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God The Creator
  
strongaxe - determine circumstances of worship & object of worship.
when God RESTed on the 7th day sabbath he rested from His work of Creation - that makes him a Creator & when christ finished His work of redemption, He also RESTED on the 7th day sabbath. so what is 7th day sabbath points to in relation to REST? A CREATOR & REDEEMER. what about Sunday 1st day? did GOD rested? Luke 23:56- says that after the people rested on the 7th day, they worked on the 1st day continue the embalming of christ but he was not in the tomb - that is work. nowhere in the bible says worship the 'resurrector'


God The Creator
  
strongaxe - Christ himself said 'I did NOT come to ABOLISH THE LAW but to fulfill or to PLEROO to CARRY INTO EFFECT until heaven & earth pass. so has heaven & earth pass? NO. so the LAW of God is in effect not abolished.


God The Creator
  
cluny I did not deflect - believers who worship on 1st day are worshipping the sun. what about you you did not answer if God ever rested, sanctified the 1st day? Paul never worshipped on the 1st day.


God The Creator
  
cluny - then why did constantine call 1st day -on the venerable day of the SUN - venerable means deserving to be venerated. you keep on 'glorify to jesus christ' yet you cannot answer one simple question Did God ever rested, sanctify 1st day, made it holy. don't give the 1cor16:2 Act 20:7 bec those verses NEVER said anything about God sanctifying the 1st day. if Paul did then he is lying bec. Paul wrote rm 1:25 - changed truth into lie worship the CREATION/CREATURE than the Creator & EZE 8:16 - worshipping the sun is abomination in the eyes of God.


God The Creator
  
is the fire created intended for more work? surely the early believers lit a fire to light & warm their homes on a sabbath. common sense. if they were gathering the wood, then that is work or lighting a fire to do MORE work then that is against God's commandments. I see what you are doing, you're looking to 'legalize' something. btw, if Paul said to make any day holy, then he is lying - Rms 1:25 & committed abomination Eze 8:16 - 25 men worshipping the sun is abomination to God.


God The Creator
  

I prepare my food on friday to it's easy to have meals on sat. I just found out that shrimp is 45% cholesterol that is why I stopped eating shrimp. Did I say flip a switch on fridays? that's how the pharisees legalize anything on the sabbath & christ saw that & i've been there. not only did I experienee legalism like 'money is the root of evil it is a sin' or 'self is a SIN' or 'deciding for yourself is sin', they are NOT.' why is there a sunday law in Poland where you cannot buy & sell. if 1st day is 'freedom from the law', then why there's NO BUY & SELL?


God The Creator
  
yes you are. you said that WE are NOT UNDER THE LAW. Paul is NOT talking about the 10 commandments. when you transgress the LAW of God, YOU ARE UNDER THE LAW OF SIN DEATH. the serpent told adam - YOU will be like GOD knowing good & evil. that is transgressing the Law of God. are they under the law of God when they did NOT EAT the fruit or obeyed God? NO. we are under the law ONLY when we transgress it. if you say that we are NOT under the law, that means christ abolish it. how can you define sin without the Law of God. Paul still talks about the commandments of God. it is NOT abolished


Should Churches Be Taxed
  
nicole - you are not the only one who did 'volunteer' work for christ. I did that too bec. pastors will quote 'put God first & he will bless you'. I helped clean, fix, helped for nothing. I saw the hypocrisy of pastors. you do volunteer work but pastors should be paid well, double salary when the preach the gospel.


God The Creator
  
strongaxe - you don't advocate sin but we don't need the 1-4 commandments especially the sabbath? what...we don't need the 4th commandment but observe the 1st day sunday. you are inconsistent. sunday is NOT God's HOLY day. He specifically said 7th day not 1st day sunday. we need the 10 commandment to define what sin is. christians cannot define what sin is. they just accuse you - that's sin. did I steal, false witness, covet neighbors good? God created & redeemed you & rested on the 7th day. honor him on the day not constantine


God The Creator
  
strongaxe - Paul said 'it's ok to treat one day holy'
Rms 14 - what does it say? v 2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.

3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not, and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.

4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

where does it say HOLY? it says 'TO EAT OR NOT TO EAT all things or herbs'
again YOU'RE BUSTED twisting the scriptures


God The Creator
  
strongaxe - the 10 commandments are nailed to the cross? then why did Paul say romans 6:23 - For the wages of SIN is death. - Sin is the transgression of the LAW. when people worship other gods, idols, & worship the creation no creator - breaking 1st, 2nd 3rd 4th commandments. adam wanted to be god that is why it resulted in spiritual DEATH. Paul says in Romans 6:12 -Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. - that is why we aren't under the law of SIN & DEATH but accepted grace. you are advocating sin.


Should Churches Be Taxed
  
nicole
not bragging? then why did you accuse me of NOT being a christian just bec. churches should be TAXED. christ said that 'give to cesar what's cesar'. that is the problem with catholics - salvation by works, incldg indulgence - I am saved bec. 'I did this or that' you're NOT. RCC also practice indulgence - remission of sins from purgatory in exchange for money.


God The Creator
  
strongaxe - so where does it say in the bible that the 1st, 3rd day 6th day is HOLY? col 2:14 specifically says sabbath days not 1st day 2nd day 6th day. isaiah 58:13 - if you turn your foot from breaking the SABBATH (not 1st 4th) from doing your pleasure on MY HOLY day. you are cherry picking & preaching YOUR doctrine


God The Creator
  
strongaxe - what is colossians 2:16? believers in colossae (turkey) observe the feasts of the LORD, the HOLY day of the Lord (7th day sabbath) not 1st day sunday. the pagans who practice ascetism ( denying & avoidance of indulgence) criticize the believers for celebrating the FEASTS of the LORD. the believers are forbidden to 'party'. that is why PAUL said 'let not these men criticize (judge) you believers who observe the LORD's day/feasts. it is not about judging the 1st day sunday is NOT HOLY day. constantine did not enact the 1st sunday law. GOD never sanctified, rested on 1st day in colossians 2:16


God The Creator
  
did you read the question strongaxe? colossians 2:16, estemeth one day does NOT say anything GOD sanctifying, blessing, making 1st day Holy. it does not say that 1st day is GOD's HOLY DAY. God speaks not man.


Should Churches Be Taxed
  
btw I'm not like you bragging about 'charity'. mt 6:3 says don't let your left hand know what your right hand is doing'. that's what Paul said 'not by works so that NO ONE can BOAST.' I am not boasting my charities around so I people will say I am a christian. that's the problem with roman catholic church. salvation by works - 'I am saved bec. I DID THIS, I DID THAT!' ARROGANCE including purgatory & indulgance is not biblical -exploiting the poor. finally, mk 12:17 give to cesar what's cesar's - christ said that not me. why don't you read the bible before you accuse people 'you are not a christian' but the pope hates the bible bec. it exposes their lies. what an antichrist


Should Churches Be Taxed
  
nicole - I use to give to Chrildren christian fund pat robertson's flying hospital. what happened - by the time the needy receive the money all the administrative cost ate the 'donation'. these NON-profit does give 10% to the God bec. they keep the 90%. the story of Ananias & sapphira is an example of money being POCKETED by these greedy 'christian' non-profit organization. they don't care about the poor. if they do, they will give 90% & receive 10%.


Should Churches Be Taxed
  
what's the question Nicole should churches be taxed? YES! but televangelist love their money & title that is why these greedy televangelist like RObertson, falwell, franklin graham vote for GOP bec. of tax cuts & they call christianity NON-PROFIT but they earn millions. before you accuse 'you are not a christian' understand the question 1st. copeland brags he's a billionaire while children are starving. what happened to 'don't store treasures on earth?' the church should NOT stick their noses on politics bec. one will influence the other to carry out their agenda. you direct that accusation to these false PROFITS.


Should Churches Be Taxed
  
I've heard pastors preach - DO NOT WORK for MONEY! work as if you are working for GOD! I even heard pastor Stanley say - 'be contented w/ $12.00/hr' bec. that's what GOD gave you. pat robertson even receive 'faith based initiative' -money from war criminal bush. HYPOCRITE!! Pastors love their money that they did not work for, christianity is a business, God is a merchandise for profit & these churches claim to be NON-profit but they make millions of $$$. somebody should expose these hypocrites like CHRIST DID!



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