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Works Of The Law
David why do you keep changing the subject. WHO said what you said? Again making up yada yada yada again....

Did I ever say i don't believe 1st John?

So now you want to change the definition of "works" for CONFESSION?

OK so do what I did and replace the word WORKS for CONFESSION of Sin....and see if it works.

The Pharisee is who did not see himself a sinner....the publican did. The publican said BE MERCIFUL TO ME A SINNER. He admitted he was a sinner in need of mercy. Those who TRUMP, who say they've never sinned are the ones deceived...and not forgiven.

I don't understand your point.....just a subject changer because ......?David I AM FORGIVEN, and now a NEW CREATURE IN CHRIST.

Can Satan Be Forgiven
It appears in the NEW HEAVEN AND EARTH , showing all evil abomination things that make a lie, aka: SATAN , shall not enter in .....if they can't enter....then there is no reconciliation of ALL THINGS.

Rev 21: 22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. 23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: ....27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life

Works Of The Law
David, please tell us all what part of 1 Corinthians 3:11-15 you don't understand?

When you can grasp and answer that first, you will begin to see your false accusations lead nowhere.


Can Satan Be Forgiven

Colossians 1:24 Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church:25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God,26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

28 Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom, that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:

Can Satan Be Forgiven
Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us IN HIM before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: AKA , being predestined to be conformed to His image. NO ONE was "in Christ" before the foundation of the world. Unlike Mormons, we do not believe we were spirit babies floating around before the foundation of the world. However the CHURCH was CHOSEN before the foundation of the world to be SONS AND HEIRS THROUGH JESUS CHRIST. Eph 1:5. Not predestined to be saved.

The mystery is the uniqueness of the CHURCH, and our HIGHER CALLING....only limited to this dispensation, not limited to specific individuals during this dispensation. Colossians 1:24-27 Note vs 25 .

Aaron The High Priest
The priesthood was assigned to the tribe of Levi, why it's called the levitical priesthood. Aaron and his sons were the very first out of the tribe of Levi. Also note through scripture how the priesthood was corrupted, and how when Jesus confronted them during His time in earth. Praise God the priesthood has changed and Jesus alone is our High Priest. No more corruption of money changers to deal with. Now we do have groups who MOCK the old priesthood, and the ignorant not knowing better still get taken in by these false posers. What can you do? Warn, show through scripture is gone....but even doing that some folks love their bondage. And as long as we have those, there will always be an entity to exploit the ignorant.

Works Of The Law
Your second lie....

What do you call it, in relationship to your definition of faith, which is also without works?
---David on 9/19/19

Again David, you like John blatantly lie, or you simply do not read what others say. Hebrews 11 and James I HAVE POINTED OUT HERE OVER AND OVER show faith by evidence of their works of faith.

Why do you think it's funny to show yourself a liar? It's your reputation your making a joke others can see you make false statements.

Anything to keep your conversation going????? Is that what it falsely accuse, knowing I will defend and call you out....exactly what are you getting out of that? Are you so needy of attention? Because that's what it seems like to me.

Can Satan Be Forgiven
John that is not what I'm saying...I'm saying YOU have twisted scripture cherry picking a verse here and there to promote your false doctrine. Ephesians is BUILDING UPON the foundation of Christ Crucified..... So go back and read John 3:16 first...then read Acts, where many Jews RESISTED THE HOLY SPIRIT, then read Paul,saying the Grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to ALL MEN.

Then realize Ephesians is talking about the MYSTERY OF THE CHURCH, ...if you care to read ALL of Ephesians. Paul in Ephesians is talking to those already saved....who already know the foundation is faith in His death and resurrection FIRST, as he goes on to show we are neither Jew or Gentile...but a NEW CREATURE...a MYSTERY you do not understand.

Works Of The Law
David, I believe this is more detailed about the works of those who are saved.

1 Corinthians 3:11For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble,13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire, and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved, yet so as by fire.

Aaron The High Priest
"Aaron would have been among those who repented of sin. Exodus 32:26 says, Moses stood in the gate of the camp and said, Who is on the LORD's side? Come to me. And all the sons of Levi gathered around him. As a son of Levi, Aaron was one of those who repented, and God forgave. Second, verse 30 notes that Moses interceded for the people: You have sinned a great sin. And now I will go up to the LORD, perhaps I can make atonement for your sin.

Works Of The Law
David, your lesson for the day does not alter the verses I posted below. The Just aka JUSTIFIED shall live by FAITH. a great chapter you may want to meditate on that defines FAITH, Hebrews 11 and gives examples of Faith God sees as works if faith, also James defining, begins in Genesis with Abel and Cain.

Now you think you are doing good works by thinking you are a teacher of the word, and bring in false doctrine it's called EVIL WORKS. AND if you are doing it in your own strength yet first saved by grace through faith, it's called wood hay and stubble, and will be burned up. But we are still saved.
******1 Corinthians 3:11:15 ***** you need to meditate on these verses deeply and sincerely. I hope that answers your question.

Can Satan Be Forgiven
JS1234 believes in a restoration theology not taught in scripture. I'm reconciled through Jeuss Christ as we speak, and so is everyone who's faith is in Christ. Those not born yet who will be saved will also be reconciled to God through Jesus Christ. Those who have been born, Rejected the opportunity to be reconciled have died with that choice get no second chances. Their time to be reconciled is over. Satan and demons again, if they had the offer to be reconciled...would have BY NOW. Hasn't happened.

The OLD creation and all evil in the OLD CREATION is not going to be reconciled to God through Christ....ONLY THE NEW CREATION WITH THE NEW CREATURE. Jesus clearly said You cannot put OLD WINE in New Wine skins.

Can Satan Be Forgiven
Also John being dead in our sin is not people in a zombie like state of existance. God said to Israel in their dead in their sin state...LET US REASON TOGETHER. God YOU SAY can't reason with the dead...however GOD SAID HE COULD AND DID AND HAS FROM THE BEGINNING.

The verse is very simple and straight forward and does not need your or anyone's commentary explaining it away.

Most folks do that when a verse does not fit their false doctrine.

Works Of The Law
Also David you can substitute GOOD WORKS IN PLACE OF sin and it still would not change the verses ....Faith is not of the law...your good works or bad work theory. However don't confuse the WORKS OF FAITH with your works theory. There is no such animal as bad works of faith.

Scrambling up scripture to encourage a more intellectual dialogue is gnosticism. God's word does not need to be tossed around for your entertainment. It's not hard why are you trying to make it so and in doing so change the content...twist more like it.

Can Satan Be Forgiven
John, first you must be delusional, as I never said Israel was not Gods elect... I said they are, and their electness didn't guarantee salvation as the Nation as a whole rejected Jesus Christ. John I have issues with LIARS and underhanded ways you twist things to falsely accuse others.

You are too quick to post or shoot off your mouth first without reading THOROUGHLY what others say. I find people like that have mental issues. You fit that perfectly.

Now apologize for LYING JOHN.

Israel is Gods elect, who SINNED and God said to them IN Their sinful unregenerate unquickened state ....LET US REASON TOGETHER, though your SINS ARE....

Stop twisting scripture too. It's disgusting.

Works Of The Law
David, let me make it even simpler for you.....your version is not according to scripture. If it was you would have backed it up with scripture. And because there are umpteen verses that refute your THEORY, I reject your beliefs.

It doesn't surprise me that you would so twist scripture to fit into your false belief system.

The Bible NEVER alternates the word WORKS with SIN.

NOT EVEN "WORKS OF FAITH" fit your description.

Again David tell us YOUR DENOMINATION, so I can study their beliefs to see if you have twisted theirs as well, or if you are just someone alone, having your own private interpretation of scripture.

Can Satan Be Forgiven
Satan cannot be REDEEMED with the Blood of Jesus Christ. No angels can. Jesus came to save MAN, and is why he took on flesh and not the whatever of an angel. Read Hebrews 2 please.

JS1234 Why do you keep pushing this false idea?

Predestined For Hell
John here are important verses showing ISRAEL THE NATION, as Gods Elect...Deut 7:6, Exodus 19:4-6, Psalma 135:4, Isaiah 43:10, 44:1-2, 45:4

And loud and clear Amos 3:2. YOU ONLY HAVE I KNOWN OF ALL THE FAMILIES On earth....

Not John the Gentile. No Gentile was Gods elect. No individual Jew or Gentile....but the WHOLE NATION. They were not automatically saved because they were Gods elect.

Now we do see in Romans 11:1-8 God has not forgotten them. But He will remember them after YOU a GENTILE WILD AGAINST NATURE is grafted in. But until then MULTITUDES OF JEWS are and have been LOST over the last 2000 years. There's no universal salvation for them who rejected Christ...elect though they may be.

Dormition Of Mary
Cluny if you really want to know, you have the ability to research. Actually the day you celebrate the DORMITION of Mary is the EXACT DAY Dianna was celebrated. Go research Cluny.

I do not bare false promote false heresies.
You also bare false witness when you witness to Mary's Bodily resurrection not even being there, but carry on traditions and FABLES, we are warned against.

No one has risen from the dead before the "first resurrection " meaning all believers from Genesis to the Lords Himself shouts...not even Mary. If she had IT WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT DOCTRINE.....but it's not important enough for God to even mention?????? Because it didn't happen Cluny.

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