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Canada Hate Bill For Speech
  
Haz27:

When scripture tells us something, that "hidden wisdom" is IN ADDITION TO what is plainly said, not INSTEAD OF what is plainly said.

The Pharisees made this same mistake with their Korban rule. Scripture says "Honor your father and your mother". Rabbis said if you vowed money to God, that money was exempt from helping your parents, as God is more important than your parents. The first three commandments come before the fifth.

But Jesus said their own interpretations CHANGED the meaning of what God PLAINLY WROTE, and thus rendered the Word of God null and void. You are doing EXACTLY THE SAME THING by saying the "hidden meaning" is more important than what God plainly wrote.


Was Hitler Left Or Right
  
Haz27:

I agree communist depots like Stalin and Mao murdered millions. But fascists like Hitler were on the RIGHT. RIGHTIST despots also murdered millions. The reason was NOT because they were leftists but because they were AUTOCRATIC DESPOTS.

Yes, concensus does not ALWAYS mean truth, but it does more often than not. God gave all of us common sense, and most people use it to some extent. If someone says "2+2=5" contrary to everyone else, it is much more likely that he's a crackpot than that he's a visionary. Crackpots are common. Visionaries are rare.

Your crackpot theory that Hitler was a leftist (solely because you hate the left and must necessarily attribute all evil to them alone) won't change facts.


Christian To Be President
  
Haz27:

Stop your constant broken record accusations.

John 20:29
Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

Jesus HIMSELF spoke of believers WHO DO NOT SEE HIM. Expand your narrow vision beyond John 6:40.

I repeatedly said people who feed the hungry, etc. are ALREADY doing God's will as Jesus tought, so they are ALREADY following Jesus even if they don't know they are. They ARE saved THROUGH Jesus, not "by some other means". THIS is why the sheep have to ask "When did we do this?" in Matthew 25 - because any Christians WOULD ALREADY KNOW and would not need to ask.


Canada Hate Bill For Speech
  
Haz27:

Yet again, you take something I say, and twist it to mean something else. I did NOT say "nobody can do the will of God". I said "Nobody today can SEE Jesus, and thus fulfil John 6:40". There are many other verses in the Bible that also tell us the Will of God - the only reason you could possibly reach the conclusion you did is by being SO FIXATED on John 6:40 that you ignore everything else.

On the other hand, Jesus speaks of helping others in MANY other places, not only Matthew 25.

You claim that I miss the hidden wisdom in Matthew 25:31-46, yet you miss its very plain message. You are so obsessed with finding the Hidden Forest, that you can't even see trees when you walk right into them.


IRS Tax Exempt Satanic Temple
  
The Alabama law claims to be about life, but it isn't really. The pro-life position is that life begins at conception. In vitro fertilization clinics fertilize eggs, and keep the fertilized embroys in storage for future implantation. These embryos in jars are just as much conceived and alive as ones in a woman's womb. Curiously, however, the Alabama law does not prevent destruction of such embryos. The only explanation that makes sense for this dichotomy is that the law is not about preserving life at all, but solely about controlling women's reproduction, since it doesn't care about life if a woman is not involved.

Also, Alabama's claim to be pro-life is hypocritical, since the execute more people per capita than any other state.


Canada Hate Bill For Speech
  
Haz27:

Jesus said the greatest commandments (i.e. what God WANTS us to do) were "Love God", and "Love your neighbor as yourself", and elsewhere "love your enemy".

I said nothing against Eph 5:17. John 9:31, Eph 6:6, Heb 10:36, 1 John 2:17. Note **NONE** of these command us to SEE Jesus, so we are all able to do them (unlike John 6:40, which was only possible to those in Jesus' day who were actually able to see him).

I can't speak for Australia, but American conservatives want to exclude foreigners, and to cut food, shelter, and aid to the poor - demonstrating "hate your neighbor". Republican politicians use political dirty tricks, demonstrating "hate your enemy" too.


Was Hitler Left Or Right
  
Haz27:

And Trump was a liberal pro-choice Democrat before he realized that he would gather more followers by pretending to be a conservative Republican.

Yes, left-wing Stalin murdered 8 million Ukrainians, but right-wing Hitler murdered 6 million Jews, and 6 million others. You keep saying Hitler was a left-wing socialist, but almost everyone in the world disagrees with you. Authoritarianism is toxic at both extremes.

Increasing wages and decreasing working week are socialist programs, regardless of who does them. Capitalism relies on market forces, and you see that in America - people working 2-3 jobs just to make ends week and having less vacation time than anywhere else in the civilized world.


Christian To Be President
  
Haz27:

I said people today can't SEE Jesus. I didn't say they can't do what Jesus told them to do (e.g. love God, love your neighbor, feeding the poor, clothing the naked, etc.) How do we demonstrate that we follow Jesus? By doing what he told us.

Cluny mentioned a man in India who never heard of Jesus, but goes around feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, comforting the sick, etc. At the final judgment when he stands before Jesus, Jesus will tell him he was doing His will all along, which means he was a follower of Jesus (and will thus be saved by Jesus), even though he didn't even know who Jesus was - because he had the will of Jesus written on his heart, and followed it.

Today, we can't see Jesus, but we CAN obey him.


Canada Hate Bill For Speech
  
Haz27:

No, it doesn't. There you go again, taking something God PLAINLY WROTE for everyone to understand. Then you insert your own words like "only" that are neither stated nor implied, to render the word of God null and void, just so you can change with it means to something totally different, to absolve you and all your conservative friends from doing what God plainly commanded.

When the final judgment comes, you will find yourself in that very same predicament, being rejected for disobeying Jesus's commandment, and totally clueless as to how you did that, because you interpreted it to mean something different than what he said.


Canada Hate Bill For Speech
  
Haz27:

You spritualize everything. Yes, some words have spiritual meanings IN ADDITION to their plain, ordinary meanings, but these do not REPLACE their plain ordinary meanings.

Jesus said hating or lusting was tantamount to murder or adultery in your heart, so he extended "don't kill or commit adultery" to "don't hate or lust", but that doesn't mean it's OK to physically kill someone without spiritual hate or physically cheat without spiritual lust.

Feeding a spiritually hungry person the Gospel is FINE, but that doesn't exempt you from feeding a physically hungry person food. By nullifying the plain meaning, you change God's word, just as the Pharisees who made the Korban exception (Mark 7:8-13).


Canada Hate Bill For Speech
  
Haz27:

Once again, you explain away and contradict ACTUAL words Jesus said to conform to your own beliefs. Talk about preaching a different gospel!

John 6:20:
This is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son ***AND*** BELIEVES IN HIM may have everlasting life, and I will raise him up at the last day.

There are TWO requirements here. 1) see the Son, and 2) believe in him. Ever since 33 AD, nobody has been able to meet the first requirement.

Nothing here that says this is the ONLY will of the Father. The Bible lists many other things God wants. Many other scriptures say how to be saved. However, because you are OBSESSED with this ONE SCRIPTURE, you arrive at erroneous conclusions.


Christian To Be President
  
Haz27:

You wrote: What makes you think "church-going" makes one a Christian?

What makes you think quoting the Bible makes YOU a Christian?

I've not seen anything to suggest that Obama is a Christian. In fact his hate, lies, corruption, etc as president suggest he's not.

What hateful things has Obama EVER said?

On the other hand, Trump has married three wives, cheated on ALL of them, SPECIFICALLY said he has NEVER been sorry for ANYTHING (you CAN'T be a Christian without repentance), and his favorite part of the bible is the "eye for eye" part - directly contradicting Jesus' forgiveness. If there is no evidence Obama is a Christian, this is direct evidence Trump is NOT.


Tech Giants Extreme Censorship
  
Haz27:

Yes, you mentioned Shorten, but why? Earlier you mentioned BILLARY, and I was specifically replying to that. I thought you were referring to an amalgam of Bill + Hillary Clinton. Now that you clarified that you were referring to Shorten, I see where the confusion arose.

Still, you spend most of your time screaming accusations and making accusations about fake media, and accusing the left of anything and everything. You are a broken record. All you ever do is accuse, condemn, and vilify. I don't know why ANYONE wastes time talking to you, since you never seem to listen.


Canada Hate Bill For Speech
  
Haz27:

I'm saying that NOBODY TODAY can fulfil John 6:40, since nobody today has seen Jesus. If you base your ENTIRE THEOLOGY about filfilling the will of God on John 6:40, everybody today loses.

This is why we CANNOT base our theology on a single verse, but MUST take the ENTIRE word of God into consideration.

John 6:40 tells us clearly that the will of God is that we believe on Jesus and thus have everlasting life.

No. You must see the Son AND believe on him. You fail if you don't believe him. You ALSO fail if you don't see him. Learn some elementary logic.


Christian To Be President
  
mike:

I did not say that YOU are monopolizing the conversation. However, others DID in the past, so moderators added rules to prevent that from happening again. Nobody can make multiple posts to the same blog in quick succession, or it is likely that the multiple posts will be deleted, either by moderators, or by the submission robots.

Recently, you made 5 posts here in a row. 2 complained about a post that just hadn't been approved yet. Moderators have lives too, and aren't always here.

I'm curious why you think church-going faithful monogamous family man Obama is not a Christian, yet thrice-married adulterous Trump who has never repented anything and whose favorite part of the Bible is "the eye for eye part" IS.


Tech Giants Extreme Censorship
  
Haz27:

Stick to the subject. I was SPECIFICALLY talking about American politics. YOU SPECIFICALLY mentioned Bill Clinton, so I was SPECIFICALLY addressing that, not some Australian politician that I don't know and don't care about.

If you think it's unfair to smear conservative politicians with unproven rape allegations, it is TOTALLY HYPOCRITICAL of you to do EXACTLY THE SAME THING to Bill Clinton, or other liberal politicians.


Canada Hate Bill For Speech
  
Haz27:

And you think you do? Since Jesus' ascencion, nobody has "seen" him, so NO Christians in the top 19+ centuries (INCLUDING you) could fulfil this. If you accuse me of violating John 6:40, so do you.

I SPECIFICALLY said I don't deny John 14:6, so stop constantly saying I did.

Your mistake is that you base your entire theology on one or two verses, ignoring everything else that might elaborate

Yes, the Bible contains hidden wisdom - IN ADDITION to what it plainly says, not REPLACING what it plainly says.

But none of this has anything to do with Canada Hate Speech laws.


Christian To Be President
  
mike:

Several years ago, Christianet introduced rules to limit conversations from going too long, or for one person from monopolizing a conversation. All conversations are cut off after 75 posts. Each post is limited to 125 words. Nobody is allowed to post more than one reply to any conversation in a short period. (A good rule of thumb is that, once you post a reply on a particular blog, don't post another one until you see your first post approved and posted). If you post multiple posts in quick succession without them being approved, there is a good chance that some of them will be deleted.


Tech Giants Extreme Censorship
  
Cluny:

This is the conservative double standard:

If Trump (or any other Republican, like Roy Moore or Bett Kavanaugh) is accused of rape or any other crime, he is considered innocent until proven guilty, just as our constitution demands in legal matters, and as do all countries whose law code is based on the Magna Carta.

If Bill Clinton (or any other Democrat) is accused of rape or any other crime, he is considered guilty until proven innocent, just as the Napoleonic code requires.



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