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God's Grace On Noah
  
Like I said, all those thing originated with Paganism.

Just stating the facts Cluny.
It's actually the 2nd commandment you all seem to ignore or erase. It was put there for a reason, separating Israel from the rest of the world.


Was Hitler Left Or Right
  
Cluny, are you saying Marxism and Fascism are exactly the same? What was your point. I must have missed it. I didn't see Ford being accused of Marxism. I compared Ford and Hitlers Fascism. In Hitlers early writings, Hitler didn't support Marxism. Ford didn't either. But we do know hundreds of thousands of Henry Fords vile propaganda garbage tracts were all over Germany in the 20''s and 30's. And AGAIN Henry Ford was a REPUBLICAN, and even tried to run for President on the Republican ticket.

So it appears EITHER Republicans CAN be fascists ...OR all a fascist has to do IN AMERICA is pretend to be a Republican. We are seeing this today.


Canada Hate Bill For Speech
  
Well we now have the verse, blessed are those who don't see but believe, stated AFTER Jesus resurrection, and is still in effect today seeing today no one can physically see Jesus Christ.

It's Gods will ...God is not WILLING that any man parish, but we see how man CAN PARISH, and that is by MANS OWN WILL...seeing we have FREE WILL.

In other words Strongaxe, that verse is refuting the false doctrine of Calvinism.

Many have seen, and believed, also not seen and believed and have fulfilled Gods will. On the day of Pentecost over 3000 in one day fulfilled Gods will. Fulfill here does not mean universal salvation.


God's Grace On Noah
  
Kathryn
Well I am glad you have finally come to that realization. Grace is not given arbitrarily, as you once believed. You now admit, Noah found Grace for the reasons you mentioned above.
---David on 5/21/19

David, I've never changed my belief on that. Maybe you just never understood what I believed. I don't believe in Calvinism....yet it appears you do. So I'm confused. God saves those who put their faith in Jesus Christ. Abel did along with all those who LIVED BY FAITH in the coming redeemer. These were called THE JUST. I've stated Hebrews 11 hundreds of times here.


Was Hitler Left Or Right
  
Haz27, facts are facts. Karl Marx was born a few years before Henry Ford, who may have influenced many of Henry Fords ideas. Therefore it appears it's not a RIGHT OR LEFT issue at all, but a philosophy that can be promoted by either right or left. HERE IN THE USA! Henry Ford, who influenced Hitler in MANY WAYS, as Hitler openly admired Henry Ford and his writings, was a REPUBLICAN.

Deal with it Haz27. You don't know everything.


God's Grace On Noah
  
Well Cluny, maybe that's why IKONS etc were forbidden in Israel, so that people didn't confuse Israel with the world. And seeing you claim the same imagery as the world but put a different definition to it is Clever, but still confusing. It Just doesn't fly.

Yea, it's like saying , " yea I wear the swastika on all my clothing and jewelry and tattoos , BUT I gave it a new meaning". Really doesn't fly!


Christian To Be President
  
mike, the idea didnt really take hold until the 70s when the Moral Majority came into existance. Then Peter Marshall wrote a book called The Light and the Glory Promoted by Dr James Kennedy pushing the idea that America was Gods NEW Promise Land and America was Gods NEW Chosen people. Go read the book. 1st. God NEVER made a Covenant with a Gentile Nation taking it away from Israel...no scripture to back up. BUT the churches want to push this idea, leaning on your scriptural ignorance ...and many have bought into this falsehood. BUT because of this falsehood its given power to the Church to pick a person they think is of GOD....some stating Trump is the modern day King Cyrus. SO SO SO WRONG. NO PROPHECY to support such nonsense.


IRS Tax Exempt Satanic Temple
  
Cluny, I was answering Strongaxe. Never said the Puritans came over during Elizabeth's time. I just stated we are long past BOTH THOSE ERA'S.


God's Grace On Noah
  
Cluny, I just looked it up again. Symbols the Orthodox use is listed online. The SUN symbol is said to represent the SUN of Righteousness. Also you all have that "seeing eye" candles, incense, and more. All these things ALSO were used by pagan religions. The All Seeing Eye came from Masonic symbolism. It is what it is. Pictures don't lie.


Was Hitler Left Or Right
  
I agree RichardC. All we need to do is look in our own back yard. Henry Ford....so antisemitic it wasn't funny. Surrounded himself with Fascist sympathizers, ran for President on the REPUBLICAN TICKET, was again a Republican. Fascism IS an Authoritan Nationalistic RIGHT WING form of government. Hitler admired Henry Ford and loved his openly twisted hatred of the Jews. Totally should study this man and the affect he had on Hitler ....and attitudes still in effect.

So WRONG HAZ27.


IRS Tax Exempt Satanic Temple
  
We're long past Queen Elizabeth and why the Puritans came to America. NOW we live in a more dangerous time witnessing the formation of a one world church, ecumenical movement we were warned about for years. In the 90' s where we had the "Evangelicals and Catholics TOGETHER 1994" ... Then Ravi Zacharias championed the Christian and MORMONS Together..Sept 11, 2004........ALL TOTALLY AGAINST SCRIPTURE. BEWARE! More dangerous than any tax exempt thingy. Jesus NEVER said to compromise our faith with CULTS for the sake of unity. Paul Peter etc warned against as well.

Ecumenical Movement:
n a movement aimed to promote understanding and cooperation among Christian churches, aimed ultimately at universal Christian unity


God's Grace On Noah
  
Mike, I understand what you are talking about. I've had this discussion with Cluny before...re the sun god. Yes it is displayed on the Orthodox paraphernalia as I referenced some sites with pictures for Cluny to look at. Mike, he simply denies it and says you are seeing things.

However to be fare, the Calvinist's Churches have that BIG ONE EYE THINGY painted on many ceilings of their churches....also a cult symbol, going way back...or possibly a Mason symbol..who knows. Many are simply ignorant of the meaning of these symbols or if they are still a deep part of their religious beliefs or not anymore. Many have just ignorantly followed a tradition for years and never questioned it.


Christian To Be President
  
No Mike you only have to PRETEND to be a Christian to get the backing and support of SOME Christians in this country. BUT.......You can only fool some of the people some of the time....there is still a remnant of faithful believers.

It's obviously becoming easier and easier as our churches are becoming more dummied down believing Christianity is the exact same doctrine as extreme right wing politics. Since our country allowes ANYONE to start a CHURCH, also allowing extreme right wing policies as its bible, ...IS AN OPEN DOOR for the anti-Christ ( pretending to be Christ) to set up shop right here in the good ol USA. We are no doubt the most gullible people on earth.


IRS Tax Exempt Satanic Temple
  
Strongaxe, this Government is already telling folks what to believe, and mandating morality. The Catholic Church is so steeped in our government, supported by Catholic FOX NEWS, with wanting to pass extreme abortion laws, strictly Catholic, where even the Evangelical Right is taken back now by these extreme abortion laws ....no exception to rape, or incest. Pretty soon we will be back to bloodshed, as we saw in Europe, with Roman Rule and the inquisition. And as I've always said ...the Catholic Church is a CULT. ..A CULT that wants to control this country.


Was Hitler Left Or Right
  
Hitler got many of his ideas from Henry Ford. Not the other way around. So what was Henry Ford? Firstly a racist. Also National Socialists had a peculiar attraction to Henry Ford. May want to start there. We think of Henry Ford as a great Capitalists..... Just some history many may want to research as well.


IRS Tax Exempt Satanic Temple
  
Its just the way our government is set up. Scientoloogy doesnt pay either. John Oliver has dedicated one of his shows to this very subject, and legally opened up a church called Our Lady of Perpetual Deductions...from his studio audience...because anyone can do it. If you can get past the crude humor, its very educational. I think you can watch it called John Oliver..TV Evangelists, on YouTube.

YES its a horrible law we have in our country. Other countries simply do not let these CULTS in their country. We for freedom of religion sake cant do that. Were a nation of CULTS...


God's Grace On Noah
  
David, Genesis 6:9 These are the Generations of Noah. Noah was( Past Tense) a JUST MAN and perfect in his generation, and Noah walked with God.
Nothing indicates it was arbitrary WHATSOEVER.

JUST in the OT is one who is JUSTIFIED BY FAITH. THE JUST SHALL LIVE BY FAITH was first stated in the OT. Hebrews 11 state this fact....BY FAITH ABEL offered a nore excellent sacrifice than Cain , BY WHICH HE OBTAINED WITNESS THAT HE WAS RIGHTEOUS God testifying of his gifts and by it he being dead yet speaketh. Now Hebrews says it was a BLOOD sacrifice, Hebrews 12:24.

TODAY we cannot offer what Abel offered, from an animal for oursin...but we can surpass this by putting our faith in Jesus Sacrifice for us.


Finish It Here May 2019
  
Strongaxe, Paul and James compliment one another as Paul in Romans 6 show obedience of what we are to do. Romans 16:24-27 OBEDIENCE OF FAITH. Galatians is steeped with obedience of faith AFTER SALVATION...RE FALLING FROM GRACE......James is not about our justification aka our initial salvation,( Ephesians 2:9-10) but our life after we are saved. Those who misrepresent Paul simply don't understand Paul.

James is talking about SANCTIFICATION, which Paul shows Romans 6-8 as our sanctification and James calls works. Paul also states WORKS OF FAITH in Romans 3.

Therefore the GOP does not obey Paul either, SIMPLY BECAUSE THE GOP IS NOT CRUCIFIED WITH CHRIST AND RAISED UP TOGETHER WITH CHRIST A NEW CREATURE. Only individuals are.


Finish It Here May 2019
  
Just as Jesus IS THE LIFE AND RESURRECTION, He is also THE SABBATH REST.."HE IS", NOT A DAY. WE ENTER HIS REST, WHEN WE ENTER Into Christ through our identification with Jesus in death and resurrection life.

Also The MYSTERY of Romans 16:25-27, Colossians 1:24-27 is Christ IN YOU, the Hope of GLORY, having translated us out of this present EVIL AGE, the one Haz27 and Jerry are still in bondage to, showing neither understand The Gospel according to the Mystery. BUT the Right Wing GOP knows NOTHING about that truth...as the GOP has nothing to do with Christianity. Satan has you both in a FILIBUSTER keeping you from growing up into Christ. VERY VERY DUMB.


Finish It Here May 2019
  
KATHR. You really need to get out of that Leftist echo chamber of hate and lies.
You have "itching ears" for such garbage, and it will only lead you astray from God's truth. Put your trust in Jesus, instead.
---Haz27 on 5/15/19

Here's proof Haz27 doesn't read people's posts here, but just sounds like a bot....

Anyway, according to Haz27 the megaphones of the left wing ALSO do not disrespect Our LORD Jesus Christ by calling him JC. praise GOD for,the Liberal Lefties who sound more Christian than Haz27.



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