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Salvation By Our Works
Yea David, and I can't believe you have made Roger Rabbit your God ....totally bazaar! But it makes sense....your cartoon comments now all make sense.

Salvation By Our Works
So Kathr4453 is far from the truth when trying to understand salvation. Kathr doesn't believe salvation is through Jesus Christ because kathr believes the soul survives death and therefore does not need saving. LIES from kathr4453's CULT.
---David8318 on 8/15/19

Well again David8318 is off the wall in his assessment of what I believe, and must be brain damaged not understanding salvation is ONLY THROUGH JESUS CHRIST, in our identification with Him in death and resurrection life. You simply can't come THROUGH JESUS ANY OTHER WAY....Hebrews 10, Romans 6.... I can't stress enough, ....shows The David's here simply do not understand scripture at all by making such a MORONIC statement ...and a FALSE one at that. So pathetic.

Salvation By Our Works
Seeing David can't one said JW's believe they were born sinless. So the verses you posted don't apply here. Try again David.

Salvation Only For Jehovah's Witnesses
Watchtower teaches that Jehovah's Witnesses alone will survive Armageddon. This is because only they have Gods backing, being the sole group that worship the true God, Jehovah.

It's all wrapped up in the above statement. The believe because they are JW'S...BECAUSE THEY ARE SINLESS ONCE THEY JOIN THE JW'S.

Dormition Of Mary
The poor old goat just can't help himself. I really feel sorry for this, as some old folks really get crotchety and nasty in their old age. Sometimes it's the medication, sometimes it's just the heart of the person....always laying awake nights thinking of a great nasty comeback......I actually think Proverbs has many verses addressing this issue.

Do We Have Free Will
OR are you saying I don't have free will, and I'm doing the will of God as He so chooses to use me. Hummmm?

Apostolic succession is another false teaching in the Orthodox Church. Cluny's belief in this as well as the RCC clearly show their ignorance of the GIFTS GIVEN BY JESUS to His Church in Ephesians 4, and why Cluny and Monk harass those given these gifts that they assault because it's not in keeping with their idea of authority. God chooses the weak to bring to nothing those who think they are voted in or anointed by man to carrying on their false teachings. They hate outsiders exposing their lies and false teachings. GOD has given authority to HIS CHOICES to expose false teachers. Deal with it!

Dormition Of Mary
Witnessing an empty tomb is on no way saying one is resurrected from the dead. Jesus was seen by all His apostles and over 500 who talked and ate with Jesus 40 days before He ascended into Heaven. Now many graves have been robbed. And many a tomb claims to be the remains of this one or that have shown to be a lie.

Feast of the Transfiguration
The transfiguration of Christians is accomplished by the renewing of the mind in total obedience to the will of God, we display the mind of Christ (Romans 12:2), and by that intimate fellowship with God, with unveiled face we behold the glory of the Lord, and are "transformed into the same image from glory to glory, even as from the Lord the Spirit" (2 Corinthians 3:18). This parallels our obedience to Phil ch 3. Without this obedience which is conforming us to the image of Jesus Christ ....this is nothing more than wishful thinking on the part of the Orthodox. The Orthodox and RCC do not believe in an intimate personal relationship of fellowship with the Lord Jesus Christ, and insult all believers who do.

Do We Have Free Will
Strongaxe, is the problem with you free will vs no free will. Is your answer to the lost the answer of NO free will, and somehow THAT answer is more soothing. NO Marge, there is no free will, and because of THAT your headed for hell. Too bad ...but if you had free will, well too bad there too, because .....

OR are you still on this Universalism everyone in the end is going to be saved, therefore No Jesus, no Gospel etc is needed in the first place? Is that your purpose here? To give and believe in a false hope.

Look God knows more than you do, and man is going to be lost or saved because GOD has and does know the hearts of everyone, and if anyone wants to know God like Cornelius....they WILL HEAR.

Do We Have Free Will
"God works in us to will and do" is addressed to those already saved...not the unsaved world. Its actually one of the promises of the New Covenant, BUT you have to be in that covenant with the Lord.

Also Galatains 6 show us "who are saved," that we are Crucified to the world and the
world to us.

WE, those IN CHRIST are no longer part of this world or world system, and our citizenship AS WE SPEAK is in Heaven...not here.

Also God has warned Just like He did through Noah in his time that judgement is coming on this world. GET IN THE ARK ..who Is Christ our savior...

THAT TOO Strongaxe is what you need to tell your friends who accuse God.

Baptism In The Epistles
To say that we are cleansed with the blood of Christ, but Jews are cleansed with water is confusing to me as well. Blood sacrifice for sin and cleansing began with Cain and Abel, not the HYERDISPENSATIONALIST so called church. Jesus was the complete fulfillment of what Abel did by FAITH , looking forward to,the promised redeemer.

Yes there is only one MEANING TO baptism, IDENTIFICATION WITH JESUS DEATH AND RESURRECTION, just as it states in Peter...NOT THE WASHING AWAY OF THE SIN OF THE FLESH, ...even Peter knew it meant identification with Jesus in death and resurrection life. I would absolutely do it AGAIN. As MY BAPTISM with water was my personal testimony of Romans 6.

Baptism Spiritual Effects
Scripture is very clear about SALVATION! It tells us exactly how to be saved. Romans 1-2 speak about righteous living vs godless living, BUT the word SAVED is not used. Somehow many confuse the two. When verses specifically talk about SALVATION, ETERNAL LIFE etc, it's THE FIRST STEP,...and what follows after we are saved is RIGHTEOUS LIVING. Just as Ephesians 2:6-10 specifically verse 10 CLEARLY SHOW our works IN CHRIST , NOT OUR OWN WORKS, IT ALSO SHOWS righteous living come AFTER WE ARE SAVED, NOT IN ORDER TO GET SAVED. There's no THEORY HERE, and any suggestion that it is is HERESY, or ignorance. This IS Paul,building on Jesus words.

Baptism Spiritual Effects
David, I'll bet even posting rather than asking you to look up, you still will willfully refuse to either read or believe. You either believe it or not. I'm not going to force feed you..and then watch you spit it out like a rebellious child.

Galatians 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, 5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. 6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. 7 Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son, and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.

That's me defined above David. I don't apologize for it either.

Baptism Spiritual Effects
Here's the bottom line I'm seeing, that also correlate with 2Timothy 3 and end times...where we see love waxing cold described in detail in 2 Timothy 3. Examples flow down from the top. Any group now, who has the same mindset as our President...( they're out to get me mentality) will follow his example of thumbing their nose at the laws that govern. Take any particular group who feel persecuted....and feel wrongly accused, then follow in Trumps mindset as though this is the way ....leaves nothing but rebellion and chaos everywhere. I see this as the very axis of evil...

We have laws in our country and no president is above the law. We do not have Kings, or Dictators in matter how deranged one might think they are.

Baptism Spiritual Effects
So actually David, God is my FATHER, as I also showed in those many scripture you probably will ignore. However it would behoove you to look up every one and pray on each one.

It's funny how you say it has to be something Jesus taught , then argue against what Jesus taught.

It's obvious David you have a grudge on your shoulder, continually opposing every verse of truth ...and adding your own twisted interpretation of something never said..but possibly something your Mormon Church teaches against Christians, placing yourselves superior, by some false premise.....not very clever. But something SATAN loves doing.

Now show me where Protestants believe your twisted idea of our being sons and heirs?

Baptism Spiritual Effects
One thing I've noticed here that is a contrast between the law keepers and those of the Grace Keepers.

The Law Keepers are those who put their efforts on man loving God. The Grace Keepers are those who proclaim the LOVE OF GOD to man.

Romans 5, Ephesians 3 just to name a couple places...but John 3:16....for God so loved HE GAVE. You see, PRIDE cannot accept this love. PRIDE feels it must earn it.....GRACE however knows it cannot earn Gods love, but simply receive it through His Son, Jesus Christ. Ephesians 2:8-10 .

God's Grace On Noah
That was addressed to David...not Cluny. David, making up things not in scripture is what Gnosticism is....believing you have some special knowledge no one else has. No one teaches this..except perhaps the Gnostic MORMONS.

IRS Tax Exempt Satanic Temple
It's not surprising to see Cluny and Nicole deny the FACT of suicide and Childhood sexual abuse. We already KNOW that even in the RCC with Pediofiles, that the suicide rate is high of those abused, and those still alive STILL SUFFER TRAUMA.

In the OT these fathers, brothers , priests, uncles etc were STONED TO DEATH. RAPISTS WERE ALSO STONED TO DEATH. Today that is not the case.

I believe the LIFE already here is important, and should not be treated like a puppy mill, handmaiden tale piece of meat. And that PROTESTANT Churches need to push back on this RCC total control of this situation.

God's Grace On Noah
David, I'm not sure why you continue to misrepresent my beliefs. Makes me wonder if you ever really read anything I've said, or if you just get some kick out of misrepresenting just to make your own point. YOU stated God saves who He wants. Is that not arbitrary selection? I questioned you on this before and stated my belief only to be rebuked by our online Calvinist...that YOU agreed with.

I don't like the games David.

Stop Arresting Criminals

Romans 9:32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone,

Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Galatians 3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: ....

Where I Was Saved
Melody, who exactly are you going to report me to? Putin? You keep busting in after saying goodbye and the saying don't talk to me again or I will report you? Are you mental or just childish? You obviously are aching for a confrontation just by your post here.

I explained to you that paradise at the time before Jesus resurrection was NOT the Holy of Holies. If you had a teachable spirit I would explain it to you, but your pride and arrogance is Standing in the way. Yes, the thief was with Jesus THAT DAY in Paradise. THAT DAY with the next 2 days. Where was Jesus for 3 days? AND He told Mary after He had risen from the dead not to touch Him WHY????? John 20:17 is your answer.

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