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Cluny, only 2% of Israel are Christians, and don't necessarily define themselves as ALL being Palestinians. I believe there are Jewish Christians in Israel. So I'm not sure exactly what point you are making here. I don't see any prophecy that Christians in Israel are going to present an issue, or even have the man power to do so. I also don't believe the ARAB Palistinian would come to the aid of Christians then or now, as we see even in Syria many Christians are being killed , as well as in other Arab Countries by Arabs. I also don't see Jews killing Christians in Israel, or vice versa.

I would suggest that Christians in Israel, no matter what their ethnicity is, should not come against Israel. EVER. Zechariah 12:1.


God Bless President Trump
  
If Trump is chosen by God to enact His will, why did Trump feel he needed to ask Ukraine to help with his upcoming election. What a joke. Is that HOW God works...by cheating? Not my God. God can choose ANY REAL CHRISTIAN that would never bring disgrace to Christianity or God. Seeing Trump has Paula White now on the WH payroll, a true charlatan and false teacher, ADULTRESS etc.....all this ignorance coming from so called Christians is mind boggling.

God will NEVER COMPROMISE His righteousness by joining hands with a liar, cheat, adulter etc. why would God NEED Trump when He could use Mike Pence just as easily, who actually is more of a sincere Christian than Trump could ever be. Pride always comes before a fall. Trump will fall hard.


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Strongaxe, as I said, Israel is about prophecy and Gods people the Jews. The Bible makes clear, since the time of Ishmael, the DESCENDENTS of Ishmael are in fact the enemies of the Jews and always have been. Building the Dome over what is said to be JEWISH sites, etc, also seeing the Quran says NOTHING ABOUT JERUSALEM, or a Palestine, but does speak about Mecca.

This HOAX has been going on for longer than you know.

So the RCC and Arafat getting together to make a covenant, interestingly enough after the Popes failed assignation by leaning down to kiss the statue of Our Lady of Fatima , named after Mohamed's daughter, is also an interesting connection.


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Israel is about prophecy not politics. Cluny, we'll see when the Great Trib begins just HOW the RCC and this covenant plays out.

Strongaxe, Arafat was a TERRORIST.. FACT. Arafat was EGYPTIAN...FACT.
Now if you find anything to the contrary....then one could conclude YOUR posting the opposite is also a conspiracy theory.

We should look at things through GODS EYES and HIS WORD, not popular opinion or RCC or UN interference .

Many believe Trump is Putins puppet....another conspiracy theory....but just because someone says conspiracy theory doesn't mean its a lie. Actually many conspiracy theories are in fact true and have been proved.


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"On 15th February, 2000 at the Vatican, the Pope and the leader of the PLO terrorist organization, Yasser Arafat, signed a covenant against the G-d and people of Israel and Jerusalem ... According to this agreement, Jerusalem should be an international city based on international resolutions and an international guarantee. (The UN decided on more than one occasion that Jerusalem should be an international city.) They also decided that any step or activity taken by Israel to change this position of Jerusalem is against the law. The agreement also recognizes a 'Palestinian' state in the land of Israel and agrees on cooperation between the Vatican and the PLO and the Vatican committed itself to assist the so-called 'Palestinians'.


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It was only after the Jews re-inhabited their historic homeland of Judea and Samaria, that the myth of an Arab Palestinian nation was created and marketed worldwide. Jews come from Judea, not Palestinians. There is no language known as Palestinian, or any Palestinian culture distinct from that of all the Arabs in the area. There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. "Palestinians" are Arabs indistinguishable from Arabs throughout the Middle East. The great majority of Arabs in greater Palestine and Israel share the same culture, language and religion


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Let me say this a different way. 1st Cluny, today no one thinks the Palestinians are Greek. Arafat was not a Greek. Second, this stated below is not Israel. And Strongaxe, we all know no European were ever the original indigenous peoples here in America, no matter what this Country is called. We all should know that we killed, war, stole etc for this land. And God never gave Jerusalem to another no matter who changed its name or who occupied including Rome.

The first appearance of the term "Palestine" was in 5th century BC Ancient Greece when Herodotus wrote of a "district of Syria, called Palaistin" between Phoenicia and Egypt in The Histories.


Support President Trump
  
Not only is it politically incorrect to lie, but it's morally incorrect to do so as well.


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Yes Strongaxe, exactly right.

You know Strongaxe, that's why I asked a few month back about a particular politician...which I think is some precursor to the beast. We just see how easy it is now to become one. Ha! And how gullible people in these days are who so easily follow these beasts beyond sanity. That part is scary..

But does this particular politician have lying signs and wonders following him? It doesn't look like it. He does have plenty of fooled people following him. Now that I said that....does fool mean easily fooled? Is that a sign ? It definitely is a wonder!


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David, you just made me think of something. I agree with your post, but not sure about the Gentile thing. You do see in Revelation (sic) they sang the song of Moses and overcame the beast. I believe this verse is talking about a remnant of Israel, not Gentiles. As we see in Zechariah 12-14 only about 1/3 of Israel will live through this time. And it appears in Zechariah, those Gentile nations who don't come against Israel will be allowed to live during the 1000 years, but not necessarily guaranteed salvation. So during that dispensation they will go under Kingdom Law...we see shown in Matthew as well. And then after the 1000 years, Satan will be loosed and a real testing more than ever will or may decide their eternal life.


Church On Doctrines
  
Nicole KNOWS I believe in Jesus death and resurrection, BECAUSE after 15 years of testifying to His death and resurrection, I also testified and have for over 15 years our IDENTIFICATION WITH JESUS IN DEATH AND RESURRECTION LIFE. I've posted Romans 6, Galatians 2:20-21 1 Cor 15:1-4, Colossians 2, ans so much more here I would bet probably in these 15+ years over 2500 times. It's basically the very core of what I do post.

So, we can conclude, Nicole has NO CLUE what I post and just babbles on like some whatever, OR she loves falsely accusing others by playing stupid. Either way....it's called being "DISINGENUOUS" to the core. .....Nicoles favorite word.


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Cluny, we do know that for the first time since God scattered Israel after Solomon's sin, and losing the land, which in fact was part of the curse of disobedience, they are back, having their own homeland. You didn't think God was personally going to teleport them did you? Does God work through man? I would say so. What we are seeing is prophecy of Israel coming back to the Land God gave to them....same land...Isaiah 14 as the same land God gave them we see Moses took them to. I don't believe in coincidences. However many including professed Christians have a problem with Jews being back in Israel, including the Pope I'll bet.
Just more intriguing drama for end times to play out. It's all prophecied in Zechariah 12-14.


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Matthew 9:29 Then touched he their eyes, saying, According to your faith be it unto you.

Nicole's comment on 11/8 re the resurrection. TODAY no one has personally witnessed the physical resurrection of Jesus Christ, YET BELIEVE through the scriptures alone...JESUS WORDS.

Did you believe because you first saw a miracle?


Were you, like the Calvinists miraculously saved first so that you could believe, OR were you saved as a result of first believing and then being saved? Romans 10:9-10, Ephesians 1:13 and as a result of your belief in Jesus death and resurrection life, do you BELIEVE all the Miracles that accompany salvation? OR are you still trying to save and sanctify and glorify yourselves through your own works?


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David, good point. One false doctrine that will alter ones end times belief is that of the false doctrine of replacement theology..meaning the Church is now Israel. They don't believe in Isaiah 14 that in the last days God will bring the physical descendants back to the Land He gave them...re ISRAEL. Because the Church is NOT Israel WE have different promises, that if we don't distinguish and rightly divide these promises, we will be deceived.

That's a BIG ONE, as very few know the CHURCH>>>BOC is NOT Israel, WE are not promised to be brought back to any LAND....Isaiah 14 for one, and robbing Israel of THEIR PROMISES is the first bad step in being deceived.


Church On Doctrines
  
If you don't believe in the results of WHY Jesus died and rose again, you really don't believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ the way you are suppose to. Because to say you BELIEVE in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ is to BELIEVE ALL of WHY Jesus died and rose again in the first place.

Nicole goes to a priest to confess sin, NOT boldly to the throne of Grace. Even Cluny scoffs at, we call having a PERSONAL relationship with the Lord. Taking MASS over and over is not faith in the FINISHED works of Christ, because they don't believe in the finished works of Christ.

So what good will it be for them to believe in Jesus death and resurrection life but DENY CHRIST in all He has done for us?


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Whatever Nicole.....

She also said she knew the Messiah/ Christ was coming......which means she HEARD THE PROPHECY CONCERNING THE MESSIAH/CHRIST, where Jesus said I am HE.

MY goodess Nicole, did you forget what the conversation was about ?

Whatever.....but as I showed Many had FAITH aka BELIEF before Jesus did any miracles and didn't need to see a miracle First to believe.

The woman it appears believed the Prophecy that Jesus was speaking ...and she understood it to be about the MESSIAH/CHRIST , where Jesus then revealed it was about HIM. I don't expect you to understand. Those who are contrary to begin with don't want to understand ...they only want to argue.


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Whatever Nicole.....

She also said she knew the Messiah/ Christ was coming......which means she HEARD THE PROPHECY CONCERNING THE MESSIAH/CHRIST, where Jesus said I am HE.

MY goodess Nicole, did you forget what the conversation was about ?

Whatever.....but as I showed Many had FAITH aka BELIEF before Jesus did any miracles and didn't need to see a miracle First to believe.

The woman it appears believed the Prophecy that Jesus was speaking ...and she understood it to be about the MESSIAH/CHRIST , where Jesus then revealed it was about HIM. I don't expect you to understand. Those who are contrary to begin with don't want to understand ...they only want to argue.


Church On Doctrines
  
Nicole, how did this jump from People needing to see Jesus miracles during His ministry to Jesus dying and rising from the dead? And YOU called Jesus words USELESS WORDS that He didn't waste His time with, yet I see ONLY WORDS spoken to the woman at the well.

When you cant admit you are wrong Nicole....you change the subject or muddy the waters ????? Sounds like TRUMPISM TACTICS..


BUT that wasn't the discussion was it? During Jesus ministry on earth B4 His death and resurrection THE SUBJECT WAS ....Did everyone under the sun need to see a miracle first to believe Jesus was the promised Messiah/Christ to believe He was.....I SHOWED YOU THE ANSWER WAS NO. I stand by that answer.

Changing the subject was so lame Nicole.


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Strongaxe, what you are saying is a matter of personal conscience. You have to do what your conscience tells you to do, but you should not force or shame others who's conscience may be something different. (Like Vietnam Nam Conscience Objectors moving to Canada.) That way, if you personally choose to lose citizenship for you know ahead of time that would be the consequence that is your free will choice to do so.

I never said anything about turning anyone over to ICE. That is another issue. Hiding someone is another. If I should meet someone who is illegal, I would look into being a sponsor.

You know, some out of conscience would not steal food in time of crisis, and anothers conscience would justify stealing food.


Churches To Illegal Immigrants
  
No one here is asking everyone to burn incense to the President, or worship the President ....so again apples to oranges.

Right and Legal ..again apples to oranges. It's legal to divorce and remarry, but according to God it's not right. Abortions are legal, but are not right. The list can go on and on with that. We are not a THEOCRACY where the Church and Scripture rule the day. We live in a secular society, where we obey the rules and laws of that society. If you wanted to live in N Korea, and illegally tired to enter that country ...you may get the death penalty. Their law.

John the Baptist was jailed and killed and no where did Jesus demand the Government release him based on Christian "right " ideals.



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