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How God Saves People
  
Steven
Interesting point, and not all together improbable. But this man has been identified as a thief. What do you make of the teaching below?

(1 Corinthians 6:9-10) Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God? Be not deceived: Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor the effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners shall inherit the Kingdom of God.


What Is A Doctrine
  
Kathryn
If Jesus gave Paul a different gospel for the gentile follower, as you believe, and you are Pauls follower, do you follow the statute below, when you attend church?

(1 Corinthians 14:34) Let your women keep silence in the churches, for it is not permitted unto them to speak, but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.


How God Saves People
  
Nicole, was the thief on the cross baptize with water?---Steveng

Steven
When Jesus promised the thief, paradise, was he talking about heaven?

If he was, why did Jesus say,Today you will be with me in paradise? Was Jesus in heaven for the 3 days, before his resurrection?
If your answer is No, the paradise Jesus promised the thief heaven, could not have been heaven.

Something to think about?


What Is A Doctrine
  
David, as In the OT if you broke one part of the law you sinned against all the law.---Nicole_Lacey

True,
The Law was changed for this very reason, for it made no one perfect,(Hebrews 7:11). What does it mean to be perfect?

Jesus was made perfect, (Hebrews 5:9). What made Jesus perfect, why did he not succumb to sin when he was temped? Adam was also created perfect, but when he was tempted, he sinned. Jesus was obviously born with something Adam was not.
What was it?

Jesus Christ was born with the Love of God. His love for God, kept him from sin. And through the Law of Christ, God will make us perfect in Love.
But dont take my word for it, (1 John 2:5).


What Is A Doctrine
  
The ultimate law is LOVE ---Steveng on 2/19/19

Exactly!!
And this is why we must be born again. Our hearts must be changed, changed to make us the servants of Almighty God. We are not born this way, so we must be born again.
How does God change our hearts? By keeping the commands of Jesus Christ.

If you do not keep his commandments, this change will not take place, and you will not be saved. It is as Simple as that.


What Is A Doctrine
  
there are 2 Laws.---Nicole_Lacey

God changed the Law, creating a new covenant, but some of the old is written in with the new. The old written on stone, the new written on your heart. For instance....Stealing, adultery, lying and murder are still a part of the new covenant. You should feel guilt and sorrow, before God, if you commit these sins.

It is interesting, how folks who do not confess their sins, become numb to feeling this guilt and sorrow before God. And then immediately after asking God to forgive them of said sin, as recommended by Jesus Christ, they become acutely aware of sin.

Why the difference? Confession of sin removes the sin which separates us from God, putting us back in the light.


How God Saves People
  
david said, "A (False) Doctrine does not bring folks their salvation,"
David, Paul inspired of the Holy Spirit disagrees with you ---john9346 on 2/17/19


I agree, but due to the 125 word limitation, I was forced to eliminate words in order to submit my comment. Before I eliminated words, my comment had the word (False) before the word doctrine.


What Is A Doctrine
  
Nicole
I point out these contradictions by trying to show folks that most doctrines override their own interpretation. For example, Most doctrines teach we are sinners saved by grace, which is true. But...

But they contradict that teaching by saying, Jesus did away with the Law. The bible teaches, Sin is the transgression of the Law (1 John 3:4). And without the Law, there can be no sin (Romans 4:15).

If Jesus did away with the Law, it is impossible to be a sinner, because it is impossible to sin without the Law. Furthermore, How can the Holy Spirit convict us of sin, if there is no Law to be convicted of?

The blind leading the blind?


How God Saves People
  
Nicole
You have the gist of it.
A Doctrine does not bring folks their salvation, but it does, bring them to God. This is when a personal relationship with God, as our Father, is meant to begin. Without the body and shed blood of Jesus Christ, this relationship would be impossible.

Good works...those commands given to us through Gods Holy Spirit, are the very foundation of this relationship, (John 14:21). This relationship is meant to change our hearts. Good works are acts of Love towards God and towards others. Good works heal the heart.

All sin is sin against God. In those who love God, there should be a tremendous guilt before God. The greater your love for God, the greater that guilt will be. No guilt...No love.


How God Saves People
  
Nicole
As you know, I dont believe in Catholic or Protestant teachings, but I do see the Love of God in some of those who attend those churches. I have also seen God bless their lives. Why would God do this, if they were following a false doctrine?

It is because they unknowingly,...are not following these doctrines, in actuality they are following Gods Holy Spirit. Why do I say this?

Both Catholic and Protestant doctrines teach their partitioners, We are not Under Gods Law. But if a person is keeping Gods Law, therefore putting themselves under Gods Laws, are they following the doctrines which teach, We are not under Gods Law?(Romans 2:12-15)


Mark Of The Beast Survival
  
Just like the Rainbow...God has given every one of you a sign. A sign which clearly tells you, if you....have been saved. Fear of the tribulation is in reality,...a fear of Death. Those born of God welcome this event.

We foolishly argue our doctrines, but these words are not a sign from God.
Fear of Death is a sign, just one of the signs we are given, a sign as clear as the rainbow was to Noah.

Do you fear death? Before it is too late, I highly recommend you do not ignore this sign. Get on your knees and ask God to show you the way....and only Follow the path God puts before you.


Buildings On Mount Sinai
  
Steven
The abomination that causes desolation, is when the anti-Christ is declared the Son of God....by the Children of Abraham. They rejected Jesus, as their Christ, so they are still waiting to crown their king. And they will crown the Anti-Christ.

I was taught this by the Holy Spirit. So it comes from a good source.


Penalty For Sin Is Death
  
David, Kathr and Melody had huge debate on one blog for several days. Then Melody threaten have her kicked off CN.---Nicole_Lacey

Nicole
Read, The Penalty for Sin is Death Question, on 1/28/19. Notice what happens after I expose her sham to Cluny on the 28th. Before the 28th, have you ever seen them argue as Kathryn claims in her rebuttal?

The argument was meant as cover, after I exposed her. In the argument that ensued, they appear to become bitter enemies, exactly as Kathryn portrayed her relationship with Melody on the 28th.

Now if the argument you speak of happened before this, I am wrong. Did it happen before the 28th?


Penalty For Sin Is Death
  
How do you "know" Melody and kathr are the same person?--StrongAxe

Its a combination of things in her writing style, things no one else does. They use the same phrases from time to time. They both multi-post. They dont engage each other on any blog question, at least not until after I called her on it. They both like to capitalize multiple words. When one drops in on a blog question, the other seems to drops out....like a tag team.

Too much to list. You really need to look back at all the questions they have engaged in. Notice they never engage each other before 1/28/19. You only see them argue after that time.


Grace Through Faith
  
David, So you want us to believe today everyone should experience getting thrown off a horse, on the way to Damascus or wherever, hearing Gods voice saying..."WHY ARE YOU PERSECUTING ME"?---kathr4453

Kathryn
We all try our best to use analogies to help you understand. If you have a learning disability that inhibits you from understanding, you need to let us know.


Grace Through Faith
  
Personally I think you have mental issues. I don't know what happened to you...possibly a psychotic break from reality, who knows, but you simply do not have the gift of teaching.---kathr4453

What happened to me? You discovered I am right, and you are wrong. Only you are too proud to admit it. Your name calling only empathizes this fact. Its what people do, who dont have the evidence to prove their point.

I hope you can set your hate for me aside, and then do what Jesus taught, and then you may learn the truth.


Penalty For Sin Is Death
  
Please! I for one have found it difficult to read these blogs as all you do is rebuke and rebuke, without showing book chapter and verse when you are busy rebuking.
ENOUGH!!!---Monk_Brendan


Brendan
The argument between Melody and Kathryn all started when I discovered they were one and the same person, and called her on it. Instead of admitting to it, she is pretending to have an argument with Melody to cover her tracks. Personally I think she is doing a good job just keeping up the charade.

I tell you this because I dont want you to worry about them. I admit, it would be a horrid argument, if they were not the same person.


Grace Through Faith
  
So please stop the games, and answer the question. ---kathr4453

Kathryn/Melody
The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the foundational teaching of salvation. Just like arithmetic is the foundational teaching for mathematics. You dont find calculus being taught in a first or second grade class on arithmetic,...do you?

If we do what Jesus tells us to do in his Gospel, then you will be able to understand Pauls testimony. Our experience of salvation is like Pauls experience. The Lords disciples had a different experience. This is why they didnt teach what Paul taught.


Penalty For Sin Is Death
  
Kathryn
You are not fooling anyone, you and Melody are the same person. If youre going to continue this charade, everyone should realize they are talking to you.


Grace Through Faith
  
Kathryn
I will withhold further comment until you get ahold of yourself. You are doing a commendable job playing both roles, only you forgot to have Melody address me about my accusation.

If you are not one and the same, why didnt Melody deny it too? Oh what a tangled web you weave.



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