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What Are Lords Commandments
  
Kathryn
You learn a great deal more from those who disagree, than from those who agree. So though we may disagree, I believe we both benefit from our discussions.

You have caused me to look for evidence I may have not seen, if you had not opposed my position. So though you may not believe this, I do look forward to our conversations.

But I do wish you would could give one, 125 word response, at a time, so others could give a proper reply.


What Are Lords Commandments
  
Kathryn
If you want to get away from the subject, just bow out. There is no reason to create these diversions. Whenever you see what I am saying is true, you hide from it, and call people names, or try to turn the table by changing the subject.

Have you noticed, though just about everyone on CN believes as you, about the Law, noone but you defends your belief about it? Thats because they are wise enough to see the truth in my posts.


What Are Lords Commandments
  

Funny but I dont see HATE as one of the fruit of the Spirit.... ---kathr4453

Kathryn
Funny, how someone with your supposed, spiritual insight, does not recognize you argue against the Lord Jesus. For the verse I gave you are his words, not mine.

For the record, I have never contemplated suicide. I contemplated the meaning of life one night, all alone, because I found myself unable to find happiness.

This void caused me to turn to the Lord, and being led by the Holy Spirit, I repented. The void was instantly filled with Joy, and I have never looked back. But I can see why you feel my turning towards the Lord, when searching for a reason to go on, is suicidal.


What Are Lords Commandments
  
David, there is NOTHING you can say that will change my belief -kathr4453

Kathryn
I know, only God can do that. Many people read CN, looking for logical answers to their questions. Those answers, which reconcile the teachings of all New Testament teachers.

Oh...And just because a person believes, being with God is better than being here on Earth, does not make them suicidal. You may want to read the Lords Gospel before you make such accusations.

(Luke 14:26) If any man come to Me and hate not his father and mother, and wife and children, and brethren and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple.


What Are Lords Commandments
  
Kathryn
The Law of Moses is Old Covenant....The Law of Christ is New Covenant. As a Christian...you have put yourself under the Law of Christ.

(Hebrews 10:16) This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord: I will put My laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them.

(Romans 2:14-15) For when the Gentiles, who have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, they, not having the law, are a law unto themselves, which shows the work of the law written in their hearts,their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts between accusing and excusing one another.


What Are Lords Commandments
  
No scripture says man will be given rewards according to how they kept the Law.---kathr4453

Not the ones you may know, but there are some.

(Revelation 22:12) And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every man according as his work shall be.
(Revelation 22:14) Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have right to the Tree of Life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
(Matthew 16:27) For the Son of Man shall come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He shall reward every man according to his works


What Are Lords Commandments
  
As I said David, Paul didn't write in chapters and verses, he wrote in subject matter , and concluded in what we see chapter 3 the CONCLUSION of his subject, that no one is justified by the law.---kathr4453

So then, you believe he was wrong in (Romans 2) when he said, the Doers of the Law will be justified, and then corrected his error in (Romans 3)?

You have selective hearing....sign of a cult.---kathr4453

Always with the insults when someone shows you, you are wrong.


What Are Lords Commandments
  
David, I can't reiterate enough how taking one verse out of context is a dangerous thing to do.---kath4453

Kathryn
One verse? Open your eyes. (Romans 2) is an entire chapter dedicated to justification through the Law.

(Romans 2:5-6) But because of thy hardness and impenitence of heart, thou treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the Day of Wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, who will render to every man according to his deeds

These Deeds, Kathryn are Gods commandments.

(Matthew 19:16-17) Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?...But if thou wilt enter into Life, keep the commandments.


What Are Lords Commandments
  
Kathryn
You preach (Romans 3:20) Therefore by the deeds of the law, no flesh shall be justified in His sight,...

But you hide from (Romans 2:13) For it is not the hearers of the law who are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

Paul tells us the Law by which we can not be justified, in (Acts 13:19) ....and by Him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the Law of Moses.

But through what Law are the doers justified in (Romans 2:13)?


What Are Lords Commandments
  
And the scriptures I posted came exactly through Jesus Christ David. Do you also object to Romans as man made or God breathed?---kathr4453

Kathryn
When I read the Gospel of Jesus Christ and Pauls epistles, I dont see Paul contradict anything Jesus taught in his Gospel. But when I hear your teaching of Paul, they do nothing but contradict what Jesus Taught, and surprisingly, even what Paul himself taught.

Folks who say Paul taught a Lawless doctrine, act as if chapters Iike (Romans 2) dont even exist. You must ignore teaching these chapters because they refute your doctrine of Lawlessness.


What Are Lords Commandments
  
Oh that David would grasp this truth.
---kathr4453 on 3/8/19

Oh that Kathryn would grasp the Truth comes through Jesus Christ, and not through her.


What Are Lords Commandments
  
Jesus taught, A wise man puts his words into practice, a foolish man does not. (Matthew 7:24-26).

Why?
Because a man learns by doing, and the results will speak for their self.
Example: I tell folks they can completely cure their sprained ankle in one hour, by putting a paste made from cayenne pepper on it.

Sounds like foolish, but when they put my words into practice, and the ankle is healed, then they KNOW, the Truth. If they dont put my words into practice...they will never know.


What Are Lords Commandments
  
Mike
Most folks are unwilling to buck traditional church teaching. When you see someone as a teacher, you naturally accept whatever they teach, and suspend all logic which refutes those teachings.

The evidence of Law existing in the New Testament, logically, is overwhelming. But folks override that evidence with a closed mind, closed because they trust in the teachings of men. Teachings which are not of God.

I try to appeal to their logic. Because logic, sheds light on foolishness. And hopefully, when they see the foolishness, they will use the Law as it was designed by God,...to convert the soul. We are not saved by the Law, but through the Love which the Law creates.


What Are Lords Commandments
  
Josef
I know your intention, was to separate them. I Thank you for that. You gave me something to think about. I knew they were separate, but never really thought about why. And your comment, along with Nicole, Steven and Cluny, gave me that answer.

The Ten Commandments are the Laws of Love, and that is why they are Perfect in converting the Soul (Psalms 19:7). Paul goes into Great personal detail (Romans 7) about how it was a commandment, that caused his death to sin.

In other words, he discovered, like me, his Love for God killed that which caused him to sin. Many folks believe this is metaphorical, when its not.


What Are Lords Commandments
  
David where in scripture is the ten commandments referred to as the Law of Moses?---Josef

(Exodus 34:28) And he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights, he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote upon the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.


Finish It Here February 2019
  


Kathryn
The very fact that there is sin in the world, and you and many like you, call yourselfs sinners, should tell you, we are all under the Law of God. Isnt a sinner, someone who breaks Gods Law? (1 John 3:4)

The very fact that under the New Covenant, God has writen his Laws in our minds and puts them in our hearts, should tell you we are under Gods Law. Why would God write it, or call it Law..if you were not under his Law? (Hebrews 10:16)

I leave you with this...to do what you want, your souls are at stake, not mine.


Finish It Here February 2019
  
Kathryn
When I read Pauls Epistles, I try to put myself in your place. And I admit, if I had not experienced the biblical definition, of being born of God, I would probably believe as you do.

You believe you have become the New Creature, that Paul writes about. I get that. God and I see you as a caterpillar, who has yet to make a cocoon. Though you dont exhibit the life of a butterfly, that doesnt stop you from believing you are a butterfly.

I wish I could wake you, but I can not. I wish God would wake you, but he will not. He will not wake you unless you believe in the one he sent, and begin building your house on his message of salvation.

Moses brought in the old, Jesus brought us the New. (John 1:17)


Finish It Here February 2019
  
(1 Corinthians 7:19) Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but what matters is, the keeping of the commandments of God.

Kathryn
Since circumcision was a commandment under the law of Moses, Paul is not talking about that being the Law, that matters.
So what is the Law that matters?


Finish It Here February 2019
  
(Genesis 26:4-5) And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries, and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed, because Abraham obeyed My voice, and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My laws.

Why did Paul say Abraham was not under the Law, when God says he was?



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