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God The Creator
  


ax: "Orthodoxy is adherence to standard teachings."

The Ten Commandments and the Sabbath Commandment contained therein IS standard teaching of Jesus and the Apostles. It IS Orthodoxy in verity. It is the SIGN of the one, true Creator God to whom we owe our allegiance. To whom do you show allegiance by keeping Sunday?


"Neither Jesus nor the Apostles said we should worship on Sabbath ONLY."

Neither did I. I worship God every day, but the Sabbath day is special. God has a special blessing in it. You should try it.





Christian MeToo Backlash
  


Sam: You know full well that the Marxist philosophy of redistribution of wealth involves the violation of the Commandments against theft and covetousness. Are you on God's side or not?


ax: Your actions determine what you are - not your labels. If you act like a Marxist, then, well, you get the idea.





God The Creator
  


Little Weak Hatchet: More irrelevant blather. Is that the best you can do. God says REMEMBER and you reply FORGET IT. Pathetic!

When are you and Cluny going to answer my question?




Christian MeToo Backlash
  


Haz: Marx also advised takeover of the press and entertainment, as well as the schools. All three have been successfully overrun by the lefties in the US. Oh how they whine when we fight back a little.

But, have you noticed that they don't want to be called Marxists or Communists, but rather "progressives". Some progress! Our culture is in ruins. Thank God for President Trump!




God The Creator
  


Notice how neither cluny nor ax have answered my question about how not following the example of Jesus and the Apostles in keeping the Seventh-day Sabbath can be considered "orthodox".

Notice also the obfuscation and misinterpretation of Scripture to avoid the clear pronouncement of God, Himself to "remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy". From Genesis to Revelation God is declared worthy of worship by virtue of His Creatorship, and the "sign" of His authority in this regard is the Seventh-day Sabbath.

All of the specious arguments for sparks and nailing the stone tablets to the cross are futile attempts to usurp the authority of God by instituting a counterfeit rest day.




God The Creator
  


Cluny: "Then, jerry, just why do ancient churches that had NOTHING to do with Rome or the Popes have Sunday as their main worship day?"

I already told you that they were united with Rome until 1054. That's why.

Now, how about answering my question:

How does the definition of "orthodox" square with the deviation of the day of worship from that of Jesus and the Apostles?

Please answer!




Christian MeToo Backlash
  


Nicole: "Because I love God is the ONLY reason I am CAPABLE of loving others."

You are indeed a wise Christian!

Too bad that our leftist friends don't realize that love to God requires obedience to his Commandments.

Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

All of the leftist, progressive, collectivist, socialist, Marxist, Communist ideologies are necessarily anti-Commandment in that they imply the coveting of other people's property. No wonder that Communists are anti-God.





God The Creator
  

Cluny: "Notice how neither jerry nor Samuel answer my question about how worshipping on Sunday is not a papal invention"

Two points: First, I did answer, but it wasn't posted. You yourself admitted that the Orthodox and Catholic were one until the great schism of 1054. While joined, they kept "the venerable day of the sun".

Second, The Catholic Church itself claims ownership of the sun day as its holy day, as:

"Sunday is founded, not on Scripture, but on tradition, and is distinctly a Catholic institution." - Catholic Record, Sept. 17, 1893

How does the definition "orthodox" square with the deviation of the day of worship from that of Jesus and the Apostles?



God The Creator
  


If you are confused about which day to keep, why not try keeping the day that Jesus and ALL His disciples kept - the Seventh-day Sabbath - Saturday. Of course, if you don't follow Jesus .....





God The Creator
  


ax: "jerry6593: You wrote: StrongAxe (a monumental misnomer) even seems to know of Monday (Second Day) observers.

Oh really?! When did I EVER say that?"


Short memory, eh? (Canadian) On 12/6/2018 you wrote:


"Some, especially Second Day Adventists, make a big deal about which specific day one should worhip [sic] on."

Your thesis that the Ten Commandments are not relevant is wholly contrived and lacks any scriptural authority whatsoever. Your denomination (if you have one) likely would disagree with you.




God The Creator
  


mike: Best of luck trying to convince some of these guys that "it is better to obey God rather than men". They consider the Ten Commandments as optional or not applicable to their "enlightened" minds.

Like Christ on the cross, the Sabbath of God has been nailed between two thieves - Friday by the Muslims and Sunday by the Catholics. Both are man-made counterfeits. StrongAxe (a monumental misnomer) even seems to know of Monday (Second Day) observers.

Jesus established the Sabbath at Creation, certified it in the Exodus, kept it as a man, and will keep it eternally in heaven. Why people want to depart from such clear direction is unfathomable.




Where Did Jesus Come From
  


Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Php 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth,
Php 2:11




Armed Guards At Church
  


Leftists: Other that the right to keep and bear arms, which of our other rights are you in favor of banning?

Freedom of speech? Hate speech legislation? Repercussions for use of certain words (N-word, new pronouns, LGBTQ - offending, etc.)

Freedom of religion? Can't offend Muslims, but Christians OK. Religion banned from government facilities.

Due process under the law? Destroyed by Democrats. Equal justice under the law. Innocents imprisoned while guilty elites (like Hildebeast) are never charged.


Do Democrats Steal Elections
  

There can be no peace with Muslims. Their hatred is in their religion.

Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them. Qur'an 2:191
Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood. Qur'an 9:123
When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you find them. Qur'an 9:30
The Jews and the Christians are perverts,. Qur'an 9:5
Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable. Qur'an 3:85
The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger ...- they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned. (Qur'an 5:33)
The Jews are called in the Qur'an as the progeny of apes and pigs.


Revoke The 14th Amendment
  


Cluny: "Can you give the names of any of the Isisites who are Obama's friends, Jerry?"

Why? Do you want to contact them to show your support? B.O. is friend to every ISISite.





Do Democrats Steal Elections
  


ax: That's pretty lame, depending on left-wing sources like Snopes and McCain.

Why do you defend such a barbaric threat to Western civilization as Obama?






Do Democrats Steal Elections
  


Cluny: "There is no evidence that Obama is or ever was a mahometan."

WRONG! Out of his own mouth, Obama praised his "Muslim faith". He also claimed that the Muslim call to prayer was the most beautiful sound he ever heard.

What kind of Christianity did Jeremiah Wright preach? Certainly not anything that you or me would recognize.




Revoke The 14th Amendment
  


ax: "Why would they do that?!"

Probably to stop the illegal gun-running to Obama's friends in ISIS.





Do Democrats Steal Elections
  


ax: I support Trump - not for his Christianity (although it is better than Obama's Muslim beliefs) - but rather for his performance in draining the Obama swamp and making America great again. I am not double minded, but am singularly pro-American.

I do not support morality legislation - at all. That is outside the province of government. It is the Democrats who push for "hate" crime legislation and make a man a criminal for a single word. (Isa 29:21 That make a man an offender for a word)

To be a white Christian male in America today is to be a pariah, thanks to the Democrats. Meanwhile, we are castigated for daring to criticize any of the protected class (female, LGBTQXYZ, Black, Muslim, etc.).



Where Did Jesus Come From
  


I agree with Cluny. Jesus was NOT created. He is the eternal God, one with the Father and Holy Spirit from eternity past. He is the Creator that breathed life into Adam. He was the Law-Giver on Mt. Sinai.

He abandoned His exalted throne in Heaven to take the form of man that He might pay the price for our sins with His own blood.

He IS the Archangel (Commander-in-Chief of the angels) Michael that will blow the trumpet that raises the dead at His second coming. No mere created angel can do that.





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