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Then Jesus said to His disciples, "If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross and follow me. For whosoever will save his life shall lose it, and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world and lose his own soul? Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? For the Son of Man shall come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He shall reward every man according to his works." Matthew 16:24-27.

It is important to read the previous verses to see the truth that Jesus is teaching here. The upside is salvation and eternal life. The downside is the loss of your soul and eternal death.

Not A Church Member
God's Kingdom cannot be found in a church. His Kingdom is in the Spiritual Realm not in a physical church building. John 17:14-26.

Jesus preached on the mountains, from boats and in the villages and towns. The few times He taught in the synagogue He was persecuted and the leaders sought to kill Him. John 7:14-32.

The churches are the same today. Should Jesus walk in, they wouldn't recognize or acknowledge Him as teaching the Truth. I want to be a member of the Kingdom where Jesus, Himself laid the foundation. Matt 21:33-46.

Resurrection To Ascension
Nicole, I was talking about the 11 eyewitness apostles that Jesus chose and sent out to all nations. You are talking about the writings of Luke who was not an eyewitness to Jesus. There is nothing left for me to say that would be of any interest to you so I will leave you to carry on this discussion without my input.

Resurrection To Ascension
Nicole, what I am trying to convey is that God has left nothing out in regard to truth and salvation. John 17:5-8.

From where do rituals, doctrines and practices not found in the teachings of Jesus originate? They come from the traditions of men and Jesus warned us about this in Matthew 15. My understanding is that if we reject His words, we reject Him.

"This people honor me with their lips but their heart is far from me, teaching as doctrine the percepts of men." Matt 15:1-14.

Resurrection To Ascension
Nicole, Jesus said that it was the words that He had spoken that would judge those who reject them. "He who rejects me and does not receive my words has one who judges him, the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day." John 12:46-50.

His signs, miracles and works were proof of who He was and were performed by Him through His Father. His teaching was His testimony to the Truth. John 18:37. My point is that everything we need to know about salvation has been given to us by God who spoke through His Son. Matt 7:21-27.

Resurrection To Ascension
The verse in John 20:25 does not say that the teachings of Jesus were not recorded but that many things He did were not written down. "And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of His disciples that are not written in this book." John 20:29-31. Perfect harmony with John 20:25.

After His resurrection and before His ascension, Jesus sent His disciples out to All Nations to teach everything that He had taught them. Matt 28:18-20. Do you think the apostle John ignored Him and left important details out of his writings? That cannot be true because the book of Revelation was entrusted to John.

What Is The Gospel
Michael, the Apostle John understood. Read 1st John 4:9-11 which John wrote after Jesus' resurrection.

John did not need Paul to explain it to him, in fact John has this to say, "These things I have written to you concerning those that seduce you. As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you but as His anointing teaches you about all things and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, abide in Him." 1st John 2:26-29. This is the anointing of the Holy Spirit. John 20:19-23.

What Is The Gospel
Michael, the answer to your question can be found in Matthew 26:26-29.

"For this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins." Matt 26:28. Also see Matt 20:28.

What Is The Gospel
No, Michael, my bible does not stop at the book of Acts. Does your bible stop at Matthew when Jesus begins His preaching of the Gospel of the Kingdom?

Kathr, I am not afraid of Paul. However, I am afraid for those who put his words above the Law and the Prophets and the testimony of Jesus. Rev. 12:17.

This will probably fall on deaf ears but I will say it anyway. Ephesus is the only church that Paul wrote to that made into the 7 churches of Revelation and they were commended by God for trying false apostles and finding them to be liars. Rev. 2:1-7.

What Is The Gospel
Michael, Paul was walking the earth at that same time as Jesus and yet he was not chosen to be a disciple of His nor was he ever mentioned by Him unless you count Rev 2:2.

The Gospel of the Kingdom is all about the words, teachings and preaching of Jesus Christ. He was the Passover Lamb who paid the death penalty for those who would believe in His testimony and those who seek to enter His Kingdom.

Paul tells us nothing about the testimony of Jesus. We would know nothing of His miracles, parables and teachings if not for Jesus' eyewitness disciples.

You make it sound like Jesus' only purpose was to die on the cross but that is contrary to His words. John 18:37, John 12:47-50, John 8:31, Matt 28:18-20.

What Is The Gospel
The true gospel is the gospel of the Kingdom that Jesus preached. Matt 4:23, Matt 9:35. The gospel of the Kingdom is the testimony of Jesus. John 18:35-37.

"And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a Witness unto all Nations and then the end shall come." Matt 24:14.

Salvation Versus Religion
Religion is a set list of beliefs, rituals and doctrine.

Salvation is the Truth found only in the teachings of Jesus Christ who was sent here by His Father to testify to it. John 18:36-37 John 17:17-26. Also see John, chapter 3 and Matthew 19:16-24.

Are Christians Gullible
The problem is that Billy Graham and many others do not listen to Jesus. They have let themselves be deceived by men. Matt 24:1-14, Matt 17:5.

What doctrine did Jesus teach? Religious leaders today tell us that the old teaching has been replaced by new doctrine. How can that be? "Heaven and earth shall pass away but my words shall not pass away." Matt 24:35.

"My doctrine is not mine, but His that sent me. If any man will do His will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it is of God or whether I speak of myself. He that speaks of himself, seeks his own glory but he who seeks the glory of Him who sent him, the same is true and no unrighteousness is in him." John 7:15-19.

Good Works For Salvation
Kathr, yes, Jesus is the Passover Lamb. He paid the death penalty for all who enter His Kingdom. His blood cleanses us and His words sanctify us. John 17:17.

I find nothing in John 6 about being crucified with Him but I do find these verses to the contrary, 33, 39, 40, 47, and 54. I believe Jesus is teaching us to take His Words in as Spiritual food for our soul. He sums it up in John 6:62-64. "It is the spirit that quickens, the flesh profits nothing, the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit and they are Life".
If the flesh profits nothing then what is the point to die daily because of it?

Good Works For Salvation
Kathr, "but he who does the truth, comes to the Light, that his deeds may be shown, that they are wrought in God." John 3:18-21. Show me where Jesus preached obedience to faith.

I don't know what you mean when you say, nothing there says anything about the law? Where? Certainly, the testimony of Jesus says plenty about the law and in the book of Revelation, after His resurrection, the Saints and those born of the Holy Spirit are keepers of the law and of His testimony.

Head knowledge is in our brains and it is through our brain (consciousness) that we connect spiritually to God. Gold tried in fire is the truth and it isn't free. Jesus paid for it with His life and the only Way to get it is through Him.

Good Works For Salvation
I disagree with both of you. My question is, why doesn't Jesus, after His death and resurrection, know that everything has been accomplished by His work on the cross? Why is Revelation chapters 2 and 3 all about works?

The Son of God finds imperfect works among His churches and demands repentance in order to overcome them. You can read for yourself what happens to those who do not heed His warning.

Jesus is consistent all through the book of Revelation about works. Rev 22:12, "And behold, I come quickly, and my reward is with me, to give to every man according to his work" and Rev 9:20-21.

Rev. 12:17 and 14:12 is the foundation perfect works are built on.

70 Week Prophesy Of Daniel
Sorry, that was a typo. It should have read 70 x 7 = 490 years.

70 Week Prophesy Of Daniel
Maree and Therese, the 70 week prophecy of Daniel has already been fulfilled. There is no pre-tribulation rapture or 7 year tribulation in Dan 9.

70 x 70 = 490 years. God gave Daniel's people 490 years to accomplish what He asked of them in Daniel 9:24. They did not complete His requirements. Jesus, the Messiah arrived after the 490 years were up and He was rejected by Daniel's people. Dan 9:25. He, the Messiah, Jesus was cut off when He was crucified in the middle of His ministry. Dan 9:26.

The prince who came after Jesus in 70 AD destroyed the temple in Jerusalem causing the sacrifice to cease. Dan 9:26-27.

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