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Suffer In Hell Forever
  
mike:

You wrote: cluny - your favorite verse is what the serpent said in the garden - 'you will not die, you will be like God knowing what is good & evil'. disobedience because you are the one who thinks you are God defining what is good or what is evil'

How could you possibly know what Cluny's favorite verse is? Again, you are totally making things up about people, and then accusing them of it. Do you know what that's called? It's called "bearing false witness". I seem to recall that there's a commandment against that in the Bible somewhere. Perhaps you've heard of it.


Failed System Of Socialism
  
RichardC:

Yes, and if you actually do the math, that's the average tax rate you would end up with with a marginal tax bracket at the high end - the AVERAGE tax rate for one's entire income would be closer to 40%. If you look at Bernie Sanders' proposal, the tax rate is 10% up to to $20K, 15% up to $75K, and 33% up to $250K - just like the current tax rate. It only starts to ramp up higher for people who make over $250K. Nobody who makes over $250K will starve because they pay $80K in taxes.

The reason people can't afford to live in California, NYC, and other large cities isn't because of high taxes - it's because expenses like rent, etc. are astronomically high.


Suffer In Hell Forever
  
mike:

You wrote: it's obvious who you really are obeying. for you glory to the pope not the word of God.

Why do you keep mentioning the Pope? How many times does Cluny have to say that he's Orthodox AND NOT CATHOLIC for people to understand that?

How can you possibly argue against what people say, when you don't even LISTEN to what they say in the first place?


Might Have Autism
  
john9346:

You wrote: But in your World View where there is no right and wrong its actually hypocritical to condemn anyone because truth cant be known???

I REALLY wish you would STOP trying to guess what I believe (incorrectly). I NEVER said "there is no right and wrong", and it is SLANDEROUS for you to suggest that I believe that.

"Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness". It's in the Bible that you claim guides your behavior. Look it up.

The Lord Jesus spoke frequently against LGBT even delivering them from abomination

There is not a SINGLE scripture in the Gospels where Jesus said ANY such thing, and I challenge you to show otherwise (i.e. chapter and verse).


Fire At The Notre Dame
  
Steveng:

You wrote: What are your thoughts of the fire at the Notre Dame cathedral.

I'm curious what YOUR thoughts are on this, since you thought it was important enough to post a new blog topic about it.


Might Have Autism
  
Cluny:

You wrote: This is one of the temptations that Jesus rejected--using the secular arm to accomplish spiritual purposes.

Yes, but sadly, many American (and other) evangelicals know better than Jesus, and willingly embraced the exact same temptation.


Suffer In Hell Forever
  
mike:

You wrote: lucifer broke Commandment 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.

When did Lucifer break the Sabbath? When did Lucifer commit adultery? When did Lucifer covet his neighbor's wife? If you're going to be specific and accuse someone of breaking sins by specifically calling them all out, you need to be sure there is specific evidence of each of those sins.

Yes, Lucifer is guilty of many things, but not necessarily everything you accused him of.


Not A Church Member
  
Cluny:

Jesus said, "by their fruits you shall know them". If a pastor or evangelist lives in a huge mansion and owns a fleet of limousines and several yachts and jets, yet many of his followers live in abject poverty, it's fairly easy to correctly conclude that he cares more about himself than about them.


Failed System Of Socialism
  
RichardC:

Yes, the projected price tag for Medicare for All would be $33 trillion over 10 years. That sounds pretty frightening - until you ALSO calculate the price we would pay by just continuing the way we are currently going. According to the government CMS office (Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services), our costs for health care would be $45 trillion - so the new plan would SAVE us $12 trillion.

Which would you rather do - pay $33 trillion in taxes to the government so everyone can get health care, or $45 trillion in premiums to private insurance companies so some people can get health care, and those companies can get rich?


Might Have Autism
  
kathr4453:

Most threads here over the past few years get hijacked by side discussions that start out as a related comment, but quickly go off track onto a subject totally unrelated to the blog topic - and when the blog fills up, it spills over to take over yet another unrelated blog, ad infinitum.


john9346:

Many evangelicals focus on judging others, and make rules they don't follow themselves. They think a friend to dictators who lied 9000+ times in two years, cheated on ALL his wives, paid hush money to prostitutes, defrauded employees, and has never been sorry for ANYTHING in his life is the "most Christian president ever". Read how often Jesus screamed at hypocrites, and how often Jesus mentioned LGBT.


Failed System Of Socialism
  
RichardC:

You wrote: Ok A Hypothetical : We tax the rich a the 70% Leaves the rich with 30 cents on the dollar

Again, that is the red herring capitalists throw up to try to instil fear into people. That's NOT how it works AT ALL.

A 70% marginal tax rate does not mean ALL income is taxed at 70% - only income ABOVE $10 MILLION. Income below $10M is taxed at progressively lower rates. For example, the first $10-20K is taxed at zero (your personal exemption), then everything from there up to around $75K is taxed at 10-15%, and so on up.

We had a 90% top tax rate in the 1950s-60s, and the country was at its most prosperous. We even went to the moon! Capitalists weren't whining about being poor.


Failed System Of Socialism
  
RichardC:

The rich did NOT pay "90% of their income" in the 50s and 60s. In the 50s and 60s, the highest tax BRACKET was around 90%. This means that the first part of it (i.e. your deductions, maybe $10-20K) is taxed at 0%, then the next few thousands are taxed at a slightly higher rate, then the next few, and so on. Under her proposal, only income that was ACTUALLY above 10 million dollars would be taxed at 70%. Under highest tax rates of 70% and 90%, the rich STILL get to keep rich, not just quite a filthy rich as under Reagan's lowered tax rates (and especially not the new Republican plan, under which many multi-billion corporations pay NO tax at all).


Might Have Autism
  
Steveng:

The U.S. is not the only country in the world. Far from it! The FDA and APA and pharmaceutical conglomerates might control things here, but not elsewhere in the world. Has cancer increased in the U.S. ONLY? If there's a cure, surely it would have been welcome in some other country far away from here. Show evidence that there's a cure that is verified by reputable medical officials in some other country.

When did APA call Christianity a "mental problem"? Citation please.

It is presumptuous to automatically assume how Satan is destroying creation. Christians on the left see the wilful unholy alliance between right-wing evangelicalism with right-wing politics as the evidence of Satan destroying God's kingdom.


Failed System Of Socialism
  
Jerry6593:

The very blog topic is disingenuous, as it is based on a false premise - just as "have you stopped beating your wife?" which assumes you HAVE been beating your wife - both "yes" and "no" condemn you.

Leftists don't want COMMUNISM or SOCIALISM. They want DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM. These are three COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. They don't want to eliminate private ownership. They just don't want the rich to constantly throw the poor under the bus.

Bill:

Sanders and AOC don't understand economics?! Republicans passed 1.6 trillion tax cut for the rich, and increased the deficit by 2 trillion - yet blame Social Security, rather their own ruinous policies.


Might Have Autism
  
Steveng:

YOU may have talked about drugs, but *I* did not. You begin with the position that "The American Psychiatric Association is wrong", so naturally, you think that everything they do and say is thus necessarily wrong, yes?


Stop Arresting Criminals
  
David:

The problem with "the law God writes on your heart" is it's entirely subjective, and no subject to verification by others. There are very many people in this world who very sincerely believe that they know what God has written on their hearts, and will believe that sometimes even unto death (i.e. martyrdom), yet what many of them believe is inconsistent with each other (so God CAN'T possibly be inspiring all of them, because he is not the author of confusion).

All the holy wars in history have been caused by people who sincerely believed that their god told them to murder others in the name of that god.

Besides, if that were true, why would we need a Bible, if God would just write what we need on our hearts?


Stop Arresting Criminals
  
john9346:

You wrote: But in your world view the bible isn't real

STOP SAYING THAT! I NEVER said that.

In addition, the Bereans never existed in your world view...

Again, I NEVER said that.

I wrote: Do John and Isaiah have Prophetic origins? WE don't know for sure 100%
You wrote: Sir, you don't know??? how about reading it lol

How can reading ANYTHING tell you if it's true? Only if it coincides with KNOWN TRUTH that is OUTSIDE of it. Houses are built on foundations, but the foundations CANNOT rest on any other part of the house. They must rest on something OUTSIDE the house. Muslims read the Qur'an and conclude that IS is true. How can YOU prove them wrong?


Might Have Autism
  
Steveng:

Who said anything about drugs? How like you, to criticize anything and everything, and not have anything at all positive to add. From all your posts on here over the years, it sounds like the one thing you worship above all else is Cynicism.


Stop Arresting Criminals
  
David:

Yes, one CAN (theoretically) obtain eternal life by keeping the commandments, but Paul also said that in practice, NOBODY (except Jesus) is righteous enough to be able to do so. That is why we have a different way to obtain eternal life - by grace, rather than by law. Paul even said that if we attempt to justify ourselves by keeping the law, but we offend in even one point, we are guilty of it all.

Also, when one speaks of "keeping the commandments", just which ones are we still required to keep? There are 613 of them. How many Christians keep all of them, or teach that all of them should still be kept? Do you?



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