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Church On Doctrines
  
jerry6593:

Another flippantly useless comment, as usual.

You can either read what I say, and speak to all of it in context, or ignore it all and be silent. Don't just take half of it and chop it down out of context. Make up your mind.

You still have yet to say whether you drive to church, or cook, or turn lights off and on on the Sabbath. Why is that? Are you afraid of the answers?


Church On Doctrines
  
David:

Romans 6:14-15
For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

These verses implies three things: 1) WE (i.e. Christians) are not under the law, and 2) yet it IS still possible to sin. 3) however, sin does not dominate us.

We Christians are not under "The Law" (i.e. The Law of Moses), but we ARE under the Law of Christ. Jesus frequently talked about those who "keep HIS commandments". We aren't exempt from that.


God Bless President Trump
  
Nicole_Lacey:

Congress has subpoenaed many Trump insiders to testify, but Trump has instructed them to ignore the subpoenas and not show up. There are now almost a dozen of them.

Whom did Adam Schiff block from testifying? Names please.

The whistleblower did not testify before Congress. Therefore his (or her) comments are hearsay, which is why we need all the other witnesses.

Google: transcript memorandum, and check out qz's article about "Why it's wrong to call the White House Ukraine memo a transcript". Two linguists explain.
Also, the transcript's fine print says it's "not a verbatim transcript of a discussion."


How To Calculate 666
  
Nicole_Lacey:

You wrote: I see you REALLY HATE Matthew 16:19
I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in HEAVEN, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in HEAVEN.


Note whom Jesus was addressing here. Peter. NOT the Catholic Church.

We have only the Catholic Church's own word for it (and not scripture) that Peter transferred that authority to them in perpetuity.


Church On Doctrines
  
Nicole_Lacey:

As I said, Benitez ALREADY SERVED HIS TIME IN PRISON. It's not either/or.

Clinton was only investigated for cheating on Hillary once, which ultimately led to his impeachment (which failed).

Trump boasted in private, but a recording was made of that conversation, and released later. As I said earlier, search for Trump and Access Hollywood. He makes frequent mentions moving on women who were married, and grabbing women by the *****, and how they let you do anything when you're a celebrity.

For starters, you can see some of the worst lies: look up Politifact's "All Pants on Fire! statements involving Donald Trump". There are 6 pages of outrageous lies. Each lie links to a page debunking it.


God Bless President Trump
  
David:

Obama denounced Jeremiah Wright's controversial statements.

Trump embraces Paula White and her teachings, and he put her on WH staff. She pushes toxic prosperity "gospel" that goes against everything Jesus taught about wealth (you can't love God and Mammon, don't worry about possessions, deny yourself). She implied Jesus "is from Satan".

Told people in Jan. 2018 to send her their January salary or there would be "consequences", and last week to send her $229 for "prophetic instruction" to defeat their enemies.

We're supposed to trust in God to fulfill OUR needs, but she needs US instead to fulfill hers. The Bible warns about wolves in sheep's clothing selling the gospel.


How To Calculate 666
  
kathr4453:

Any religious group (including Catholics, Baptists, etc.) can be apostate, but that is no proof they are 666. They should be judged by their works, good and evil. Even Mormons do some good, by encouraging close family values.

All you say about 6, 7, 666, 777, etc. is nowhere actually taught in the Bible, other than the one verse in Revelaton. It's numerology. People make inferences and draw conclusions, but no prophet or apostle ever taught any of it.

"adds up to 666" is just flawed logic, e.g. "666 is evil. xyz is evil. Therefore, xyz is 666", uses exactly the same logic as (and is thus just as flawed as) "Lemons are fruit. Apples are fruit. Therefore, apples are lemons".


Church On Doctrines
  
jerry6593:

You have literally been ignoring everything I have ever been saying on this subject for years, so let me repeat it for you, slowly, once again.

Everyone who obeys Jesus' two commandments "Love God" and "Love your neighbor" ALREADY keeps the Commandments ANYWAY, so he doesn't need to be told each one in a list.

Great! You're going to really enjoy true Sabbath keeping.

It's amazing how, of all the commandments, you think THIS one is the most important. You're OBSESSED.

The Sabbath Commandment is the only one NOT subsumed by the Two.

You never answered my questions from before: Do you drive to church on Sunday, or cook, or turn lights on or off?


Church On Doctrines
  
Nicole_Lacey:

Clinton was impeached for 1 adultery and 1 lie. Trump cheated on all 3 wives, boasted privately but hushed it up as he knew Americans wouldn't approve, and lied 13000+ times.

Hillary stole some furniture. Trump defrauded THOUSANDS of contractors, held a charity for VETERANS but spend the money on his campaign, and Trumps a charity for KIDS WITH CANCER, but spent the money on themselves.

Like the Biblical adage, "Saul slew thousands, and David tens of thousands" - David was bigger.

Benitez served his country, and suffered PTSD that drove him to alcohol and drugs and DID go to prison. Instead of thanks and PTSD treatment, he got deported to a country he didn't know, as he left there at 3.


Church On Doctrines
  
jerry6593:

Yes, WE do not NEED the Ten Commandments - because if WE love God and neighbor WE ALREADY refrain from murder, adultery, theft, perjury etc. without needing to specifically told. I NEVER said it was ALL RIGHT to do those things. Anyone who does any of those is breaking the Law of Christ.

Atheist Pen Jillette was asked "If you don't believe in God, what's to stop you from murdering and raping all you want?", and replied, "I DO murder and rape all I want - and the amount I want is zero".

If you have no desire for adultery and theft, you do not need to be told to avoid them. Unfortunately, many DO these things, so they still need to be told.


God Bless President Trump
  
Nicole_Lacey:

There are so many lies they can only show some examples.

It's not "because they said it". Each lie is something he said on the record and can be independently corroborated by anyone who looks.

Jesus said "Forgive your enemies" and "Deny yourself and follow me". Trump says "Destroy your enemies". His pastor says "Anyone who tells you to deny yourself is of Satan".

MANY people are testifying to what Trump did, under penalty of perjury. Everyone who claims Trump is innocent REFUSES to testify under oath. That should tell you something.

There is no "transcript". It is just a memorandum, not a word-for-word transcription of the call.


God Bless President Trump
  
Nicole_Lacey:

Washington Post: President Trump has made 13,435 false or misleading claims over 993 days.

Trump doesn't attack poeple FIRST. He attacks them in REVENGE. Most recently, he attacked both decorated serviceman Alexander Vindman and Ambassador Yovanovitch because they testified to what happened instead of substantiating his lies. He never had problems with them before, but now is bad mouthing them left right and center.

Does John 8:7 apply to you when you condemn Obama?

It isn't puffing to ignore all military advisors "because you know better than they do" and launch ill-advised raid that gets innocents killed INCLUDING 9 CHILDREN (but they were already born, so I guess their lives don't matter.)


Church On Doctrines
  
Nicole_Lacey:

They're too vile to quote here, but Google: Donald Trump Access Hollywood Tape.

Prove Clinton stole from WH or body counts, or it's false witness. I.e. one of the Ten Commandments.

The majority of Americans identify as Christians INCLUDING Democrats.

Many immigrants who were promised citizenship in exchange for military service are instead being discharged and deported under the Trump administration. Google: deported veterans.

MOST food stamp recipients have jobs. The SINGLE LARGEST group of food stamp recipients is Walmart employees.

According to the Congressional Budget Office, Trump's health care "plan" will make 20+ million lose health care and 20+ thousand DIE as a result.


God Bless President Trump
  
kathr4453:

It's not just ambassadors or decorated veterans. He viciously attacks and seeks revenge against ANYONE not personally loyal to him.

His statements have been tracked and verified. Over 13000 misleading or outright false statements during his first 1000 days - over 13 lies PER DAY on average. He constantly claims he's the best at everything, better than anyone else in the world.

He lies so often, he has become delusional, believing his own lies. He makes up things as he goes along, and often contradicts himself just minutes later, because he actually believes there's no objective truth, only what comes out of his mouth. I'm surprised none of his fans take the time to scrutinize his speeches and realize this.


Church On Doctrines
  
jerry6593:

Trump not only violates most of the ten commandments, but boasts of it:
Adultery: cheated on all wives, boasts of passes at married women
Theft: defrauded thousands of contractors, boasts it's good busness practice
False witness: lies 13+ times a day
Murder: boasts he could kill someone and get away with it
Other gods: claims he's the best in the world at everything

Jesus said forgive your enemies, welcome the stranger, feed the hungry, comfort the sick, repent your sins.

Trump is obsessed with revenge, builds walls, deports immigrant veterans, cuts food stamps, cuts health care, was never sorry for anything.

His WH pastor said "anyone who tells you to deny yourself is from Satan".


God Bless President Trump
  
If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. -- Jesus of Nazareth (Matthew 16:12, Mark 8:34, Luke 9:23)

Anyone who tells you to deny yourself is from Satan. -- Paula White, 2007.

Paula thus directly implied that Jesus is Satan. One doesn't need to know anything else about her to know that she's a wolf in sheep's clothing.


God Bless President Trump
  
Paula White is a "prosperity gospel" preacher. She said that everyone should send her their January salary as a "tithe" to show their faith in God. Of course, WE're expected to rely on God to pay for OUR expenses, but she doesn't trust in God herself - she's expecting US to pay them.


How To Calculate 666
  
kathr4453:

Just what, exactly, in that covenant went against "known Prophecy" and "God's will"? Please state which part of the covenant, and which particular prophecy (BCV).

As for conspiracy theories, other headlines from Cuttingedge:

Apostate "Christian Churches" Are Continuing The Ancient Baal Worship Practice of Celebrating his Day with Easter-Themed Egg Hunts!

Bringing Saudi Arabia Down! How Can The Illuminati Destabilize Saudi Arabia In Accordance With The 'Pentagon's New Map' Strategy (2001) ?

Slowly, Surely, The Counterfeit Old Testament Commands Known As The Kabbalistic "Noahide Laws" Is Being Prepared To Be The Ultimate Law of the Land!


How To Calculate 666
  
kathr4453:

No. Conspiracy theory don't call themselves that because, like paranoid people, believe they are right. But if you look at all of their articles, it's obvious most are whacko paranoid theories, based on supposition rather than fact.

Religious conspiracy theory sites typically involve long bizarre chains of "interpreting" one scripture after another in bizarre ways that usually go against conventional wisdom, and reach bizarre and incorrect conclusions.

E.g. "prophetic" date-setting sites that predict this and that will definitely happen on some date because of esoteric scripture interpretation, or private revelations or visions from some "prophet", and are always wrong in retrospect.


God Bless President Trump
  
I find it totally unfathomable that Christians, especially Evangelicals actually follow Trump and practically worship him as The Chosen One. Pat Robertson recently said he saw a vision of Trump "at the right hand of the Lord".

What Trump believes, says, and does goes diametrically against almost everything Jesus taught, and he violates most of the Ten Commandments, and not only does that, but boasts about doing it. I actually provided lists of both of these in my previous message, but the moderators decided not to release it.



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