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Does God Have Faith
  
The Lord Jesus Christ didn't need faith in God. He is God
Faith is what men possess when they hear the word of truth and believe it (Rom 10:17). Faith isn't needed by the man who is the Truth (John 14:6).
Men must have faith in the truth, but Christ was the truth.
Before men hear the truth and believe it, they don't have faith, and don't know the truth.
When people require Christ to have faith (faith and faithfulness are not the same) they are diminishing the truth found in Christ.
There was never a time when Jesus was not full of truth (John 1:14). Truth came by Jesus not to him like it did other men (John 1:17).
Christ didn't need faith. Christ is the object of faith (John 14:1).


What Is The Gospel
  
//Then you will understand, Philippians 3:18- 21. RE THE CROSS.//
I also Know that the boC doesn't have 12 tribes


What Is The Gospel
  
//Paul states in Ephesians that the wall between Jew and Gentile is broken down because of the cross, making IN HIM , that is Christ, one NEW man, neither Jew or Gentile.//
Which is the boC.
Born again first mentioned by Jesus to the circumcision (John 3:3) Israel, had been Gods people for centuries.
They were born unto God when they were delivered from Egypt as Gods nation. Their covenant with God proved they were Gods people.(Ex 4:22)
Years of breaking the covenant with God, Israel wasn't ready to enter their covenanted kingdom. Being born a Jew in the flesh wasn't enough: (Matt 3:9)
Israel needed to be born a second time with the Spirit to fulfill their covenants.(Ezek 36:24-28)


What Is The Gospel
  
Peters message at Pentecost to Israel was basically repeating Johns preaching of baptism, and Jesus kingdom gospel, but where's the cross? (Acts 3:14-15)
Peter preaches the death of Christ, condemns Israel for killing Christ and doesn't preach the cross as glory (Acts 5:28, Acts 10:39). Killing their Messiah isn't preaching the cross as good news.
In Pauls ministry there's something interesting about who preached the gospel first.(1 Cor 15:3)
Paul last to see the Lord, apparently, was first to preach the gospel of salvation as glory of the cross (Gal 6:14, 1 Cor 1:18).
Paul being first to preach the gospel, it's reasonable the church should follow Paul's pattern for preaching the gospel of Christ.(1 Tim 1:16


What Is The Gospel
  
Kathr, would have you believe the scripture is wrong and she is right.
Kathr would have you believe during Christs earthly ministry the 12 preached a gospel they didn't understand.
Kathr would have you believe the predominately Jewish Jerusalem church was not the church persecuted by Paul.
Kathr would have you believe the predominately Gentile church at Antioch and the Jerusalem church were one and the same.
Wrong on many counts


What Is The Gospel
  
Kathr would have you believe that the church at Jerusalem headed by the 12, primarily jewish, persecuted by Paul,
Acts 8:1 "..And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem"
is the same church primarily gentile headed up by Paul.
Acts 13:1 "Now there were in the church that was at Antioch ..."


What Is The Gospel
  
One last time, Jesus had an ministry on earth. He picked 12 disciples.
As Christ had not died and ascended, Paul's gospel was not available, so what did they preach?


What Is The Gospel
  
How many times??
Again, The twelve disciples did not understand the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ while they were preaching the Kingdom gospel.
The twelve couldn't preach Paul's gospel, as Christ had not yet died.


What Is The Gospel
  
//The Apostles understood the Gospel.//
Luke 18:34 "And they understood none of these things:.."
Again, The twelve disciples did not understand the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ while they were preaching the Kingdom gospel.
The twelve couldn't preach Paul's gospel, as Christ had not yet died.


What Is The Gospel
  
Fact: The gospel Paul preached includes Christ dying for our sins, his burial, and resurrection.
(1 Cor 15:1-4)
Fact: Christ sent his disciples to preach the gospel of the kingdom.
(Luke 9:1-6)
Fact: The twelve disciples did not understand the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ while they were preaching the gospel of the kingdom.
(Luke 18:31-34)
Conclusion based on facts: The gospel of the kingdom and Pauls gospel are different messages.
There is no room for interpreting this conclusion, and yet it is rejected and even offensive to many today.
Conclusion: "Christians" today are unaware of Bible facts regarding the gospels.
Intelligent Bible study collects facts first.


What Is The Gospel
  
// Did it ever occur to you that St. Peter was right, too?//
Of course Peter was right for the audience he was addressing.
"Ye men of Israel"


What Is The Gospel
  
//The four canonical Gospels are NOWHERE mentioned in Hebrews.//
Try studying
Heb 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. 16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. 17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.


What Is The Gospel
  
//Does Romans 5:10 come close enough?
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/18/18//
Exactly what the ascended Christ revealed to Paul addressing the boC.
Quite different than what Peter told the Nation Acts 2:23, 3:15
Your right division is definitely improving


What Is The Gospel
  
Barb, I was not trying to be sarcastic, I was seriously wondering where in the OT books of which Mt-Jn are part according to Heb.9, does Jesus say He died for your sins?


What Is The Gospel
  
Conversations between Christians who disagree shouldn't be degrading.
Communication in ministry isn't a war.
Paul says, the servant of the Lord must not strive (2 Tim 2:24).
Your goal shouldn't be to destroy, but to help and rescue. The Bible isn't a club, it's the key.
You are not always right. The Bible is always right.
Ministry communication should happen between two people with an open Bible, both searching to understand what is right.
There is an enemy, but the enemy isn't a stranger online.
Conversation wars don't edify. They corrupt real ministry.
Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers. Eph 4:29


What Is The Gospel
  
barb, just out of curiosity, does your bible stop at the book of Acts?


What Is The Gospel
  
Salvation according to the gospel of the kingdom meant deliverance from unrighteous rulers all over the world. Gods people, would be ruled by Gods Messiah in obedient Israel.
The Kingdom gospel didn't require knowledge of the cross, not to mention understanding what it meant.
Luke 9:1-2 Jesus sends his disciples to preach the kingdom gospel.
Nine chapters later, Jesus tells the disciples he must die, and they were clueless (Luke 18:34)

Pauls gospel does include the cross, moreover, it is the preaching of the cross. (1 Cor 15:1-4)
The disciples in the red letters were ignorant of the gospel of the cross. Yet the preaching of the cross is the power of God unto salvation for the church today (1 Cor 1:18).


Who Will Be Raptured
  
The Church will be raptured, when the last person has been saved and completes the boC. Israel is going to remain blinded "until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in"
The fulness of the Gentiles is the boC.
Paul said "Behold, I show you a mystery,"
It couldn't be a mystery, if it was disclosed in Zech 14 and Acts 1
Paul said "But I would not have you to be ignorant,"
They were ignorant because they were hearing something entirely new.



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