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What Is Purgatory
John: Nicole said, "Then how do you explain "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God" rm 3:23."//

You are mistaken.

I didn't ask that question, Chria did.

//But did you continue readingto verse 28??//

But I did read up to 28 (29).

That's seems to be about another matter.

Works from Faith isn't the same as Works from the Law.

Works from Faith is like the (works) children/fruit from the Faith. A natural outcome from Faith.

As a natural outcome when a marriage couple have relations.

Works from law is different in that a person only does the work to prevent from being punished. 1 John 4:18

How God Saves People
David: Romans 2:12-15//


We are talking!

I would like to debate your first statement about false doctrine in the CC.

It's false to because of your mistaken interpretation of the doctrine.

EX: Protestants say we believe Mary is God. Evidence to them: Mary is the mother of God.

CC- Doctrine PROTECTS the Divinity of Jesus.

If she is the mother of Jesus You MUST acknowledge she is the mother of God.

It isn't any different than to say Mary is the mother of the boy.

We are not calling Mary a male or a god. We are stating fact.

She is the Mother of Jesus.
She is the Mother of a Male
She is the Mother of God.

We can say all that because Jesus is a Male and God.

I Need A Hearing Aid
Monk, I have the same problem with glasses.

I can't wear contacts and glasses hurts the back of my ears.

But, I have to start wearing them because I am putting more strain on my eyes causing them to get worst.

As for the hearing aids, it anyone needs them they are getting better and better (devices).

Smaller and almost invisible.

(I worked in ENT for 2 years)

Technology is getting better.

The problems the ENT MDs are finding is that they cause a lot of ear wax build up and infections when ear care is neglected while wearing the aids.

(as eye infections with contacts)

What Is Purgatory
Samuel: Why did Mary say GOD was her Savior if she didn't need a Savior since she was sinless? Luke 1:47//

Who said she didn't need a Savior?

Then how do you explain "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God" rm 3:23

Chria: Me - She needed God to block the Original sin.

Isn't that saving her?//

Yes, that's what the CC been saying all this time.

//"And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God." Mk 10:18//

Are you saying Jesus didn't think He was good?

//"Surely there is no righteous man on earth who does good and never sins." Ec 7:20//

Ecclesiastes was written before Mary and Jesus were born.

How God Saves People
It seems people don't believe God can save people unless He does it their way.

I Need A Hearing Aid
Okay praying.

But are you mad because you are HOH, or because the cost of hearing aids?

What Is Purgatory
Remember David couldn't build God a Temple because of bloodshed. 1 Chronicles 28:3

Even though God forgave David and cleaned him. It wasn't enough.

But God did allow David's son WITHOUT bloodshed to build Him a Temple a dwelling place for the Most High.

Why would you expect God to just clean Mary moments before Jesus dwells in her?

God wouldn't want anything different for His ONLY BEGOTTEN SON.

Remember, David only wanted to BUILD a Temple for God.

Not a palace for them both to live TOGETHER.

But, to YOU it's OKAY for God to live in the SAME place with a HUMAN cleansed moments earlier?


He deserves a BRAND NEW PLACE. Not a Place that had SIN dwelled before Him.

Finish It Here February 2019
HELLO Steveng!

Where's your apology for LYING on the Pope?

//Let me put it this way: Pope Francis is working for Satan. ---Steveng on 2/13/19

John 8:44
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out his desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, refusing to uphold the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, because he is a liar and the father of lies.

And you have the nerve to say this?:

//The ultimate commandment of God is love - as in the verb form. Unfortunately, love has practically evaporated from the face of this world.---Steveng on 2/13/19

Why don't you follow God's Love Commandment with yourself first before attacking others?

What Is Purgatory
StrongAxe, if you keep pulling blind people from a hole you saved them. But if you stopped someone a blind person from falling into the hole, didn't save her as well?

Only the method of saving changed.

As for Jesus, I guess you are asking why not get rid of the sin moments before Jesus entering Mary's egg?

I will give you an analogy.

A person has 2 plates.

1st plate new. 2nd had feces on it, but sterilized and made just as new.

No differences between the 2 in cleanliness.

Which one would you choose to eat your food from and please be honest. I would want the 1st.

So why are we asking God to do that which we do not wish to do ourselves?

What Is Purgatory
StrongAxe, because of the Original sin God had to infuse His Grace immediately at the point of her father's seed entering her mother's egg. AT THAT MOMENT God blocked the sin from entering Mary's soul. Immaculate Conception.

Not ONLY did God block the Original Sin HE infused so MUCH GRACE that Mary NEVER SINNED.

Thus providing a PURE BODY for Jesus when the Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary when was 14

Blocking the original sin WASN'T enough. An Abundance of Grace given from God prevented Mary from sinning EVER.

Did you know her parent's names combined means?

Father: Joachim - God will provide

Mother: Anne - Grace.

Put them together and you get: God will provide Grace.


Finish It Here February 2019
Mike, since there isn't any time in Jesus' Kingdom you must understand the Kingdom of God has arrived.

Matt 4:17 and Matt 6:10. In Colossian 1:12-14
St. Paul speaks about us living in the New Kingdom.

So we are living as Children of the True Kingdom of God.

So I will explain it again. Saturday is the 7th day.

But Jesus Rose on Sunday which by His Resurrection He has SECURED our home with Him in His Kingdom.

Because Jesus ROSE the day AFTER Saturday we will NOT START OVER in the OLD kingdom.

Not the 1st day, BUT THE 8TH DAY!

Sunday is the 8th day.

We are in the New Kingdom Age.

Luke 5:39 applies to you if you celebrate the Sabbath on Saturday.

Luke 5:38 applies to the CC

Mark Of The Beast Survival
Samuel: We will have to do what many of the original Christians did. Run and hide.//

Yes, but you left out the most important virtue the original Christians did.

When found they DIED for Jesus.

So, we can run and hide, but die if found.

Luke 18:8

Matthew 10:33
But whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father in heaven.

May God have mercy on me and grant me the GRACE and STRENGTH not to deny Jesus in order to keep my life on earth an extra minute.

What Is Purgatory
Samuel, the CC never and doesn't believe that unbaptized babies goes to hell.

Plus, why do Protestants keep saying that babies don't commits sins?

Who said they did? Not the CC.

Only Protestants make up this straw man to knock it down.


Just move to original sin. That will suffices.

StrongAxe, Hebrews believed life was in the blood. Abraham's blood in their veins. Life promised by God with His Covenant made with Abraham. Genesis 17

So that's why Jesus said in John 6:53 you have to Eat and Drink His Body and Blood to have ETERNAL LIFE.

Jesus only had Mary's blood that came from Abraham from Adam.

So that's why God had to purify Mary's blood line at her conception.

Finish It Here February 2019
Mike:, Did you not read Jerry's statement to me?

Again, I didn't say God rested on Sunday. I said Jesus ROSE on Sunday.

God doesn't have time we do. He CREATED time for us. Please follow me.

There ISN'T time in His realm of Being.

So, When He Rose He Rose into His Realm of Being.

Which is the 8th DAY.

John 18:36 Jesus answered, MY KINGDOM is NOT of this world. If My Kingdom were of this world.

Remember the Jesus conversation with the Thief on the cross?

Luke 23:42-43 he was saying, "Jesus, remember me when You come in Your KINGDOM!" And He said to him, "Truly I say to you, TODAY you shall be with Me in Paradise."

His Kingdom is His Realm.


What Is Love
StrongAxe, are you claiming there ISN'T life after death?

Have you forgotten your Catholic teaching of Purgatory?

You love to play with words.

You NEVER use that word with Abortion.

//"Murder" is killing someone who is not deserving of being killed.//

No. 'Murder' and 'Kill' are two different words for the same thing caused by Humans.

The 1st is unjustified taking someone's life.

The 2nd is justified of taking someone's life.

The reason why God doesn't kill or murder is because He gives us life that NEVER ends.

Changing from one 'State' to another 'State' is a not a if but when.

God making the 'when' sooner to us doesn't turn the 'if' to a 'certainty'.

Finish It Here February 2019
Sept 29, 2015 **Did Pope Francis Really Say Jesus Was a Failure?** Catholic Answers

*He was ADDRESSING a group of priests and religious, Pope Francis said: We can get caught up measuring the value of our apostolic works by the standards of efficiency, good management and outward success which govern the business world...But the true worth of our apostolate is measured by the value it has in Gods eyes...The cross shows us a different way of measuring success.

OURS is to plant the seeds: God SEES to the fruits of our LABORS.

And if at times our efforts and works seem to fail and produce no fruit, we need to remember that we are followers of Jesus and his life, HUMANLY SPEAKING, ended in failure, in the failure of the cross.

Denominational Church Missing

Thank you.

But, the 10 Commandments was given to Moses.

Given Jesus speaks about the Chair of Moses not the Chair of Abraham. Matthew 23:1-3

Abraham followed the command of leaving his own country, Covenant of Circumcision and willing to sacrifice Issac.

But, I reasoning that the Commands are not part of the Commandments because of the 6th (7) Commandment.

Abraham gave his wife to Abimelech. Only God saved Sarah NOT Abraham. Genesis 20:2-3

I am not saying Abraham didn't worship God.

I believe he worshipped God everyday.

What Is Purgatory
StrongAxe, as to Kathr's vile statement I want to reason with you.

When you read Gen 3:20 Adam called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all living.

Did it EVER across your mind that it meant Eve had relations with her sons?



To most DECENT people it hadn't either.

So I said Mary was the mother of the living because of Matt 1:16.

I CLARIFIED myself again when Kathr got it wrong. In 'Penalty For Sin Is Death' Blog. Read our blogs

I said Mary was the TRUE mother of the living. Because JESUS give us LIFE and Mary is His mother.

So when you compare Gen 2:20 to Matt 1:16 you see the connection.

Only a FILTHY MIND like Kathr THINKS otherwise.

What Is Purgatory
StrongAxe: Sin was transmitted from the father, via direct descent through Adam.//

Adam is the original because Eve wasn't created from dirt but from Adam. If Adam DIDN'T eat the fruit ONLY Eve would die. Another woman would be created from Adam's bone

Anyway, Mary's father is Joachim. You are not suggesting that fathers DON'T transmit sin to daughters?

By your logic Mary would have obtained original sin.

Unless you do claim daughters are skipped. If not thus my question

//How could SHE be born sinless if her MOTHER were not sinless,//

Life doesn't START at birth as our society loves to claim.

Life starts at conception.

Thus, God had to act FIRST with Mary before providing a Body for Jesus.

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