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God's Grace On Noah
with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season,

26 Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward.

27 By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible.

Abraham offered Isaac, believing God would raise him from the dead....that ONLY CAME THROUGH CHRIST WHO SAID I AM THE RESURRECTION. ...just read Hebrews 11 Cluny. Jesus said of Abraham, Abraham rejoiced to see my day..he saw it and was glad.

AND yes, having had a stroke, my spelling will no doubt get worse. Just deal with it Cluny. I have.

Was Hitler Left Or Right
Haz27, do you all have PUBLIC libraries and if so, have you ever used one? Ever, I mean from school age on up? Were you sent to private school,or public school? Did your parents ever take advantage of public immunization..say like Polio Vaccines or the booster given afterwards? Do you all individually own your own private fire department, or do you just let personal property burn down? Have you ever had to call the police or call for help in any way?

If you answer YES to ANY of the above YOU are a LIBERAL.

God's Grace On Noah
We do see a tradition of casting lots, as we see in the beginning of Acts....BUT THE DECISION of the 12 Th Apostle was in fact of the Lord who chose Paul.

God doesn't cast lots, men do. And God can and does override those "lots" if it's not according to His will.

Most importantly, it's evil to take verses like Proverbs 16:33 and apply it to salvation. The chapter is not talking about salvation. This is again HOW CULTS START, and how the ignorant follow these cult practices who take verses out of context to defining their false teachings. Nothing new.

Was Hitler Left Or Right
( Correction) David Dukes was a "one term" REPUBLICAN in the House of Representatives before running as a REPUBLICAN for Congress. He did serve......a prision sentence....and is today a staunch supporter of Donald Trump. These White Supremacist are part of the 36% of Trumps base.

As I said Haz27.. HERE IN THE USA, the yesteryear Southern Democrats are today's Republican Party. WE ALL KNOW THIS, so when someone tries to make your statement blaming Dems, we know they are talking out of their own ignorance in hopes to gather followers of our most ignorant population. We do have a lot of ignorant people here who believe everything they are told, because they can't read.

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I have to disagree with Strongaxe here. There have been many wonderful humanitarians in the world doing wonderful things for the poor sick etc. even whole countries do humanitarian works in other countries, but that doesn't give anyone access to Eternal Life.

The verse in Matthew talking about Jesus brethren IN THE FLESH, which are the Jews during the end times when persecution of the Jews , GODS CHOSEN PEOPLE, ( Isaiah 14) will come to a climax with the earthly return of the Lord to set up His Kingdom.....Zechariah 12-14 also explain. Gentiles who did not turn on Jews are allowed to enter into the 1000 year reign.

How Much Holiness Is Enough
Holiness in the OT was to be set apart. Holiness in the NT is also the be set apart. Set apart from what? In the OT, the gentile world and paganism around then. Today, when we are baptized into Christ and raised up together with Him a NEW Creature, we are also crucified to the world and the world to us....BEING SEPATATE, and this state of Holiness is walking IN CHRIST....HIS HOLINESS. We have no separate individual holiness we achieve or can achieve or earn. Sanctification is another word for Holiness. Hebrews 10....WE HAVE BEEN SANCTIFIED ONCE AND FOR ALL THROUGH THE BODY OF CHRIST. Galatians 2:20-21. We are now COMPLETE IN HIM. Make sure you are IN HIM and He is IN YOU.

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I agree with Cluny...a little leaven ruins the whole lump. haz27 mixes leaven with his version of a bogus Gospel that teaches sinlessness. ALSO Mixing the worlds politics with Christianity is no Gospel at all. That in itself is an accursed gospel...OR DOES THE VERSE SAY THE PERSON IS ACCURSED, who brings another Gospel. Paul, Peter NEVER brought a Gospel that included world politics. Those who do ARE ACCURSED of God. Nothing to scoff at here. But Haz27 will scoff at God.

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No Monk, I'll stick with the Christians who believe in the 3 exceptions, rather than the puppy mill mentality. I also think with the extreme , if passed, we'll see a higher suicide rate, not to mention back door butcher shops.

Even in the OT, women were stoned for this or that and NO SCRIPTURE supports waiting first to see if a bun is in the oven.

Also during the Crusades and it slaughter....were expectant mothers exempt from the slaughter of war? So the hypocricy is just a little stinky for my taste.

God's Grace On Noah
Cluny, 1 Peter 3:20-22 shows the ARC was also a type and shadow of salvation, RE THE CROSS, REPRESENTING DEATH AND RESURRECTION LIFE....

YES, the JUST, were those STRONGS # 6662 just, lawful righteous.....The JUST shall live by faith....were those who looked forward to the coming redeemer, announced in Genesis 3:15. Just as we see in Hebrews 11...Moses chose the sufferings OF CHRIST over the riches of the world.

Please don't say you believe no One knew a Redeemer was promised? That he would die for our sin..Isaiah 53, also that Abraham saw the resurrection in a vision, even JOB said I know that my redeemer liveth. You may want to study the word JUST in the OT and New. You were either JUST or UNJUST starting from Abel on.

Was Hitler Left Or Right
Haz27, I simply don't agree with all you stand for. sorry. I personally believe TODAY there are more white supremacist in the a Republican Party than in the left. That's why those who may be Dems actually run on a republican ticket, because there is more of a stronghold in the Republican Party. I also don't advocate capitalism at any cost. Who knows what the heck has been going on with Manifort , Trump etc and their ill gains from what and we see the Republicans having no moral compass in wanting disclosure of these immoral gains, shares their guilt. I wouldn't change my mind on that even if Trump passed a $20 an hour minimum wage. Some people just can't be bought with filthy lucre. Go ahead and keep your 30 pcs of silver.

Was Hitler Left Or Right
David Ernest Duke (born July 1, 1950) is a prominent American white supremacist, white nationalist politician, white separatist, antisemitic conspiracy theorist, Holocaust denier, convicted felon, and former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.

Failed as a democrat, succeeded as a Republican, won seat in Congress as a Republican 1988. Ran as a Republican in 1992 for President.

There are a few more in our government openly white supremisists , antisemitic, who are REPUBLICANS. Trump has changed his political party over 5 times is now REPUBLICAN and has followed this same formula as Ford, Duke, etc.

Our Dems and Rep may not be the same as yours. Originally HERE, the Southern Dems are now the REPUBLICAN Party.

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The other sheep not in this fold is not saying there is another way to heaven.

When God said, I will have Mercy on whom I will have Mercy, He was talking about Israel the Nation....not salvation of individuals arbitrarily.

Was Hitler Left Or Right
Haz27, Ford was a registered Republican. May have tried to run as a democrat , but was a registered Republican. Also note Ford was against Unions, which Hitler liked and followed that idea, is a right wing thingy...not a lefty thingy.

So to just totally slam the left here as it being exclusively left I can't support. I see it as an idiology that is co-mingled in left and right politics. Also Ford profited off WWII, and financially backed Hitlers war, as did a few other Capitalists in the USA. STANDARD Oil, IBM,.... Which Roosevelt openly in a speech rebuked, that I totally agree. OK. I'll own it then if standing against tyrant murders and antisemites and the morally depraved makes me a lefty. I'll wear that badge with honor.

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Also remember Jesus said that while still on earth. No one can come to the Father...AKA SALVATION ETERNAL LIFE, ,except THROUGH His Son. There are not MANY WAYS that lead to Salvation.

God's Grace On Noah
The One and Only gospel. He gave us Jesus who is full of grace and truth. So when Paul refers to the gospel of grace in Acts 20, he means exactly the same thing as when he and others refer to the gospel of Christ or the gospel of God or the gospel of his Son or the gospel of peace in other places.

The Completeness of the Gospel of Grace Galatians 6:11-18.

3 Reasons Why the Gospel of Grace is the True Gospel. It is the truth that Jesus Christ, God in the flesh, died for our sins and came back from the dead. It is well defined in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 and Romans 10, and Ephesians 2. And Romans 5. And.......Galatians 2:20-21. Those saved by THIS GOSPEL OF GRACE have no problem understanding the GRACE of God.

Was Hitler Left Or Right
That's my point Haz27, both Dems and Republicans have Hitler admirers. A little FACT you fail to acknowledge. That was my original posting....that there are Fascist's on both sides of the aisle.

God's Grace On Noah
I believe in the NT GRACE means Gods Riches At CHRISTS Expense.

It's found not in Gods Eyes but at the Cross. Noah a JUST MAN looked forward to the Cross, is the reason he was said to be JUST in the first place.

Now Calvin's definition is arbitrary selection AKA : on the whim of God for no reason. Having your name picked out of a hat....lucky heavenly lotto. Even in the OT, no such thing exists, as we see Hebrews 11 clearly define from Abel on there is no such doctrine as on a whim. They obeyed THE LAW OF FAITH. HEBREWS 11 is clearly about FAITH.

David, I will state my beliefs again. You don't need to respond.

God's Grace On Noah
Like I said, all those thing originated with Paganism.

Just stating the facts Cluny.
It's actually the 2nd commandment you all seem to ignore or erase. It was put there for a reason, separating Israel from the rest of the world.

Was Hitler Left Or Right
Cluny, are you saying Marxism and Fascism are exactly the same? What was your point. I must have missed it. I didn't see Ford being accused of Marxism. I compared Ford and Hitlers Fascism. In Hitlers early writings, Hitler didn't support Marxism. Ford didn't either. But we do know hundreds of thousands of Henry Fords vile propaganda garbage tracts were all over Germany in the 20''s and 30's. And AGAIN Henry Ford was a REPUBLICAN, and even tried to run for President on the Republican ticket.

So it appears EITHER Republicans CAN be fascists ...OR all a fascist has to do IN AMERICA is pretend to be a Republican. We are seeing this today.

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