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Might Have Autism
John are you saying Christians Did stop Hitler and Stalin? Or are you saying they did not? Did the RCC stop Hitler?

Not sure what your point Christians stopped either. And yes, I've read all of Timothy 1and 2 and All of Philippians. It doesn't change those verses.

You are deflecting .....

Judas went with the Politics, and lost big-time . Jesus said My kingdom is not of this WORLD. John chapter 6 goes far deeper than your "God Picked ME" verses.

Where I Was Saved
David, these are works of faith. We see already the foundation of salvation has already been laid. Now we build upon it wood hay and stubble, or GOLD SILVER AND PRECIOUS STONE. Now it will be tested by fire, some will burn up, and others remain, yet no one loses their salvation. Just like Jesus said, re fruit, that we bear fruit... some 100, some 70% some 30%, but those who plant on the good ground ..(the Good ground is CHRIST) will bear something...yet we are not saved by our fruit.....we are REWARDED....

Noah didn't lose his salavation because he got drunk after building the ark.

But each man will be accountable how he builds. I've been building for over 60 years. And WHAT, you want me to scrap it and follow YOU? NO!

Might Have Autism
John,just obeying here. I guess you WEREN'T chosen???? Exactly what were you chosen for...the opposite??? Can you Prove that by scripture??

2 Timothy 2:4
4 No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life, that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

Where I Was Saved
Those IN CHRIST, God no longer sees in the Flesh, but in the Spirit. And 8:13. Interestingly enough MORTIFY means it's the work of the Holy Spirit in us that mortifies the deeds of the flesh....

I DIE DAILY...2 Corinthians 4:10.....ALWAYS CARRYING ABOUT IN OUR BODY THE DYING OF CHRIST so that the life of Christ is manifest in us....again this is what Galatians 2:20-21 states as well.

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Romans 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

Stop Arresting Criminals
Silly girl, YOU are the Pharasee here. Yes Jesus and Paul rebuked the Pharisees, just as I rebuke you.
Too funny

Where I Was Saved
Again, I am not talking about the Law of Moses, but to the New covenant God puts into our minds and writes upon our hearts. Sometimes the Law may be, Do not Lie, and sometimes it may be to take care of the needs of a stranger. (James 2:15-18)
---David on 4/19/19

And as I have been saying this is the LAW OF FAITH. By FAITH Noah built an Ark, BY FAITH Abraham....BY FAITH Rahab....

This is all of what Romans 4 is about which Paul begins to explain starting in Romans 3:27. I've never argued against that.

AND I'm not talking about the WOF false doctrine on faith.

Might Have Autism
The Nationalist Christian Church In Ukraine, politics have taken over religion and nationalists are turning WWII Nazi criminals into religious icons.
Ukrainian nationalist church proud to follow in Nazi ...

Orthodox Church of Ukraine (OCU), he is proud to be called a Banderite, meaning a follower of the controversial Stepan Bandera, who he considers a genius, creating the Ukrainian nation and spirit.

Positive Christianity (German: Positives Christentum) was a movement within Nazi Germany which mixed ideas of racial purity and Nazi ideology with elements of Christianity. Adolf Hitler used the term in article 24 of the 1920 Nazi Party Platform, stating: "the Party represents the standpoint of Positive Christianity".

Failed System Of Socialism
I agree with Steveng, we paid into social security because we WORKED all these years and paid into this retirement plan out of our hard earned income. It's not welfare , and I resent anyone who says it is. I'm also retired, work PT, do a lot of volunteer work and help with my Grandchildren after school. Folks who have not retired yet make such silly comments.

Also we have welfare reform, so it's not so easy to get on and stay on welfare. It's not a retirement program either, because you can't just stay on it till you die. But it is there when someone hits hard times. I guess places like Russia would just let you starve in the streets.

Stop Arresting Criminals
Melody, I don't know what your problem is, but your snarky remarks only show how ignorant you are concerning sound doctrine. Your selfrighteous judgement with your hateful remarks only show how thinned skinned you are when someone disagrees with you. Carnal Christians like yourself cause more damage to the Church than the unsaved do.

We simply have different levels of learning. Your still drinking milk, and are having issues rightly dividing the word of truth. I rebuked your very first post and it hurt your feelings...and your FLESH is showing. Please grow up, or better yet, use self control.

Stop Arresting Criminals
Steveng/ David, the Bible is clear what the GRACE that brings salvation is about. And the Book of Galatians is the most detailed doctrine there is telling us the difference between GRACE vs the LAW, what it is to fall from Grace.....( going back under the law after beginning in the Spirit) Gal 3. And Galatians 2:20-21 clarify that again.

So David I reject YOUR discombobulated definition of GRACE. You David have rejected EVERYTHING I have posted in Galatians...arguing constantly against it.

I believe in the Rapture of the CHURCH, and there is no back door for those who are not in the BOC during this dispensation OF GRACE who are saved by faith in Jesus Christ who died for our sin. AND Both of you reject that Jesus is GOD.

Where I Was Saved

1) The CHURCH for one will be judged at the Judgement seat of the FIRST RESURRECTION. We will be given rewards, or loss of rewards. NO one saved during this CHURCH AGE will face the second death or the Great White Throne Judgement.

2) The thief was with Jesus before Jesus was raised from the dead. In Luke, you will see Abraham's bosom / Paradise where the OT saved were, BELOW were the LOST. When Jesus rose from the dead He lead Captivity captive and took all those OT saints NOW MADE PERFECT to Heaven ...where the veil was rent...and the way into the HOLY OF HOLIES was opened.

Please study to show yourself approved before misleading others with your snarky comments.

Might Have Autism
Actually the Christians in Germany joined a Nationalistic Chrurch, where those who did not were persecuted by so called Christians and Hitler. This is what is happening in the USA with all this Nationalism going on as well, backed by the apostate church.

Also my faith is not in someone's statement of faith. Statements of faith are not THE WORD OF GOD, but mans twist on his or her denominations of what they think scripture is LOL to you too John. The Church Fathers are not the Apostles or those chosen by God to REWRITE scripture, as your John Calvin is not either.

Where I Was Saved
David, here the thing, the Blood of Jesus washes away our sin, however the identification with Jeuss in death and resurrection life does away with the OLD MAN. That's the part you seem to be missing. There is therefore now no condemnation to those IN CHRIST who walk after the Spirit, AND clearly says we are no longer in the flesh BUT THE SPIRIT if we are CHRISTS.

Melody, NO ONE came into the presence of God until AFTER Jesus rose from the dead. There are different levels of Heaven...Paul called it the 3rd heaven. You shouldn't talk at all Melody. OT Saints were in Paradise or Abrahams Bosom and MOVED to the Highest Heaven after Jesus Rose from the Dead. Hebrews 12.

Might Have Autism
1 Corin 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Here is the list....but if anyone wants to put sin in some sort of order of worse to not so's not the first on the list...AND AMERICA IS NOT THE KINGDOM OF GOD. Flesh and blood will not inherit the Kingdom of God.

So before taking the mark of the beast...make sure YOUR BEAST is not guilty of any of the above either.

So if those who think our job is to purge sin from the earth..YIKES!

Fire At The Notre Dame
I'm so glad no one died. This will not be the last of old old structures falling in some form or fashion. There will come a day when everything on this earth will burn including this old earth itself.

Steveng, what are your thoughts about that?

Where I Was Saved
Then David, I highly recommend you do just that....confess that you are a sinner ...let the Lord know you cannot save yourself, that only through Jesus Christ who died for our sin can take away sin. Then totally surrender your life to the Lord, being Crucified with SET FREE FROM SIN, and walk in the NEWNESS of the risen Christ IN YOU. PUT ON CHRIST.

When you have done this, and find you are a NEW CREATURE IN CHRIST created in righteousness and Holiness...yes HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS and HOLINESS, I guarantee you will be taken to a place far above paradise...right into the very presence of God ...translated out of this present evil world right into the Kingdom of His Son Jeuss Christ.

Hope you make it David.

Might Have Autism
Well John, you are correct....because scripture says we are no longer part of this world system. But I understand you being a Calvinist may not believe OUR JOB is to preach the Gospel to the lost and all those you mentioned. I believe also the woman who rides the beast is the apostate counterfeit church riding on the back of political powers. But then again, your doctrine has a different understanding on Revelation too.

I do find it curious that you believed God decides everything, and there is no free will, yet you believe your free will to enter politics and pushing your politics will change things. Care to explain?

Where I Was Saved
Melody, your word are empty words blowing in the wind, and not grounded in truth. Yes, they will fall by the wayside, but the Word of the Lord will endure FOREVER.

Only Satan would try to shame someone who is defending the Gospel of Grace.

I've been translated out of this world Into to the Kingdom of His Beloved Son...Colossians 1:13. So not sure what kingdom you are talking about.

You're in the wrong Kingdom Melody. Railing against sodomites IS NOT The Gospel of GRACE either....where you have failed miserably. The only hatefulness I see here is coming from you....

Might Have Autism
Strongaxe, that's why FINISH IT HERE threads are created. Just because a thread is closed, should not give anyone the right to stalk around the subjects looking for where you posted next just to continue. If the blogs didn't have a limit, maybe it wouldn't matter.

Where I Was Saved
David, you need to get over yourself. Not everything is about YOU. We're not discussing YOU. We're discussing Salvation by GRACE through FAITH. You are bullying those who believe differently as you, and them by some delusion of grandeur step into the Light of the Holy Spirit and make things about YOU, and how YOU are right and how YOU need to inspect someone's faith. You've made everything about YOU. This is what BULLIES DO.

I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Grace .....and no one needs YOU in any way shape or form. You are a false teacher, jumping around here and there mixing all sorts of single verses and trying to make them all fit into your cherry picked doctrine.

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