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Is Jesus also God
  
#3 Trey: Correspondingly, satan also put before the "last Adam", among other things, "all the Kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them" (KJ) (Matt.4:1-11). The questions I'd like to ask you are these. What choice did the 2 "Adams" have to make? If the "last Adam" was 'fully God and fully man', why did satan try to tempt him? Can God be tempted by satan? Was the "first Adam" also fully God and fully man? (1 Tim.2:5,6)


Is Jesus also God
  
#2 Trey: So in order to become the "last Adam" and cover that sin, Christ had to make a mature, knowing choice to keep his integrity to God. Thus the entire faithful life course of the "last Adam"- including his sacrificial death- served as "one act of justification."Romans 5:18, 19. The Bible reveals that both "Adams" were tempted. Satan used Eve to put before the "first Adam" the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good & bad in Eden (Gen.3:6)...


Is Jesus also God
  
#1 Trey: Hi. Interestingly I agree with much of what you say. You acknowledge for instance that Christ is the "last Adam" who came to remove sin and death caused by the first Adam. The "first Adam", the first perfect man, through his own choosing lost his relationship as God's son. God sent a second Adam to replace and counterbalance the sin of the "first Adam". Adam's sin was willful, carried out with full knowledge of the seriousness of the act and its consequences...


Is Jesus also God
  
Trey: In your list of titles you give Jesus, I would like to add another title that trinitarians appear to struggle with.In addition to your list, you miss out "LAST ADAM" (1 Corinthians 15:45).I have yet to receive a decent response from trinitarians regarding Paul associating Jesus' equality, not with the Almighty God but with the first man Adam.(1 Tim 2:6,1 John 2:2) The only response from a trinitarian on 1 Corinthians 15:45 so far is in short, a denial of the Greek scriptures.


Is Jesus also God
  
Mark- why do you stop at verse 14? If you read a bit further to John 1:18, it says 'No man hath seen God at anytime, only the begotten SON, which is in the bossom of the Father, he hath declared him.'(KJ) *No man has seen God*. Again, at best, John 1:1 only speaks of 2 individuals. On its own, it does not prove the trinity- you would need 3 individuals here surely? Greek context at John 1:1 shows the word "god" to be descriptive as at Acts 28:6 where some thought the apostle Paul to be 'a god'.


Is Jesus also God
  
Dr.Rich: What are you trying to saying? So just because the terms, the Father, the spirit and Jesus included as the narrator are mentioned in the same verse (as in John 14:26), you draw the conclusion they are co-eternal and co-equal.Does that mean then that when the 12 disciples are mentioned together in the same verses,we should conclude they are all,one and the same and all the same age?



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