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Finish It Here May 2019
  
And I agree, Jerry bringing Jesus Christ down to our level is blasphemy ...however it's possible Jerry does not believe in the deity of Christ. Jerry's comments and statements do reveal more than he knows.


Finish It Here May 2019
  
Ok so many believe America is the NEW ISRAEL...the NEW PROMISE LAND, that God made a Covenant with. Is the Covenant then based on HATE, or again to be a LIGHT to all Nations? How can we be that LIGHT when so much DARKNESS is overshadowing this Country by HATE talk towards others, even your supposed enemy..the Democrats...too funny!

You know when Schlinder realized what was really going on to its core, he wished he could have bought more families and saved them. How do you know God doesn't want us taking in more immigrants simply for the very same reasons....saving lives. Has anyone even asked God what HIS WILL IS? Can anyone even hear Gods voice with all this NOISE and hate going on? NO!


Finish It Here May 2019
  
Cluny, also back then the Pope reigned over Kings and Countries.....as we see what Henry VIII went through severing from Roman control. The Pope today holds no such power as to organize another crusade. But we do see America with Christian backing vote in presidents using our military to support ISRAEL and the Jews to secure what belongs to the Jews through God's promises......Isaiah 14 1-7. Nothing about bringing Christians back to the land. This is not what the CC then or today has supported. God never promised THE CHURCH land. The TRUE CHURCH THAT IS. So Rome wanting to reclaim Jerusalem ....reclaim from when and who? ANS: Same old Rome dressed in DRAG. OR did the CC just want another relic in its possession?


Failed System Of Socialism
  
Which brings me to my final thought on this subject. If America was ALL WHITE, the schools would not be being stripped of its funding. I have to wonder if it's because NYC has spread around the rest of the country ....meaning multi-cultural, and now we want to defund. The whites are pulling their children out of Public Schools to private or church schools.

And Charter schools are not the answer either. There are many issues in Charter schools. And all these alternative schools do not require teachers to be certified.


Stop Arresting Criminals
  
And the craziest of all is David's idea that we're foster kids until we're adopted. Foster meaning servants. He said his parents fostered two girls and I guess made them servants and based upon their service to them, passed their test and then were adopted. CALLED CONDITIONAL LOVE ....YIKES. Problem David....YOU were born into your family. We are also BORN INTO GOD'S FAMILY, BEGOTTEN THROUGH JESUS CHRIST. CALLED BEING BORN AGAIN.
Also, GENTILES were never servants. Israel was. But were never said to be foster kids..


Stop Arresting Criminals
  
David, no one here but Melody agrees with your version of Grace. Although I believe in free will, I believe even Calvinist's believe we are saved by Grace through Faith, it is a Gift of God, NOT OF WORKS lest any man should boast.

GRACE again is defined in Galatians 2:20-21, stating it is CHRIST IN YOU, VIA BEING CRUCIFIED WITH CHRIST AND RAISED UP TOGETHER WITH HIM A NEW CREATURE.

I Know you hate this definition of Grace. You HATE the doctrine of the CROSS, and it appears Melody does as well.

You are disagreeing with GOD not me.

The Second resurrection you both plan to attend,???? THE CHURCH will be a witness against you. You have TRAMPLED the Spirit of GRACE...Hebrews 10.

I warn you both IN LOVE....


Stop Arresting Criminals
  
We just reject your version of Grace for the one Jesus taught.
---David on 4/15/19

David, other than Melody supporting your False Gospel...her showing how two faced she is stating on other threads we are redeemed by His Blood, redeemed is a ONCE and for all PURCHASE ....not some monthly coupon club and then MAYBE in the end, if we've kept the law, will be given eternal life. ...there is no WE.

God has more compassion on you David because you don't know better. melody however will be judged more harshly, as scripture states to those who know the truth but compromise the truth in favor of WHAT MELODY? Because he likes you? And you like him?


Where I Was Saved
  
David you also seem to be throwing out chum...going on some fishing expedition by making up things that happened to others and trying to apply to me. So and so did this or that..bla bla bla. Not once did I ever say I was saved at a Billy Graham Crusade. Your overactive imagination is humorous.

Many think they are saved by keeping the law....wrong too.

David just accept the fact that YOU are not the Holy Grail of absolute TRUTH, and no one needs to go through YOUR INSPECTION to see if they are saved.

Now BACK OFF. STEP BACK. MOVE ON.


Stop Arresting Criminals
  
And DONT FORGET, only by the Holy Spirit can we say JESUS IS LORD....AKA LORD GOD ALMIGHTY. 1 Corinthians 12:3

The end of Revelation is addressing those who will enter the 1000 year reign. The CHURCH ENTERS through Jesus Christ..His Bride, BODY.

Now we also see in Matthew conditions as well to enter....by cutting off hands and poking out eyes if they offend. Matthew 18:9

The NEW CREATURE IN CHRIST who is created in righteousness and Holiness will not need to cut or poke.

But if you all want to say this is YOUR GOSPEL....as David also does....then YOU WILL HAVE TO DO SOMETHING to save yourself.


He Takes Away Sin
  
Melody, now that we all you can be generous to those who speak half truths, you can show that same generosity to Monk and Cluny. After all they do believe Jesus is God unlike David. I find that far more important that quibbling about the law . Christians who have the indwelling Holy SPIRIT with CHRIST IN US IS A NO BRAINER THAT WE DON'T BREAK THE RIGHTEOUS LAWS OF GOD as Romans 6-8 have stated, that David rejects.


Baptism Gone Wrong
  
Maggie,Are you new to this church? Had no Idea how they baptized? And your son was not a part of the Baptismal disscussion? Was it on his own confession of faith, or is this a CULT where water baptism naked is your belief of salvation? And what about others being baptized before your son? NONE? or just no naked baptisms? How and WHY was it exactly your son was kept in the dark, not only by his own parents but by the pastor? Did the Pastor say not to tell him? I would think a 16 year old would be included in the discussion prior, not only explaining the meaning of baptism, but what was expected of him. To be kept in the dark SHOWS IT WAS wrong. If you all believe there is nothing wrong with it....why the secrecy?Ephesians 5:12 and JUDE 4*


What Are Lords Commandments
  
David, please expound and give us all your actions of how you hate your mother and father and children and brothers and sisters, Grandpatents etc.

Do you obey this HATE. It's easy to pull up verses, harder to PROVE you obey them. Tell us all exactly how you obey them. Do you spit on your family, starve them what....how do you show your hatred for them.

We all need to learn from you how we too can obey and hate everyone since you've exalted yourself as being so much better that anyone else in your perfect obedience. And how do you know it's not your SINFUL FLESH doing the hating which would take no effort at all.

If you can't give examples of your hate....then you are a phony Bologna who is just all talk.


What Are Lords Commandments
  
Mike, I so glad you know the law can never earn salvation. This is what I have been going round and round about with David. Maybe you haven't been keeping up with the conversation.

We are saved by Grace through faith, it is a gift from God, NOT OF WORKS, lest any man should boast.

This is what David has a problem with.


What Are Lords Commandments
  
And finally David, THIS PLACE, above In Christ in heavenly places IN CHRIST is where the butterfly lives, the NEW CREATURE that morfed from that earthly caterpillar who once lived under the earthly elements of this world only...re the law.

That total transformation comes ONLY through being crucified with Christ, and raised up,a NEW CREATURE IN CHRIST, Romans 6, being conformed to HIS IMAGE through the struggles and fellowship of HIS SUFFERINGS...Phil 3 ascending and overcoming tnrough powers and principalities of the evil one to grasp hold of the victorious life IN CHRIST, Ephesians 1, can only be realized THROUGH FAITH IN HIS PROMISES, 2 Peter 1.

That's the real butterfly David...all right in scripture.


What Are Lords Commandments
  
BACK UP:
Hebrews 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

Our SENSES...WHICH IS OUR emotions as well as our ability to learning what is of God and what Satan can so masterfully imitate..IS A PAINFUL PROCESS.

Strong meat is the word of God..... NOT Baby talk, milk, mush mush etc as the opposite, showing they have not been EXERCISED YET.

Paul was given a thorn in the flesh too after being and shown things in Paradise, to keep him humble, and it lasted his whole life. God revealed the Gospel according to the MYSTERY to Paul at that time. It wasn't just some joy ride to brag about.


Finish It Here February 2019
  
Conclusion... I wouldn't trade what I have for some experience of being made to think I was taken to paradise. No one can prove such a thing....Paul never detailed his experience there, so David can't PROVE he went there. Being struck down, ..again, strange experiences, not the norm. Things Satan can imitate. Did David see GOD the Father in Paradise? ...he never claimed he did. Did God show him things unlawful to utter? Was he in the body or out of the body? Even Paul said he didn't know for sure. But that experience Paul had with The Lord, as John in Revelation too had one, is not something we all are SUPPOSED TO HAVE, and if we don't , being told we are not saved. SERIOUSLY?

So please address David on your concerns.


Finish It Here February 2019
  
God and I see you ......
---David on 3/3/19

Here's the tell tale sign of something I can't even begin to express......

Does David think He is one of the Trinity? It would appear so, since no one , not even Paul made such claims to judge the heart soul and personal relationship of another.

This says it all as far as I'm concerned.....full of PRIDE! ARROGANCE! judging another man's servant...SIN, as Paul forbade such judgement. Yet David says he's sinless. He picks and chooses what he wants to be sin or not. measuring people using himself the yardstick.

Excuse me while I go gag myself David.


Finish It Here February 2019
  
David, i believe you are more than a hair away from the truth. The form of doctrine we obey from the heart is the doctrine of the CROSS. Galatians 2:20-21, the central most of the doctrine of the cross. Philippians 3 Colossians 2-3, Romans 6-8....just to name a few.

I also believe I am complete in Him.





Finish It Here February 2019
  
And sadly, even showing the same scripture OVER AND OVER has no effect on those who can't think and read for themselves. Scripture also,says those who walked with you and walked away WERE NOT SAVED TO BEGIN WITH. It does not say they lost their salvation. You cannot lose what you never owned.

And scripture deals with sin after you are saved ONLY ONE WAY.....ROMANS 6-8. But even showing that again and again does not register to the UNSAVED. It can't register to the UNSAVED, because you have to be saved FIRST before those scriptures become REAL and EVIDENT. And the evidence of those truths cause YOU to proclaim this truth as well. Where is YOUR PROCLAMATION ?????? I see none.



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