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What Is Purgatory
  
Again Nicole, your post is rediculous. There is no scripture to back up your FABLE, and God only saves tnrough Jesus death and resurrection. Only those written in the Lambs Book of Life.

You are a heretic of heretics.

Just because you know about the birds and bees, doesn't make you an expert on SIN, or how you THINK God works. No one here supports your THEORY FABLE FAIRYTALE, except those of your CULT.

Also Mary is asleep in the Lord, not floating around space talking to anyone. THAT is a demon.


What Is Purgatory
  
There is no such thing as God BLOCKING SIN in someone's sperm. That's hilarious. First Nicole needs a lesson on exactly why SIN is. It's not a NOUN, it can't be blocked, there are no vaccines for it.

The only way for God to have a sinless Mary, would be to form her out of the dust of the earth, like the first Adam, and breath life into her. Then God could take Jesus out of her side. Then the two could procreate starting a whole new sinless race, where Mary could then be called the NEW Mother of the Sinless.

Come on Nicole....no scripture says BLOCKED or even suggests what you are saying. If it's that important God would have it recorded in scripture. You're now no different than Joseph Smith and his made up religion.


I Need A Hearing Aid
  
Glad you don't need hearing aids Monk. Not only are they expensive, even for retired, they are uncomfortable. So many seniors refuse to wear them even though they need them.


What Is Purgatory
  
Here's the thing ..."sin". is not some GERM, that was blocked from this one or that one. Just like those who say sin dies, which is wrong, we die to sin....Mary inherited DEATH, from Adam 1 as we see Mary DIED. If God BLOCKED sin from entering Mary or what ever.... Mary would still be alive today.

And there is NO SCRIPTURE supporting Nicole's FairyTale.

Eve is STILL the Mother of the living, as all human life still proceeds from Adam and Eve.

Our NEW BIRTH ...SPIRITUAL BIRTH comes from GOD....and Mary has no part of that. Mary is not part of the Trinity. And her children she had after Jesus was born are not in my Geanology or Nicole's.


What Is Purgatory
  
Nicole, Eve had relations with the first ADAM and is called the mother of all living. Eve did not give Adam 1 life. How is Mary equated to Eve? Eve had relations with Adam 1.... So who is The Last Adam? It's YOU who make this vile equation by making some comparison NOT THERE .

God gave Adam 1 life . THe WORD made flesh,already existed. So Mary did not give GOD life Nicole. So she is not, nor does any scripture say Mary is NOW the mother of the living. She was the mother of Jesus made Flesh. Jesus died, and GOD raised Him from the dead...the FIRST BORN Of all creation. Mary has nothing to do with my first birth or second birth.

It's YOUR analogy that is VILE Nicole. NO DOCTRINE says what you are saying.


What Is Purgatory
  
Good point Strongaxe. Now the "caduceus", is not the serpent God asked Moses to make. And the healing in whe desert was for something God inflicted on those who rebelled, SINNED against Him, it wasn't some special medical whatever carried around for sickness SYMBOLIZING HOW WONDERFUL DOCTORS WERE. This can be shown in John 3:14-17.

The "caduceus" is something altogether different and also part of Greek mythology . To say they are the same thing is exactly mixing paganism with the Word of God. It's exactly what the RCC did to get the Greeks to convert to Catholicism, by replacing Diana with the Virgin Mary.

I stand by my comment.


What Is Purgatory
  
Only in your dreams Cluny. The serpent God asked Moses to make out if bronze was never two serpents intertwined surmounted with wings. That goes back to Greek mythology, which much of the Orthodox and RCC are intertwined with, including the virgin Diana, Mary was intertwined with. Is this your nonbiblical junk you all continue to incorporate into Scripture?

Thanks for clarifying that...which many of is already know. Mixing paganism with Christianity is an abomination to the Lord. Just ask Solomon!


What Is Purgatory
  
Nicole, it's you and your comment that Mary is the life giver that is not cute. Obviously you did not read, grasp, or comprehend the post. Trying to blow smoke and take it in another direction ONLY YOU did by your suggestion, I'm glad offends you, and maybe now you will REREAD and THINK THROUGH what I posted.

Mary is the mother of Jesus in the flesh. Mary is not our mother of the New Birth, because our new birth is not one of the flesh....Mary is NOT the mother of our NEW BIRTH in the Spirit. She is not part of the Trinity and never will be. We are hidden with God IN CHRIST sealed with the Holy Spirit. Mary has ZIP ZERO to do with my new Birth.

Get it now Nicole? Shame on you for your BLASPHEMY!


Finish It Here January 2019
  
Nicole, Because of Mary I am able to die with Christ( the purposes of Christ being made flesh, not only to take our sin but die in our place, but also to identify with Him in death.) Our Resurrection life IN CHRIST has to do with the Father ALONE, and being Born Again of the SPIRIT is not of Mary but of God ALONE. So AGAIN, GOD is the GIVER OF NEW LIFE IN CHRIST. And WE, the Bride of Christ are taken from His side, bone of HIS Bone, Flesh of HIS Flesh, just as Eve was taken out of the first Adam. Mary again is not the giver of THIS LIFE, just as Eve was not the giver of Adam1's life. Mary was not taken from Jesus side. And we are not the offspring of Mary and Jesus..YUCK

So yes I do actually get it. You sweety do not.


What Is Purgatory
  

Nicole, Because of Mary I am able to die with Christ( the purposes of Christ being made flesh, not only to take our sin but die in our place, but also to identify with Him in death.) Our Resurrection life IN CHRIST has to do with the Father ALONE, and being Born Again of the SPIRIT is not of Mary but of God ALONE. So AGAIN, GOD is the GIVER OF NEW LIFE IN CHRIST. And WE, the Bride of Christ are taken from His side, bone of HIS Bone, Flesh of HIS Flesh, just as Eve was taken out of the first Adam. Mary again is not the giver of THIS LIFE, just as Eve was not the giver of Adam1's life. Mary was not taken from Jesus side. And we are not the offspring of Mary and Jesus..YUCK

So yes I do actually get it. You sweety do not.


Penalty For Sin Is Death
  
Nicole, no, that is stretching the truth to be what you want it to be. In Adam all die. Eve was in Adam , and so is Mary, you and me. And IN CHRIST ALONE will one be made alive. we are made alive IN CHRIST when we identify with Him in death and that then results in being raised up together with HIM a New Creature. Jesus, the last Adam is that life giving Spirit.

Mary is the Mother of Jesus in the flesh who died.

I'm afraid it's you Nicole who does not understand.

I know what you are teaching, but you have it all wrong. Again you take away from the Lord who gives NEW LIFE....Mary does not.


What Is Purgatory
  
There are those who preach the Cross, and let the Lord do His work through His Word, working in the mind and conscience of those who are open to the Spirit. ( the WORD OF GOD IS LIVING AND POWERFUL AND SHARPER THAN A TWO EDGE SWORD, piercing between soul and spirit, bone and marrow.......AND Then there are those who use their own words, not scripture, and use the Cross as a weapon to beat another black and blue with, ( much like Constantine's MO, that only ended in murdering one another) never true conversion.

Some think they are doing Gods work, but are not. They are actually a hindrance to those who do share the Gospel.


Penalty For Sin Is Death
  
Also Nicole and the RCC or whatever fail to see the end of Revelation that Jesus is the offspring of DAVID...yes, and of the seed of Abraham. The seed as in one is Christ. No scripture shows that Mary was anything exceptional except that as prophesied she was from the line of Judah through David's side. Also Mary's geanology takes her all the way back to Adam showing her lineage through humans...not gods.

I do believe there are pagan beliefs in Madonna and Son , re Zeus etc that may be where they get the part about Mary not in scripture.


What Is Purgatory
  
There's no such thing as purgatory either Nicole, just more abuse, leading people to think if they pray hard enough or give enough money that will save a soul. WRONG.

You all just need to STOP YOUR LYING.


Penalty For Sin Is Death
  
Forgiven and covered are addressed to all those sinners SAVED by their faith in Jesus Christ.

Nicole, what Joseph Smith taught is also not in the Bible. What JW's teach much is also not in the Bible. What we do know is we consider these CULTS. What makes you any different?

You are free to believe any cultish belief you want Nicole. maybe Mary was made out of Marshmellows too.

Who ever was to be the chosen virgin would be someone favored and blessed, but it still does not say AND GOD WAVED HIS MAGIC WANT AND MARY BECAME SINLESS AS GOD IS SINLESS.
I think that would be important enough to put in scripture.


What Is Purgatory
  
Like I said Nicole, just like there are pedophile's in the Catholic Church telling children WHO KNOWS WHAT, to take advantage of them, we already know about that now don't we??? There are also priests who try to pull things over on others in other situations. SO Get real Nicole. We already know the thousands upon thousands of kids telling the truth that I'm sure if you were in charge would call the kids liars too.

SHAME ON YOU NICOLE.

These kind of things go on in EVERY denomination PERIOD.


Penalty For Sin Is Death
  
Sorry Nicole, but "no scripture" says Mary was protected from original sin. You cannot find any scripture stating so. Only your IMAGINATION.

God said all that was needed was a virgin birth where the Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary then that's all God required. He never asked YOU all to over think it, and come up with your own plan. It's blasphemy to add to Gods word, or doubt His word.

It simply shows your Jesus is not the Jesus of scripture. And your Mary Is not the Mary of scripture.


What Is Purgatory
  
Clunky, praise God we live in a FREE Country where people can make choices according to their own conscience. If in both these cases their conscience directed them elsewhere, that's between them and the Lord. Not between your sarcasism and them.

I said in general. You said you were what..a baptist, and changed......to Orthodox. You too are free to make that choice.

And Clunky, not everyone lives in an area where there are several this or that churches to attend. Some small towns may only have ONE CC, or ONE Baptist Church.

Please think through before your sarcastic replies.


What Is Purgatory
  
Thousands and thousands of dollars extorted? Dragging on for three years???? ....Civil courts don't do that Cluny. It was clearly extortion. They both left the CC, married and joined a Methodist Church. Just saying there are some very BAD priests out there exploiting folks and are not mainstream. Also strange things in Protestant churches. So when someone tells of a peculiar incident, don't discard it. But also don't blame the whole denomination for a bad apple.



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