCE, and is an economy of selfishness. God's government is founded on the Ten Commandments (not 613), as:

Deu 4:13 And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even TEN COMMANDMENTS, and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.

These Commandments expressly forbid STEALING other's property and COVETING your neighbor's goods. Both of these are rampant in socialism.




Western Eastern Religions
  


ax: If you believe really, really hard, maybe it will come true - but I doubt it.

From Plato's Republic to Sir Thomas More's Utopia (1516) to Marx's Communism, the dream of a perfect socialist society has always ended in a totalitarian nightmare - It must, or it won't work. History always shows this as does Venezuela today.

Socialism requires the surrender of individual rights to the will of the "collective". It necessitates the oppressive FORCE of a central government to maintain obedience to its dictates. As such, it models the character of Satan's rather than God's government.





Western Eastern Religions
  


ax: That confirms it. You think Cortez is brilliant. That says a lot about you. She is nothing but a know-nothing puppet of her Communist handlers. Trump is high IQ brilliant. Possibly the best president of all time. Best of all, he plays you lefties like a fiddle.




Western Eastern Religions
  


cluny: "jerry, I know for a fact that StrongAxe is very strongly pro-life."

How then does he reconcile the Democrat Party's new policy of postpartum abortion?

I know that he is a Canadian socialist, but does he really embrace the anti-Christian LGBTQ thrust and the Jew-hatred of the Dems?

Of course the no brain comment was an insult, but can anyone seriously look at that A. O. Cortez woman without thinking "brainless"?




Western Eastern Religions
  

ax: Thanks for proving my point about Democrats being brainless. By the way, which of their pet policies do you love most - antisemitism, baby murder, sexual perversion, or socialism? I can guess.




He Is A Devout Catholic
  


No. That would be religious bigotry. Christians are supposed to love one another. Engage him in serious, but respectful Bible study.




Western Eastern Religions
  


Nicole: By now it should be obvious to anyone with a brain that the Democrat Party is the Party of Anti-Antisemitism, Infanticide, Sexual Perversion, Political Corruption, and even collusion with foreigners to disrupt our elections. Of course, the brain part rules out most Democrats.

I am still waiting for someone to address the issue of Muslims (in partnership with Democrats) tearing our civilization apart. Note how obsessed our media is with Islamophobia, while remaining oblivious to the thousands of Christians being slaughtered worldwide by the Moslem horde.




Authority Of The Government
  


Cluny: "The first Christian congregation in Jerusalem practiced communism in that they held all goods in common.

NOT TRUE!

Christians then, as now, give willingly - not by the force of government as defined by Marx in the redistribution of wealth. Such redistribution is powered by class warfare, and has at its roots the violation of two Commandments - Coveting and Theft. Jesus never taught violation of God's Law.

All the names leftists use, whether communist, progressive, socialist, etc. are the same in motivational principle - anti God's Law.





Authority Of The Government
  


cluny: I see you are still in stealth attack mode. Got anything constructive to say?



Nicole: It is difficult to tell what you mean in the blog question (could be the Mods again). Each of the three branches of the Federal Government has certain restraining powers over the other branches, but not the legal authority to usurp powers from the others nor to cede powers to the others. Although Congress has illegally ceded many powers to the Exec Branch.




What Is A Doctrine
  


Nicole:

New Covenant vs. 2 laws:

Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

Again, no mention of a new law in the new covenant - just a new location.

I know that your Church embraces the Ten Commandments (albeit numbering them differently). Why then do you seem to be warring against them like an Evangelical?




Authority Of The Government
  


ax: Sip, sip, sip!

Communism is the place where the God-given rights of parents is stripped away by the government in order to FORCE compliance with the brutal acts of an evil system bent on the enFORCEment of its misguided Utopian pipe dream.

Forcing a child to be injected with poisons (against his parent's wishes) just because YOU think it is in his best interest is cruel, evil and not at all compatible with Christian ethics.





What Is A Doctrine
  


My Bible says that the Law was NOT changed in the New Covenant, but rather the location of the Law was changed - the Heart rather than on Stone.

Jas 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
Jas 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
Jas 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.




Authority Of The Government
  


ax: Keep drinking the communist Kool Aid.





Denominational Church Missing
  


Nicole: My beef is not with you, but with Cluny. He stated that there was no sun worship prior to the time of Christ, and I proved him wrong - again.

Other than SDA's and a few other denominations, you Catholics are the only ones honest enough to admit why you keep Sunday holy.

He also claims to be orthodox, while not adhering to the original doctrines of Christ and the Apostles.




Denominational Church Missing
  


cluny: "mike. as I've already pointed out, Protestants invent [sic] sunrise services. The pre-reformation churches have no such custom."


As I've already pointed out, pagan sunrise services existed in Old Testament times.

Eze 8:16 And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD'S house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east, and they WORSHIPPED the SUN toward the EAST.

What other Commandments do you Sabbath-haters deny?




Western Eastern Religions
  


ax: You continue to defend Muslims as a perfectly acceptable religious denomination, with only a few "radicalized" bad actors. You could not be more wrong. 100% of Muslims base their religion, as well as their day-to-day lives on the writings of the vile Muhammad. The Koran urges the murder, rape and pillaging of ALL infidels who will not convert to Islam or accept slavery. You and I are among those infidels. Why would you defend such barbarism against US?





Is 666 The Mark Of The Beast
  


cluny: ""Reverend" is an adjective from the Latin. It is not a noun, much less a personal name of God."

Gee, what a scholar! The adjective in question assigns a quality of divinity to the preacher or pope. I think this is blasphemous. Per Webster:

Definition of blasphemy
1a : the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God
accused of blasphemy
1b : the act of claiming the attributes of a deity
for a mere man to suggest that he was divine could only be viewed as blasphemy
John Bright 1889
2 : irreverence toward something considered sacred or inviolable





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